Should Austin Daye start for the Pistons?
by Matt Watson on May 9, 2011 6:41 AM EDT
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Pretend for a moment that Tayshaun Prince walks as a free agent. (I'm not convinced Joe Dumars wants him gone, but who knows? Maybe the impending rebuild in Los Angeles will convince Prince to sign with his hometown Lakers.) With Prince out of the picture, who should start at small forward?
At the moment, it's a moot question: Austin Daye is the only small forward under contract for next season. (Jonas Jerebko, technically a restricted free agent, could be in the mix if when he re-signs, but he was more productive at the four as a rookie, and will likely continue to be so after bulking up over the past 12 months.)
Is Daye ready to assume a starting load? He started 16 games this past season with respectable results: 11.4 points per game (vs. 6.3 per off the bench) to go with 4.4 boards (3.6) and .462 three-point shooting (.375).
On the surface this is encouraging, but it's worth noting he played as many as 30 minutes a game only six times all season. In his 16 starts, he averaged just 25.9 minutes, meaning he still spent nearly half the game on the bench. Does Daye have the stamina to play 30-32 minutes over 82 games? Only time will tell, but the fact that he's struggled to gain any weight after two years working with an NBA training staff has me concerned.
From Perry Farrell of the Detroit Free Press:
"He was probably up to 215-pounds by the start of the season," [Arnie] Kander said of the forward who's in line to replace Tayshaun Prince at small forward if the veteran free agent leaves.
"By the end of the year he had probably lost close to 10 pounds. ... He'll gain weight during the summer, guaranteed, every year. The problem is once you start to run during an NBA season, you're going to lose at least 10 of that during a season just because of the nature of the schedule. You're constantly running, not much recovery and all of that.
"After two years of an NBA life, the body starts to adapt and it starts to learn it has to push through different levels of soreness. He has to be able to eat when the body is extremely exhausted and tired. You have to push fluids when you can't put anymore in your system. It's as much a mental adaption as it is a physical one."
[...] "He's a very skilled athlete," said Kander. "I thought he did a nice job with his weight early on and then he hit that wall. He had a good rookie season, but it's not like he's playing 30 minutes a night. Then you get used to the whole thing of one game you play, one game you don't play.
"To stay mentally strong and keep your body firing at a high level, it is a process. You can learn the X's and O's of training your body and eating properly. To do that for 82 games is another challenge."
(Another random note from the article: Daye has reportedly grown a half-inch since being drafted. As Dan Feldman points out, this means Daye now stands just a shade under 7-foot in shoes.)
It'd be silly to write Daye off simply because of his frame. Hell, the man he's replacing (in this hypothetical, of course) has a similar build and didn't miss his first game due to injury until his eighth season. But as much as I'd like to give Daye every chance to win the job -- his ability to stretch the floor with efficiency (ahem) gives the team a much-needed dimension -- I can't help but wonder if he's better suited off the bench. What say you?
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Austin must start.
Even if Tay is still on the team.
I'm off to point the pink pistol at the porcelain firing range.
Either Daye or Jerebko
I’m hoping Daye. He has some real red flags to him beyond his frame – fouls too much, needs to put in more effort defensively, and for some reason his 2 point shooting percentage dropped from 54% last year to 41% this year. If he wins the starting job, presumably that means he would have ironed some of those things out.
Also, I’m still not convinced Jonas should be a 4. Daye’s 82games numbers showed him also to have played better at power forward, but I don’t think anyone here would make the case that should be his future position. I’d rather see small forward as both of their permanent homes, with Daye having the ability to slide up or Jonas sliding down for a stretch as needed.
Also, I’m still not convinced Jonas should be a 4.
Neither am I. He’s a solid 3 on defense, but quite below-average when defending 4s. He plays like a 4 on offense, but still doesn’t have the tools to hold down the 3 on offense.
/Stuckey’d
Jai Alai's got the bomb hops, drinkin Belgian styles from Cooperstown to Comstock.
well he played liked a 4 on offense his rookie season...
the way he looked (and yeah competition bla bla bla) last summer playing for the Swedish national team definitely had the look of a 3 or a Lamar Odom kind of 4 (good handles, good shooting, can slash to the hoop, etc.)
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
FIBA Europe : Bing :: NBA : Google
Jai Alai's got the bomb hops, drinkin Belgian styles from Cooperstown to Comstock.
by Mike Payne on May 9, 2011 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Difference here being that the NBA steals all of FIBA Europe’s best players, whereas Bing steals Google’s best search results.
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by heWizard on May 9, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Jai Alai's got the bomb hops, drinkin Belgian styles from Cooperstown to Comstock.
by Mike Payne on May 9, 2011 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
You guys are just jealous that you go to google.com and see a boring white background
while I’m over at Bing being visually stimulated by epic images. Yeah thats right…I’m getting stimulated…my nipples are actually erect right now.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
in the time it takes your image to load
I’m at my destination.
Jai Alai's got the bomb hops, drinkin Belgian styles from Cooperstown to Comstock.
not quite...but as someone who has confirmed that they have only used bing sporadically
I wouldn’t expect you to know or understand it. For example, in the time it takes for you to click on a video in google video search, watch it, realize its not the right video, back-up in your browser, and select the next video, I’ve previewed endless videos through Bing’s video preview feature.
Or in the time it takes you to select each subsequent page of images, I simply continue to scroll down and more images are loaded. Or in the time it takes you to go to kayak.com or any other travel site to research prices, I’ve already concluded that I should wait for a few weeks before purchasing from Bing’s fare prediction tool.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I'm At A Vietnamese Coffee Shop In Little Saigon, Orange County Ca....
and I can tell you all about being visually stimulated by epic images :).
Just Vpinion
by V. on May 9, 2011 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Deserves to be rec'd twice by everyone...if double rec'ing were possible
And depending on how you define “Double-Rec’ing”, Jenna Jameson might say it IS possible.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
V
Ive heard of those coffee shops, they are all the rage, i was wondering if its like the Vietnamese “massage parlors” Im in Westminster often and always wanted to check one out but didn’t feel like getting arrested for being a John, being the dumb ass who has no idea whats really going on.
BTW PHO rules! (reason for me in Little Saigon so much)
daye has zero defense and no potential to develop any. we should trade him now, while he has value. it’s gonna take 3 more years before he’s ready to play a full game (and even then I doubt he’ll play defense he’s no Prince for sure) and then he’ll be a free agent, so what’s the point.
Starting Daye would be a massive mistake, he can’t play defense and no potential to. For the money he’s gonna cost the best move would be to trade him now.
by Shinons* on May 9, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Tayshaun hasn't been a good defender since 2007-2008
He’s had D-Ratings of 110, 113, and 115 over the past 3 seasons. Daye in comparison, has had a D-Rating of 110 in both seasons of his career. Sure, much smaller sample size for Daye, but its not like he’s nearly the defensive liability that you’d make him out to be in comparison to Tay.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
BIYOMBO-MOOSE-JEREBKO FRONTCOURT. BRING IT TO ME.
by -PS- on May 9, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yes please.
Not even a backcourt of Stuckey/Gordon could screw that up.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Those are sound arguments! So it shall be. DO IT JOD!
by garrettelliott on May 9, 2011 2:43 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
naah
I’m looking for us to be a bigger team next year by drafting
Biyombo/Kanter in round 1
Keith Benson/Jordan Williams… then Darius Morris/Deandre Liggins/Isaiah Thomas with our two 2nd round picks.
If our 1st rounder is strong enough to get in the rotation, I think Jerebko is quick enough defensively to be a a good 3… which makes us a much bigger and stronger team defensively.
I’d put Daye at the backup 2 behind Gordon… until his age puts on more weight, and his experience ripens his game a little bit, i think he’ll be a starting caliber guard right on time for our next deep playoff run. I wouldn’t rush it though
My Ideal lineup 2012:
Stuckey/Bynum/Morris
Gordon/Daye/Terrico
Prince/Jerebko/Villanueva
Monroe/JordanWilliams
Biyombo/Dalembert/Wilcox
where are we getting the cap space to sign the following free agents in your list?
stuckey
prince
jerebko
dalembert
wilcox
Even the most conservative estimates would put that group at $21M/yr. It’s likely they’ll collectively earn closer to $27M next season.
Jai Alai's got the bomb hops, drinkin Belgian styles from Cooperstown to Comstock.
well in that case
Stuckey/Bynum/Morris
Gordon/Daye/Terrico
Prince/Jerebko
Monroe/Villanueva
Biyombo/Jordan Williams
if we don’t have any more cash after that I’ll just have to walk on and play for a meager 150K… i’ll make the sacrifice, i’m a team player.
The only way we’ll have enough money to sign anyone above the MLE is if:
1) We don’t retain Prince
2) JoD doesn’t blow his wad on Stuckey
Only one of those two things NOT happening is probably, IMHE.
Can't we go above the salary cap to re-sign our own players though?
So if JoD waited on Stuckey and signed someone else, then we could go over by retaining Stuckey? Or is that not the case with restricted FA? And mind you I’m not saying we should do this, just that I thought it was an option.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
There are cap holds for Stuckey and Prince, though, which would put us over the cap unless we renounced them.
oh okay...so our only shot would be to renounce rights, and then attempt to re-sign?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Once we give up his rights, we can’t go over the cap to re-sign. This summer underscores just how screwed this team’s cap scenario is.
Once we retain Stuckey and Jerebko, we’ll have around the MLE left. And that’s assuming we renounounce Prince and don’t make an effort to retain and or S&T him.
by brgulker on May 11, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rerec'd
for renounounce
Jai Alai's got the bomb hops, drinkin Belgian styles from Cooperstown to Comstock.
by Mike Payne on May 11, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
that's my kind of wizwordry
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
I was gonna say that but I leaped at the chance to invent a word instead
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Won't we also have the bi-annual exception...assuming that still exists since I think we last used it to sign Big Ben two summers ago?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on May 11, 2011 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Aren’t we all given a bi exception for Jonas?
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 11, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
*ahem* ... ayes...
annually!
/Amadeus laugh
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
by Skylar on May 11, 2011 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
SpursFanSteve
To state the obvious, you are a terrific addition to the DBB community.
by Toledo Joe on May 12, 2011 8:39 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Assuming the CBA stays the same
This summer, we’ll have right around the MLE (maybe slightly more depending on how things play out with Stuckey), and if we’re over the cap or under it by less than the MLE, we’ll also have the bi-annual. Note that you cannot combine the two exceptions.
In short, we don’t have enough to add anything more than a backup with that kind of money, and the last thing we need is another backup.
Maybe instead of paying starter money to backups, DET could pay backup money to starters.
by -PS- on May 12, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What do you think this is -PS-? Communist Russia?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
You mean like Ben Wallace on the bi-annual exception, TMac at the vet minimum, Chris Wilcox at $4 million per, and Greg Monroe on a rookie scale contract?
by brgulker on May 13, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
When you put it that way…
JOD=EXECUTIVE OF THE YEAR!
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 13, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Austin Daye in my Crystal Ball
I believe that if Austin Daye can last 82 games while playing minutes, Greg and Austin will be two key parts to the rebuilding of this Piston Engine. He has already shown with his short minutes on the court that he can put up points and grab rebounds. Daye needs to get bigger and improve his defense, but that comes with time. He is in the NBA so he has some of the best trainers on the planet. If he works hard and hits the gym he can put on some size, but look at Prince he is not this huge guy but he still in A day could tangle with the best. I think that Daye has all the potential to be a top scorer for the Pistons if not one of the best scores in the League. I know some think this is a ludicrous idea, but with his size and shooting ability the other pieces of the puzzle will fall in time. Moving forward you have in the starting line up
1. Brandon Knight if not then Kemba
2. BG but hopefully someone in the FA this summer
3. Austin Daye
4. Greg Monroe will either play the 4 or 5
5. Some Center we draft maybe Keith Benson
I would love to see the Pistons change out old parts from this engine like Prince, and Rip. Also take out faulty parts like Charley V, so we can get back to being a NBA Championship contender. Only time will tell, and if Joe Dumars as GM this Engine will never recover.
by PistonsFanboyd11 on May 9, 2011 10:32 AM EDT reply actions
In this scenerio...
If we draft Knight…
1-Brandon Knight (pure PG)
2-Rodney Stuckey (more corfortable at SG then PG)
3-Austin Daye (as Tay finds a new home)
4-Jonas Jerebko (as we never have a true 7 ft C)
5-Greg Monroe (as above, otherwise JJ and GM each move down)
It's pretty hard to answer this question
With so many question marks about the rest of the lineup, as well as about Daye.
Let’s assume Daye is best at SF. If Tay stays, contra Laughton, I can’t see starting Daye over him. Even if Tay is gone, I think the jury is still out on whether Jonas is better at the 4 or the 3 —and if it’s the latter, I wouldn’t start Daye over Jonas.
I hope we aren’t considering Daye as a starting 4, because (i) he’s too thin / not all that great at rebounding or defense, and (ii) in my ideal world, Monroe is our 4 and Wilcox or Bismack or somebody else the normal size of a 5 plays 5. But even if you disagree with all that, Jonas may be better at the 4.
What about Daye as a 2? I will note again the potential for a “Daye and Knight” backcourt if we draft Knight, but beyond that it just increases the clusterf**k at guard. I know we all hope that we fix the redundancy at SG and move either Rip or BG, but with their contracts that won’t be easy. And even if one of them goes, I don’t think Daye would start at 2 ahead of whoever stays.
So I guess, absent some big trades involving us shedding several players, I say no.
by Toledo Joe on May 9, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for contra
So far we got Cabal and Contra inside of a week. WORD to the NERDS
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
by Skylar on May 9, 2011 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Here's more fuel to your fire
Capcom and Konami were/are so fucking major
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
DOUBLE DRIBBLE!?
Oh, memories. There has been no greater basketball game before or since.
This signature is false.
I very much liked the various iterations of NBA JAM and the EA Bulls vs Lakers/Lakers vs Celtics/Bulls vs Blazers games from that era were incredible
NBA Street Vol. 2 really had me hooked too.
We’ve had this discussion before on here, right Garrett?
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
My pronouncement of its greatness
Is due almost completely to nostalgia and not an sense of objective quality.
Also, those players seem to be clad in brightly colored leotards.
This signature is false.
The socks aren't helping either.
I was game for another video game discussion though for sure
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Like the Flint Tropics, they're responsible for half-time shows...
in this case, they were doing a thrilling rendition of FlashDance.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Double Dribble wasn't even the best basketball game on Nintendo...
Arch Rivals was far and away the better basketball game…unless you’re looking for pure simulation…
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Putt Putt had Archrivals, and also Jerry Glanville's pigskin footbrawl
(Acclaim)
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
I think you missed the part where I said that was based completely on nostalgia. In fact, I didn’t even play any other basketball game on the NES. Pretty sure my allowance was like $1 a week back then.
This signature is false.
Wealthy capitalist.
hmph.
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 11, 2011 1:49 AM EDT up reply actions
My favourite was actually for the c64!
Street Sports Basketball!
This is like Vince Carter elbow-style in 1988!! Ahead of the curve.
by garrettelliott on May 10, 2011 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions
that dude
is fucking awesome.
Jai Alai's got the bomb hops, drinkin Belgian styles from Cooperstown to Comstock.
He’s really bringing it with the sweat pants and home-made cut-off shirt.
by garrettelliott on May 10, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions
and camel toe
"Don't know whatcha got, 'til it's goooonnnee..."
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on May 11, 2011 5:36 AM EDT up reply actions
Well if we're discussing commodore 64 type shit
I didn’t really play it, but I watched my older brother a lot. I was pretty young for video games back then.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
this image is all kinds of bad ass
even low res.
these dudes are in front of a wall of graffiti in, what, 1984? and “hip-hop-ification” has ruined the sport for fuddy-duddy white dudes recently?
I had a drink with an anonymous detroit sports writer at a bar on the east side a few years ago, two blocks from my house on Ashland. Two take aways from that conversation: he was one of those dudes who was racist but didn’t really want to admit it, but blamed his disdain of NBA basketball on the “Hip-Hop-ification” of the sport. Kind of similar to Karl Rove recently calling Common a “thug”. HAHAHAhahahahahahaa to the fucking ahahahahahahahah!
Take away #2: Said asshole sports writer (who was drinking alone until we came in) was a supporter of the asinine NY times grammar rule of using only one comma when listing items. Example: Oranges, apples and bananas. This, of course, is ridiculous because apples and bananas are not part of the same item. This rule is pretty much indefensible, and if you do defend it, you’re probably some conformist, racist sports writer sitting by yourself drinking at the bar. You probably aren’t even from Detroit or have any real love for the hope that springs from a world of Payne. So get the fuck out of my city with that bullshit.
"Don't know whatcha got, 'til it's goooonnnee..."
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on May 11, 2011 6:00 AM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
I absolutely support your support of the serial comma
Not using serial commas is a legit pet peeve of mine.
I enjoy, appreciate, and cherish the serial comma.
by -PS- on May 11, 2011 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rec'd
For using commas the way my mommy taught me.
"It might be cool, I don't know... and if not, I don't care."
-Ronald Jenkees
The best was when you’d break the backboard and the grumpy janitor would come and sweep it up.
by garrettelliott on May 11, 2011 9:23 AM EDT up reply actions
I also had Jordan Vs Bird for C64, and it had the best dunk contest ever. You would choose your dunk from 9 different options and each one had a special joystick movement and timing thing you had to figure out and master. That was revolutionary back in the day!
by garrettelliott on May 11, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Me too. I had a few that were my go-to dunks because I could get 50’s almost every time, but that toss slam was HARD, man.
by garrettelliott on May 12, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
He's cheap, he's here, he's starting
I think most Pistons fans can live with Daye starting and failing at SF a lot easier than they can live with a busted FA signing. Solve the logjam at G and get some FC depth.
I wouldn’t mind trying to sign Sam Young from Memphis at SF because Les Griz will have cap problems now that they look good in the playoffs and have to resign Marc Gasol.
by joejoejoe on May 9, 2011 11:22 AM EDT reply actions 3 recs
this is the correct answer.
Jai Alai's got the bomb hops, drinkin Belgian styles from Cooperstown to Comstock.
I agree with everything but the Sam Young move. Sam is 25 years old, and he’s not significantly more productive than Daye (who will be cheaper and younger).
Young for the bench
I can’t say I’ve seen a lot of Memphis this year but they seem to win a lot with Young in the lineup. I thought he might be a cheap FA pickup to play backup SG/SF who can defend big 3s in the Eastern Conference. I was thinking more depth at SF than jumping Daye. I wanted both Blair and Young when they came out of Pitt. I don’t mind the old rookie thing.
I think something is changing about older players in the NBA that isn’t quite in the stats yet. I think having the NBA work ethic at 25 is better than having the NBA skill set at 22. Look at Afflalo, Tony Allen, Wes Mathews. These guys are old for their NBA experience and not supposed to get better but they are getting a lot better. Maturity helps you improve.
Also, minutes
As Matt said, Daye hasn’t played big minutes. It would be nice to have two position players who had different skills and allowed you to match up once in a while instead of….a raft of ball dominating guards who can’t function together. Young is a better finisher inside, Daye has a better outside shot. Young is stronger, Daye is longer. It could be a good cheap mix.
Here’s what I have to say.
I want Daye to be the Pistons sixth man. I think he’d be good in that position.
WORD PLAY
Ever since I'm back where my brother went, that's what my tomb will say.
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by Biz Markie Moon on May 9, 2011 12:00 PM EDT reply actions
Yeah, exactly. He is cheaper than all of the above, though.
WORD PLAY
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by Biz Markie Moon on May 10, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
great you all want daye . . . you know what the hell is wrong with the pistons? they are all decent men but they are ALL SIXTH MEN.
we dont need no more guys that can come off the bench. We already got 11 of them. We need starters.
Dear Boner Itchy (if that IS your real name),
We’ve said several times we need starters. We’ve said several times we have a team of sixth men. We’ve said said several times that this is an issue. The sixth man is not the issue here, dude. It’s about signing a line on this contract, and ignore this line, you do not play.
WORD PLAY
Ever since I'm back where my brother went, that's what my tomb will say.
Not sick of my WORD PLAY and general nonsense? Check me out at hollywoodsloce.tumblr.com
by Biz Markie Moon on May 9, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions
I DO NOT ROLL ON THE SABBATH DUDE!!!
Shomer fucking shabbos.
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 9, 2011 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions
You're entering a world of hurt Smokey.
MARK IT EIGHT DUDE!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Remember during summer league when we were wondering if Daye could compete for most improved player? Good times…. good times…..
And we were also saying
That CV was the new “Chiseled Charlie,” and Jonas was going to have a great season, and Maxiel was going to bounce back, and Stuckey was going to turn the corner and if not MFWB was going to step right in, and of course we were going to make a move to end the logjam of guards/wings and get some legit bigs. . . . Yeah, good times.
At least there is MOOSE
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Amazing!
We only have one SF under contract. I never though I’d see the day. Don’t mess up the good vibes Jod!
by bezeerk on May 9, 2011 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
he’s a free agent
Jai Alai's got the bomb hops, drinkin Belgian styles from Cooperstown to Comstock.
Who needs SFs any ways? I think we need more OGs.
by garrettelliott on May 9, 2011 1:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks
But is there really interest in him from other teams? In other words, isn’t it likely he’s still going to be a Piston next year?
Actually I'm not sure, but I didn't hear about an injury
Maybe SpursFanSteve can give us the inside scoop.
I don’t think he was injured, but I do think it’s puzzling that he didn’t play against MEM. Enlighten us, Steve!
He was getting a fair amount of minutes the first couple of games.
Blair’s minutes decreased as the series went on, presumably to ineffectiveness. He just wasn’t playing well. I don’t think he was playing at all by the time Games 5 and 6 rolled around.
Blair couldn’t get an zebounds or zoints against Z-Bo in the zost, so they took him zout I think.
by garrettelliott on May 9, 2011 7:13 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
I blame those horrible Memphis announcers.
by garrettelliott on May 9, 2011 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions
From PTR:
His grandmother died, and Tiago played well enough to earn minutes.
by Tim C. on May 9, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Blair also got fat.
by silverandblack_davis on May 9, 2011 11:52 PM EDT up reply actions
he’s a 6’5 center and we were getting killed in the paint.
by spursfan87 on May 9, 2011 11:50 PM EDT up reply actions
No, this was more of a personal thing
by Josh Guyer (completely deck) on May 9, 2011 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
6’5? He’s shrinking!
by LatinD on May 9, 2011 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Blair struggled with his conditioning and defensive breakdowns during the season. But the summer will be critical as he will try to get back in Popovich’s good graces when the lockout ends. A suggestion: no Whataburgers chased by Strawberry Fanta this summer.
by spursfan87 on May 9, 2011 11:56 PM EDT up reply actions
by garrettelliott on May 9, 2011 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude Srsly s Whataburger...
NTTAWWT
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 9, 2011 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Apparently <3’s turned into nothing.
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 10, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Basically, what everyone else said, Grandma died, wasn’t playing well, ate too much Whataburger- it was just the way he liked it.
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 10, 2011 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
Would good Blair have had a better chance at stopping Z-Bo than fat, mourning Blair?
by garrettelliott on May 10, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions
(although Z-Bo was really playing out of his mind that series)
by garrettelliott on May 10, 2011 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Eh… He’s played well against him before. IME, if Dyess couldn’t stop him, no one can.
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by SpursfanSteve on May 10, 2011 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
Dude we get you’re a spurs fan, but really? Dyess used to be my favorite player after Ben Wallace left but he’s also 36. That’s somewhat asinine to say if he couldn’t stop Z-Bo, no one can.
I bet that Andrew Bynum, Dwight Howard, Ben Wallace (if healthy) and perhaps KG could at the very least bring Z-Bo to manageable levels. Also I don’t get why OKC has Perkins on Gasol, I would switch him and Ibaka.
I have decided to start a career in rap under the presumptuous name of Dextrorotatory Glucose. However, you may call me "D-Sugar" for short
by bearded thundar on May 10, 2011 8:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I meant no one on the Spurs.
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by SpursfanSteve on May 10, 2011 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Do you think his knees will explode like the episode of South Park where what's his name has the leg implants and they use Garrison's testicles as knee caps?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on May 9, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeah him.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
If this were an OKC Thunder blog
Don’t you think we’d have made the “Hard-on for Harden” shirts by now?
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Have you checked
SBN’s Thunder blog? It’s dead.
And yes, you would have, and yes, PtR would have. :)
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by SpursfanSteve on May 10, 2011 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, I can't believe how dead it is over there.
I remember checking it out when the Perk trade went down. We had 20 times as many comments about it here on DBB then they did.
I’ve been told that there are some very active Thunder blogs out there though. Guess the SBN’s blog just never took off.
"It might be cool, I don't know... and if not, I don't care."
-Ronald Jenkees
They came over here and bitched about how when I made my OKC vs. Pistons fan game thread at the end of the season that I linked to the wrong Thunder blog
Apparently there is one off of SBNation that is pretty popular…doesn’t surprise me really, just like the team rustlers that they are, they prefer to live “off the range” rather than live with us high-brow societal folk.
Fuck OKC.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on May 10, 2011 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Fuck OKC.
Fuck OKC.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
I don't know man.
Even so, there is no way in hell I am wearing a piece of clothing that reads “Hard-on”.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
by Skylar on May 10, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
What if Gregory develops his own shot
And we call it the Moose Knuckle. Would you wear a shirt that says Moose Knuckle?
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No.
but I will rock any Monroadwarrior, Monrobocop, or other Moosroe type joints. I just can’t wear shirts with toilet humor type slogans on them. You my friend, are obviously more than free to, however.
/not tryin to be elitist
//just don’t like that stuff on my clothing
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
I’d totally wear a t-shirt with the Greg Monroe MF Doom conglomerate in my profile picture.
WORD PLAY
Ever since I'm back where my brother went, that's what my tomb will say.
Not sick of my WORD PLAY and general nonsense? Check me out at hollywoodsloce.tumblr.com
by Biz Markie Moon on May 10, 2011 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I would...but only if it has Greg's face on it giving a winky face and a sparkle coming off his smile.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
That works too.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
His parents failed by not naming him Richard.
by Shinons* on May 10, 2011 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
My best friend was born in Uganda, his name is Amos.
His brother’s name is actually Ivan, which I wasn’t expecting for a ugandan cat. (I wasn’t expected Amos either)
Amos’ middle name is Jethro. No lie.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
If the argument is, “Austin Daye should start at the SF by default,” then yes, I’m on board.
If the argument is, “Austin Daye should start at the SF because he’s earned it with his play,” then I don’t agree.
Austin still has time to develop, but as of this moment, he’s just a lot of potential.
that is like his only look.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on May 10, 2011 12:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Member...
When we lost in triple OT to the Nets in game 5 of the 2004 semis?
If I’m a Memphis fan, I am good for NOTHING today.
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yeah that game was pretty epic...
Somehow Vazquez almost became the super hero that saved the day too…That said, when you remove Conley and Mayo from the equation, Memphis is so one-dimensional that Gasol/Randolph are much easier to handle…even still…Gasol had 20+ rebounds and Z-Bo went for another 30+/10+ game.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
My first attempt at a Panda post -- Facepalm edition
Courtesy Basketbawful, of all places.
by Toledo Joe on May 10, 2011 7:56 PM EDT reply actions 8 recs
My first attempt at a Panda post -- Facepalm edition
Courtesy Basketbawful, of all places.
by Toledo Joe on May 10, 2011 7:57 PM EDT reply actions 6 recs
This is second first
I kid. :)
Where broken English happens
by OK from J on May 10, 2011 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
fuck it, around these parts it earns you double recs
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
it appears that you lost all the respect OK from J ever had for you.
by freywagg on May 11, 2011 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Joe from Toledo has all my respect though killa
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
Of course it is not the matter
OK from OK from J.
But it is awful that text remain forever,
even if it is not tell right thing.
Sometime I also would like delete my comment I posted.
Where broken English happens
by OK from J on May 12, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
a night of monumence
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
fuck. I forgot "night of"
damnit it’s not even possible when being done alone…
Free Steve Novak
by SpursfanSteve on May 11, 2011 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
"night of"
/late pass’d
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
I’d take that. Kevin Martin’s a retardedly efficient scorer.
WORD PLAY
Ever since I'm back where my brother went, that's what my tomb will say.
Not sick of my WORD PLAY and general nonsense? Check me out at hollywoodsloce.tumblr.com
by Biz Markie Moon on May 12, 2011 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
Is that a slang term for stealing Pusha T’s woman?
WORD PLAY
Ever since I'm back where my brother went, that's what my tomb will say.
Not sick of my WORD PLAY and general nonsense? Check me out at hollywoodsloce.tumblr.com
by Biz Markie Moon on May 12, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Kevin MartinDelonte West’s a retardedly efficient scorer.
BronMom’d
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
by Skylar on May 12, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
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