NBA Mock Draft 2011: Everything's turning up Biyombo for the Pistons!
by Matt Watson on Jun 23, 2011 8:01 AM EDT
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PrintNot only is Bismack Biyombo the clear-cut favorite among DBB readers, he's also the consensus pick by the media. (Seriously, it's crazy -- take a peek below the jump to see what I'm talking about it.) And in a move that vindicates all of the hype, the NBA finally extended Biyombo a belated invitation to the green room for tonight's draft after snubbing him when the initial invites went out last week. Jonathan Giovany of DraftExpress has the news in his latest mock draft for Yahoo:
Biyombo appears to be the clear-cut favorite in Detroit at the moment, after an outstanding workout on Tuesday against Tristan Thompson and Markieff Morris, where he showed significantly better offensive ability than he was thought to possess.
Biyombo’s strong ascension up NBA teams’ draft boards has not gone unnoticed by the league office, causing NBA officials to extend him a last-minute invitation to the green room, said multiple sources close to the situation. Teams that were looking to select the "unknown" Biyombo did not want to give the appearance of reaching so badly for his services that they would have to fetch him out of the crowd to shake David Stern’s hand, which is why a last-minute push was made to bring him in. Unfortunately, his family will not be able to arrive in time from the Congo.
Sam Amick of Sports Illustrated has Detroit selecting Biyombo in his mock draft posted Wednesday morning:
All those Ben Wallace comparisons will be put to the test, as Biyombo would be paired with the man himself in Motor City. Let's just hope he remembers to emulate the young Ben Wallace.
Valanciunas is a possibility, too, but new ownership could put the kibosh on drafting a player who can't produce right away (even if that might turn out to be flawed logic because a potential lockout could erase the season that Valanciunas would be missing as it is). Kansas power forward Markieff Morris played his way into contention for this spot during a Tuesday workout that also included Biyombo, but I'm not sold that he gets the nod.
SB Nation's Tom Ziller has Detroit taking Biyombo, as does ... Keith Langlois (!) of Pistons.com:
The choice for the Pistons, if the draft plays out this way, almost certainly will come down to Bismack Biyombo or Texas frosh Tristan Thompson. And you can flip a coin as to whom they’ll take. You can bet the war room conversation will be spirited, but the Pistons are going to come out of there feeling pretty good. They like the high character, competitiveness, toughness, rebounding and defensive mind-set both players represent. Biyombo probably has both the higher ceiling and the lower floor. If they hit, he could be a dynamic frontcourt partner for Greg Monroe for the next dozen years.
CBS Sports' Ben Golliver predicts Biyombo lands in Detroit, though Matt Moore (same link) gives the nod to Marcus Morris. NBA.com's Scott Howard-Cooper likes Biyombo:
The closer the Draft gets, the more some teams believe Joe Dumars needs the safe pick, with a new owner and a new coach. Biyombo is definitely not a safe-pick guy, but he does project as a game changer more than anyone still on the board. That's impossible to ignore.
As of Tuesday, ESPN's Chad Ford liked Biyombo:
Analysis: We've had the Pistons taking Valanciunas the past few weeks, but with Valanciunas now planning on returning to Europe for another year, I don't think the Pistons will take the chance. With Kemba Walker also off the board, the Pistons are down to two prospects -- Biyombo and Tristan Thompson.
Thompson has upside, but from what I can gather, the team is still very high on Biyombo. The Pistons know how to develop a defensive stopper like this. This pick might come down to what happens at Tuesday's workout between Thompson and Biyombo.
I'm sure I've missed a few dissenters, but at this point they're nearly impossible to find. Could this really happen? Don't Kemba this up, Joe!
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THE BLOCKOPALYPSE IS IMMINENT
Welcome... to the Wallace-hood
by tads on Jun 23, 2011 8:33 AM EDT reply actions 4 recs
BitchSmack!!!
I would love to see this happen tonight. We need interior D so damn bad its sad.
The artist formally known as DetBalla.
by BillyRude on Jun 23, 2011 8:37 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Please do not make fun of my name
I find this offensive.
by Bismack Biyombo on Jun 23, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
If you don't wind up on this team I'm Red Panda-ing the shit out of you
Welcome... to the Wallace-hood
In fact, I'd go as far as to say if he doesn't end up on the Pistons, the only response he gets is red pandas.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
what?
i’ve seen red panda pictures on here before but i don’t know what they’re supposed to mean.
by CheerstoLilWayne on Jun 23, 2011 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah.
i don’t understand the red pandas either.
search fanposts for "A Brief History of Red Pandas"
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jun 23, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Toronto is the team to watch
If Brandon Knight is off the board at their pick I think they take Bismack. So we should be rooting for Utah to take Kanter at pick 3 in order to have Knight drop to Toront’s pick.
Don’t you think Toronto would take Kanter before reaching for Bismack? I can’t see them passing on Kanter.
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by BillyRude on Jun 23, 2011 9:05 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They definitely could if he's available
He may be gone at pick 4 to Cleveland in my scenario. I just haven’t heard much linking Kanter to Toronto.
I kinda want to see Cleveland draft Kanter and Irving. Thereby using two top 4 picks on guys that played a total of what, 10 games last season combined.
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by JumpingBlob on Jun 23, 2011 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions
cleveland might be looking to trade the pick using their Trade Exception
so who knows who might be picking at 4
We must not forget about Houston.
With the assets the Rockets have, that team can possibly swoop up to just about any spot above 8 and make a pick that throws things out of wack.
by Kruza on Jun 23, 2011 9:49 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
They want Valanciunas
Or certainly seem to.
by Kevin Sawyer on Jun 23, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions
BLOCKS AND DUNKS
BRING THEM TO US.
by Other Matt on Jun 23, 2011 9:00 AM EDT via mobile reply actions 5 recs
Biyombo at Number 8
Jump up and down, and move it all around
Shake your head to the sound, put your hand on the ground
Take one step left and one step right
One to the front and one to the side
Clap your hand once and clap your hands twice
And if it looks like this then you are doing it right
by Packey on Jun 23, 2011 9:14 AM EDT reply actions 5 recs
was watching some of his spanish league play
and he was not definitely not THAT aggressive…give this kid time and he’s gonna be a beast
J.UST E.NJOY T.HIS S.HIT
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by big_p.a.w.z. on Jun 23, 2011 9:20 AM EDT up reply actions
I would take Tristian Thompson. He is only a freshman and has an NBA body. He will never be a mega superstar but this dude is a cant miss solid NBA player. Tough as nails and a developing post game. It seems everyone wants the “sexy” pick I say take the sure thing in this case.
Maybe so
but I think there’s a real argument for taking a gamble here – and I mean philosophically, not just because of DBB’s collective crush on MFBB. There will be more opportunities to pick up solid rotation guys – free agency, trades, second rounders panning out – but when else is there the opportunity to get a player with this high of a ceiling? (Short of clearing a large amount of cap space and spending all of it in order to convince a big name to join a rebuilding team where he will spend the next five winters with snow chains obscuring his chrome rims.) (Or trading away our, um, many-splendoured assets.) (Or sucking even worse next year and getting a better pick.)
I’m usually pretty risk averse, and maybe if I’m Joe D I go for a safer pick for reasons of job security. But since my arse isn’t on the line: Bring on the aBlockalypse!
by excellent dinosaur on Jun 23, 2011 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And a safe pick to me is drafting a guy who’s ceiling is a rotational type player. We already have a team full of rotational players (outside of Monroe obviously). This draft as noted is not very good for teams who are looking for game changers and if we have the possibility of picking one at eight, I don’t understand how you can pass that up for a “safe” pick when you are in the Piston’s position.
by Mr. Barton on Jun 23, 2011 12:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Ill be happy if we draft bb, tt, or mm
by Piztonz on Jun 23, 2011 9:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Brigitte Bardot? Tina Turner? Marilyn Monroe?
by -PS- on Jun 23, 2011 10:30 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Turner still has nice legs
by Piztonz on Jun 23, 2011 10:34 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions 4 recs
Bardot, on the other hand, needs to squat more
by Rob Rogacki on Jun 23, 2011 12:31 PM EDT up reply actions
duh
girl been squattin’
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 12:33 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
I'd let her squat on my face...
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
yeah buddy
girl has dat der thundarous thighs
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
She should close her closet door.
WORD PLAY
hollywoodsloce.tumblr.com
by Biz Markie Moon on Jun 23, 2011 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions
and put a fucking fitted sheet on her mattress
it’s not sanitary to sleep directly on it.
Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.
by Mike Payne on Jun 23, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Bodacious Blocks? Tall & Tenacious? Menacing Manchild? I believe we have reached a consensus.
by excellent dinosaur on Jun 23, 2011 10:48 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
yeh!!!
Biyombo’s strong ascension up NBA teams’ draft boards has not gone unnoticed by the league office, causing NBA officials to extend him a last-minute invitation to the green room, said multiple sources close to the situation.
J.UST E.NJOY T.HIS S.HIT
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by big_p.a.w.z. on Jun 23, 2011 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I dont care if he is 18 or 28 bring him to detroit. I want blocks and dunks.
by Piztonz on Jun 23, 2011 10:49 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Dammit!
Chad Ford:
The Raptors love Brandon Knight, but would they take Bismack Biyombo even if Knight is on the board at No. 5? I’m hearing it’s a real possibility.
oh noes
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by big_p.a.w.z. on Jun 23, 2011 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions
Love the angry red panda
I will be the angry panda if we end up with Tristan Thompson. Pissed, but still drinkin’ the Langloisian kool-aid.
by mountaineermac on Jun 23, 2011 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I honestly am starting to hope that somehow Thompson and Biyombo are both off the board by #8. If that happens, I can see JoD trading down for Markieff / Faried plus another first rounder, which IMHO, is a better situation than Biyombo or Thompson in the long term.
I could be wrong, just epinion.
Bring on the negative recs!
by brgulker on Jun 23, 2011 11:53 AM EDT reply actions 2 recs
no sugarcoat, biYOMbo and thompson not just SOLID players, but also SLEPPERS, not top 7 picks.
will be THERE when pistons choose at number 8. unless other team makes MEGA-trade. just epinion
by -PS- on Jun 23, 2011 11:58 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
rec’d for sleppers
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
I like Faried enough to favor this option. But I also favor Biyombo and this concept of a BLOCKOPALYPSE! I’m fairly impressed by the options in this draft for quality bigs. I feel fairly comfortable that we’ll be either ecstatic tonight or at least content tomorrow after some long discussion and a general debate of drafted players stats and possible nicknames.
2011 The Year of the Jerebko : For Jonas!
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by JumpingBlob on Jun 23, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ll give you a positive rec. The more all this draft nonsense has gone on, the more I’ve become comfortable with the real possibility of trading down. Especially for Faried, who I kind of want any way.
This signature is false.
This needs to happen
IF we end up with both Markieff AND Faried that would be a successful draft. chances are very good one or both of those guys would be solid role players in the league. With Faried having solid starter potential on things we desperately need. If Joe was truly offered this trade, sign me up for the Fire JOD NOW! He will not be the next Ben Wallace that dude will never be replicated.
Not sure that's a possibility
Both are projecting to be gone by 21. Faried is probably the most likely to drop. That’s my problem. Faried and Morris is a nice draft. Morris and some random combo guard?
Or, worse, say Walker slips to the 14.
Kemba Walker and Travis Leslie, FTW.
by Kevin Sawyer on Jun 23, 2011 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Cavs looking for another lottery pick
Give them rip and our pick if bb is gone
by Piztonz on Jun 23, 2011 12:09 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
I'm not understanding the big deal about the 18 vs 22 years old debate..
I understand the ceiling maybe lower if he is older but as long as he can play right away and contribute it shouldn’t be a big deal. Plus, it’s not like Yi Jianlian controversy where he was thought to be around 21 but evidence shows he was closer 26 years old.
Deeeeeee-pressing Basketball!
On a brighter note, Mason is going to have a field day with his name.
Biiiiiizzzzy Bone-Miggity-Mickie D-Mac Ba-Ba-Ba-Yo-Jumanji-Boooooooo!
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by DBB Diablo on Jun 23, 2011 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
This is the shirt
I am wearing today.
DO IT JOD!
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by heWizard on Jun 23, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I dont get the Bismack love..
For one he isn’t a guarantee to be Ben Wallace 2.0.. he was unknown until January, and was playing in YEMEN! (not a top league) He has absolutely no offensive game, and make Joakhim Noah look like MJ.. How are you guys so sold on someone that has more of a chance to be Thabeet/Diop/Ajinca and the list goes on of other random big men who are one dimensional. This team needs help, but getting someone who we hope can at least play one end of the court is kind of crazy to me. What makes him better then Joel Anthony?! Would you draft Joel in the top 10 too? Personally I would want Kanter or Knight, then possibly Leonard to replace Tayshaun if your going to stay at 8. If not trade out and get Faried, Morris, Thompson or whoever else of interest
potential
Same way Terrico White > John Wall, Bismack = Ben Wallace
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 12:37 PM EDT up reply actions
BUT...
Terrico was a 2nd round pick!!! Not a lottery selection
John Wall was the first overall pick
Which is why Terrico White was by far the second best pick in the draft, behind Monroe
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions
I think part of it..
is that this franchise has built their success on defensive oriented teams and this fanbase is desperate for another defensive presence.
Deeeeeee-pressing Basketball!
ACB
which he got called up from the Yemen league because they needed an extra big man..He was unknown until January sir.
I don't care if he came from the Pittsburgh YMCA League
When you’re sitting in the mid-lottery swing for the fences. He’s either Ben Wallace 2.0 or another Saer Sene. I’d rather take that risk than pick Kemba or Kawhi Leonard. We already have nine bench players—we don’t need two more. Let’s see if we can find a starter that complements Moose. If it doesn’t work we can all forget that we were in favor of the selection and bitch about how stupid JoD is.
by mountaineermac on Jun 23, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions
i love how my two favorite guys are Kemba and Kawhi Leonard.
by CheerstoLilWayne on Jun 23, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions
I love how you don't post very much about your love for those players.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jun 23, 2011 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I get it
but I’m not sure why you said the YEMEN league in your original post when his most recent play was in the ACB. It also doesn’t matter to me why he was called up to the ACB league. I only care about what he did when he got there. During his play in the ACB he lead the league in blocked shots (in only 17 mpg), was 4th in rebounds per 40 minutes and 4th in free throws per 40 minutes and 20th in PER while having a low foul rate. He’s also has an NBA body, a 7-7 wingspan, and is considered a great athlete with the intangibles and work ethic to match.
I get the concerns. I have spoken about them in other threads and if you want some one else I can understand that, but let’s not discount what Bismack has shown.
One thing I don't get
Is his rebound rate, 10 per 40 is kinda weak imo. Monroe has half the athletic ability and he was averaging 10 in 30 minutes post all star break, not to mention Markieff is averaging 13 per 40. For a guy that is reportedly as athletic as Biyombo, he should be putting up much closer to 15 per 40 if he’s the next Ben Wallace
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Kid hasn't been playing that long
If you believe he’s really 18-20, Biyombo hasn’t been playing ball that long. I think we can all agree that a lot of rebounding is a feel for where the ball will be that you develop while playing (hence Kevin Love can figure out how to snare 30 boards in a game). Hopefully as he grows more accustomed to the game that rate will increase to match his athleticism.
by mountaineermac on Jun 23, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
Kevin Love as averaged 14+ boards per 40 in college
Dude has amazing fundamentals, possibly the best out of any big drafted in the past 10 years (including both Greg Oden and Blake Griffin) . Not to mention he’s actually got a 35" vertical, much more athletic than people give them credit for
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
rec'd for as averaged
should be also averaged
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed
Not trying to disparage K-Love, just noting that he does not have Bismackian athleticism. Dude gets a lot of boards because he knows where to be.
by mountaineermac on Jun 23, 2011 1:38 PM EDT up reply actions
exactly
and that’s what worries me about Bismack, the guy reportedly has a nose for the ball so his fundamentals must be really weak if he can’t average over 10 boards per 40 playing only 17 minutes per game. Typically high energy guys put up rediculous per 40 stats because they play small minutes, Amir is a premier example of this
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions
I was a bit confused by that too
but I think the most important thing is measuring where he ranks in relation to others in the league not the per 40 #. I looked at the league leaders for the ACB and teams must play at a slower pace and/or shoot more efficienty than the NCAA. There are 18 teams total and only 1 guy averaged more than 16 ppg, only 1 guy averaged over 9 rpg, and no one averaged 6 apg.
that's true, everything is relative
But as i understand it the ACB is primarily a perimeter league, not one with a lot of inside play (whether post moves or athletic finishes at the rim) – meaning there should be a lot of available rebounds
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I have no stats to back this up
but I’d think it would be tougher to get a rebound in the ACB compared to the NCAA. Bismack was playing grown men every night while half the teams Kansas played had no legitimate big men.
I’d like to see what % of available rebounds Bismack pulled in.
But as i understand it the ACB is primarily a perimeter league, not one with a lot of inside play
Doesn’t that suggest the opposite? Wouldn’t that lead to more rebounds outside of the paint?
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by Mike Payne on Jun 23, 2011 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
thats what they always say, long shots=long rebounds.
by dandresden on Jun 23, 2011 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
so what your saying is his 5.1 Rebounding avg will turn into somewhere between 10-15 because it’s the NBA?!?!
yes, that is exactly what we’re saying.
Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.
by Mike Payne on Jun 23, 2011 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
ACB teams do play at a slow pace.
That was one of the biggest reasons behind Rubio finally coming over. Minnesota’s supposedly going to run more next season and Rubio would presumably be more comfortable in that kind of offensive situation than he was in Spain.
True statement: Every time you block a shot, you don't get credited for a rebound
So if Biyombo is blocking/altering shots on the ball, then its likely the other guys on his team getting rebounds off that defense. Its not easy to block/alter, turn around, get position, and go up and get the rebound.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Someone needs to hand Art William JoD's number
Draft Biyombo Joe, just do it!
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 12:35 PM EDT reply actions
Ablockalypse
I usually just troll, but I am so filled with angst and rage over what is about to occur that I can’t be expected to work today. I am considering performing a voodoo ritual that will sacrifice a live chicken, a birthday cake, and a mayo milkshake to JoD if we can just walk away with Biyombo tonight.
by mountaineermac on Jun 23, 2011 12:48 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
I find this offensive
We do not sacrifice chickens or eat birthday cakes in my home country.
by Bismack Biyombo on Jun 23, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Kwame Brown is offended by your local rituals
BIRTHDAY CAKE FOR ALL!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jun 23, 2011 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
it looks like you can read and write in english better then you speak it
by Piztonz on Jun 23, 2011 2:26 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions 1 recs
apparently better than you do too! then or than?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jun 23, 2011 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
no worries...I rec'd you for then.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Apparently the education system in the congo is better than ours
by Piztonz on Jun 23, 2011 2:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
JaJuan Johnson at 33
Take that shit to the bank.
by mountaineermac on Jun 23, 2011 1:13 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree
The guy might only be able to play PF instead of C, but he’s got a 38" vert, soft hands, benches more than Tyler (which I find to be really surprising, a 260 pound athlete can’t bench more than little 160 lb me?) and is a local kid
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 1:14 PM EDT up reply actions
correction
Benson is the local kid, but still, Johnson looks like a really good PF pick if he can learn how to fucking squat (srs, dude needs to add mass to his legs)
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions
JJ
Like JaJuan alot, steal for anybody in the 2nd. Tyrus Thomas with a jump shot imo…Tyler is intriguing but is a head case. Cant really compare with JuJuan going through a top Strength & Conditioning regiment the last few years, and Tyler thinking he was NBA ready since 15 probably never has been dedicated or pushed like JJ
I'm stil worried about his legs though
7 footer that weighs only 220 pounds? To me that says he’s top heavy, ie chicken legs. While that’s fine as an Amir type role player I can’t see him contributing heavy minutes until he can add some thundar to his thighs
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Could have a nice career as first big off the bench
by mountaineermac on Jun 23, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
he could
but there’s always a market for athletic bigs with a soft touch, just look at Joakim Noah, it’s very possible to add bulk over time. If he trains the right way, he could easily become a MLE if not higher salary player instead of a $3 mil/year guy (meaning lots of incentive for him)
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Didnt ben wallace have chicken legs?
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 23, 2011 2:07 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
no
the guy is a body builder, look at his calves alone. I bet you the guy has some monstrous thighs, I will concede Howard but the guy gets shut down by guys with really strong lower bodies like Perkins and Maxiell
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions
orlando looking to acquire Andre Miller for Jameer and then waive Miller?
WTF? i know they save money but cmon…
wut.
Can we trade Stuckey and Rip for Jameer and a pick?
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions
i thinks its an instant money saver with miller, they just waive him right away so stuckey and hamilton wouldnt fit ORL needs, someone is going to get a decent PG in miller. Jameer with the blazers seems promising at first glance.
right Stuckey plays point for them on the cheap
And they buyout Hamilton, granted we’ll have to send over some cash as well
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Seems like we have options
Lets hope JOD can pull some of that magic he used to have and hoodwink a team.
Beware the Spurs
I never want to be in the middle of what those guys are playing around with…I’m always afraid they’ll steal us blind on JoD’s best day.
by mountaineermac on Jun 23, 2011 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions
This draft is just craziness
Based on what Woj is saying I hope Cleveland drafts Jonas at 4 b/c they can’t take the chance they’ll be able to trade with the Bobcats. Assuming Bismack and Thompson are available with our pick we then trade it for Charlotte’s 9th and 19 pick. We then draft Bismack at #9 plus pick up another 1st rounder.
Do it Joe D! Show us you still have it!
that's actually not a bad idea
Then we could potentially get both bismack and Markieff
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions
If jordan’s in love with tristan, i can see this happening. Michael seems like the type that will do anything to get ‘his’ guy.
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 23, 2011 2:03 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Solution
Trade 8th pick for Bobcats’ 9 and 19.
Trade 9th pick for the 14 and 23.
by Kevin Sawyer on Jun 23, 2011 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Well I don't know if I would do that
no way Biyombo falls all the way to 14, I would be content with him and Markieff/Faried. If another legit talent slips we can always trade up our first second rounder and perhaps purchase another second. Teams perennially trade second rounders for cash so we could potentially get JaJuan that way
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by bearded thundar on Jun 23, 2011 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I have a feeling
were doing a trade today. To many possibility for JOD not to do something. He can prove today that it was nothing more than KD keeping him from making moves, and i think hes anxious to show just that. Today may end up being a wild ride boys.
In other news, the sky is still blue.
I feel bad for Rambis though…
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
If you can't make a contender
Out of Johnny Flynn and Darko Milicic, you have no business coaching in the NBA.
by Kevin Sawyer on Jun 23, 2011 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
agreed.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I like how they first told him he could keep his job and then they fired him.
That was soooo funny.
WWGMD?
kahn made him do an homework assignment.
he had to write an essay on how he was going to communicate with the players better.
at least GuMares didn’t pie-in-the-face Qstar that way.
He got Curry'd
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I'm still trying to understand why you don't play Kevin Love 30+ minutes in every game
Welcome... to the Wallace-hood
i hope biyombo dresses like Sean Connery and Michael Caine in the Man Who Would Be King tonight. Pith helmet and white linen suit.
I hope he dresses in a dress to mess with the rest.
BIYOMBO WEAR DRESS AND STILL GET DRAFTED AHEAD OF YOU MWOO HAHAHAHAHAHA BIYOMBO LAUGH AT YOU. YOU LITTLE GIRL ON BASKETBALL COURT AND IN SPIRIT. BIYOMBO LION IN DRESS.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
A draft-themed anagram—
Gregory Monroe = Greenroom orgy
by -PS- on Jun 23, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 8 recs
I recommend this post. (I think I’m gonna start saying “rec” that way, you know, for the brevity lulz)
Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.
by Mike Payne on Jun 23, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I concur with your recommendation of said post and oblige to do so post-haste.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jun 23, 2011 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
That anagram is as whimsical as it is poigniantly relevant. I hereby endourse it with a hearty recommendation and further more I intend to recommend to others the delightful prose by these upstanding gentleman, who I must say, are not cancerous in any sense, neither a cancer to this blog, nor to the sports blog nation in its entirety.
Welcome... to the Wallace-hood
by tads on Jun 23, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
It is not Kevin Garnett, alas, it is as much he as the sun is the moon, or the dog the cat, or Lebron James the badass, but rather, it is the Wallace-hood, a collection of dunk shotting and blocking basquetballs into the eyes of providence himself, and it is considered not an insult, but a reflection of the generous crafting towards man providence has taken.
WORD PLAY
hollywoodsloce.tumblr.com
by Biz Markie Moon on Jun 23, 2011 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Fox Sports
“Getting compared to everybody from Serge Ibaka to Ben Wallace isn’t fair for a player as raw as Biyombo is. Going in the top 10-12 picks is doing HIM a disservice.”
Quote Wars! For every quote you find discrediting biyombo at 8, i bet i can find one substantiating him at 8.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
today is going by so slow, come on draft time
by Piztonz on Jun 23, 2011 2:39 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
start at 5
Because anything after 4 doesn’t count
by Danny D on Jun 23, 2011 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Biyombo and Isaiah Thomas
String indications are that the Raptors could take Biyombo at #5 so Pistons fans don’t hold your collective breaths.
Also.
Should the Pistons find a way to draft Isaiah Thomas.
How cool would that be seriously.
Especially if hire Laimbeer as their coach.
yeah...fuck the fucking raptors in their fucking stupid Canadian Faces.
They need to take Canadian eh Tristan Thompson and shut the fuck up.
FUCK. ASS.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I See Pistons Bloggers
R still saying that Obama would be a great President. LOL
raises hand
Do yourself a favor, and don’t bring up politics on DBB. Keep that shit outta here.
Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.
by Mike Payne on Jun 23, 2011 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
December 30th, 20087, I was eating at an Italian restaurant in Davenport, Iowa with my girlfriend, her mother and step father. As we were finishing our meal, a group of six or seven came in, a group of mixed ages, and sat two tables over from our party. As we were getting up, my girlfriend’s step father recognized the head of the neighboring table— it was Joe Biden.
by Mike Payne on Apr 10, 2009 1:25 AM CDT
by -PS- on Jun 23, 2011 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
OH SHHHHHHNAP!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
What Mike said...
UNLESSSSSSS it’s about politicians making balloon animals
by Packey on Jun 23, 2011 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Where did that come from?
WORD PLAY
hollywoodsloce.tumblr.com
by Biz Markie Moon on Jun 23, 2011 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions
canadians suck a. Stupid raptors and the love they have for international players
by Piztonz on Jun 23, 2011 2:52 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Sources say Pistons won't take Biyombo!?!!?!
by Packey on Jun 23, 2011 2:53 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
Natalie Sitto re-tweeted this as well
That supposedly JoD has been given the go ahead to take Jonas V. if he’s still available and if not then Thompson is his man. I call bullshit.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
we better not take Jonas 2.0 if Biyombo's still available
or i swear I’m gonna keep watching most games because I’m a slacker and apparently like punishment.
true statement is true.
Regardless of who the Pistons draft, I’ll end up watching 75-80 of the games in their entirety next season.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I imagine my dog Mosa doing something like this if given an opportunity to frollick in that much snow.
Thats what this upcoming winter will be for!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Scenarios that would make me happy:
If we stay at 8:
**Biyombo or Jonas V.
If we trade down with Houston:
- Faried or Markieff with the 14th
- If Jonas V. falls is as roomered, Jonas V. (although presumably, Houston wants him if they trade up, so there’s that)
Scenarios that would make me RPBAR’d:
If we stay at 8:
- Tristan, or the wrong Morris
If we trade with Houston:
- Kevin’s above scenario with combo guards
by brgulker on Jun 23, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Hmmm
If Biyombo and Jonas V. are gone by 8, I say we take Thompson and ship him off to another team (possibly Houston or Phx) just to stick it to the Bobcats for backing out of the Chandler for Hamilton trade last year.
FUCKING COCKS
Why am I not surprised that everyone is switching their mock drafts to us taking Thompson (an undersized combo forward) and Chandler Parsons a SF before taking a 6’5" combo-guard from a smaller school at 52nd?
WHAT THE FUCK. WHAT THE FUCKING FUCK. FUCKING SHIT FUCKS COCK DICK FUCKS WHERE THE FUCK ARE THE FUCKING BLOCKS AND FUCKING DUNKS DAMN IT!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jun 23, 2011 3:41 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
I'll give you a preview of my reactionary comment after we take Thompson over Biyombo...
FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU…
to be continued.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
HALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLELUJAH AGAIN!!! Really dont want Tristan but I really really dont want Yinka Dare 2.0
you are, how they say, wrong.
you’re like the federal building 2.0
Also, I don’t understand the buy out issues with his team. They released him shortly after the Nike Hoops Summit. Can a team release their player and still obtain buy out cash for him?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
He had a large wingspan too..
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it appears someone has move in front of the Pistons
DraftExpress Jonathan Givony
Teams calling Sacramento about the #7 pick are being told it’s already been moved. Problem is, no one knows to who, or for which player.
And it appears it might be
GeryWoelfel Gery Woelfel
by CBSSportsNBA
Bucks appear to have deal with Sacamento for No. 7
WWGMD?
And Keith wonders
Keith_Langlois Keith Langlois
If true, does it suggest Hammond knew he had to get ahead of Pistons?
WWGMD?
I don't think the Bucks would take biyombo at 7....
I think they’d take Thompson or Leonard.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I agree
Bucks take Thompson…Bimbo is gone at 5 yahtzeeee
no...Raptors are going Knight Vision.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I read somewhere yesterday
That the interest displayed towards Thompson by early lottery picks was to entice late lottery picks to trade. This makes sense if true.
WWGMD?
yeah I'm trying to sort out how the Bucks, Bobcats, and Kings would swap picks
I’m sure players/other picks are involved…but I’m assuming the following:
Sacramento goes to Charlotte, Charlotte goes to Milwaukee, Milwaukee goes to Sacramento. Sacramento also gets Charlotte’s 19th overall.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
WojYahooNBA Adrian Wojnarowski
Milwaukee has a three-way deal with Charlotte and Sacramento, sources say.
WWGMD?
well that screws things up...
but if those 3 teams are swapping picks, it means that no one is dealing with Houston since Charlotte and Milwaukee were the most likely candidates to deal with Houston…14 and 23?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
The breakdown according to Ford
chadfordinsider Chad Ford
Deal: Bucks get Beno, Stephen Jackson 9 & 19. Bobcats get pick 7 & Maggette. Kings get 10 & John Salmons.
WWGMD?
YES YES YES!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
That's mostly accurate...
… except the Bobcats keep their #9 pick to go along with the #7 acquired in the deal. They now have both picks that sandwiches the Pistons pick.
by Kruza on Jun 23, 2011 4:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
This is getting too complex for me. I’m just going to listen to Eddie Palmieri and hope that today will be Un Día Bonito for Los Pistones.
I'm honestly afraid that anything that happens that doesn't include us getting Biyombo will send me into a furious rage...
I realize that logically, swapping for 2 later 1st rounders is very appealing but my heart has been set on Biyombo for so long that anything else will be disappointing. good thin the mrs. is coming home late this evening due to work happy hour. She’ll get there just in time to hold my hair back.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I refuse to live in a world without art.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Bright Side is
we get a basketball player that contribute from day 1, or possibly two if we trade rather then Lil Thabeet
the comparisons between Thabeet and Biyombo are a joke.
Thabeet has no lateral quickness, no explosiveness, and no drive to excel.
And anyone who can block shots, rebound, and defend can contribute on day 1 when playing for the team that allowed the best opposing FG%, and was near dead last in blocked shots and rebounding.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jun 23, 2011 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
we were last (30th)
in rebounding, blocks, and defensive FG%
well nba scouts..
sure thought Thabeet was worthy enough to be picked top 5 and contribute from day one on the defensive side of the ball also..But your right, Biyombo is a slam dunk because he is more muscular I guess
by JaySoul on Jun 23, 2011 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
concurs with the man whose hand is now raised.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Is that dude in the green helping him dunk
by Piztonz on Jun 23, 2011 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
he's trying to scratch and sniff Biyombo's armpit in hopes of obtaining some of Dunkessence.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jun 23, 2011 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
oh I can see that now thanks for clarifying
by Piztonz on Jun 23, 2011 4:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
we covered this already
i one of the many biyombo threads. I’d find it and link it but there are too many threats and too many dunk shot photos.
the ONLY reason
Thabeet was dominant in the Big East is because he was soo much taller and longer than everyone else. He had no skill set that made him stand out. Any scout that thought he would be a defensive force in the NBA was silly. His elite level defense failed twice a year to stop dejuan blair, who was 7 inches shorter than him. Blair is now a bench/rotation player, but not a stud.
Thabeet was never going to be No. 2 material.
chill
just trying to find out why the out of control obsession with DJ Mbenga…nothing serious, this is draft talk
I'm just going to start referring to you as Ralph 2.0. Cool?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Jun 23, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
Be silent! Keep your forked tongue behind your teeth, JaySoul.
Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.
Mbenga?
Oh, I get it, because every player from Africa is exactly the same. I find that insinuation very offensive.
by Bismack Biyombo on Jun 23, 2011 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
smh .. sorry that i’m not a fan of Bismack sir
by JaySoul on Jun 23, 2011 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
we're sorry too Ralph 2.0.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
FYI
Detroit was built on TEAM defense..Ben Wallace wasn’t Dikembe Mutumbo’esque! The team was great defensively as a unit with Ben heart an hustle cleaning up. Stop it with the Biyombo is the 2nd coming of the GREAT Ben Wallace..thats plain disrespectful
by JaySoul on Jun 23, 2011 4:33 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
If one more motherfucker knocks ben wallace im going to personally
go APE SHIT.
http://www.basketball-reference.com/leaders/def_rtg_season.html
hes not a Dikembe true, hes way better
Number 1 vs Number 37
by Danny D on Jun 23, 2011 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
who said Biyombo is sure to be the second coming of Ben Wallace?
And furthermore, I agree with you that the team defense was great for Detroit but in actuality, Rip, Chauncey, and Tay’s defensive ratings were sub 100 only 1 season (03-04) out of their entire career. Meanwhile, Ben has had a sub 100 D-Rating for 11 out of 16 seasons in the NBA. To add to that, Rip, Billups, and Tay barely broke 100 sporting 99 or 98 D-Ratings. Ben’s D-Rating in the same season? 87. The best D-Rating for a single season ever. So the greater likelihood is that Ben’s interior defense actually bolstered his teammates defensive ratings as opposed to the entire team truly playing great defense.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I can agree with that..just players like Ben dont come around often, and to hear his name dropped constantly with Dasagna Diop 2.0 is crazy to me
You didn't answer Boourns' question.
Who said Biyombo is sure to be the second coming of Ben Wallace?
These boards
If you go through the threads you will see he is Ben-like quite often, and that is why I believe people are fascinated by the guy
People are fasscinated by the idea of having an explosive freak of nature who loves doing the dirty work that Pistons fans wish this team would get back to, yes.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Pistonz, there is obviously 2 s's in fasscinating, ssee?
:-)
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
YEAH!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
to hear you constantly refer to a guy as Yinka Dare 2.0, Diop 2.0, or Thabeet 2.0
is equally crazy to me. Are there similarities in race, cultural background, geographic location, core abilities (dunks, blocks. boards), and accent? Certainly. But were this draft not coming on the front of a potential lockout, Biyombo likely wouldn’t even be in discussion in the lottery.
In fact none of the players we’re discussing likely would be. So to point at any single player and claim he’s sure to be a bust is infuriating.
I agree with you though that the comparisons to Ben Wallace or even Serge Ibaka at this point do nothing more than build up expectations to unfair levels. That said, there is no reason to assume that he couldn’t end up being close to the kind of defender that Ben Wallace was given he’d be working directly with him for at least the next year if not longer.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Uncertainty
With so much uncertainty, I would just rather not roll the dice on someone who I feel is going to be bang or bust and nowhere near in between.
okay well who do you think will be available that doesn't have almost the exact same level of bang or bust potential?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
sorry...I'm still at work, grabbing lunch with the boss, leaving early, heading to the store, buying at least 4 bombers, and heading home to start funkin
gonna be straight up drunk by the time #8 is called. Already got my happy picture and my righteous fury picture prepped for posting.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
since I have an opinion that is different from yours, I’m a troll?! smh, chill your better then that
It is not your opinion, it’s your manner. Belittle our opinion by comparing our preferred player to a bunch of bums shall be met with wizard pictures, Dorothy.
Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.
by Mike Payne on Jun 23, 2011 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
IMO
If were at 8, I say take Knight, Kanter, or Leonard whoever is still on board. Draft is pretty bad, and I think it has decent value in later picks actually. If that Houston trade is true, I would be on board with that also
Knight and Kanter won't be and I don't see how either one of those strikes you as a sure thing
Kanter hasn’t played in a year and has only worked out for teams and Knight is arguably one of the most inefficient PGs in the draft. Meanwhile, Leonard is a PF trapped in a SFs body, but doesn’t have the extended range to contribute.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Agree to Disagree
Kanter is a true 7 footer that has some offensive capability also. NO he’s not Hakeem, but he did drop 30+ at the Hoop Summit..Defensive he isn’t Ben I know that, but defense to me is an attitude and effort entrenched by the coach (ie: see Chicago). Brandon Knigh has the size an athleticism to be darn good down the road. He is only 19, and very solid between the ears. Kawhi is somwhere Stephen Jackson/ Gerald Wallace.. his jumper will continue to get better as it did this year. Replacing Prince with him wouldnt be bad in my eyes
from what ive read about knight i wouldnt mind him
he wont be there but he will prolly be a nice player. i am basing this solely on what i have read about him.
Kanters an unknown to an extent
scouts say he can fill it up, but thats based on him playing against sub par competition, big concerns with him seem to be defense and whether or not he has any sort of BB IQ. he may be completely ineffectual on D. no one knows.
Wait
you’re okay with picking Rasho Nesterovich Jr., who has zero available data about him, yet you claim “uncertainty” about Bismack Biyombo? And are you talking about the Hoop Summit where Biyombo grabbed a triple double?
Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.
Let me rephrase it for you Mike..He dropped 34 on Jared Sullinger’s head at the Hoop Summit, and he would of been a top 3 pick this year. I dont know how he is defensively, could be atrocious…If you want to call him Rasho, then go for it sir…more power to ya
i think it comes down to people feeling better about taking an unknown scorer over and unknown defender
they both have problem spots but Kanter can score the ball so even if his defense is terrible, which it reportedly is, people will over look it for his O. good luck with that Brook Lopez 2.0.
I would rather gamble on a possibly game changing defensive talent and then build a team around that. but that would never work would it…
It’s not that I don’t think Darko Milicic Jr. doesn’t have potential, I’m just calling you on your bullshit— praising one completely unknown while considering the other guy, who has a statistical record, wreaks of “uncertainty”.
Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.
by Mike Payne on Jun 23, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Why not?
Would you rather roll the dice in a draft where there are more sure-fire prospects? Most of the people on this board wouldn’t be all about drafting Biyombo if it weren’t for that fact that this is a shit draft. If you’re going to take a risk, now’s the time.
Ill tell you about rolling the dice.
Put 25 on crap, grab em dueces up, and snap your wrist like you’re packin a tin.
Biyombo is not crap.
by Roll The Dyess on Jun 23, 2011 5:12 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I don’t get the whole “safe” pick in the pistons spot. We are not a safe pick away from being good. Nor are we in a position to pick a “safe” player that will turn out to be a for sure starter or all-star. The only “safe” pick at the number 8 spot would be for a for sure roll player who at best is a fringe starter/6th man and we already have a team full of those. Why not take a guy who at worst will bring energy, blocks and rebounds from the bench and at best has the possibility of being a game changer on defense if you have the chance? I guess you would rather take a “safe” player who shoots 42% from the field and has an assist to TO rating of 1.33 at PG that won’t even be around at the 8th pick?
Why not take a guy who at worst will bring energy, blocks and rebounds from the bench and at best has the possibility of being a game changer on defense if you have the chance?
So basically you’ve cemented him as an success with this statement..
I’m getting close to losing my shit hear, JaySoul.
Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.
by Mike Payne on Jun 23, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
YA HERD?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
misHERE'd
unhere’d of
Antlers and Horns......
by alaskanpistonsfan on Jun 23, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I recommend this post to other readers
Because the photograph of the unfortunate looking gentleman with a mustache that makes him look like a tusk-less walrus made me laugh audibly, and had others been near be at the time they would be curious as to what wit could cause such a guffaw.
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