What happens with the 2012 draft if there's a canceled season?
by Matt Watson on Aug 22, 2011 3:56 AM EDT
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PrintGood question. And the answer is ... nobody but David Stern really knows, and for obvious reasons, he's not talking about that right now.
One option that's been discussed by a lot of people is simply using the same lottery odds from the 2011 draft -- an idea which seems a bit crazy to me, not to mention the half of the league that didn't have a lottery ball this past season. TrueHoop's Kevin Arnovitz examines another possibility -- one that was actually used by the NHL when they were in this same situation several years ago:
Each of the 30 teams was rewarded three lottery "balls" to start the process, but lost one for each playoff appearance over the previous three seasons and for each time it had selected No. 1 overall in the previous four entry drafts. To make things interesting, the NHL guaranteed every team at least one ball, which means that elite teams that had qualified for every Stanley Cup playoff over the past several springs still had a shot for the No. 1 pick.
And rather than stopping after the selection of the first lottery ball and slotting the remaining 29 teams in order of record/results, the NHL ordered the entire draft based on lottery selection. After Pittsburgh's ball was selected No. 1 (guaranteeing the Penguins a shot at signing Sidney Crosby), Anaheim, Carolina, Minnesota and Montreal followed -- even though none of the four was a "3-ball" team.
If the 2011-12 NBA season were cancelled and the league opted for these criteria -- playoff appearances over the previous three seasons and No. 1 overall picks over the past four drafts -- here's how the 2012 draft lottery would be weighted:
3 balls: Golden State, Minnesota, New Jersey, Sacramento, Toronto
2 balls: Charlotte, Detroit, Houston, Indiana, Los Angeles Clippers, Memphis, Milwaukee, New York, Phoenix, Washington
1 ball: Atlanta, Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, Dallas, Denver, Los Angeles Lakers, Miami, New Orleans, Oklahoma City, Orlando, Philadelphia, Portland, San Antonio, Utah
I like it. Then again, I'm a bit of an anarchist when it comes to bucking tradition in favor of innovation. What do you think?
P.S. DBB has been stuck in the lockout doldrums the last couple of weeks, but we have some exciting news to share very soon. Stay tuned!
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Exciting news? What could it be?
MW and Garrett’s genetic experiment was a success? Joe Biden is going to officiate at MFMP’s wedding? Tom Gores is really a red panda in disguise?
by -PS- on Aug 22, 2011 7:52 AM EDT via mobile reply actions
Could we finally be resurrecting the "Who the Hell is this_____ guy anyway?" series?
My federal building is way cooler than your federal building.
Don't hold your breath...Mike Payne seems to be struggling with this bit since he does all his search via Google
Had he been searching via Bing, he would have had these done months ago if only because bing serves up a nifty link to Wikipedia. And as I’m sure all of you know, the DBB collective is clearly well known enough to each have their own wikipedia page.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Ironically, I just wrote five questions for the next one last night, and it will be coming this week :)
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
You’re all talk, Payne. We’ve heard all about the continuation of this series for months and you have nothing to show for it. Why should we believe you now?
My federal building is way cooler than your federal building.
by bugman222 on Aug 22, 2011 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
Seriously...he's like JoD...
just talking circles instead of basing his posts off of fact-based statistics and quantifiable measurements.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I take it back MP...no one deserves to be compared to JoD like that. NOBODY.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Aug 22, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
lol rec'd
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Aug 22, 2011 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, I’m taking my mulligan, boo boo!
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
and also
I literally just sent 10 questions to the next Who TF is ___________ guy anyway?
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
I hope it’s PS so I can finally find out what PS stands for.
by garrettelliott on Aug 22, 2011 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions
I’ve outed one really awesome musician here on DBB, I’d love to out that MFer too. Maybe I should ask if he’d like to be the next Who TF is ___________ guy anyway?
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
Just because I wear a tuque and enjoy Tim Hortons doesn’t mean I’m Canadian.
by -PS- on Aug 23, 2011 7:44 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don’t know if I’d want a V Interview. Either he’d shatter the myth or just make us all even more jealous of his ballin’ life.
WORD PLAY
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by Biz Markie Moon on Aug 23, 2011 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions
What about me? I'd love to brag about my awesome life.
My federal building is way cooler than your federal building.
Mad Men is a hell of a tv show, to the point that it distracted him for months but his wife disconnected the cable?
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Aug 22, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
by the way...I hate this idea
It seems ripe for conspiracy when there is such a small difference between the worst teams and best teams in the lottery as explained in the NHL scenario.
Realistically, the NBA could re-negotitae their rev sharing structure between big and little markets making the league as a whole more solvent, and then rig the lottery to get some of hte best teams into the top all to ensure that those teams can sell their tickets for even more, maintain a longer level of success, etc. Meanwhile, these super teams go on the road and sell tickets at the crappy venues but really all it becomes even more similar to the socio-economic class crisis that the United States is in with the greatest disparity between the best and everyone else.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
I'd prefer Stern just went all out villlan
If he just put the order of the draft as his preferred teams. That would be entertaining. Would look something like this, I’d think:
1. New York
2. LAL
3. Chicago
…
29. San Antonio
30. Detroit
31. Seattle
by Shinons* on Aug 23, 2011 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Make all the incoming rookies free agents.
The teams with cap room can then just offer them contracts of whatever size they feel the player is worth, like any other free agent. Maybe stipulate that every team has to sign at least one player, even if it’s just for the league minimum.
by Gabe F-B on Aug 22, 2011 6:38 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
This would be very, very interesting to me. If nothing else, and I think this is kind of a big thing, it would give us a totally unique perspective as to how teams value and/or evaluate incoming talent.
Of course, we do get that with the draft every year, but not nearly on this scale. E.g., what would JoD really sign Knight to if there were no minimum or maximum restraints of any sort.
I like it.
That type of lottery
seems like fun but I bet Sacramento would just pick the player we want anyway knowing our luck T.T
by Taiwanese Tora on Aug 22, 2011 8:35 PM EDT reply actions 3 recs
I always wondered how the draft would be
if a whole season was played by replacement/scab players. Because with replacement players you never know which team is going to be better than the other. You could have Minnesota & Golden State being the best teams and Boston & LA Lakers being the worst teams and if the lottery were to go off that than Boston & LA would get the top picks including their originals back when ever the lock out ended.
Deeeeeee-pressing Basketball!
Also, I don't see why there must be a lottery if there is no season.
An overwhelming amount of players entering the draft are underclassmen and it wouldn’t hurt to see them stay one more year in their respective college/country. I could see where this could be a problem if there were still a lot seniors being drafted like the NFL.
Deeeeeee-pressing Basketball!
Because if they were forced to go back to college they would simply continue to be slaves to the universities and make no money for themselves while earning their school millions.
My federal building is way cooler than your federal building.
by bugman222 on Aug 23, 2011 7:51 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
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