The Detroit Pistons host the Cleveland Cavaliers for opening night at the Palace
by Mike Payne on Dec 28, 2011 1:41 PM EST
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After sputtering their engines against the Pacers on Monday night, the Pistons get their last chance at a fresh start for the 2012 NBA season. The Pistons host Ramon Sessions (swoon) and the Cleveland Cavaliers tonight for opening night at the Palace of Auburn Hills.
Game Tips at 7:30 P.M. on FSD TV
Cleveland Cavaliers: 0 - 1
Detroit Pistons: 0 - 1
The Situation
I'm going to repeat the phrase "team in transition" until the Pistons front office starts repeating it. So far, they haven't gotten their heads around the concept. The Cleveland Cavaliers are a best case scenario for a team in transition, slated to bounce back from the loss of Lebron James in a speedy fashion. This team has promising young talent in Kyrie Irving and Tristan Thompson, some nice trade pieces and an excellent salary profile. If the Cavaliers wind up with another lottery pick in 2012, you can pencil them into the playoffs in 2013.
No, seriously. Once Tristan Thompson is ready for the starting lineup (which is likely to come sooner than later), expect the Cavs to move Antawn Jamison's $15M expiring contract. Since Jamison actually has on-court value, that cap saving contract could actually bring real talent back to Cleveland. If they can't find a prolific shooting guard on the trade market, they can always hang on to Jamison and buy one next summer. Add that wing scorer next to Irving in the backcourt, and a lineup of Casspi, Thompson and Varejao could actually make some noise next season.
Then there's Detroit, who isn't even in a rebuilding stage yet. To rebuild, you have to disassemble the establishment in the first place. Pistons fans could rejoice for a moment, since it seemed like this was finally happening with the buy-out of Richard Hamilton. But for that step forward, Detroit took two steps back with the $50M+ in deals to Tayshaun Prince and Rodney Stuckey. This aversion to rebuilding is even worse given that Detroit actually has talent to begin to build around. No such luck, Pistons fans. Instead, we're going to have to waste a few years of that talent until we can adequately build around them. That sure doesn't help our case when that talent hits free agency...
Enough doom and gloom. The Cavs aren't back to glory yet, so let's rough them up a bit, yeah?
Fun with Numbers
Despite the fact that the Cavaliers and Pistons shared a loss to start the season, they're roughly twice as good as the Pistons. Kyrie Irving is off to a slow start with a PER of 6.4, but this is twice as good as our own Brandon Knight, who has registered a PER of 2.8. Yeah PER sucks, but apparently so do these two. Fortunately for Detroit, our starting, um, guard Rodney Stuckey has begun the season with a 24.8 PER. What sucks is that he's no Ramon Sessions, as Mike Payne's Favorite has registered a 44.6 PER in 2011-12. Sessions is averaging 30 points, 10 assists and 7 rebounds in 36 minutes this season. Tristan Thompson is looking at ROY considerations with 30 points, 11 rebounds and 17 free throw attempts per night, if of course he plays 36 minutes every game.
Keys to the Game
Don't let Ramon Sessions or Tristan Thompson play 36 minutes - I kid.
Since I just previewed a preseason game against the Cavs last week, I'm just gonna copy and paste. Kinda.
Defend Without Fouling - The Cavs took a ton of free throw shots against us in the preseason. They took more than twice as many free throws than the Raptors did during their season debut. This isn't a coincidence, its just that Cleveland has players that are good at drawing contact and getting to the free throw line. This is tough news for a team with only one center, especially when he's already started the season with foul trouble.
Contain Irving on the Perimeter - and Sessions too. We didn't do a good job of this in the preseason, so it's time to turn this around.
Feed the Moose - This should be Detroit's motto, and it should be a key to the game until it is.
Question of the Game
Can Detroit open the season at home with a win? If they don't get one tonight, they might be looking at a zero and ten start for the season. After tonight, Detroit faces Boston, Indiana, Orlando, Chicago, Philly, New York, Chicago and Dallas. Yikes.
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Till 1/8/12, the first 8 games for the Stones.
Unless you live in Michigan.
In which case, tough luck!
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
Eat shit, Michigan!
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:(
that’s not very nice…
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Just yolkin'
I <3 my home state.
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It's still free though, just that the Pistons are blacked out - right?
In which case, that’s not such bad luck after all…
Correct.
It would still be free, but useless if you want to watch the Stons.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
isnt the game on FSD for michiganders/michiganians?
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by dandresden on Dec 28, 2011 4:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Where are you seeing this free preview?
The only site I see is telling me I need to subscribe
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Also, I love how Pistons.com is subtly prepping fans for what could come:
"I think that is the most grossly overrated thing ever," he said. "When I first took the job, all I heard about was that if we would have beaten Jersey … guess what? Philadelphia had one of the worst starts you could have. The two (overtime) losses they had to Washington, you couldn’t write them up. Bad luck. The perfect storm. And yet they came back to make the playoffs. If you allow one game to define your season, come on, now. This is the NBA. Things happen. And to pin it on one game, make or break, I don’t see it."
The 76ers started 3-13 – under a first-year coach, Doug Collins, implementing a new system – yet ended up 41-41 before giving Miami a pretty decent tussle in the first round.
http://www.nba.com/pistons/features/truebluepistons_111227b.html
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
I mentioned this in the noon shootaround
“One of the worst starts you could have” got Frank canned [in New Jersey]. But he’s right in the sense that the Pistons can’t let one game affect their next like it sounds they did last year when they blew a seven point lead in the final two minutes of the opener. However, he could be bracing fans for the worst — take a look at the Pistons next ten games after tonight’s [next eight in MFMP’s preview].
Oh billy.
Since we're playing with quotes...
“There’s always things that happen and, I think, probably the best things we’ve done is we’ve married the player and how he’s going to be used. We haven’t acquired any players just saying, ‘Hey, he’s a good player.”
you guess it.
not Joe Dumars. It was actually Jim Schwartz. Guess that’s why they’re in the playoffs.
how do you end the quote box?
how do you end the quote box?
“He’s a good player…in bed”?
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by WaveOcean on Dec 28, 2011 3:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
this is how if you haven't already figured
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To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
I thought about that, but they can do so much better for so much cheaper. Since Irving is only 6’2", Gordon would also make for an ugly backcourt pairing on defense.
YOU'RE THE ONES WHO ARE GONNA GET ROUGHED UP, PISTONS
START SWEATING, MIKE PAYNE.
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no, not really. I was just saying that for effect.
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As I recall, the Aggies made the clutch plays in your house last time.
So what if you’re 10-2? What makes you think you’ll do any better in our house?
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Aren't you an Indiana fan?
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They have universities in Indiana? :p
What field?
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
nice
I’m currently at NMSU for grad
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I think this season may yet be tolerable
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 4:16 PM EST reply actions
This for real?
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 4:49 PM EST up reply actions
I'm crossing my fingers
This past week a whole slew of rumors appeared out of no where, starting with a Valve employee reportedly wearing this:
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I think we have a better chance of seeing Amy Rose getting her own platforming game.
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How the fuck did Eli get chosen over Stafford for the pro bowl?
Stafford’s had a drastically better year – to the point where it shouldn’t have even been close. My only rational guess is he took advantage of playing in NY
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 5:31 PM EST reply actions
yeah...made no sense to me either...
Stafford has 10 more TDs, 2 less INTs, comparable passing yards, a QB Rating hat is 6 points higher, and a completion % that is 4% better.
Pretty much, Stafford got hosed.
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rec'd for hat
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I don't get why he's not getting much attention this year in general
He’s putting up dominant numbers for a 23 year old, especially when you factor in the broken finger. The fact that he is going to end up with nearly 5000 yards is pretty incredible considering we had no running game, and let’s not even get started about the comebacks he and Megatron led
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions
rec'd for the really sharp eye for grammar
Have you considered a career in copywriting?
by excellent dinosaur on Dec 28, 2011 6:43 PM EST up reply actions
And also taking into team performances
Leading the Lions to the post-season whereas the Giants are still mediocre.
Also Eli’s brother has only had one season that could be considered definitely better than Stafford’s was this year. It’s pretty ridiculous.
Uh, isn't it closer to 6?
I’ve got six seasons where he’s posted a better QB rating
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 5:54 PM EST up reply actions
Looking just at passer rating
But yardage and touchdowns are another story – Manning’s never averaged over 300 yards per game and only one year over 36 touchdowns.
Well let's not start comparing Stafford to Peyton
The Colts put a pretty mediocre team around him most years (if not down right awful like this year); if anything it’s a testament to just how dominant of a QB he is that he still won a ton of games
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 5:55 PM EST up reply actions
Certainly, Peyton's one of the greatest ever
Just a conversation piece, pointing out just how horrific of a snub it is – that this season would look pretty good on the back of “one of the greatest ever’s” football card ought to have him playing in Hawaii.
gotcha, agreed
I’m too lazy to look up the numbers, but I’m willing to bet a handful that there are very few QBs in NFL history that put up this kind of season as a 23 year old
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 6:59 PM EST up reply actions
he’s the youngest since Marino in ’84 (when he set yards mark Brees just broke) to put up 4k yards and 30+ touchdowns
there ya go
I get Brees and Rodgers getting picked over him (don’t see anyone who would possibly disagree there anyways), but Eli of all people is just ridiculous
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions
Stafford leads him in every statistical category
Except “Total Yards”, “Playing In New York” & “Being A Manning”.
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TAVARIS JACKSON WUZ ROBBED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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So anyone else going to the game tonight?
by The truth Rodney White on Dec 28, 2011 6:04 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Danny D
About to pop a bottle of Bourbon Barrel Plead the 5th at tip off! (And a Hair of the Dog Fred + Ten Fidy)
by RoscoeJacksonJr on Dec 28, 2011 6:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
man that pic of CV is so excellent. What if that’s how all dudes fought? Just trying to wrap their fingers around someone’s face as the “go to” move?
I'm gonna say we get the early-season victory
and start drinking the lightly poisoned Kool-Aid.
Pistons, 96-92. Our offense can’t be as bad as last game…can it?
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Cavs defense will answer that for you.
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Im predicting 78-71 cavs
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by dandresden on Dec 28, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Watching this pregame show.
Does it feel like these sayings strung up around the place feel more like something you tell a bunch of high schoolers and not, you know, PROFESSIONAL athletes?
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:18 PM EST reply actions
What kind of sayings?
“We’re all in this together”?
“Getcha head in the game”?
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Stuff like:
“Be impactful.”
Well no fucking shit, dude. You probably should have some sort of impact on the game. Hell, I would assume that by not having an impact, you are indirectly having an impact on the game!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:20 PM EST up reply actions
Oh boy, they're going to show the introductions!
This is the biggest reason why Ben should be starting.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:21 PM EST reply actions
Wallace, not Gordon.
Fuck that other guy.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:21 PM EST up reply actions
CAVALIER FANS GET UP ON YOUR FEET
GET UP GET UP
TIME TO MEET
AND GREET
THE BALLAZ
WHO REPRESENT THE CLEVELAND
CAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAVALIERS!
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who?
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
they don't
your team does
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I just rip them off to get a reaction out of people
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A new Mike Brown era has begun.
wait a minute, that didn't sound good
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
I'm bringing the surly.
Which one of you fuckers is bringing the drunk?
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:25 PM EST reply actions
I'm completely being myself tonight
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I'm bringing the rediculous
squats
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
i sense bugman222's presence!
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what kind of force?
wink wink
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A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Although I might not contribute much tonight
Work computers tend not to allow streaming video
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This is going to be an epic thread!
DBB fantasy question: Does it make a difference if a player (such as Ramon Sessions) is a starter or a utility guy? Totally new to this and just wanted to point out one more time that Ramon Sessions is on my DBB fantasy team! Ha!
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 7:31 PM EST reply actions
There's plenty of utilities Ramon Sessions works on...
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I know, right?
Mike Posner doesn’t sound like a rapper. “Taio Cruz” does.
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Heh. Fancy.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:37 PM EST up reply actions
That is the perfect description of Mike Posner
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 7:38 PM EST up reply actions
My Brother Went To Seaholm
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 2:59 AM EST up reply actions
Ha! I love how half-assed that Cavs intro was.
Fuck you Cleveland and all your fans!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:38 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
OH, you are going to regret this.
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Listening on internet radio is not as much fun as streaming video
Mark Champion<<<George Blaha
Rick Mahorn<<<<<<<<<Greg Kelser
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Oh hey, Lose Yourself.
Never heard this before associated with Detroit!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:39 PM EST reply actions
Eminem >>>> gospel choir cover
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 7:42 PM EST up reply actions
done
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Damn fucking straight.
If they drop Final Countdown, I won’t care about this team anymore!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:41 PM EST up reply actions
lolwutthefuckisthisshit
i’ve got some serious mad right now…
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 7:40 PM EST reply actions
This was my class song
Not kidding.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The Shhhmacklin
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 7:43 PM EST reply actions
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
BOBCATS ARE KICKING THE HEAT’S ASS
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by WaveOcean on Dec 28, 2011 7:43 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
GREG THE MOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE MONROE!!!
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 7:43 PM EST reply actions
I’m really curious to see that image now.
by excellent dinosaur on Dec 28, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
MASON CALLED HIM MOOSE!
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 7:44 PM EST reply actions
I thought I heard him say it a few times in the preseason
this definitely confirms it
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 7:44 PM EST up reply actions
mooooosee
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 7:44 PM EST reply actions
Alright, if this is a one time occurrence, fine.
But you cannot introduce the Pistons without the Final Countdown!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:45 PM EST reply actions
That's all kinds of wrong.
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Frigen hate the Final Countdown.
Loved in it 6th grade when girls liked my for playing it on the piano. It has sucked ever since.
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 7:47 PM EST up reply actions
Ditto.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:51 PM EST up reply actions
Did You Get Any Action From It?
..otherwise total fail.
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:01 AM EST up reply actions
Nice touch bringing in Suh
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 7:46 PM EST reply actions
They put him in the upper deck for driving Kyrie Irving into the court
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Suh
Detroit’s new baby eater
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So is the 54 for Jason Maxiell
Or for the 54 years since the Lions won anything?
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:47 PM EST reply actions
MOOSE!!!
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 7:48 PM EST reply actions
yes
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 7:49 PM EST up reply actions
Are you fucking kidding me?
Amnesty Gordon now
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 7:49 PM EST reply actions
That was strange. not sure what else to say.
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by brgulker on Dec 28, 2011 7:49 PM EST via Android app reply actions
MONROBO COP
Defending Detroit from lesser basketball teams
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Moose cares not for your Isolayshaun!
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 7:50 PM EST reply actions
more moose!
and if Gordon didn’t suck everywhere else he’s worthless on the fast break as well
by mcflies on Dec 28, 2011 7:50 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Jonas backs him in and scores?
Is my feed fuzzy?
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 7:51 PM EST reply actions
To bad at this rate, the Pistons won't.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:52 PM EST up reply actions
Fuck, meant Too! TOO!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:53 PM EST up reply actions
Gordon did something positive!
STOP THE PRESSES!!!!
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I'm Telling You
He’s going to be ok this year.
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:02 AM EST up reply actions
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 7:53 PM EST reply actions
All right Kyrie, you're gonna be a facilitator tonight
That’s working so far
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Man it must be nice to have someone who can facilitate.
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well, i don't know if that's his true nature
I’ve just been waiting a year for something to build on. Now instead of waiting for something, hopefully Cleveland HAS something.
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YEAH
I GOT YOUR 2-12 SHOOTING RIGHT THERE
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this Irving guy
seems to have some natural bball instincts
by mcflies on Dec 28, 2011 7:53 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Well I should hope so!
We drafted him #1 overall for crying out loud!
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NEW AND IMPROVED DEFENSE!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:53 PM EST reply actions
Surly, but not drunk at all. Not a good combo.
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We're obviously losing cause we didn't use the Final Countdown.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions
That and we suck at the game of basketball
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That, too.
BUT IT’S MAINLY BECAUSE NO FINAL COUNTDOWN.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:57 PM EST up reply actions
Greg Monroe: 4 points, 3 rebounds, 1 assist, 1 steal, 5 minutes.
Brandon Knight: 0 points, 0 rebounds, 0 assists, 0 steals, 0 minutes.
by Mike Payne on Dec 28, 2011 7:55 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
BUST
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by heWizard on Dec 28, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Brandon Knight is poop.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
garbage
TRADE KNIGHT NOW!
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
TRADE KNIGHT NOW!
FOR LEBRON JAMES!
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
Wait.
A smart pass by Ben Gordon?
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:57 PM EST reply actions
"Moose is in attack mode"
The prettiest words ever spoken.
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 7:58 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Moose don't cuddle, they charge your ass.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
That whole amnesty clause thing
using it on Gordon is still sounding good
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 7:59 PM EST reply actions
Unfortunately, I don't believe we can use it until next offseason.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 7:59 PM EST up reply actions
Damn, Monroe done schooled Varejao.
Too bad Gordon couldn’t finish..
OFFENSIVE BOARDZ
For JJ
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 7:59 PM EST reply actions
Well, we couldn't make it if the hoop was a laundry basket
but it looks like we’re hitting the boards better. PROGRESS!
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Ben Wallace without a headband?
I… I…
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:00 PM EST reply actions
This game is not making me want to claw my eyes out
Much better than I expected. So far at least.
My federal building is way cooler than your federal building.
by bugman222 on Dec 28, 2011 8:01 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
First DLN!
/drink
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:02 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
No, cause Dumars still has a job.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Our man on the inside
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by heWizard on Dec 28, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Hopefully he's impressing some other team's GM, too!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
ass
all right, Tristian, let’s see what you got.
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A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Max in the game
This could be good, or very bad.
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Someone just ate his babies.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:04 PM EST up reply actions
3333333333333333333333333333333
RAMON
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How was that not a charge?
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:04 PM EST reply actions
Fixed
Maxey Tristian comes in, then the Cavs go on a 7-0 run. Coincidence? Hmmm…
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Never heard of him
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
by the time this game is over
you will not like him.
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A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Can't dislike
what you do not acknowledge to exist ;)
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
Why was Ben Wallace in the game for only 22 seconds?
I get that we need to limit his minutes, but damn…
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He forgot his headband
Had to go back to the bench
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Muscles too big
Refs couldn’t handle it
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:08 PM EST up reply actions
Get Maxiell out of the game ASAP
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 8:09 PM EST reply actions
Daye, you've got to TAKE THAT SHOT!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:09 PM EST reply actions
I mean, it was from Brandon Knight.
Knight to Daye!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
OK, that last shot makes me thing maybe you did the right thing?
You suck, Daye.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:10 PM EST up reply actions
allllllll riiiiiiiiiight
Bobcats lead the cHeat by 15
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Moose!
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:10 PM EST reply actions
Greg Monroe Jumper.
Game over, league. Game. Fucking. Over.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
don't forget the assists!
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:11 PM EST up reply actions
and the steals!
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No, what I meant that without the jumper, Monroe could still be considered mortal.
Now?
The league. Is. Fucked.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTifdoKXoxM
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
That was wretched
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Beautiful
Moose+Knight ftw
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:11 PM EST reply actions
Is that Ludacris' "#1 Spot"
I heard during that possession? Keep playing that all night long.
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Moose passing out of the post
Gives me so much wood.
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Shit
Cavs are gonna have to do something about this guy before he steals your hearts away from Ramon.
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A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Ramon is lust
Moose is love
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by heWizard on Dec 28, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
fair enough
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Ramon at the buzzer
So Cavs have a go to guy for a last shot in case they blow a 7 point lead.
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Damn I was gonna play 2k12
but these positive comments make me want to actually watch the game.
All the time relaxed.
Moose has 6,4,2,1 in the first quarter alone
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
I have been playing WAY too much 2k12
Between the legends, My Player, and Association, there is seriously enough game to keep me occupied for the next 4 seasons.
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God damn get the woman off Hundai commercials
She has the most annoying voice i’ve heard for a singer
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:13 PM EST reply actions
More annoying than Adele?
All the time relaxed.
by Supa Dupe on Dec 28, 2011 8:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
without a doubt
She can at least sing
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Yes, warm it for the next 3 years while making $25 million.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
This is so much more watchable than Monday night
I’m nearly speechless
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a. home
b. cavs
c. were still losing
by mcflies on Dec 28, 2011 8:15 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
just enjoy the damn game
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Still more watchable
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 8:15 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, yeah
But I’m not actively repulsed. That’s a step, McFly.
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IT'S THE FRIGGIN' CAVS
THEY’RE THE GREATEST THING SINCE THE ANIME HAREM GENRE, REMEMBER?
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Oh, Ben.
Oh no. No, no, no.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 8:16 PM EST reply actions
your eyes say no no
but your mouth says yes yes
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I should biomedically engineer Moose an ATPase co-enzyme
So that he can just play all 48 minutes
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:17 PM EST reply actions
I wouldn’t have pegged you as a biochemist, n8dogg606.
by Mike Payne on Dec 28, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
close, biomedical engineer
Similar field more money xD
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:18 PM EST up reply actions
ahh
I was thinking about going entrepreneurial in that field. I work in one of the UM med school labs in immunology, and frankly there are about a hundred ways that I think the entire system could be improved from a software perspective. Granted I’m doubling with EE, and not CS, so I don’t really have a full understanding of how the code would work – but it seems easy enough to do for someone with the rights skills
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
awesome
I’m at the other u of m. University of Memphis as research faculty. You should come post-doc in my lab :D we’re working on a bunch of stuff for visualization and improving information collection/throughput for studying biochemical mechanisms at the quantum level. Went to UMich for my undergrad!
by n8dogg606 on Dec 28, 2011 8:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Haha well to be honest I really have no intentions of getting a PhD any time soon. All my goals in life really just require a masters in engineering (likely going to double there as well) and an MBA. Good to see a fellow Wolverine getting shit done though
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
In theory it should have been done already
It’s relatively simple biochem, we already know all the mechanisms and why certain pathways are inefficient. However engineering proteins gets complicated because you never know how the tertiary + quaternary structure could impact folding and thus substrate binding until you straight up try it in vivo.
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:21 PM EST up reply actions
Ben and Maxiell shouldn't be allowed to play at the same time
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 8:18 PM EST reply actions
But will he dougie?
Only time will tell.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 8:19 PM EST up reply actions
Let's go Cavs! Push it!
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3 fouls on Samardo already....
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A new Mike Brown era has begun.
not for me
I’m a Cavs fan
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A new Mike Brown era has begun.
who?
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions
Things I do not like:
The Pistons new paint job in the lanes/free throw circles.
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isn't it funny
that our offense completely falls apart with Greg Monroe off the court, but our two “point guards” in Rodney Stuckey and Brandon Knight are on court?
Daye looks horrible
Just awful.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 8:21 PM EST reply actions
Hey now
Boobie is growing up.
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C'mon, Wave
Boobie is a boob.
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Nah, better yet… tell him to take a hike and ride 40 miles on a bike.
by Kruza on Dec 28, 2011 8:22 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I mean, he might as well
Not like any of our games mean anything
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by heWizard on Dec 28, 2011 8:23 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
GOOD F'N JOB CAVS
3 STRAIGHT TURNOVERS
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
And the Pistons embarrassingly fail to capitalize on any of them.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 8:24 PM EST up reply actions
Stuckey
Showing off his ball-handling skills
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I TAKE BACK EVERYTHING I SAID ABOUT THIS GAME BEING WATCHABLE
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Still better offense than the Bulls, right?
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I am really getting sick of watching Stuckey.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
by brgulker on Dec 28, 2011 8:26 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Only 3 more years!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:27 PM EST up reply actions
And only one more year of Antwan Jamison
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Can I Get The Under?
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:05 AM EST up reply actions
Stuckey Cheeses
No, someone’s probably made that joke already
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A new Mike Brown era has begun.
JJ and Moose back in the game.
This should solve a lot. Or at least make the game watchable again
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Jonas and Moose.
that’s about all there is to say about this team.
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by brgulker on Dec 28, 2011 8:27 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Those 2 should start
then the rest of the names go in a hat and pull for the remaining 3 spots.
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Can't for that night when our starting line up is:
Villanueva
Macklin
Wallace
Jerebko
Monroe
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
who plays the point?
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:32 PM EST up reply actions
"trout jefferson is using multiple numbers and no swears. I barely recognize you man." - Kurt Mensching
by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Stuckey is actually hitting threes this season
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 8:28 PM EST reply actions
Rodney's 3 point shooting looks a lot better
Did not see this coming
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:28 PM EST reply actions
His stroke looks a lot more natural
No more caveman-throw-boulder-then-run-n-smash-into-defender
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:29 PM EST up reply actions
Well,
Looks like Stuckey heard y’all
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These threads move fast this year.
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 8:30 PM EST reply actions
MOVE FASTER POKEY
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No Final Countdown
but plenty of LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!
That music gives me a stroke.
All the time relaxed.
Let's just drop both
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
I hate you sooooooooooooooooo much.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
SHUT YOUR WHORE MOUTH!
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by bugman222 on Dec 28, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Clearly you aren’t sexy
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:33 PM EST up reply actions
Their latest song
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:38 PM EST up reply actions
Gores is a good owner at least
That bodes well.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 8:31 PM EST reply actions
Daye's awfulness reminds me why Prince was extended.
Which just makes me more pissed.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:32 PM EST reply actions
Monroe should really have like 5 assists right now
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 8:32 PM EST reply actions
The one that he snuck around his man in the post to Tay was sweet, too
So of course he bricked it.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Finally Varejao scores!
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A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Even that basket he made was a terrible possession
Him dribbling aimlessly then chucking a jumpshot. VETERAN LEADERSHIP.
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that was creative
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Largest lead of the night for Cleveland. Whatchu gonna do?
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All aboard the "Suck for Sullinger" Train!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:35 PM EST up reply actions
Suck what?
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A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Personally, I'm down for whatever it takes.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:36 PM EST up reply actions
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I get it now…………………………ah ha ha ha………………………
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oooh, drunk Packey
that’ll be fun
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Our offense
Is a disgrace to the game of basketball
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disagree
Our defense sucks because of lack of good rebounding bigs, the rotations don’t look too bad. Our offense is just garbage right now
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:40 PM EST up reply actions
If not for how pathetic Washington and New Jersey are
The Pistons would be the worst team in the Eastern Conference
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 8:36 PM EST reply actions
you're giving the pistons too much credit
me thinks
by mcflies on Dec 28, 2011 8:37 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I wouldn't say that
Indiana’s gotten better this season
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You know what time it is?
Iso for Tay rest of the night
The Pistons can't ever get a stop
every time they get a basket to try cutting into the lead, it’s almost inevitable the D will give up points the next time down the floor.
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All right Cavs
You are NOT blowing anything down the stretch this time.
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that was...suggestive.
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debatable
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
rec’d for vortigaunt speak
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:43 PM EST up reply actions
oh well…you know.
Too much of a good thing…
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there was a time when they used to
but good things and gay sex sometimes go together, right?
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they always go together
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:45 PM EST up reply actions
COME ON CAVS!
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Moose should man up
and put his sack in Varejao’s face
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:41 PM EST up reply actions
Put Varejao's sack in Varejao's face.
Self-teabagged.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
that might just do it
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:42 PM EST up reply actions
I have a better idea.
The two of them should have a SACK RACE.
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Every team should have 1 guy
who serves no purpose other than to go out and deck somebody.
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I volunteer Jason Maxiell.
Not like he does anything else anyway.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:47 PM EST up reply actions
That's Hockey. This Is Basketball.
This is DBB, and this is what we do.
by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:08 AM EST up reply actions
How in the hell can you be down 14
to the Cavs in your home opener. Worst Pistons team ever.
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getting man handled by the cavs at home. yep.
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by brgulker on Dec 28, 2011 8:41 PM EST via Android app reply actions
At this point, I should probably go to FTS
Leave you guys alone. It’s tough enough watching this quarter unfold without a Cavs fan hanging around, huh?
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Thanks bugman222
This is why I love you guys and I love hanging out here.
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Varejo just knocked Daye across the head to get that rebound
What a joke.
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literally trailing by double digits against Cleveland
this shortened season is a blessing
by NintendoPlaystationNumbers on Dec 28, 2011 8:43 PM EST reply actions
LOL, Pistons are a bunch of pussies.
Especially Austin Daye. Fuck this team, I refuse to watch another game.
All the time relaxed.
You'll be back
If I kept coming back for more last year game after game, so will you.
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I'm Impressed
the word “pussy” was used, which is obviously foreign in it’s meaning to you, yet you still replied.
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:09 AM EST up reply actions
Getting killed on the glass, hey let's draft another fucking guard.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:45 PM EST reply actions
wooo!
Knight looked ice cold
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:45 PM EST reply actions
The last thing I need right now is to hear Mateen's dumb ass talk
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 8:46 PM EST reply actions
Shoot.
Oh well. 50-39 at halftime looks so much more beautiful than 31-41 the other night.
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Is there a worse analyst than Mateen?
He had to have been homeless to give him a job analyzing basketball.
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Mateen, from South America
HEART!
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Bismack Biyombo blocks Chris Bosh's layup
Blocks and Dunks : Phase 1 has begun.
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
All right guys, I gotta get going.
I’ll see you next time. Thanks for putting up with me.
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Good luck
Looks like the Cavs will avoid finishing last in the division, at least. I really like Thompson.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Craig Monroe played really good
fart noises
by Packey on Dec 28, 2011 8:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
He sounds like Tracy Morgan doing an impression of an awkward analyst.
Look at the game tape!
All the time relaxed.
Mateen Cleaves is not an accredited analyst nor does he hold an advanced degree in broadcasting; he is simply an enthusiastic young man with a 6th grade education with an abiding love for the Pistons. Share his love tonight on the Fox Sports Detroit halftime report.
GOOD EVENING! I’m MATEEN CLEEVES! Welcome to Detroit, Chuck.
by Packey on Dec 28, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
Yep, helped the Tigers to that 2006 World Series run!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:52 PM EST up reply actions
How many times did we work through Monroe in the post in the 2nd quarter?
The lack of offense is not a coincidence.
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Which One?
You mean the one Shaq played in? Game 6, Kings-Lakers?
I was driving back to LA tonight, missed the game.
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:11 AM EST up reply actions
MP that's because last year he was a low-level bench player
by bluedogg on Dec 28, 2011 8:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Austin Daye is also the only one on our team with a positive +/-
How is that even possible?
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:52 PM EST reply actions
Taio Cruz is balding
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 8:55 PM EST reply actions
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by heWizard on Dec 28, 2011 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Austin Daye is somehow making me miss Charlie Villanueva.
I didn’t think that was possible.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:56 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I haven't seen a Mr. Alan's commercial in a coon's age.
1 for 30 or 2 for fittay!
All the time relaxed.
coon’s age
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 8:58 PM EST up reply actions
Langlois drops a knowledge bomb
Cavs had 15 turnovers in first half. Still up by 11. Pistons 6 assists, 9 turnovers. Shooting: 37% vs. 57%
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looks like we're winning the TO:Assist battle!
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:03 PM EST up reply actions
I don't mind losing
because we’re gonna lose a lot this year, with this team. But not while paying CV, BG, StUCKey, and Isotay. I mean the more I think about nearly capping out with those 4 over the next 3 years, the more it makes me sick. Can we start a Fire JoD petition campaign if come July 2nd at least 2 of those guys are not gone?
I Don't Mind Losing, Period
how are you going to get to the lottery without Tay or Stuckey? The moment you deal them for a competent big man (if that’s even possible) you are fuckeefucked.
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:12 AM EST up reply actions
Are they looking for Monroe more?
Really?
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:07 PM EST reply actions
Blocking out
is what people who can’t jump have to do. I know this all too well.
All the time relaxed.
I find it really ironic that Stuckey's 3 point shooting has improved
but he’s missing layups he used to convert last year
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:08 PM EST reply actions
I think, "Ooooh"
is this year’s, “Heeeeey!”
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:08 PM EST reply actions
Did I just see Ben Gordon set a screen on Varejao?
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 9:09 PM EST reply actions
LOL!
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:10 PM EST up reply actions
Did someone say BG should get 15 looks?
That might actually work. Eventually.
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:11 PM EST reply actions
Those Cleveland traps are working way better than they should
Our ball movements suck ass
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:11 PM EST reply actions
Every time they get close
they give up a 4-0 to 8-0 mini spurt and are right back where they started.
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As soon as the Pistons get back in the game
They immediately shoot themselves in the foot and fall behind by 8-10 points again. It’s all they know, I guess.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 9:13 PM EST reply actions
Does no one one this team know how to handle a basketball?
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 9:13 PM EST reply actions
Ben Gordon feels like he's in a groove
But he’s not. I doubt this will end well.
My federal building is way cooler than your federal building.
Actually, the Pistons are making the Cavs look decent.
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
This will all be worth it when we get Anthony Davis
Blurg.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 9:15 PM EST reply actions
I refuse to root for anyone that has a unibrow.
All the time relaxed.
by Supa Dupe on Dec 28, 2011 9:16 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In other news, the Heat are now beating the Bobcats in the 4th
As if this night couldn’t get any better…
My federal building is way cooler than your federal building.
HOW MANY TIMES ARE THEY GOING TO PLAY THAT FUCKING LMFAO SONG!!!!!!!!
AND NO FINAL COUNTDOWN!!!!!!
All the time relaxed.
Which One?
I’m in Windsor, Bitch?
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:14 AM EST up reply actions
Someone needs to help Moose box out already
They can’t expect him to rebound if he’s got 3 Cavs around him at all times
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:17 PM EST reply actions
how did that work lol
looks like a winning combination though
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:17 PM EST reply actions
Knight looked good on that drive
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:17 PM EST reply actions
Knight is looking REAL good right now
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 9:18 PM EST reply actions
Knight!!!
Also shouldn’t that be a flagrant 1?
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:18 PM EST reply actions
KNIGHT!
And that’s a damn flagrant.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 9:18 PM EST reply actions
that's what i thought
Any contact in the head/neck area while in the air is a flagrant right?
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
It sure was.
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
It's not a Pistons game until...
COUNT THAT BABY AND A FOUL!
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by rovitz707 on Dec 28, 2011 9:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Knight?!?!!
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:19 PM EST reply actions
Sick finish.
Welcome, B. Knight.
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That floater was quite D-Rose looking
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:20 PM EST up reply actions
Good thing it’s not Family Night.
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Are the Aristocrats playing tonight, as well?
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
Knight sucks
did you see how bad he missed that free throw?
by Packey on Dec 28, 2011 9:20 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Boehner/Weiner > Dotus/Votus
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:23 PM EST up reply actions
rec’d for MFPackey’s on a roll
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:24 PM EST up reply actions
/brgulkered
"trout jefferson is using multiple numbers and no swears. I barely recognize you man." - Kurt Mensching
by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 9:21 PM EST up reply actions
He doesn't
have the most beautiful stroke…I’ll give you that
by DetroitDonovan on Dec 28, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
He hit his target
The rebound stubbed Varejao’s finger
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rec’d for gulker’d
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:22 PM EST up reply actions
Dammit, Tay
You fucking dickhead. UGH I WANT YOU GONE. GRAB THAT BALL.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 9:23 PM EST reply actions
Ramon bricks a floater himself.
Clearly, MP, the basketball gods are telling you to leave the golden calf in Sessions and worship a true basketball prophet.
"trout jefferson is using multiple numbers and no swears. I barely recognize you man." - Kurt Mensching
by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 9:23 PM EST reply actions
Good lord
Knight is KILLING THEM.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 9:24 PM EST reply actions
I thought it was the other way around
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
ok time to take Knight out of the game
He’s hitting too many shots
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:25 PM EST reply actions
Nothing about Brandon Knight has ever excited me, not the preseason, not his college numbers
Nothing. Until now.
It's going to be a Talladega Knight
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Knight Rider!
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:25 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
kid is going off.
i was just about to change the channel before this happened.
www.twitter.com/frikshun
Don't Tell Gulks
He’s going to get the vapors and all, having expertly analyzed his entire career watching him three times.
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:16 AM EST up reply actions
hey come on now V...
not cool man…you wouldn’t want us to assume that he’s over-reacting or anything.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
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Knight doesn't bring blocks OR dunks to us
But he might still be an okay player
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What a crossover
Knight’s a monster
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:26 PM EST reply actions
He's SO FAST
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
Brandon Knight needs to start
Like tomorrow.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 9:26 PM EST reply actions
Can we go back in time and have him start tonight?
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
must create flux capacitor.....
that way he can start monday as well!
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
shameless’d
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by heWizard on Dec 28, 2011 9:29 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'm cool with going just about anywhere
but Cleveland. I mean who the fuck says I’m going to Cleveland for vacation?
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
Liz Lemon
And people being inducted into the Rock And Roll Hall of Fame
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Well she certainly won’t be seeing Joakim Noah there
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
dude is looking like a lil' monster!
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:27 PM EST up reply actions
A stop.
Would be nice.
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fuck you Tay
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:27 PM EST reply actions
stuckey and tay two man game
BBBBBBBBBBBAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF
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Let's not get jumper happy now Greg...
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:29 PM EST reply actions
This is probably Villanueva's fault.
“Hey, you know it’s easier to score if you don’t go towards the basket?”
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
wait its 75-68 in the third
i just turned the game back on and assumed it was the 4th. exceeding expectations you guys.
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game was close until Tay/Daye took ball away from Knight
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:30 PM EST up reply actions
the fuck Daye
get that shit out of here
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:30 PM EST reply actions
0-5
still a dick minus
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Daye even air-balls an open corner three
What is WRONG with him?
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 9:30 PM EST reply actions
can we trade daye, stuckey, and maxiell
for a bag of chips, hasheem thabeet, and a 2018 second round draft pick?
Stuckey hasn't been too bad
Very solid game monday at least
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
yeah but...
resigning Stuckey was a massive mistake. He can’t play the 2 and Brandon Knight is better than him at the point. For all the problems he’s going to cause, its better to just trade him now.
by bluedogg on Dec 28, 2011 9:35 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
finally a good play
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:31 PM EST reply actions
Pretty sad that after all that
We’re tied in the quarter
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is boobie gibson living off that one game against the pistons for his entire career?
has he done anything since then? besides have pillow fights with lebron i mean.
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pretty much
I’m he’s fucking boobie gibson… who the hell lives up to that name and has a good career?
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
i could see there being some dude named Boobie from the ABA who was a badass that smoked angel dust and wore big gold chain and eventually was killed in a back alley in Knoxville or something.
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by dandresden on Dec 28, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Pecs of Destiny ~= boobie
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
Why Aren't You This Funny On Twitter?
If he was a bro, I’d go with Nashville. Knoxville is too White Sheet country (Gatlinburg is gorgeous, though).
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:18 AM EST up reply actions
agreed
still no D and some bad decisions..but atleast he’s found his stroke and some confidence
by DetroitDonovan on Dec 28, 2011 9:33 PM EST up reply actions
SHOCK!
He can score when you give him the ball.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
Mike, Someone Hack Your Account?
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:19 AM EST up reply actions
The Pistons scored 30 points this quarter
and trimmed the lead by ONE. Just awful D.
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Knight should be +10
But we have no defense…
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:34 PM EST up reply actions
I Thought they changed the rule
Where a player could jump in the air and the offensive player jumps into him. Honestly, that looked dangerous, the way BG jumped into him.
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:33 PM EST reply actions
why did i come here again.
this looks like a disaster of a game.
So is Tebow in the stands
Could use him for the 4th quarter…
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rather have Stafford
He led bigger comebacks than Tebow, just never got recognition by the media for it
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
True Dat!!
Cant believe he is the third alternate in the probowl… Talk About a Snub!
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Media Is A Joke
First they dis CJ for being non-elite. Then they diss Staff because he only throws to “elite” CJ.
Which reminds me, how the fuck do Skip Bayless and Rob Parker get paid to talk about sports on TV?
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:22 AM EST up reply actions
He Lives In Oakland Co, You Know
…and both Bob and Marshall are very well liked and respected in the community. Just so you know.
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:24 AM EST up reply actions
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/det/roster
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by heWizard on Dec 28, 2011 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
maybe the team is finally officially tanking?
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:38 PM EST up reply actions
That requires
players other then combo guards
by DetroitDonovan on Dec 28, 2011 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
THIS JUST IN:
Ben Gordon still knows how to play basktball
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aaaaaaaaannnnd
it’s gone.
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that's why i don't believe in money market mutual funds
I invest all my money in humancentIpad research
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fErOzTcWixw&feature=related
check yoself
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
This is like watching the old Lions
every time the D needs a stop, they don’t get it. This team is going to cause people to break many things this season.
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It's Kind Of Funny
Between Isiah, Dumars and Microwave, there was only one true combo guard.
Between Rip, CB and James, you could argue both CB and James.
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:27 AM EST up reply actions
lost on basically a buzzer beater
still pretty impressive
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
Diaw nearly had a triple double
they might have a really good year
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
i think he once admitted that sheed fouled someone.
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by dandresden on Dec 28, 2011 9:44 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Bright side
Jerebko, Monroe and Knight looked good. So our future looked good
(This is forgetting for a minute that Joe is holding on to the past and will mess up the growth and talent of these 3 guys)
WWGMD?
KNIGHT
of magic?
#shameless
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:45 PM EST reply actions
I have a delusional friend who keeps playing the refs for us losing.
I keep trying to reason with him, and he won’t listen.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 9:45 PM EST reply actions
I think after tonight
the Starters are Monroe, Knight, Gordon, Jerebko, ?. And we send Daye to the glue factory.
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Ben Wallace, move Monroe to PF and Jerebko to SF.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 9:47 PM EST up reply actions
What good is that gonna do?
Ben already said he didn’t want to log a ton of minutes. Then you bring a guard or forward off the bench after 8 minutes and you’re left with a small lineup again.
All the time relaxed.
Having him start =/= having him play 40 minutes a night.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
I realize that.
Really the problem is, other than Monroe, there are no good bigs. This roster is awful.
All the time relaxed.
Then we lose
but we actually get to see the team play quality basketball at least for a little while every game as well.
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
by JumpingBlob on Dec 28, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
knight looks like he might actually be alright from 3. thats going to be huge if he and stuck are going to co-exist in the backcourt
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I don't think sample size matters that much here
His stroke is nearly flawless. As long as he gets his shot selection down, he’ll be a really good 3 point shooter
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
duh
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
for a dude to step right into the NBA and start knocking dow threes like that is pretty sweet. I’m gonna enjoy this kid, I think.
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
how is that our team is comprised of 6th men
and yet we have one good bench player?
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
dude sit on your dick, then it feels like you are jerking off a stranger
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by dandresden on Dec 28, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
lolwut
wouldn’t numb dick defeat the purpose?
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
different strokes for different folks
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by dandresden on Dec 28, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
rec’d
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
I forgot Irving was playing
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:52 PM EST up reply actions
whatever man
that’s what google brought me
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
I'm all for playing Wilkins over Daye at this point
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 9:52 PM EST reply actions
Keep Knight, Moose & JJ
=> Firesale
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Why?
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 9:54 PM EST up reply actions
I think he's good
Sure hes playing bad right now but I feel like he is a good prospect, also I want Kyle Singler Back!
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No offense...
but you know nothing about basketball if you truly believe that.
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by Supa Dupe on Dec 28, 2011 9:55 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I don't know
I’ve always had this liking for Daye, but I see its just me :(
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Singler is doing pretty well right now
I’d rather have him start than Tay
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
Sadly hes
Im Madrid fucking some hot spanish chickas
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I Did That In BCN Off & On For 5 Years
But tended to stay away from the local talent, they were invariably Colombian or Brazilian. One Japanese-Brazilian gal I really liked in particular. But that was when Clinton was President, we were all making a lot more money back then.
Madrid was too cold and impersonal for me. BCN just rocks on every level.
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:31 AM EST up reply actions
Well, someone has to play for the D League squad.
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Exactly!
In all seriusness though, I think Daye can be a decent NBA player and right now thats good for the Pistons
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If I have one complaint about Monroe
it’s that he NEVER attempts to block a shot. Chooses to stand with his hands up, or continues to block out. Would like to see him attempt more swats.
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Dude is flat footed
He has no hops at all…I think he is ok of a player,but he is out of position.
you think stuckey is just going to let him stroll in and take that title?
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How can our defense be this bad?
I don’t think Cleveland’s ever shot over 55% for a game in the history of their franchise
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:56 PM EST reply actions
They have
I can assure you
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
hyperbole
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
hyperbola
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
asymptotic function != exaggeration in speech
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
yuck
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:57 PM EST up reply actions
i was digging knight so much i didnt even notice.
go with the youth Franks!
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same here
at least the games are going to be more fun to watch
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
That's it guys.
Let’s quit with 4 minutes left and let them dunk every time down the court. You motherfuckers. Check your pants for nuts.
All the time relaxed.
So we're only gonna win 5 games this year, yes?
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I could stomach a bad game
But then you slap me in the face with a Blue Collar Comedy Tour commercial, FSN Detroit? FUCK YOU.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 9:57 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Tell Shinons
One out of two ain’t bad.
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
Here's your bow
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
he was talking out bows, myes?
The defenseless Huskies vs a Heisman Trophy winner. I smell shenanigans ahead!
A new Mike Brown era has begun.
I'm so afraid that you are correct
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Might as well get used to this happening.
Because it’s going to be a recurring theme for 64 more games.
wait wheres kobe
oh wait thats not the lakers its the blue collar comedy tour coming to the palace.
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Lawrence Frank is like
“WHY did I take this job?”
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 9:59 PM EST reply actions
Mine too!!
Hahahahaha
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to stick with that and watch Chauncey throw up threes
Hopefully Blake snatches one or two before it gets there and does a freaky dunk.
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
I wish Lawrence Frank wasn't 5'5" and 130 lbs...
that way he could yell at his players for playing like a bunch of assholes.
Give me LAIMBEER!
All the time relaxed.
must be tired
shot way short
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 9:59 PM EST reply actions
Stuckey sucks
We will not win with that ballhog on the team. Selfish SOB.
let's just take a huge pooop right here in front of our home crowd on opening Knight
by Packey on Dec 28, 2011 10:01 PM EST reply actions 7 recs
Rec'd for pooop
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
think that was green'd in under a minute
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
how did you find that?
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
rec'd for Knight
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
no he's a klingon warrior and the son of Mogh
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by dandresden on Dec 28, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I think equally impressive to the scoring
Is that he had 5 assists coming off the bench, playing mainly with guys who suck ass
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:03 PM EST reply actions
Two, but one of those was Greg's fault.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
he has 2 now
still big improvement
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:04 PM EST up reply actions
Here's the thing: I want to praise Dumars for drafting Knight cause of tonight.
But then I look at the score and realize everything else wrong with this fucking team.
So fuck your fat head, Joe D.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 10:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
If we had a center
and a SF that wasn’t complete and utter trash, we wouldn’t suck so badly
WWGMD?
by Kriz on Dec 28, 2011 10:04 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I think I prefer Darko....
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
Darko=Veteran Leadership
right?
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:33 AM EST up reply actions
Victory cigar > Defeat cigar
it’s really just that simple…
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by bearded thundar on Dec 29, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
I hope when Knight is a superstar we can all look back fondly on this night
and then be real sad because he just forced a trade to the knicks.
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I could accept this if we hadn't resigned Stuckey and Prince
And were straight up rebuilding and trying for Anthony Davis or whoever. Instead, we have a bunch of bad contracts to go with out shit team.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 10:06 PM EST reply actions
Did anyone else's feed on firstrow
Start showing the Clippers game?
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no look to Macklin!
I could get used to this
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:06 PM EST reply actions
nah he's supposed to be really athletic
I was surprised he fell to us when i say the combine results, but the performance numbers say it all
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
rec'd for say
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
At least Knight and Gordon are still trying hard
this team would be a solid foundation if it weren’t for Tay, CV and perhaps Stuckey…
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:07 PM EST reply actions
I wish I could rent Blaha to provide commentary for my job.
Cold calling would suck way less.
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I was thinking earlier
that I want Mason to introduce my future wedding party just like he would introduce the Pistons.
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Good call
Congrats on the impending wedding too! Best decision I’ve ever made was to marry my wife.
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Oh i'm not engaged
just planning ahead. But thanks for the congratulations when it does happen!
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Can we just give Maxiell's minutes to Macklin?
I mean, why not?
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 10:07 PM EST reply actions
It looked like he didn't know he was gonna dunk it or throw it off the class
and by the time he decided it was too late
WWGMD?
Knight is just on fire
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:09 PM EST reply actions
Extremely impressed with Knight, I hope he gets to start over Stuckey sometime this season
Kind of disappointed with Daye once again having a strong preseason (although it was only 2 games) and being non-existent so far in the regular season (again its only 2 games).
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Eh, screw Daye.
I say show him the exercise bike at game time and make him peddle to the 40-mile mark.
So good news
Knight is a fucking boss
Bad News
This is going to be a long-short season….
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105 points given up against the Cavs.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 10:10 PM EST reply actions
didn't you hear we have a 25 point handicap?
So actually….
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
no me neither, i didnt have to watch tay stagger all over the place and saw minimal stuckey bricks.
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he actually hit most of his jumpers
missed a bunch of layups though (hopefully that’ll be fixed when he gets his legs back?)
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
that floater is a nice shot. glad knight has that in his arsenal
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floater+deadly range shooter + no look passes for dunks
= I am headed off to the laundry machine
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:11 PM EST up reply actions
Good news guys!
Mateen was impressed with Knight! It’s all going to be OK!
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by rovitz707 on Dec 28, 2011 10:10 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Anthony Davis, here we come!
Blocks and dunks 2.0!
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 10:11 PM EST reply actions
FUN FACTS: This was the best shooting game of Knight's pro and college career.
His 77% shooting tonight is better than any game he had in Kentucky.
I'm not surprised
He was in the wrong role at Kentucky
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions
should have expected
you just want to see the guy fail
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by bearded thundar on Dec 29, 2011 10:22 AM EST up reply actions
more unnecessary MP defending gulker’s dislike for Knight. I’m shocked.
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by bearded thundar on Dec 29, 2011 10:44 AM EST up reply actions
Dude here’s a tip: don’t misrepresent anyone’s opinion, especially to a hyperbolic degree. It’s a dickhead thing to do, and no matter who you do it to, I’m going to call you on it. Grow up, BT.
well, there was this from brother Gulker
I’m not sure I feel about my own feelings about this, but I want Dumars to fail, too. I know that’s awful of me, but it’s just the truth. I want Stuckey to keep being Stuckey, I want Tay to get old and start sucking, I want Brandon Knight to suck as a rookie, I want Charlie and BG to keep being themselves, all so we suck and get a good draft pick (which Dumars will botch), and then get fired.
I think you need to simmer a little on trolling it, though, brother BT (and I was guilty of it myself last night).
I didn't realize that
If that’s what BT was referencing, it was neither hyperbole or misrepresentation. I’m in the wrong here, sorry BT.
That quote, out of the larger context of the conversation, is pretty misleading.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
I'm not seeing how it's at all misleading
It was apart of a thread wherein Toledo Joe asked who would be worse than the Pistons this year. It was a direct response to mcflies’ comment here:
I hope so
1) i want to watch biyombo
2) i want the bobcats to have a better record
3) i want dumars to fail
4) by succeeding at getting a top 3 pick
5) and then get fired
which was in response to Mike answering mcflies’ question as to whether or not Biyombo would play. It sounds like you were responding with your own hopes and dreams, which you admitted to being unsure about. What am I missing?
Ummm...
Look, things are going to suck this year, and suck pretty bad. We’re probably 3d-5th worst team in the league. We have one quality big man, and one guy who probably should have retired (but I’m grateful he’s playing), and a bunch of wing players. Both our 3 and 4 are playing out of position.
Now, when you’re hating on Dumars or the situation or the team, you guys are pretty funny. But it’s not so funny when you start doing it to each other.
I don’t get why Gulks hates young Brandon’s game so much, it’s too early to tell whether he can adapt to the NBA, let’s give it 20-25 games first. Knight had no training camp, no summer league, he’s 20yo, he’s going to be raw. But he’s still entitled to his opinion. I’m entitled to disagree with it, but I’m not going to get personal with him over it.
I can speak with authority on this because I get clowned a bit for defending Dumars and the ownership situation. It’s ok, after all, it’s just a message board, right?
Things will probably improve after this season. We get a quality big in the lottery, a year or two we sign a quality FA (nothing looks good IMO for 2012), we’re back in it again.
I think some of you guys are a little spoiled, and take this to heart a little too much.
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 4:43 PM EST up reply actions
Serious question.
What’s going on lately? I honestly don’t know what I did to offend you.
All I can think of is the 20/8 thing, which from my perspective, wasn’t hostile or offensive. It was just a disagreement.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
And the multiple times I’ve expressed the opinion that I think Knight should be the starting PG very soon.
So yeah, I think MP’s right. You’re misrepresenting what I’m saying, and I think you’re doing it because you’re peeved at me (and sincerely, I don’t know why).
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
It's the uniform. The attire of winners.
(before all these clowns ruined it with their buffoonery.)
Scratch that, before Joe decided to take a shit on these franchise winning history.
WWGMD?
by Kriz on Dec 28, 2011 10:12 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Technically, we only had a winning history from the 80's onwards.
Our overall record was still sub. 500 even before this era of sucktitude.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Is he Monroe all over again?
Where we don’t like his college stats, but his came just ends up translating well to the pro game?
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
Self rec'd for "came"
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
Monroe had some things going for him.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
So did Knight
His FG% wasn’t great, but his TS% was solid. It was his first year playing PG at any level, I think, so the assist to turnover ratio wasn’t likely to be good. We thought Monroe couldn’t rebound and that certainly turned out to be incorrect.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Dec 28, 2011 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
that's what i'm thinking
I distinctly remember people ripping on Moose last year despite the game footage showing a lot of promise. What’d ya know? His skills were perfect for the role we’ve given him
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
I think that’s a little premature.
The really good thing that Knight has going for him is his ability to make 3’s (assuming this isn’t just a total fluke). The other thing he seems good at is assisting teammates. Those two reasons, in and of themselves, are enough for him to be the starter by year’s end, IMO.
But he’s still got some big red flags that didn’t pop up last night, namely, two-point shooting, turnovers, getting to the line, and defense.
He’s also coming of a career shooting night, so we’re probably all riding that high a little bit.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
HOF
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Dec 28, 2011 10:14 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
first ballot!
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
what is this unintelligible blather coming out of cleaves mouth?
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It's his expert analysis of an NBA game...
because he had such an illustrious career.
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Fuck the Spartans.
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by Supa Dupe on Dec 28, 2011 10:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
The old guys aren't ready to let these young punks take over the league, yet.
Although, without McDyess, it’s not so sweet.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
Alright, so the guys who played decent to great tonight:
Ben Gordon
Jonas Jerebko
Greg Monroe
Brandon Knight
Two of those guys are on rookie deals, one is on a $4 million a year deal, and one is grossly overpaid at $11 million.
So what’s happening with the rest of that money? Did we just set it on fire?
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 10:22 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
25 points@ 9/19 shooting and 4 assists
That’s a Wade type performance right there. He gave us our money’s worth today
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:24 PM EST up reply actions
I heard Wade plays D.
What would Earl Boykins do?
by FMFDOC8404 on Dec 29, 2011 12:56 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Rec'd for truth.
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Gordon quietly had a really good game
If we get a real center to make up for the size problems, those two could make a deadly backcourt
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:23 PM EST reply actions
I don’t see it. Knight hasn’t shown defensive ability yet, and his backcourt mate needs to offset that— something Gordon will never do. Not even Dwight Howard could heal that wound.
I dunno, Dwight has had some pretty shitty guards to cover for.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 10:25 PM EST up reply actions
even super short Jameer Nelson is a step above Ben Gordon
they’ve actually done a decent job defending the wings in Orlando around Dwight
Absolutely Not
Jameer sucks, and was CB’s personal bitch every time we played ORL.
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 3:38 AM EST up reply actions
I see what you’re saying, but he’s never really impressed me at all.
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by V. on Dec 29, 2011 5:01 PM EST up reply actions
A defensive stopper wing would also be necessary
Basically we’d need Tay to dial to clock 5 years, but I don’t think it’s impossible
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
historically, when has a super short guard duo dominated? it’s a nice thought, but I think you’re getting wayyyy ahead of yourself.
Joe+Isiah come to mind (yes I know)
All I’m saying is that seems to be our best option for a backcourt baring a major trade
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
one of the best defensive shooting guards in the history of the NBA comes to mind to justify a Gordon/Knight backcourt?
All I’m saying is that seems to be our best option for a backcourt baring a major trade
It’s hard to argue with that, good point.
whoops shit
I meant to blockquote your mention of “All I’m saying is that seems to be our best option for a backcourt baring a major trade”, not slashthrough it. My bad.
that’s why i specifically put in “(yes I know)”
but yeah i don’t see any better option in the near future
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
Who's the Paul George of this draft?
Knight+a really big 2 would also be intriguing
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:27 PM EST reply actions
Paul George isn't a toothpick though
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by bearded thundar on Dec 29, 2011 10:23 AM EST up reply actions
I suggest this be the newest DBB meme.
Every time Stuckey/Villanueva/Prince/Gordon does something bad.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
It's taking much of my strength
to not buy the warm-up top. Those things are sweet. Making the same plea with the Pistons as I did the Lions. No merch til the team starts winning.
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Watched the game on DVR. Just finished up.
Quick thoughts:
Brandon Knight: Glad to see some offensive efficiency (23 on 13 shots) but he didn’t strike me as ever really “playing point guard” tonight. Also, no defense.
Ben Gordon: Shot too much, but I guess that’s “his thing.” Decent game for being almost entirely one-dimensional.
Moose: Too many turnovers. Sloppy post moves and poor positioning on the boards.
Austin Daye: Played like a guy who should be cut. Christ Almighty.
Tayshaun: Dude doesn’t give a shit. Got his one wide open awkward mini-jump jumper and flying hook lay-in. Lazy D.
Stuckey: Pretty ho-hum game. Seems to be earning that relatively modest contract, though.
All in all? No bueno. I expected them to suck, but wow. They suck.
good to see you didn’t enjoy the game
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
I was enjoying the game
until I realized that the shitty way they were playing was the shitty way they play.
by TDP on Dec 28, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
i enjoyed the game due to:
a) minimum tayshaun, hopefully his knee keeps him out all season
b)what felt like minimum stuckey, i dont how much he played and i only saw the 2nd half but it felt like he was barely out there.
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I thought the same thing
but the box score says he played 32+ minutes. 11 points, 12 shots. Poop dick, bro.
Unless my internet is broken
ESPN is telling me Phoenix has 34 points. In the 3rd quarter. Wow.
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they used to routinely put up 40
It’s too bad that team is in major decline (and likely done when Nash retires), they used to be really fun to watch
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
*40 per quarter
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
It’s good to see a team with a darker future than ours. When your team sucks, it’s always nice to say we’re bad, but we’re not “insert team” bad. Sadly, most teams’ fans say that about us
Heh, when you’re forced to play Hakim Warrick extended minutes at center like the Suns are, you know you have major size problems.
that game was cool and all but when are we going to see this new pistons locker room?
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Dammit, quit talking about how all these other teams are sucking.
We can’t have all this lottery competition!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 10:37 PM EST reply actions
Also, I am convinced the Celtics are pulling a Spurs here.
Intentionally tanking the season to land their next David Robinson Kevin Garnett.
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
they had to tank a long ass time to get KG though
and they didn’t even get him out of a draft; don’t think that strategy works nearly as well in basketball as it does in the NFL
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:44 PM EST up reply actions
them and the Knicks are about it
Most of the time it backfires. The draft just doesn’t consistently have good talent unlike other sports. You see late picks become really good players in baseball and basketball – however it’s considered to be really lucky if you get a second round player into the rotation for the NBA.
You see way too many teams get stuck in limbo despite routine lottery picks for me to consider tanking a valid strategy in the NBA
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:48 PM EST up reply actions
rec'd for baseball and basketball
should have been baseball and football
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
calm down blaha
the c’s are going to carve this weak sauce team up
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No, Boston is going to out-tank us.
Dammit, we’re going to beat them!
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by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 10:42 PM EST up reply actions
oh they will rue the day they try to out tank the detroit pistons
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by dandresden on Dec 28, 2011 10:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Yeah, we have what they don't:
A stunning lack of talent.
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by heWizard on Dec 29, 2011 1:49 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
"trout jefferson is using multiple numbers and no swears. I barely recognize you man." - Kurt Mensching
by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
If Knight starts..
And Suckey never,ever,ever runs an offense again. Oh and ban Daye from the locker room yeah we may win that game.
We might start winning again if we fire Dumars.
"trout jefferson is using multiple numbers and no swears. I barely recognize you man." - Kurt Mensching
by Trout Jefferson on Dec 28, 2011 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure that will work.
We’d also have to cut the entire roster that he’s assembled and then try to convince the league that here has never been a team in Detroit before.
Is this trollish?
Smells trollish to me.. Lmao!!
I would say about 60%
And that’s just because you rag on debate with anyone who disagrees with you.. So they are either..lurking to read these great articles,or they agree with you,only because they don’t want to deal with you. See Mike,to some people a championship means more then the Janet Jackson quote “What have you done for me lately” Ohhh ohhh ohhh yeah.
debate with anyone who disagrees with you
We all do that here. If I say something and one of the regulars disagrees, they will debate me just as I would debate them. When things can stay objective, the discussions are fruitful.
to some people a championship means more then the Janet Jackson quote "What have you done for me lately"
A championship 8 years ago. Just as it is a citizen’s patriotic duty to question authority, it is ours to question the authority over this team as fans. You can look at the situation with blind faith, or you can approach it with objectivity. In this community, if you opine from a position of blind faith, you’re going to hear about it.
With All Due Respect
Blind faith you say? From 2000-2003 we were a pretty good team. We won a championship 2004,responsible for breaking up a dynasty in the Lakers,eastern conference champs the following season (2005),2006 lost Big Ben and still went to the eastern finals. Eastern Conference Finals for the six straight season all due to Joe Dumars. Only 3-4 years removed from greatness. And all this hate? Please tell me what has Cleveland,Sacramento,Orlando,Chicago,Clippers,Indiana,Portland,
New York,New Orleans…Dude I can go on and on,but what have those GMs done that even compares to what the Pistons have done under Joe Dumars? I have always agreed that a few deals/drafts,have been questionable,but jeeze you cannot have it all in life Mike. The man deserves a chance to make this right after 3-4 years of being in the dumps. But you and a few others continue to rag and forget what Joe has given us in the past. 3-4 years ago?. I have actually seen a few of you wanted Joe to fail..Wtf is that about? I call that “blind fury” and I also call this the “Janet Jackson” syndrone…Ohhh Ohhh Ohhh Yeah.
yo roco
Is this shit fixed yet? 2 more years, maybe? So, “3-4 years of being in the dumps”, plus 2 more? That’s fucking 5-6 years of suck. Not a lot of people keep jobs when they shit the bed for 6 years straight. Just sayin.
by C$ on Dec 29, 2011 4:04 PM EST up reply actions
Well...
I tend to agree with Roco on a lot of what he says, although I said my piece long before he came aboard.
Let’s me distill it for you: if you think Dumars was done after signing CV and BG, he deserves to get fired. Obviously, he had a deal for Rip in place when signing BG, and it got vetoed by ownership (I will suggest it was for Boozer, as has been rumored previously). Since he’s still employed there, and since I am going to assume Gores knows exactly everything that went on previously, I’m going to assume this scenario. Because the situation is irrational if it isn’t.
The one complaint I might have with Dumars is when trading for AI, blowing up the team on purpose, is that he might have foreseen Mr. D’s health and ability to run the team beforehand. He certainly had to know Tom Wilson was out the door as soon as Mr. D passed (Wilson might have lost his power there well beforehand), and he certainly had to know what he was dealing with in Ostfield and KD. So, he might have gambled he could have gotten everything done before this happened, which it didn’t.
But we’ve been down this road before…and it’s history now. I think our future looks ok, although this year is going to suck.
This is DBB, and this is what we do.
by V. on Dec 29, 2011 4:54 PM EST up reply actions
Obviously, he had a deal for Rip in place when signing BG, and it got vetoed by ownership
This is not objective information, V. It is your opinion based on rumors— not confirmed facts. This is why your defense of Dumars takes so much heat here, because the rest of us rely on objective data, like actual signings, trades and drafts, to state our claims.
You can have a gut feeling that Dumars had a deal on the table. You can feel that some sports writer mouthpiece was telling the truth when he said X about Y. But stuff that doesn’t happen just doesn’t hold any value when you’re having a conversation in a community like this. There are rumors and there is record, and to have a fair and honest community, only the latter should be admissible.
Then there’s the other thing, even if Rip was no longer on the team and Joe signed Ben Gordon and Charlie Villanueva— this would still have been a terrible failure.
"Clears throat" Hey Mike?
Over here dude..Please respond to my comment on my supposed blind faith? You have a tendency to elude when your argument gets Murky. I am not saying YOU want Dumars fired,or want him to fail but you keep defending those that do.. Is this not blind fury?
Well said V
I’m with ya here,and MFMP seems to shrug off anything he doesn’t agree with as
not objective information
not at all, Roco. I’ll explain:
A GM is responsible for assembling and altering players and coaching staff. There are three ways a GM does that w/r/t players:
Draft picks
Trades
Free agency signings
Overall, there is a metric of wins as it relates to those moves.
Collectively, those four elements are the only objective measures that can be used to determine the value of a general manager. Anything else, from rumors that didn’t happen on down the line— just doesn’t fucking matter.
Even if these "Rumors"
Were from a close anonymous source? I hear you on this,but I’m saying if the press gets hold of this info,and doesn’t call it “rumor” then this was a deal that simply fell throw.
then this was a deal that simply fell throw.
This is my entire point— a GM should only be judged for things that actually happen.
by Mike Payne on Dec 29, 2011 5:44 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ok so
Even if he is trying to get us good players..For example:
He is trying to get us a big in here,and will trade Suckey,CV,and lets say Daye. They are ready to pull the trigger on this deal,but Daye just flat out sucks because he is weak minded. The deal falls through,so that means Joe gets no credit for trying? Just more fat jokes and disrespect?
He is trying to get us a big in here,and will trade Suckey,CV,and lets say Daye. They are ready to pull the trigger on this deal,but Daye just flat out sucks because he is weak minded. The deal falls through,so that means Joe gets no credit for trying?
ABSOLUTELY, he gets ZERO credit for trying to trade the shitty players he signed and drafted. If he can’t trade them because they suck, it’s his fault for signing/drafting them in the first place. Come on, man!
Ok Mike
I see it differently,making an attempt at fixing a bad situation is far better then doing nothing at all. Effort counts for something.
Tell my boss that.
If I sat at my desk all day making phone calls and not actually selling anything I’d get shit-canned. So if my menial, trivial, boring as all hell sales job is results oriented, I’m willing to bet a job called General Manager of the Detroit Pistons probably is too.
All the time relaxed.
by Supa Dupe on Dec 29, 2011 10:26 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
This is a terrible argument.
If I’m a GM and trying to land Lebron James when I have no shot at making this reality, then I’m a terrible and delusional GM. Yeah, I’m trying to make the team better, but I’d be failing. I need to not strap myself into bad contracts based on far fetched trade attempts time after time and sticking with them long after they’ve lost hope and pray that one day I get lucky.
Dumars arranged one hell of a starting 5 and won us all a beautiful championship. But since then he has failed to aquire lasting frontline help that we’ve needed ever since Darko went bust. He’s picked up shitty streaky shooting backups instead of pulling in complementary pieces to what we had. And rather than valuing irreplacable players who had impact by themselves and in comination with others. He let them go and kept the replacable guys. Hell, he decided the future of the franchise should go through Rodney Stuckey when he’s had the same flaws in his game all along. At least wait to be certain before casting aside the PG that has been your leader and coach on the floor the entire time.
Dumars has seriously misvalued players these past few years. He’s still grabbed some nice players throught the draft and trades. But he can’t put the pieces together. This is a disjointed team and he’s done a lot to cause it. He has created a habit of losing the players we need and keeping the players we don’t. And we haven’t seen a single trade to remedy his mistakes. All we have are players that don’t complement each other, signed for too much and too long.
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by JumpingBlob on Dec 29, 2011 7:58 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Jumping Blob
Do you not think he is trying to fix this situation? Or do you think he is just sitting around doing nothing. Shit happens and mistakes are made,allow him to correct. All I’m saying and thanks for your input sir.
I think he knew exactly what he wanted when he signed Sheed. He had a great team at the time and Sheed was the piece that would put them over the top.
Since then, Dumars has lost sight of what he needs to do. He didn’t know what the team needed in the following years to win another title. And he didn’t know how to transition a great, yet aging team into something new. And he doesn’t know how to get out from under the shit heap he has now created.
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
Roco:
Personally, I don’t want Jod to fail, I want him to stop doing things worthy of the AFI tag. With hot moves like extending Tay for another FOUR YEARS (!!) it seems to me that wish has not yet been fulfilled. You can see why this puts a fan like me in a bind. I want to watch the Pistons play good ball, but IME Jod’s recent body of work leaves me doubtful he is capable of delivering said wish.
Basic Difference Between MP & Me
Mike looks at effect, I look at causation. Personally I think you need to get to causation before you get to effect. I always assume two things:
1) The level and amount of info we’re dealing with here.
2) What (we) the public knows is very limited and at a low level.
Mike’s approach is fine, it’s generally based in metrics, as he has pointed out. I prefer a more involved, multidisciplinary analysis.
This is DBB, and this is what we do.
by V. on Dec 29, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
Not effect, V.
Transactions. That’s all I look at. The shit a GM actually does.
I cite transactions, you cite assumptions.
No it's not fixed yet C$
But we are getting some good pieces to build around for the future.
slowly, but yes, we are
we’re also getting some head scratching contracts, too. I’d prefer an all in method of rebuilding now.
by C$ on Dec 29, 2011 5:58 PM EST up reply actions
this dead horse is rolling over in its grave
But here I go anyway:
I don’t have a strong opinion either way. At this point, I wouldn’t be pissed or surprised if he was fired, and I’ve halfheartedly clamored for it before, but I also don’t think it’s absolutely necessary (yet). If I had to choose a side for argument’s sake, I’d be Larry David torn between the Jews and the Palestinian-owned Al Abbas Chicken place. And I say that while acknowledging it’d be very hard to objectively refute what MFMP (and many others) have compellingly rehashed over and over (and over and over) again — block out what he did through 2005 and [sigh] he’s Le Miserable.
It’s easy to get lost in sentimentalism (I’m guilty of it A LOT) and want to focus on the big, admittedly blinding picture because, if you do, it’s not an open and shut case, and it’s easy to get worked up about the people who think it is. I don’t think anybody is ever discounting what Joe has done for this organization; they’re simply at an end with him based on what he’s done (or lack thereof) for the past 6 years (and likely another 2-3 years).
It’s easy to look at the GM Scoreboard (not updated with the Dallas ‘ship and wrong about Dumars’ conf. titles) and say, “well, only 5 active GMs have built a championship team — Joe is one of them — and only two GMs have built more conference champions than Joe.” That argument is fine for a total assessment when it’s all said and done (and it’ll be my go-to), but it’s irrelevant to now and to why people are expressing “all this hate.”
Yep well said Packey
And you just said something key here..
“I don’t have a strong opinion either way. At this point, I wouldn’t be pissed or surprised if he was fired”
That’s my issue. If you don’t like Dumars because you want to win all the time fine. But to clearly want him to fail,is what really gets to me. I know this blog is not filled with Dumars hate thanks to Packey,and a few others.
“I don’t think anybody is ever discounting what Joe has done for this organization”
I think so Packey. I have seen the hate for Matt Millen in the past,and this is pretty uch the same kind of hate I am witnessing here. I guess that’s what bugs me the most.
But to clearly want him to fail,is what really gets to me.
Dude, only one person here has said that.
Not true Mike Sir
When Frank was hired someone said Gores won Dumars failed like they were competing or something..Like wtf is that? lol
The fat jokes,like he is some slob who ran this team into the ground from the beginning. Just the overall disrespect for someone who brought our city countless playoff wins and 3 championships both as a player and as a GM. An historic NBA gm disrespected,by cats that don’t even seem to know the game..They just want to socialize with negative shit.
Not true Mike Sir When Frank was hired someone said Gores won Dumars failed like they were competing or something..Like wtf is that? lol
How does that equate to saying they want him to fail? Nice stretch, Roco.
The fat jokes,like he is some slob
If the team was winning then
That wouldn’t even be an issue Mike.
What is this I don’t even? I am completely lost! I’m saying only one dude here has said that he wants to see Dumars fail, and I don’t even know where the shit your brain is going.
I'm sorry?
Lets try to keep it clean Mike my man. No need to get flustered.
Also can I add
That there was another who agreed with him wanting Dumars to fail,along with the fact that everytime I post you have to chime in,yet you said nothing.. You did say that 75% of the members here feel the same way.
to be fair
sorta. I said I wanted dumars to fail by succeeding at getting us a top 3 pick, which is hardly failure given our current situation. dumars all but destroyed whatever short-term ability this team had at success this offseason. were in it for the long haul now. I could sit here and hope that dumars will come out of this hole in a few years and not have compounded even further on his mistakes to the point that the shining light we have in the summer of 14 when half our salary comes off the books is just a dream because he’s just given daye a $10 mil/yr contract or some stupid shit like that. To be clear I don’t want dumars to get fired, but he damn sure deserves to. I just don’t trust him to do the right thing for the future good of this franchise any longer. In a sense his failure is our victory because of the situation this team is in our only hope is through the draft. and at no point have I ever said I wanted knight to fail, just that I thought he would.
by mcflies on Dec 29, 2011 9:27 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Thats all you can do.
Not mad at ya Shin,just try to post a NEW pic next time k?
Nah
You’ll earn a new picture when you come with a new Dumars defense. “Hez important and you cant be mean to em!” is old and worn out enough to earn the old and worn out pictures.
by Shinons* on Dec 29, 2011 6:02 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Spoken like a true walking case study in logical fallacies
Going ad hominem doesn’t make you any less wrong.
Shinons
Go post some more pics dude. That’s where u shine.. Play to your strengths.
But to clearly want him to fail,is what really gets to me.
It gets to me, too. In Skylar’s words, I “vehemently disagree” with anyone who wants to see someone (on our favorite team no less) to fail just so they can throw themselves a party and tell everyone, “I told you so.” To each his own, though, and I don’t think there are many here, if any, like that. Even if there are, everyone posits with the same thing in mind: the Pistons being the best. Others may just have a different opinion on how that has to be achieved if it’s not getting done thinking otherwise.
I guess you are right Packey
To each his own. I’m trying to deal with it. lol
I wanted to add for you Roco. I do appreciate your defending Joe. Because, you’re right, he’s done so much for the Pistons throughout his career. He’s bled Red, White, and Royal Blue. He even bled Teal and it is underappreciated that he decided that that was a terrible color to fucking bleed.
But to the point. It’s probably best for Gores to give the reigns to someone new. Let Dumars move on from the GM gig and let us get back to appreciating everything he’s done for us. Much like with Rip. It’s simply better to move on rather than grinding such greatness into the miserable ground.
To experience the consequences of my own choices. This is why I live
…. and just because, what with the way this entire board has been going these past couple weeks, I better clarify that when I say “Gores needs to give the reigns to someone new”, I’m not saying fire him (Grrr), I’m saying “Open the door and let us all feel the fresh spring breeze wash over us as Dumars steps out into the warm sunlight.” (smiley faces and ponys covered in butterflys)
But first, let us all enjoy the winter winds up our collective arses.
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Wow we suck
Our back court just lit up the floor in a way not seen in a bit. And we got HANDLED. I didnt understand it until i saw we got out rebounded 40-26. Unacceptable. We will win 0 games being out rebounded that way.
oh and go Ben Gordon.
woo 0 wins!
and knowing our luck we’d still get the 4th overall pick
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Oh no
A seven-game winning streak to end the season will all but guarantee we’ll be picking in the 7-10 slot.
if knight turns out to be a star
that late win streak might have ironically put us in a better position for the future
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
kinda crazy that Blake is blowing up
and the Clips are still down by 25
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 10:58 PM EST reply actions
Clips down 25, Jazz down 24 to the Nuggets, and the Suns 30 down to the 76ers. What in the world is going on out in the West tonight?
I don't think the Jazz are going to be good this year
But in 3 seasons or so they’ll be contending again
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 11:05 PM EST up reply actions
Gotta love the media
Knight goes ballistic and the headline is “Irving bounces back, helps Cavs down Pistons”
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by bearded thundar on Dec 28, 2011 11:12 PM EST reply actions
Haha, puhleeze.
Knight was owning Irving when they were guarding each other. It was the Varejao and Samuels show inside the paint that determined the outcome of this game.
The Cavs destroyed us.
I think it’s reasonable they’d mention the Cavs destroying us and the #1 overall pick.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
that's bad reporting to not mention Knight's big night
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Dec 29, 2011 10:24 AM EST up reply actions
I just needed to post this somewhere:
Will argue against trading #45 until I am blue in the face and your eyes and ears are bleeding.
I enjoyed it. No lobs in the Alamo City. (seriously. they didn’t even get to try one)
Also, I can’t tell if our defense is back or if everyone is just sloppy from lack of training camp, but I’m starting to get my hopes up. :D
Also, yall played the Cavs AGAIN?!?
Will argue against trading #45 until I am blue in the face and your eyes and ears are bleeding.
by SpursfanSteve on Dec 29, 2011 1:11 AM EST up reply actions
i kinda hate that jersey on him
also, go spurs – my alternate team during the current pistons suckitude era
Looks like the summer of 2005 all over again...
… except for the “Los Angeles” script in front of Chauncey’s jersey.
I missed the game in order to watch IU get stomped by MSU
But wow, Knight musta looked like a young Jason Terry tonight, eh?
painful to watch
just saw this game on nba league pass and yeah it was painful. But Knight looks promising though.
Side Note
I love that Boston is the only team in the Eastern Conference that is behind Detroit in the standings right now. It’s just… just beautiful…
You Still Need To Explain To Me
…the Perk for Jeff Green trade. Assuming Green is healthy, a horrible, horrible trade. I have no clue what Ainge was thinking on that one. Perk is a guy who would fit in very well here.
This is DBB, and this is what we do.
by V. on Dec 29, 2011 4:58 PM EST up reply actions
I love Kendrick Perkins
a little less when he has his pouty face going on, but I think he’s very good at what he does (when healthy)
WWGMD?
Thanks JoD
By the power of Grayskull... I have the power!
by He-Man on Dec 29, 2011 2:24 AM EST reply actions 8 recs
“Did you get all those chitlins on the grill above the flame? And the barbecue sauce? You salted them, right? Okay, good.”
by Mike Payne on Dec 29, 2011 2:29 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Some men just want to watch the world burn
some men want to rec awesome photoshops
by Packey on Dec 29, 2011 2:41 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
JoD speaking on resigning Stuckey instead of giving Knight the helm
“Because Knight is the guard Detroit deserves, but not the one it needs right now.”
By the power of Grayskull... I have the power!
Just give it time..
They will figure this out. But wait..If the team gets back to glory where will the cry babys go to complain? Whaaa whaaaa!!
We have reason to complain, Roco. Did you see the score last night? Vs. Cleveland? Did you see this roster? When Dumars’ mistakes get fixed, we won’t have reason to complain.
I know
And I like how you said when..Not If,or he won’t. Or that you hope he fails,that kinda shit. Yes you do have a reason to complain,we all do. But some people will try to find the negative about everything,and where will they go when things get right?
I hope you weren't suggesting I was complaining
I was just poorly attempting to add JoD into the Dark Knight lexicon with a bitchin’ misquote! “You either die a hero or you live long enough to see JoD outgrow his dress shirt and welcome.”
By the power of Grayskull... I have the power!
by He-Man on Dec 29, 2011 11:03 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Wasn't calling anyone out
Directly..I don’t want any trouble lol. Just some of the negatives get under my skin a bit. Losing is bad enough,but all the talk about Knight sucking before they even gave him a chance. The hoping that Joe fails talk,just gets to me sometimes. I try to let it go BUT I CAN’T DAMNIT!! lol
Hey Roco...
If you think this is bad, check out local sports talk radio sometimes, it doesn’t have to be Detroit. Some fans will be, ummm, fans.
This is DBB, and this is what we do.
by V. on Dec 29, 2011 5:00 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah I hear ya there
I listen to 97.1 now that I’m an old man,the that Mike Valenti hates everyone lol. Except for Suh
My thoughts on the game...
Early Favorite for most controversial poster: Gulks – Not because he’s actually controversial but mainly because in 2 games, it seems more posts have been about his opinion than about the game itself.
On Knight: He looked good…like spooky good. That said, Gordon/Knight played very solid. Unfortunately our frontcourt didn’t show up. It seems that the only chance we have of winning is if literally everyone on this team plays at the top of their game and that’s quite the change from back in our heyday when we could have 2 of our 4 have off-nights but still manage a victory.
On Roco’s defense of JoD: Pretty much everything has already been said, but my biggest issue with defending JoD with the argument of “he’s obviously trying to do something about it” is treating him as if he didn’t create all the problems this team has himself. Maybe if JoD had stepped into some other GM’s mess and was struggling to clean it up it’d be one thing, but he’s not. He’s shat in his own house, and now we’re defending him because he can’t figure out how to get the stains out after leaving it on the carpet for weeks? Seems like that’s giving him too much credit. The worst part in all this is if you really listen to Joe Dumars talk about the past 2 years, you’d think that he had NOTHING to do with all the problems this team has with its roster.
Lastly, if this kind of losing goes on for much longer, I’ll be interested to see how Lawrence Frank responds specifically. Its one thing if we have roster problems. Its another thing entirely if we have roster problems and a coach that ends up being far weaker than expected. Most of us were Laimbeer fans and were willing to give Frank a shot, but God as my witness, I’ll want to blow my brains out if Frank ends up being as weak of a coach as Kuester.
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by The Boourns on Dec 29, 2011 8:55 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Re: Roco's defense of Jod
Isn’t worthy of the merit it’s received in this thread. He’s free to his opinion, regardless of how weak, stale, and poorly articulated it is. However, insulting those of a contrary position and misrepresenting opposing viewpoints, ain’t nothing productive going to come from that.
The
vs.
debate has great potential, but will just continue to be tedious if conducted with ad hominem and straw man arguments.
thanks be to shiny onions
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by heWizard on Dec 31, 2011 5:12 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
And on the Seventh Day, God created Onions more Shiny than ever before, and it was good.
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