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As to what teams should be making a push for Stuckey: he'd be great in Dallas, Toronto, New York, Utah, L.A. (both teams) or Orlando. Most of those teams have just the mid-level to play with, creating an artificial cap on the types of offers Stuck could get. Regardless, assuming he and the Pistons don't find common ground quickly, it should be an interesting free agent period for the guard.

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this should prevent Dumars from offering Stuckey any more than slightly above the MLE, right? More than likely he’ll simply match the offer sheet of a MLE-sized deal ($5 million/year for 4 years). I feel like I could live with that.

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by heWizard on Dec 7, 2011 2:04 AM EST reply actions  

I feel like I could live with that.

Absolutely, in a heartbeat. Especially if Stuckey has a really solid year— on an MLE-level contract, he could be one of the best trade assets next summer. If not, he’s still a solid sixth man and he’d be paid like one.

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by Mike Payne on Dec 7, 2011 2:36 AM EST up reply actions  

By "MLE-sized deal" you mean "max contract" right?

Cause, you know, that would make a lot more sense and stuff.

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by bugman222 on Dec 7, 2011 8:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Have you ever considered a career in professional basketball team management? Your acumen is notably pungent.

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by heWizard on Dec 7, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

here we go a combo-guarding....

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by The Boourns on Dec 7, 2011 11:07 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't get the feel there's a good market for him.

The only way somebody would overpay for him is if they believed Dumars would match and so, the driving force would be getting the Pistons to overpay to keep him. But with new management and the Knight draft, I would be very careful, if I were another GM, of doing so.

Stuckey is not a superstar, and the Pistons don’t need him. They may want to keep him, but they don’t need him.

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by Kriz on Dec 7, 2011 10:31 AM EST reply actions  

I don’t see anyone putting a high offer out there for Stuckey. Maybe in prior years where Bill D. gave pretty much free reign to Dumars for player management. But in the Gores era, I half expect someone from Platinum to review every offer Dumars and co. make.

If we get Stuckey for a 4 year/$20m deal, I’ll be happy. If he ends up surprising all of us we’ll have a SG on a super cheap contract. If he doesn’t, he’s at least paid fairly for a super sub/sixth man role.

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by The Boourns on Dec 7, 2011 11:50 AM EST up reply actions  

a super sub/sixth man role.

Fixed.

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by heWizard on Dec 7, 2011 12:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I thought we already made a qualifying offer?

Oh yeah! Here it is!

I think he would do TERRIBLE in Toronto or Orlando, btw. Their centers live under the basket and their pfs don’t really stretch the floor (er, the other way around in Toronto). Other teams are already doubling on Dwight and now that they’re not worried about Stuck taking the jumper it looks like a lose-lose for all. He would be terrible for Toronto and that’s exactly why they should sign him. They LOVE terrible.

by JoeDip on Dec 7, 2011 11:05 AM EST reply actions  

You never know though...Rodney might start hitting more consistently from 15-20 ft if people were sagging off him

but I wouldn’t sign him based on that expectation.

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by The Boourns on Dec 7, 2011 11:10 AM EST up reply actions  

Glenn Davis might be our starting center next year!

Oh wait.

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by heWizard on Dec 7, 2011 12:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I have to disagree

People sagged off on him for exactly that reason this past season. They challenged him to shoot and when he did he posted eFG% of .313 (ouch). He needs a clear lane with two shooting bigs who have decent mid range elbow and baseline jumpers or killer post moves. I could see him doing well somewhere like San Antonio. I guess I could see New York if Amare stays out of the paint, but I don’t think he fits in Dantoni’s system.

by JoeDip on Dec 8, 2011 1:25 AM EST up reply actions  

313

Represent.

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by FMFDOC8404 on Dec 8, 2011 1:53 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

lol

Honestly, I didn’t even notice. He can stay. But he has to move out to Auburn Hills and shoot .586

by JoeDip on Dec 8, 2011 8:35 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I'd rather he drove in from A2 and shot .734

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by The Boourns on Dec 8, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

My guess is he signs the qualifying offer and becomes a UFA next summer, after the craziness of this year begins to settle. He’ll have one more chance to play for a contract, which I expect he’ll take (unless someone offers him something crazy this year).

Ultimately, I think this is the best thing for both parties. If he flops, we let him walk in a year. If he excels, well, we’ll still have a shot to retain him without any long-term commitment this year.

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by brgulker on Dec 7, 2011 12:31 PM EST reply actions  

We’re not exactly good at retaining talent. It feels like we always go into contracts blind. If the players end up living up to the short term deals we sign them to then they are soon lured away, or traded, or something else really stupid.

by JoeDip on Dec 8, 2011 1:30 AM EST up reply actions  

Let him walk.

I don’t want him back. I have absolutely no loyalties to anyone on this team anymore. I’d much rather see Brandon Knight get consistent, starter’s minutes if the Pistons are only going to win 20-30 games again this season.

by TDP on Dec 7, 2011 6:56 PM EST reply actions  

Oops, 66-game season.

*16-24 wins, season-adjusted.

by TDP on Dec 7, 2011 6:57 PM EST up reply actions  

For a second there

I thought we were going to sneak into the 8 seed.

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by heWizard on Dec 7, 2011 7:10 PM EST up reply actions  

No chance of that!

by -PS- on Dec 7, 2011 7:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Stuckey for Billups

I’ve said this before, but I think NY would be willing to do this to get younger at the PG position. If we can dump a lousy contract as well, all the better.

by Kevin Sawyer on Dec 7, 2011 7:25 PM EST reply actions  

yeah not to mention the fact that Melo/Amare don't need a PG to pass them the ball.

Maybe Amare a wee bit, but not really.

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by The Boourns on Dec 7, 2011 7:55 PM EST up reply actions  

Aside from nostalgic value

what does that trade truly accomplish?

by TDP on Dec 7, 2011 9:02 PM EST up reply actions  

I wouldn't mind seeing

Billups/Knight
Hamilton/Stuckey
SF/Daye
Jerebko/CV
Monroe/Wallace

Oddly enough, thats a reasonably well-balanced team aside from the SF/Daye situation.

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by The Boourns on Dec 7, 2011 11:09 PM EST up reply actions  

But

Where does Ben gordon fit in that scenario?

by blubomber17 on Dec 8, 2011 12:24 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Amnesty beeeeyotch.

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by The Boourns on Dec 8, 2011 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

With the Knicks.

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by brgulker on Dec 8, 2011 11:53 AM EST up reply actions  


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