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Tom Gores: Our job isn't to agree with Joe Dumars


Tom Gores was officially introduced as the new owner of the Detroit Pistons this afternoon, and in case you missed the press conference, the Detroit News has posted a live stream, which you can watch above. The whole thing is worth watching if you're a Pistons fan, with one highlight coming at the 20-minute mark when he's asked who he will lean on for basketball knowledge. 

"We're getting educated, we haven't bought a basketball team before," Gores answered. "We have a guy who's been in the league for a very long time by the name of Joe Dumars. And we're going to lean on him, pretty heavy. Joe, he knows basketball.

"And we're going to push Joe. I mean he knows that, we already told him that 'we're going to challenge you every single way, whether it's right or wrong, we're going to push you and we're going to push you hard.' Because our job isn't to agree with Joe. Our job is to challenge Joe, and hopefully that will make the outcome better.

"We have a great deep organization. Last night in greeting the Palace, I realized, wow, the depth of knowledge going throughout the Palace -- whether it's the media folks, the PR folks, Joe's folks, Alan's* folks -- there's a great deep knowledge. We have to bring that out. So the fact is we don't need a lot of outside people. We might use a few. We don't need a lot of outside people, we have it right here -- we just have to tap it."

* [That'd be Alan Ostfield, president and CEO of Palace Sports & Entertainment and the Detroit Pistons] 

When asked to clarify if that meant Joe Dumars was his guy and would remain the vice president and general manager, Gores answered: "Yes, of course. Joe and I are getting to know each other. We agree on core values, and, you know, we'll see, we're going to have to fight it out, we have to fight it out. But Joe's ready and I'm ready."

Overall, I think Pistons fans have good reason to be excited -- Gores emphasized accountability and acting quick to correct mistakes, something that this franchise has sorely missed the past couple of seasons. 

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Joe Dumars has done some great work, and we therefore adopt him. To welcome him to our new regime, we present him with this leash. It’s just long enough that he shouldn’t need to crap on the patio.

by Kevin Sawyer on Jun 2, 2011 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m guessing that someone inside platinum equity knows how to run a regression. Maybe math can be our friend, now.

by Colin M on Jun 2, 2011 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I had no idea his name was pronounced “Gor-ez.” Way cooler.

by TDP on Jun 2, 2011 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

I watched the video, realized that no one from Platinum Equity is in Michigan, and got real scared

I read the quotes earlier and I had to change my pants like everyone else, but once I got home and started listening…I got a little worried. I’m not trying to piss on the campfire or take a dump in the chocolate fountain, but I really wanted to air some legitimate concerns. These concerns are not about Tom Gores as a person, he seems like a great person an his success at platinum equity needs no explanation. I am worried about the larger idea of merging basketball and business. Even though Tom Gores, and not Platinum equity, owns the Pistons he still spoke about “assets” and “Investment” and never talked about any decisions being made by him self, always “We” and “Us”. Regardless of Platinum equity having a formal role in ownership, he is already seated next to two members of his team with the idea that they will run the organization when he is gone. Both of those guys are based out of Boston. This means that the only ownership member we saw today who could be around to ensure things are going the right way is … wait for it … Karen Davidson?

Is that the way basketball teams should be run? Businesses can be expected to have the culture and values be consistent from a far, but I don’t know if basketball teams are the same. Basketball teams might be more like running a 9 month long summer camp for a bunch of rich millionaires who are too immature to really understand the importance of maintaining values and are constantly faced with emotional stress from winning, losing and injuries. The owner is useful as a mentor and a role model who players must “act right” around, and be the standards bearer for the values that are so important. Without a owner with a real presence, a team could quickly turn into a lord of the flies situation.

As great as Tom Gores is, he won’t be able to be around that much, so who will then check to make sure the team is living up to the standards? Imagine a school where the teachers had no principals office to send kids to, or if they did have to send kids to the principals office, or they have a conference call with the principal, or they wait 2 days for the principal to fly in. Will the kids every act right? You may argue that this kind of stuff is not the owners role, but just last years it was obvious none of the coaches, or Dumars could handle the team.

The owner needs to have a finger on the pulse of the whole organization, and be visible enough to remind people how they should carry themselves in good times and bad. I’m worried that Tom Gores might have trouble being that owner. I’m worried that the team from Platinum Equity will not be at filling in for Gores as a role model or principal. I’m worried that we’ll pass on a deal to bring in Rasheed Wallace because we don’t think we’ll be able to handle him.

…Then he went and said he used to be a Lakers fan and I really freaked out and started writing all this.

Welcome... to the Wallace-hood

by tads on Jun 2, 2011 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

this is all fully fair tads

I found it a bit uncomfortable that this was clearly a platinum equity project, not a tom gores project. It felt really strange that his two partners had to “drop the green” to work on this, and that in his absence they would be making ownership calls.

That said, I like that personnel decisions and contracting will be handled like a genuine business. In my eyes, GMs have too much control. I don’t mind it if the GM is a statistician or uses one to vet his decisions (which Dumars clearly hasn’t done in the last five years), but blind-flying GMs do not build winning teams. Joe wasn’t flying blind and without a leash when he built the last champion, but we see what it’s like when he’s left to make the calls at the top.

I love the fact that Joe now has to justify his decisions to a panel like this, one that will force him to make an objective, analyzed case. It might just save any chance Joe has at surviving in Detroit. It could be as good a thing as it seems sinister or different to us now.

Do it Jores!

by Mike Payne on Jun 2, 2011 9:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't intend to drop a deuce in the pool, nor am I down on Tom Gores

While I’m worried that we won’t get as much Gores as the team will need, I’m glad about all the shit I don’t have to worry about.

No wondering about stadium politics (for the time being)
No wondering about whether the owner knows how to run a business
No wondering about moving to vegas

I don’t think we have anything to worry about until we are much closer to contention, and hopefully by then Platinum will have a full time Detroit staff, and Gores will work out a way to be around when it counts (trade deadline, early july, etc.).

Welcome... to the Wallace-hood

by tads on Jun 2, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Wouldn't Worry About That

I think Gores is going to establish himself as a visible front man, that much was clear to me from the presser, no matter what entity owns the team.

Hermosa Beach as Hell!

by V. on Jun 3, 2011 4:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

As long as...

Gores supplies the money the team needs to improve, I trust JD to make most of the basketball decisions. And as long as the miles between JD and Gores don’t hamper their communication, I think it should be fine. However, it does seem to me that Gores views the Pistons too much like part of a business including the Palace as an arena instead of a historic and rich basketball team full of rich heritage and emotion. Hopefully, as he grows to know the team and the Pistons community his view will change to put more emphasis on winning no matter the cost. That being said, it is exciting to hear that he want’s to make moves quickly.

Ball Don't Lie

by BADB0Y on Jun 2, 2011 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  


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