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At first glance, it does appear rather bleak. Cousins is currently posting one of the least efficient seasons in the history of 20-year-olds in the NBA. His PER has been artificially held afloat by his high shots per minute figures and rebounding, but there’s really no way around the fact that Cousins has been one of the worst players in basketball this season....Ultimately though, such criticisms miss the bigger picture.

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Ultimately though, such criticisms miss the bigger picture.

That he’s the most likely current NBA player to go Latrell Sprewell and choke a coach? That he could easily eat his way off the NBA team in the off-season or during the lockout next year?

What bigger picture are we talking about here?

by Big Z in Orlando on Mar 21, 2011 5:24 PM EDT reply actions  

According to the author, the bigger picture is that Cousins is young with a high ceiling. Well OK then.

by -PS- on Mar 21, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

No deal! The MOOSE is ours!

by -PS- on Mar 21, 2011 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

All these stat guys have some crazy views

Curry better then Rose, Kobe and Melo being just above average, Gasol top 5 etc…

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Mar 21, 2011 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Curry is WAY better than Rose!

Or at least was. Back in the day no one was better than Michael Curry!

/can’t keep a straight face

"You’d be surprised what you can accomplish if you’re not concerned with making sense!"- PS

by bugman222 on Mar 22, 2011 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Melo IS just above-average

He’s a one-on-one volume scorer who kills ball movement and has little to no interest in playing defense (a la Iverson). If Melo was anywhere NEAR as good as people think he is, the Nuggets wouldn’t be a better team without him, and NY wouldn’t be as mediocre as they are.

How's that for a slice of fried gold?

by Thom not Tom Gores on Mar 22, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

rec'd

for bitch

F***KING TAYSHAUN ISOLATION.

by Mike Payne on Mar 22, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't catch that

You think Melo is a what?

This team is not worthy of my fanhood.

by Kriz on Mar 22, 2011 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

My wife told me about a friend

who rode up an elevator with Melo. It was just her, her brother, and Melo in the elevator, and Melo stood with his nose in the corner facing away from them and his head toward the floor so that no one could talk to him.

Now is that something a little bitch would do?

It's gonna take a lot of fireworks to clean this place up.

by Shinons on Mar 23, 2011 1:00 AM EDT up reply actions  

I wish I had video of that

I’d watch it on repeat.

F***KING TAYSHAUN ISOLATION.

by Mike Payne on Mar 23, 2011 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe he was on a timeout

This team is not worthy of my fanhood.

by Kriz on Mar 23, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actuallly, I Prefer "Knucklehead"

Terry Foster ripped him pretty good today in the News.

Like I’ve said a zillion times, Melo is this generation’s AI. Like AI, Melo is too selfish and not talented enough (especially in comparison to AI) to ever be able to play for a ring.

The NY media must be continually blowing themselves over and over again over the trade. Yes, they need time to play together, and CB will help them, but Melo and Amare aren’t exactly what you call complimentary players.

Personally, it’s just a matter of time before things blow up between Melo and Amare; compared to Miami where there’s merely a decent chance of the same happening between LeBron and Wade (though Bosh may go first).

Just Vpinion

by V. on Mar 26, 2011 6:40 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hes a dynamic scorer

And a very good rebounder, not just above average but a top 10 SF. But hes not a superstar like most think

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Mar 22, 2011 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's a dynamic little bitch is what he is.

And he’s not a particularly good rebounder either for his position. Looking at per 36 numbers, it took me about 5 minutes to find numerous SFs with significantly better rebounding numbers including Kevin Durant who I’d argue is an even more dynamic scorer than Melo:

Career per 36 Rebounding:
Melo – 4.3
Tayshaun – 5.1
Andre – 5.5
Lebron – 6.2
Caron Butler – 5.9
AK47 – 6.6
Kevin Durant – 6.0

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Mar 23, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Career numbers?

Melo is beasting on the boards this year

‎"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon

"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ

by dubzfan on Mar 24, 2011 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

6.0 per 36 is not beasting.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Mar 24, 2011 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's not a dynamic scorer at all

He just shoots a lot, and he’s just good enough to make those shots at a below average rate for his position.

Melo is fool’s gold.

by brgulker on Mar 24, 2011 9:53 AM EDT up reply actions  

Best post of the day.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Mar 23, 2011 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

If Melo and Amare were significantly above average, their team would be significantly above average. The proof is in the pudding.

by brgulker on Mar 24, 2011 9:44 AM EDT up reply actions  

Also, it behooves me to mention that NY has some nice rotation pieces, like Fields and Billups, when contrasted with a team like Minny (should someone get the urge to call me out for lauding Love while criticizing his teammates).

by brgulker on Mar 24, 2011 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

So I posted in that thread because someone tried to state that there wasn't anyone else in the draft not named John Wall that a team would want over Cousins...

Monroe wasn’t included in the original data set because he didn’t have 500 field goals (he will by the end of the season based on his current 451, with 6.6 per game and 12 games left) but I brought up that Monroe would be up and to the left or the exact opposite of DeMarcus Cousins as far as offensive rating and usage goes. The author was nice enough to re-do the chart with Moose included and also mentioned that he plans on doing a piece specifically on Monroe. Here’s the chart in case anyone is interested:

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Mar 23, 2011 2:28 PM EDT reply actions  

The numbers next to the player's heads are win totals for the year.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Mar 23, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

So wait…..

Greg Monroe adds more wins than Kevin Love. FUCK YEAH KIDS.

by Biz Markie Moon on Mar 23, 2011 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

So basically Greg Monroe is the most efficient 20 year-old ever

by tads on Mar 23, 2011 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

correct.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Mar 23, 2011 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

correct

F***KING TAYSHAUN ISOLATION.

by Mike Payne on Mar 23, 2011 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

correct.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Mar 23, 2011 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

So you mean

JoD drafted the most efficient 20 year old ever?

by Danny D on Mar 23, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe D didn't draft Monroe. Monroe drafted JoD.

Really though, Monroe was the BPA. It wasn’t exactly a hard decision on JoD’s part. But yes, since JoD is “in charge” of the Pistons, he gets credit for calling Greg’s name.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Mar 23, 2011 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's so beautiful

This team is not worthy of my fanhood.

by Kriz on Mar 23, 2011 7:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Further proof that the Moose is loose.

by garrettelliott on Mar 23, 2011 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

The usage-efficiency discussion is a central one to basketball analytics; put extremely simply, efficiency drops off as usage increases for the average player.

Sigh. While this is true for some players, such as Ariza, this isn’t as true as the author makes it out to be. Yes, you can find individuals who fit this theory, but you can find more examples of players who do not (how about the Nuggets without Melo? Take away their highest usage player, and the team starts scoring more efficiently).

But what irks me about this generally, is that he feels no need to offer any proof of what is a very significant point in his argument.

/frustrated

by brgulker on Mar 24, 2011 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

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