The other guys: Kyle Singler and Vernon Macklin
The vast majority of DBB's post-draft coverage has focused on Brandon Knight, but as I clear my notebook from Saturday's press conference, there are a couple of tidbits about Kyle Singler and Vernon Macklin. (This may be repetitive if you actually watched the presser -- I didn't have a chance to speak with Singler or Macklin one-on-one. But since I already transcribed this stuff, I may as well toss it up.)
• Detroit's front office got a good look at Macklin during a workout in Auburn Hills last Monday, mere days before the draft. His performance against more highly-touted competition sealed his status on Detroit's draft board. "Vernon was in to workout with [Bismack] Biyombo, Tristan Thompson, Keith Benson, Markieff Morris, and he was a warrior during the workout -- just an absolute warrior," Joe Dumars said.
"Physical, strong, defended well, scored the ball in the low post. And it was a guy that fits 'Detroit Basketball,' we like tough, hard-nosed guys here. And all of these guys are tough, hard-nosed ... Thats our stamp, that's who we are, that's who we've been, that's when we've been at our best. So when he came in and showed the way he did, we looked at him and said, 'Listen, if this guy is on the board at 52, if he's still there, that'd be an excellent pick for us."
Macklin explains his mindset during the workout: "I came in here and I wanted to play hard every possession. It was some great guys I was playing up against, so I just wanted to go in there and play physical, crash the boards and try to score in the low post. And I think I did a great job in doing so, and that's what helped me out today."
• All three picks are on Twitter: @Vernon_Macklin, @KyleSingler and @BrandonKnight12. (I wonder how long Knight waits to change his username to reflect the new jersey number.)
• You can tell Singler played a leading role for four years at a major school: in terms of body language, he looked the most comfortable in front of a microphone -- perhaps because he's so well-versed in keeping answers short, boring and predictable.
Case in point: Singler, do you think playing at a major school like Duke helped prepare you for the NBA? "Yeah, I had a great career at Duke. Over [the] course of my career, I feel like I got better as a basketball player and I felt like I matured as a person, too. I feel like coming [in] I'm ready to play and I'm ready to help the Pistons win."
Do you regret not leaving school as a junior when you were projected to go higher in the draft? "I don't. After going through my senior year and just looking back on it, I would have regretted not experiencing the things that I experienced in my senior year. So I have no regrets."
How does it feel that fellow prospect Chris Singleton called you his toughest cover? "Chris is a great defender, just a great player, so I feel honored that he would consider my name. So it just shows the respect that I feel with Chris and he shares with me."
• Random side note: Hickory High's similarity scores for Singler might reveal why Dumars and Co. were attracted to Singler. Based solely on stats, the player whose college performance most closely resembled Singler's was ... Tayshaun Prince, followed by Wilson Chandler, Donte Green and, ahem, Terrico White. Pretty interesting.
• What about Brandon Knight? Ben Gordon, followed Aaron Brooks, Luke Ridnour and O.J. Mayo.
• Greg Monroe on Singler and Macklin: "Kyle brings that toughness, the ability to play multiple positions ... When you have somebody with versatility, that's always a help. Vernon is another inside presence, he can score in the low post, he protects the rim. So all these guys can bring something to the team that can help us. "
• Joe Dumars pounded the message home time and again that all three rookies are "high character guys," beginning early in his opening remarks. "We think that these guys epitomize what we're all about. These are some high character guys. These are some very smart players. All three of them are tough guys. Brandon told me he's tough -- even though he's a little slim guy, he told me he's tough, so we believe that. There is no question about Kyle and Vernon's toughness.
"But by and large, what I'm saying is that these guys epitomize what we're about going forward. These are some good people. These guys have been raised the right way. They're families have done an incredible job with them. And we're happy to have these guys represent us on a daily basis. This is professional sports, and in professional sports you want to get the right type of people for your organization, so these guys I have no doubt will represent the Detroit Pistons in the right way."
But did Dumars focus more on character than talent? He says no.
"A lot of times you come to press conferences after a draft and you're like, 'Oh,I didn't think the guy was going to be there when we drafted,'" he said. "But truly with these guys, Brandon was not supposed to be there at 8, Kyle was supposed to be gone in the late first round and Vernon was supposed to go before 52," he said.
"So it's not like we had some guys that are more talented than those guys and we passed on them. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good; we were lucky on draft night that those guys fell and were still on the board when we picked, and it wasn't even a discussion in the room when the draft unfolded and we saw who was coming to us ... we knew, we're taking these guys, they're good basketball players, they also happen to be extremely high character guys as well."
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I've been a Duke fan since the Grant Hill days. (Most nine-year-olds are bandwagon ass cats.)
I’m no apologist – I thought JJ Redick was a douche, too – but Singler does have a skill set that could translate well to the NBA in terms of a second-unit offensive role player and decent defender of multiple positions. That’s pretty good for a second-round draft pick in a seemingly down year.
However, like most Duke guys, there’s really not about which to get overly excited.
People thought the same thing about Psycho T
They thought his numbers couldn’t translate to the NBA. He’s the Jonas of his team now. It took him a little while, but I could see Singler following the same sort of path.
The Difference being that Hansbrough put up superb numbers in college
Hansbrough averaged 20 points per game on 12 attempts for his career at North Carolina. Unlike Singler, he put up big numbers and did it efficiently (the only year his TS% was below .600, it was .599). I don’t think Singler is a lost cause, but Hansbrough doesn’t seem like the best comparison to make.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Jun 27, 2011 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions
dukies
i hate duke..fricken christian lattttttteneerrr.dont care to spell his name right. look up this! mike gminski, the only dukie to win a nba championship. most dukies suck or are average in the pros. lets hope the kid named kyle is different
by amazenhazen2 on Jun 27, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Impressive
But I’d rather have Jon Brockman.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Jun 27, 2011 12:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I love that the top rated comment on the first video is
“best player in the country”
Good to know.
This signature is false.
Vernon Macklin
kill some shit.
sincerely, the founding member of The Society For The Appreciation Of New Piston Vernon Macklin
(TSFTAONPVM)
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
by Skylar on Jun 27, 2011 1:27 PM EDT reply actions 4 recs
here here!
Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.
by Mike Payne on Jun 27, 2011 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Arch secretary of treasury and defense Payne
what of the welcome ballons and t shirts. I have checked the clubs mailbox and find nothing more than the electricity bill and a coupon for lawn care.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
I recommend this post
to all other members
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Jun 27, 2011 5:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Check out the Kool-Aid
"I see myself being a low-post guy, scoring the ball around the low post, just a dirty work guy," said Macklin, who measured at 6-foot-10 at Portsmouth with a 7-foot-1 wing span. "I want to come in here and make sure there’s no letup when Greg comes out of the game or Ben (Wallce) comes out. I just want to make sure the intensity level stays the same or goes even higher. I’m going to come in here and play hard on every possession – that’s what I did to get here and I’m going to keep doing the same thing.
The more I read about them, the more I like. The more stats I look at, the more I dont.
Can the intensity levels really get much higher than this?

NFZ.
by garrettelliott on Jun 27, 2011 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Ben Wallace : intensity :: Garrett Elliott : nice
by -PS- on Jun 27, 2011 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Hair, Hair
Antlers and Horns......
by alaskanpistonsfan on Jun 28, 2011 3:12 AM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
"Dirty Work"
Good nickname I think.
That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice
He had the highest sensurgency score of anyone in the draft...
Probably because he’s 30.
Why does Singler's hair always look like a wet mop?
"There is nothing like a wise phrase or quote to help convince others that your decision makes sense." - Anon
"If you're ever in a fair fight, then your tactics suck." ಠ_ಠ
only if the tweet reads
“What’s Crack-a-lacklin, Macklin?” or
“Macklin, do you think of yourself as a baby-eater? Know what I mean, VERN…ON?” or
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I hope JoD pounding home high character guys
means that low character guys are getting shipped out of town
On to similarity scores: Kyle Singler =Tayshaun Prince – defense -rebounds +threes?
There was also that one time

by excellent dinosaur on Jun 27, 2011 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions 6 recs
Awesome photo shop
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Whoa.
It’s like I was there when that happened!
by garrettelliott on Jun 27, 2011 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i'm hopin
for some jerebko style magic from one or both of these guys. we need fresh un-jaded enthusiasm and here’s hopin these guys bring it, especially after the debacle that was half of the team openly laughing at Kuester
I smell a troll
I really hope Wallace takes Macklin under his wing
I bet if he works on his body with half the intensity that Ben does, Macklin will be a good pro
Welcome... to the Wallace-hood
Case in point: Singler, do you think playing at a major school like Duke helped prepare you for the NBA? “Yeah, I had a great career at Duke. Over [the] course of my career, I feel like I got better as a basketball player and I felt like I matured as a person, too. I feel like coming [in] I’m ready to play and I’m ready to help the Pistons win.”
This sounds like one of the answers you give on NBA 2K11 after the game in “My Player” mode.
by Alex_Be on Jun 28, 2011 7:41 AM EDT reply actions 1 recs

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