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Projecting Brandon Knight's rookie production

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Kevin Pelton, writing for ESPN Insider, has come up with projected stat lines for next year's class of rookies using a formula that combines objective data (including college stats, strength of schedule and last year's offensive pace for their new team) and educated guesses (namely, playing time). How does Brandon Knight fare? Better than you might expect

Brandon Knight: 24.0 mpg, 8.0 ppg, 2.7 apg, 2.2 rpg

Knight gets plugged into the combo guard role played by Tracy McGrady for the Pistons a year ago. As compared to his predecessors at the point for John Calipari (Rose, Wall and Tyreke Evans), Knight is not nearly as ready to contribute immediately -- especially as a passer. The upside is that all of those players significantly outperformed their rookie-year projections because the NBA's rules regarding contact on the perimeter made them dangerous off the dribble.

If you trust Pelton's formula (I'm curious what kind of shooting numbers he projects), the key variable is playing time. Knight could easily eclipse 24 minutes a game if he's installed as a starter, but that's a big "if". Without a playbook for summer reading, without any coaching at summer league and with a (likely) shortened training camp, Knight's learning curve will be steep early in the season -- as would any teenager's with just one season of college under his belt.

Greg Monroe was able to do what he did last year by simply reacting to the play -- as he told me following Knight's introductory press conference, "They didn't really have any plays called for me." But as a point guard, Knight won't have that luxury. With that in mind, I suspect 24 minutes a game might be Knight's ceiling as a rookie, at least until/unless Joe Dumars clears up minutes by eliminating some of the competition in the backcourt. 

Random aside that may or may not be worth considering: Rodney Stuckey averaged 19.0 minutes as the No. 3 guard his rookie season in 2007-08, playing on a squad with much more clarity of roles.

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Maybe his summer playbook reading should be replaced

Replaced with watching Pistons games from years the original series Knight Rider aired, from 1982-86.

"Don't know whatcha got, 'til it's goooonnnee..."

by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jul 6, 2011 3:34 AM EDT reply actions  

He could do a lot worse than studying early Isiah, that’s for sure.

by Matt Watson on Jul 6, 2011 3:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't want to be the one to put a comparison out there

How’s he gonna live up to that!?

Do you have Isiah’s rookie numbers? Anyone?

"Don't know whatcha got, 'til it's goooonnnee..."

by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jul 6, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stay away from

Lindsey Hunter’s offensive gameplan.

by wennington on Jul 6, 2011 4:30 AM EDT reply actions  

The words "combo guard" make me sad

Also, I wonder what T-Mac will do this year (assuming there are some NBA games).

by Toledo Joe on Jul 6, 2011 8:29 AM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't say this is too much to expect

Crowded back court, new coach, undefined roles, bad team chemistry, no summer league, all arel tough for a rookie to adapt to. But a guy that likes to shoot the 3, and has a clear place on a team where few players are expected to stay beyond the current season? Seems about right to me. I would love to see the assists and rebounds go higher (as well as some steals), but 8 points are more then enough for a rookie.

by C$ on Jul 6, 2011 10:15 AM EDT reply actions  

Optimistic

both in terms of minutes and production.

Rodney Stuckey averaged 19.0 minutes as the No. 3 guard his rookie season in 2007-08, playing on a squad with much more clarity of roles.

It is unlikely this 19 year old rookie will immediately outplay Stuckey, Bynum, Gordon, or Rip. So until one of those guys are moved, or Jod makes it known to the new coach that he should play no matter what, he is the No. 5 guard likely getting spot minutes at best.

Here is my prediction (unless a guard is traded):

Brandon Knight: 12.0 mpg, 3.5 ppg, 1.5 apg, 1.0 rpg, 41% fg.

Ugh.

by waulie on Jul 6, 2011 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

My god

Guys Please stop worrying about the number of guards we currently have on the roster. Someone WILL be traded or Rip will get bought out of his contract. Relax guys and let’s support our PIstons while they rebuild..This goes for you too Payne in my…

by Roco on Jul 6, 2011 11:22 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

“pistons” this damn IPhone

by Roco on Jul 6, 2011 11:23 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Two problems, Roco:

(1) As obvious as the guard problem is, we’ve been waiting for over a year for Detroit to solve it, and it hasn’t been solved. Drafting Knight just made it worse, at least until they make a move or two.

(2) Making a move isn’t as easy as saying, “oh we have a new owner, now we can make moves.” Rip and Gordon have really bad contracts that it will be hard to get any takers for. It’s unlikely the rest of the league is salivating over getting Stuckey — at best he would be a good third guard to bring off the bench, and that’s not exactly the hardest spot to fill in the NBA.

I would like to think that drafting Knight means that JOD MUST have a plan, another shoe to drop, etc. But unfortunately I’m not sure.

by Toledo Joe on Jul 6, 2011 11:34 AM EDT up reply actions  

This

The guard jam-up has been a problem for YEARS now, as in multiple seasons, without getting resolved.

I’d like to think that “handcuffs off” Joe D can finally get himself out of the mess he created, but I’ve been waiting too long, and I’ll believe it when I see it.

by Big Z in Orlando on Jul 6, 2011 11:39 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Believe That Problem Will Be Solved

Because if and when the season starts/resumes, if Knight is still the #5 guard, y;all can go shopping for a new GM.

In the land of milk and honey you must put them on the table...

by V. on Jul 6, 2011 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree with your second point

It will not be easy at all,but I’ sure a deal can/will be done.

Option 1- Suckey’s 1 yr deal will be attractive to some teams. So maybe we can use him as trade bait along with lets say Wilcox,and we get a unproven Big in return with an attractive contract. I still say that Ripper still has some game in him,ONLY if Knight has the ability to find him off curls and spoon feed him. This way BG can continue to come off the bench,because he seems to be comfy with that. Yes he is making the dough of a starting player,but at least he won’t bitch and moan about not starting.

Option 2- We can find a team who may want to clear some cap space. So they get Ripper and buy out his contract in return we get a big. He doesn’t have to be great but as long as he is productive.

I am not agreeing with your first point (respectfully) because we needed a PG in a major way. You’re a devoted Pistons fan so I don’t have to remind you that Suckey LOST his PG duties to a small forward last year. And MFWB didn’t get the starting spot because let face it,he is just a decent backup PG. So getting Knight was a blessing to us. He was the best player left on the board,so we nabbed him up. Will this kid be our center piece to build around? Not sure,time will tell. But I do know that when rebuilding a team you start at the 1 and build around that.

by Roco on Jul 6, 2011 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

BG better at the two, yada yada yada…get rid of him.

In the land of milk and honey you must put them on the table...

by V. on Jul 6, 2011 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

As the brothers Boondock once said,

ROCCO!

Wilcox is a free agent, therefore we cannot trade him unless we re-signed him first. The odds of us getting away with retaining Stuckey on a qualifying offer with his newly acquired agent being Leon Rose in my opinion is slim.

As for Rip, spoon feeding him off curls is what has kept this team in a boring, slow-paced, unproductive offense for the past 2 years. It will also prevent us from maxing Monroe’s potential.

With regards to Ben Gordon, what about his numbers would seem to indicate to you that he is comfortable coming off the bench? His production has been terrible, and the only way he can prove to be productive is by getting 16+ shots per game.

Lastly, Stuckey lost his PG duties to a SF because of his attitude, not because of his ability. Even with playing SG for a big portion of the season, he still led the team in assists per game. And after some of his best games at PG, he was relegated to the bench.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 7, 2011 1:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hear ya Boourns

I am aware that Wilcox is a FA,and I was thinking maybe re-signing him and packaging him up with Suckey would be a good idea. I could be wrong,just a thought lol.

Now I disagree with the Rip situation. Rip hasn’t been playing his game since Billups was traded..Why? Because there was no PG to get him the ball when he comes off those curls. No one to find him like Billups did. I admit it was boring,but it was effective. Lately Rip has been trying to find his own shot and that’s just not his game,he is a catch and shoot type of player.So we need a leader to let him know “Hey Rip.. keep running around those screens man and when you curl I will find you.” You have to get the ball to Rip just right “Spoon feed” and Suckey used to zip the ball in there too low,too high,and/ or too hard throwing Rip’s shooting motion off,forcing him to use that weak ass crossover of his trying to create his own shot. At times even T-Mac would get the ball to Rip and there were flashes of success there last season.

When I said BG was “comfy” coming off the bench I was talking about when he played for Chicago as the 6th man and had some success with that. Maybe he will perform better this way. I don’t know just a thought,but his decline in play is mental I’m sure.

As far as Suckey you just said yourself he played SG a big portion of the season bro. That means aside from his attitude,he still lost that spot to a SF. So my point about him and MFWB not having what it takes to be a starting floor general in the NBA is still standing,and the reason we needed a PG in a major way.

With all due respect of course. :)

by Roco on Jul 7, 2011 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

I am aware that Wilcox is a FA,and I was thinking maybe re-signing him and packaging him up with Suckey would be a good idea. I could be wrong,just a thought lol.

Under the most recent CBA, this is impossible.

by brgulker on Jul 7, 2011 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm curious

Why is this impossible? A player has to stay with the team he signed to for x amount of time or something?

by Roco on Jul 7, 2011 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

you can’t sign-and-trade a player and package him with other out-going talent under the last CBA.

Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.

by Mike Payne on Jul 7, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

What Mike said. I believe the date after which newly-signed FA’s could be traded was December 15. I would assume something similar will make it into the new CBA.

by brgulker on Jul 7, 2011 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stuckey didn’t lose his spot to McGrady, a coach that had no right coaching made a dumb roster shift at a time when Stuckey was actually starting to pass the ball with a purpose.

And our offense has continued to operate in a fashion where Rip runs off endless screens. I’d leave it to MFMP with his synergy sports credentials to tell me otherwise, but my guess is that Rip’s % of catch and shoot opportunities hasn’t declined all that much since Billups left.

As for Gordon, I agree with you that I’m sure some aspect of his under-performance is mental, but you speak as if gordon has been starting consistently and moving hiim back to the bench would be advantageous. In actuality, Gordon started relatively few games for the Pistons last year so his comfort level coming off the bench for Detroit (not chicago) is definitely in question.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 7, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’d leave it to MFMP with his synergy sports credentials to tell me otherwise, but my guess is that Rip’s % of catch and shoot opportunities hasn’t declined all that much since Billups left.

Sadly, Synergy’s data reach is new, meaning that they don’t provide access to years prior to the season before last. However, it is important to note that according to Synergy, Gordon has been better off-the-catch than Hamilton has for the last two years running— and significantly so.

Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.

by Mike Payne on Jul 7, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

which is interesting in itself considering Gordon was not known for his catch and shoot but more for his isolation/creation

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 8, 2011 2:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Roco, re my first point

I appreciate the respect, but I don’t think we actually disagree as to whether we’re set at PG with Stuckey. I’m not sold on him at that position. My point was only when you have a glut at guard, drafting another guard is bad in the short term. Plus I keep hearing Knight described as a “combo guard” (as opposed to a pure PG) which just makes me want to beat myself in the head with a 2×4.

I mean, after Knight was drafted, Stuckey was talking about being excited about playing in the backcourt with him, and I was all like, “wait, don’t you both play the same position, at least in theory?”

Hey, maybe Knight will be a really good PG. Or maybe Stuckey will turn into one. I’m just not assuming either will, and I think the glut of guards (remember Bynum?) will make that harder to figure out.

by Toledo Joe on Jul 7, 2011 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Backup Roco

you’re standing on my dick.

Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.

by Mike Payne on Jul 6, 2011 12:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

You mean
Backup Roco

you’re standing on my ex girlfriend’s strap-on. She used to used it on me,and that’s why they call me PAYNE!! God I miss her “sniff sniff”

by Roco on Jul 6, 2011 9:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

wut?

I would have gone with

“Backup Roco

you’re standing on my poop-dick. Ramon was just too much man for me last night so I gave in after 3 Red Irish Ales and a cosmo. But on the brightside, our marriage means I save money on taxes!"

Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.

by bearded thundar on Jul 6, 2011 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Yeah that's funny as hell.

Good one man. But I thought I would take it easy on the poor guy. Just jabs for now :)

by Roco on Jul 7, 2011 10:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

oh, burn.

Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.

by Mike Payne on Jul 6, 2011 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, sir

I think they’re saying “Bou-urns”.

by C$ on Jul 7, 2011 9:56 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I was saying...mumble mumble...

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 7, 2011 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whether a guard (or two) is traded is the big issue here

waulie is right that currently, by ability, he would be the #5 guard (and that’s assuming T-Mac doesn’t come back AND that Terrico White either doesn’t sign with Detroit or isn’t better than Knight).

But waulie, assuming Knight is the #5 guard, how does a #5 guard get 12 minutes a game? Last year, Stuckey averaged 31 minutes, Rip 27.2, Bynum 18.4, and Gordon 26. That adds up to 102.6 minutes a game for guards. I know that these don’t constitute “an average game’s stats” because they include games where guys were starting when they normall wouldn’t because of injuries and suspensions. It’s also not counting T-Mac’s 23.4 minutes a game.

But where is Knight getting his minutes from? OK, Bynum probably won’t average 18 minutes a game, but I would think Stuckey, Rip, and Gordon (if they are all on the team) would play at least as many minutes as they did last year.

So Knight probably has to get his minutes from Bynum. And again, what about poor Terrico?

by Toledo Joe on Jul 6, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Easy Answer

There is going to be a ton of garbage time this year, and not in a good way.

by waulie on Jul 6, 2011 12:12 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I guess Stuckey is really the wild card since we don’t know if he’ll be back for sure. I think he will. If Stuckey stays, Tay doesn’t, and no other moves are made, I’m afraid we will be seeing Rip spending plenty of time at SF.

So, at the two guard spots:
Stuckey gets 30, Bynum gets 15, Rip gets 13, Gordon gets 26, and Knight gets 12.

Or, you could just divide them evenly at 19.2 mpg. Think how rested everyone would be. I’m sure they’ll all take it fine.

Ugh.

by waulie on Jul 6, 2011 12:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stuckey will be interesting...he's got Leon Rose as his agent now and that could spell all kinds of trouble for detroit

I could see Rose trying to get an idea of what JoD would pay Stuckey and conclude it would be no more than what Conley got from Memphis. Then, I could see him convincing another team to offer Stuckey something slightly under that just to force JoD’s hand. And then I can see JoD offering him that $7.5M a year contract that none of us want to see Stuckey get. :-(

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2011 1:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

If they play Rip at SF for any noticeable minutes next year

It will be a travesty. That was one of the worst parts of the “small ball” BS of a couple of years ago (well, that and Tay at PF). I will suppport, or at least completely understand, any attitude problems Rip has. And I will be one surly dude watching games.

by Toledo Joe on Jul 6, 2011 1:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t really care about his scoring and assist totals. What I’ll be watching most closely is shot selection. The more tape I’ve watched on him since we drafted him, the more I’ve noticed how much he forced the issue in college, and as a result, had a very modest shooting percentage.

If Knight can shoot above 35% from 3 and around 45% overall as a rookie, I would like him a whole lot more by the end of the year than I do now.

by brgulker on Jul 6, 2011 11:28 AM EDT reply actions  

Yeah...having not watched Kentucky play at all outside of the one game that decided my brackets (final 4)

I have no clue what kind of supporting role Knight had on his team but I know a number of Kentucky fans seemed to think he had to do it all on his own which is what resulted in all the forced shots, etc.

That said, Stuckey was in the exact same boat at Eastern Washington. He was a top tier D1 prospect who didn’t have the grades to get into a top tier D1 school. That resulted in him being head and shoulders above the rest of his team at EWU and ultimately resulted in him taking a lot more shots than he needed to. Of course, Stuckey still hasn’t quite grown out of this…

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2011 1:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am pretty well convinced that most of basketball is about habit, even in the NBA. I think this has lots of implications (especially with regard to coaching), but one is obviously related to shot selection. Habits are hard to break in general, but specifically in basketball. Given the fast-paced nature of the game, basketball is about reaction and instincts, as much as anything else. If one’s first instinctual reaction is to shoot — because that’s what you’ve done for your entire career — then it’s going to be a hard habit to break.

Hopefully, Knight is a better shooter than Stuckey, so his instinct to shoot will help more than hurt, and hopefully, we get a coach who can work with him on when to shoot and when to defer.

by brgulker on Jul 6, 2011 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya know who would have made a lot of sense?

Avery Johnson…or maybe Byron Scott.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2011 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m still not convinced that doing this for 48 minutes:

makes you a good coach.

by garrettelliott on Jul 6, 2011 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

thats about all you can do when you're the head coach of the cavs...

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2011 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Loved Scott As A Player

Too intelligent not to be a good coach.

In the land of milk and honey you must put them on the table...

by V. on Jul 6, 2011 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Speaking of T-Mac.

Apparently he had quite the meltdown on Twitter over the Casey Anthony verdict.

Some quotes:

TheReal_TMAC Tracy McGrady
cant believe they let this pig walk

TheReal_TMAC Tracy McGrady
this bitch made a mockery of the justice system!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

TheReal_TMAC Tracy McGrady
yup, plax will have done more time in jail for shooting his self then this bitch gone do for killin her kid

JUSTICE and CONVICTIONS, bring them to T-Mac.

Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...

by Trout Jefferson on Jul 6, 2011 2:54 PM EDT reply actions  

lol...reminds me, my buddy who has posted here very rarely but been a lurker for years just got banned from BlessYouBoys last night for posting this in the game thread:

^^^^^^^^^^^^l |^^^^^^^^^^| |P
| ♥~♥ JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE ♥~♥ ||""";..\_.
|……
_____________| l______________l ||_|…, ]P
"()’()"""""""*l’()l'()l """"""""""""""()'()""""’(@)
Put this on your status & Keep this Convoy Going

In a thread of over 600 comments, this one apparently got flagged for being inappropriate more times than any other post in the history of BlessYouBoys. Even better, supposedly people were SUPER pissed about it but because the Admins/Mods deleted the post, there is no evidence that anyone was actually pissed.

The best part was that the entire overflow thread also got deleted simply because people were discussing the fact that he got banned. I’m not sure how 1) people could be so pissed off aobut this especially considering he did it once, and in jest…2) how it would be considered inappropriate (off-topic sure…but isn’t 90% of baseball radio commentary more or less not related to the game being played because of how much down time there is?) and 3) that it caused so much angst among the community that they felt the need not only to delete the post but an entire overflow thread simply for mentioning the post.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2011 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t get the ASCII stuff. Naturally I see the “( )1’( )” and think “hmm, maybe titty fucking? but how is that relevant”. Am I missing something?

Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.

by Mike Payne on Jul 6, 2011 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks like a truck

An extremely pointless truck. Please don’t ban me for commenting on this!

"Don't know whatcha got, 'til it's goooonnnee..."

by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jul 6, 2011 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

ahhh!!

a truck!! i see it now!!!

Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.

by Mike Payne on Jul 6, 2011 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its not a schooner you idiot, its a sailboat.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2011 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup...its a pointless truck...for a case that is needlessly blown out of proportion

Meanwhile, more people are dying everywhere in much more extreme situations and they go completely unnoticed in the US.

I think its interesting how our US foreign policy of spending shitloads of money policing the world everywhere doesn’t match up with American societies interest in global current events.

For the most part, Americans only care about whats happening in America with the exception of the Royal Wedding and wars we’re involved in…

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

The attention the Anthony case received is mind-boggling to me

Why was this shit covered with such fervor? Like you said, the circumstances involved with the case, while undeniably tragic, are hardly unique in this country and there are far more relevant news stories that could have been covered during those thousands of hours of programming. Every second of it felt like shamelessly exploitative, sensationalist bullshit to me.

by Grant E. on Jul 6, 2011 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly had NO IDEA about this story until about two days ago.

Am I an asshole for being glad she’s innocent?

I wanted OJ to be acquitted, too.

by TDP on Jul 6, 2011 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am I an asshole for wondering if she does couples?

Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.

by Mike Payne on Jul 6, 2011 5:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stealing My Material Again, Son.

How is Scarlett’s these days?

In the land of milk and honey you must put them on the table...

by V. on Jul 6, 2011 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

patronize this.

Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.

by Mike Payne on Jul 6, 2011 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's South Florida, Not Tampa

where you can do Patron shots at strip clubs. Pity, too.

In the land of milk and honey you must put them on the table...

by V. on Jul 6, 2011 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

I listen to talk radio on my drive and first heard the story there.

I was appalled by the story itself, disappointed in the outcome, but disgusted with American culture giving this thing so much attention in the first place.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2011 5:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

There’s a lot of bars in Grand Rapids that show CNN Headline News in lieu of ESPN. EVERY SINGLE TIME I’ve seen that channel on in a bar in the last three years, some talking head was yammering on in righteous indignation. They seem to have covered it non-stop.

by Grant E. on Jul 6, 2011 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

I’m with you, TDP — we must live in the same bubble.

by Matt Watson on Jul 7, 2011 6:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Train, Not Truck

In the land of milk and honey you must put them on the table...

by V. on Jul 6, 2011 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Kurt plays it pretty fast and loose with the banhammer over at BYB

I like the cut of DBB’s jib when it comes to the various idiots that post stupid things homos, jackasses and non-sports fans: Let the community police itself and give ’em the pandas.

by Grant E. on Jul 6, 2011 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Was More Interested In The Nancy Grace Reaction

Because Nancy is just as bad as Casey, perhaps worse.

I saw it as manslaughter, not murder. Negligence is obvious here, but intent, too difficult to prove. But that didn’t stop the prosecution from seeking capital murder and the death penalty.

Let’s see, I live in Vegas and LA, have a business in South Florida, spend a lot of time in Houston. It’s a tossup which average local (between Vegas, Broward Co and Houston) is dumbest. My vote is for Vegas, but before you go off indicting the jury, do read this by Jeffrey Toobin.

Prosecutors, like what Ms. Grace used to be, are only interested in getting the win, and seek punishment way too often before justice. Moreover, the system is frequently stacked in their favor, where prosecutorial misconduct is frequently covered up by judges and law enforcement officials alike, after all, almost all criminal courts judges are former prosecutors.

If you want justice for Caylee, you file the correct charges, and don’t file for something you know you can’t prove, let alone beyond a reasonable doubt.. It’s really that simple. In the end, everyone may have gotten the verdict they deserved.

In the land of milk and honey you must put them on the table...

by V. on Jul 6, 2011 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nancy Grace is a scumbag

she’s a child death profiteer.

by dandresden on Jul 6, 2011 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

i don't even know how that's offensive.

How many children die every day, and how much do average people care? The obsession with this case baffles me.

by C$ on Jul 6, 2011 3:45 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

fortunately, Dan Dresden’s facebook status updates got me through it.

Got Hubie Brown's moms on speed dial.

by Mike Payne on Jul 6, 2011 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Can I Get A Sampling?

Since no one, not even myself, does sarcasm as well as DD does.

In the land of milk and honey you must put them on the table...

by V. on Jul 6, 2011 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

shhhhhhhhh

I might be working for Goldman Sachs….

/completely serious

Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.

by bearded thundar on Jul 6, 2011 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

“I recommend we get on board with Facebook. The Skype deal is going to have a great impact on their ad revenue and they’ve got the infrastructure in place to handle that surge, I think it’s going to open the door to working with Microsoft more in the future, their p/e ratio is lower than it ought to be, but most importantly Zuckerberg has really been working on his squats.”

by Shinons* on Jul 6, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I Am Thinking Of Going 21st Century And Getting An Account

The problem is, I really prefer the Old School method of communicating with our fellow human being. Preferably in a south Florida (or Detroit) strip club over a few shots of Patron. With TV sports on.

Seriously, I just don’t get how we communicate with each other today. It’s all blasts and no texture or nuance or substance. Also people who use that stupid exclamation point on the end, to try to make themselves more important. like as MP noted several months ago, Outback Steakhouse! I don’t get that at all. If you think there’s anything amazing about a 3rd tier steakhouse that masks its deficiencies by being from Australia, I have a capital murder jury pool seat open for you in Central Florida.

In the land of milk and honey you must put them on the table...

by V. on Jul 6, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

bro, you're talking to the guy who wore a white tuxedo to a 4th of july party

I totally get where you’re coming from, but rest assure even at my age I still understand the value of class

Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.

by bearded thundar on Jul 6, 2011 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

^This is my life.

WORD PLAY
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by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 7, 2011 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed my good man

But actually the reason why I wore said tuxedo was because I was getting married to dearest America that day

Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.

by bearded thundar on Jul 7, 2011 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

MS for the win BAYYYY BEEEE!

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 7, 2011 1:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Dan Dresden is the only person who came out of the Casey Anthony case winning. Every single one of those statuses was a master stroke.

WORD PLAY
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by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 6, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is so much fucking win in that post I don't even know if I can look at it.

I feel bad recc’ing your post MFBMM because its all MFDD, but since MFDD ain’t here, you’ll receive the rec on his behalf.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 6, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hopefully this doesn’t turn into a Dumb and Dumber situation where I spend all of his recs and then have to hand him a briefcase full of IOUs.

WORD PLAY
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by Biz Markie Moon on Jul 6, 2011 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Swimmy...Swamy....Swanson...check the briefcase!

SAMSONITE?!?!?! Man…I was WAY off.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Jul 7, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Since I Have A Bar License & DD Likely Doesn't

You can only imagine the contempt I have for her. I really thought she was going to pull a Regan Blair after the verdict came.

In the land of milk and honey you must put them on the table...

by V. on Jul 6, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

WASTE OF TIME

Not until the lock out is solved and we start seeing Knight’s minutes and role given by still unknown coach, all these are WASTE OF TIME to talk about.

by Erap Vidad on Jul 12, 2011 1:43 PM EDT reply actions  


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