Detroit Pistons introduce Lawrence Frank
Lawrence Frank said all the right things while being introduced as the Detroit Pistons coach Wednesday afternoon, including a vow to change the team's culture.
"It starts with a work ethic," Frank said. "It starts with investment versus entitlement. I think you get yourselves in a lot of problems when you feel you deserve things without working for it. You have to earn you way every single day, so it's investment versus entitlement.
"It's about accountability. You have to do what you say you're going to do. Now, the head coach has to enforce the accountability. And confrontation is healthy -- it's not always a negative thing, but to teach [and] correct.
"I've been around seven Hall of Fame players -- every player I've been [around] wants their coach to challenge them and wants them to connect. So you have to demand but you also have to be fair. So I think with your values, it's one thing to have them, and it's a totally different thing to enforce them. And I think that falls on my shoulders and on the team's shoulders."
Regardless of wins and losses, the most disappointing aspect of last season was how unlikeable the roster had become. A team that once prided itself on "Going to Work" every single day literally and figuratively took days offs, blatantly disrespecting (and often flat-out ignoring) its head coach. While only time will tell how the roster responds to Frank, his direct manner with the media suggests passive aggressive feuds are a thing of the past.
So what will the present look like? Due to David Stern's inane rules about NBA employees even mentioning a player's name in public during the lockout, Frank was unable to address specific questions about the roster, but he did promise a return to Detroit's roots. "We’re going to be a defense-first team, a rebounding team, an attacking team, a low-turnover, high-assist team," he said, before later stressing it again: "You have to compete at both ends, but we’ll be defense-first."
Listening to Frank break down answers into bullet points (and watching him frequently count off talking points with his hands), I couldn't help but think about how often he's been lauded for being organized and prepared. One quick example: Frank explaining the qualities he looks for in an assistant coach, "One, high character. Two, work ethic. Three, energy and passion. Four, lifelong learner. ... Our staff has to embody what we are about, and those are the qualities we are looking for."
That doesn't sound like a man riffing his way out of an unexpected question (ie, Joe Dumars trying to explain late in the press conference what exactly happened the last few years). It comes across as something he's put a lot of thought into. He's a man with a plan -- albeit one who stressed the need for cooperation from the roster to turn the franchise around.
"It's the players, not the plays," he said. "There's an old adage in coaching: 'it's not about the Xs and Os, it's about the Jack and Joes.' ... When I first sat down with Joe, the first 15 minutes basically he was talking about Coach [Chuck] Daly, and what he was as a coach. And what he hit on was why Coach Daly was one of the greatest coaches ever: it's about meshing and managing personalities. It's about getting 12 to 15 independent contractors, so to speak, to buy into one vision.
"It's not about the Xs and Os. Now, does that play a part? Of course. I don't think that our playbook is any more extensive than any other playbook, it's about the guys you're coaching, it's about getting them to play together, it's about getting them to buy into a common vision about what we're going to be about.
"And you know what? It's easy to do it when you're winning, it's hard to do it when you're struggling. And that's why as a coach, you have to stand for what you believe in: this is who we are, this is what we do. And if not, there's gotta be accountability and consequences. That's coaching."
Dumars admitted in his introduction that "we are desperate to find a long-term coach," and Wednesday was certainly a promising start. I mean, c'mon: he had me at "Coach Daly" -- and again at "accountability" and "consequences." Talk is cheap in early August with a lockout threatening the very existence of the upcoming season, but like Packey said midway through the presser, Frank killed it in his first public appearance as Detroit's new coach.
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Investment v. Entitlement
New mantra right there.
by madpoopz on Aug 3, 2011 5:37 PM EDT reply actions 2 recs
Abso-FUCKING-lutely!
I’m all high on this press conference. Even though we don’t even know if we’ll have a season to watch.
Frank seems more realistic and open in his comments already by comparison to Kuester. Q seemed like he tried too hard to be “PC” and tip-toed around his word choices rather than just tell it how it is. Which I always felt was a contributing factor to the rebellion of last year. Anyways, I’m just rambling now…
AMEN
I liked how real he was too. He just seems to get it compared to the last two coaches. I also like how Joe D came clean on why he wasn’t making moves the past few years. I really hope theirs a season this coming year! Life would be so boring without some Deetroit basketball!
It’s about getting 12 to 15 independent contractors, so to speak, to buy into one vision.
Holy shit, Lawrence Frank is Stringer Bell.
This guy reminds me of my high school academic team because when he has something like “Jacks and Joes”, normally, I roll my eyes, but I can tell that that’s not the apex of his philosophy. It’s a parable, not a lesson, so to speak: the phrase means something, it’s not a cheap way to explain something. It’s just a point.
WORD PLAY
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I always wonder how much of Bobby Knight he's adopted
Certainly he doesn’t have the intimidation factor of The General, but seems a lot of Knight’s values are with there Frank: energy, not being afraid of confrontation, pushing accountability, prioritizing character, a fondness for swearing…
As to who he most reminds me of most though, I’ll just say this: he’s a little guy, he’s red, and he’s got an understated bear-like ferociousness.
by Shinons* on Aug 3, 2011 6:53 PM EDT reply actions 7 recs
definitely sounds good
I like what he had to say. I can’t comment with how Frank ran the Nets, but I read he did manage 4 playoff berths and he could have only have gotten better at his craft. Let’s hope this is another Carlisle type hire but with different results, back when Joe looked like he knew how to find a good coach.
He's killing it again on Fox Sports Detroit during Tigers game.
He loves talking about how ugly he is, too.

he also just repeated a joke...
“I was like a bad hollywood actor during high school basketball – all I’d hear was cut, cut, cut.”
and he just dropped Ben Wallace's name...
“That’ll cost us some money…”
by Packey on Aug 3, 2011 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 7 recs
Just like the Tmac signing in '10...
I am ready to just watch and see how the dice roll now that they have been blown and shaken…I like what he did in NJ, but he had players that were not exactly slouches that gave him the 13 straight victories…players that were ready to move on from the Scott era, if you would call it that, so not exactly thrilled but yet at the same time wishing that he will be able to provide all that have been said and even some flashes of straight victories. I would have been more excited to see Laimbeer get the nod, but that may have alot to do with the fannerism i have for the ’Stones…so having said all that, good luck GOOD LUCK AND BEST WISHES Coach Frank
Antlers and Horns......
by alaskanpistonsfan on Aug 3, 2011 10:12 PM EDT reply actions
Moving on from the Palace Prince
to the Knight of Palace, Coach, I hope you gouge the opposition with Antlers and Horns.
Antlers and Horns......
by alaskanpistonsfan on Aug 3, 2011 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions
yes
and I hope you are far, far from the last! Rec’d.
"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."
Okay, to play a little devil’s advocate and debbie downer…
“It starts with investment versus entitlement. I think you get yourselves in a lot of problems when you feel you deserve things without working for it. You have to earn you way every single day, so it’s investment versus entitlement.
Kuester and Curry said this exact same thing in different words. Kuester actually made good on it by benching players when they sucked… sometimes.
To be fair to Frank, he’s saying it much more eqloquently and believably.
“You have to compete at both ends, but we’ll be defense-first.”
Again, I like what I’m hearing, but we’ve heard this before. Are our players capable of being defense first? Skeptical am I.
On the upside, this is excellent. Your move, Joe.
“It’s the players, not the plays,” he said. "There’s an old adage in coaching: ’it’s not about the Xs and Os, it’s about the Jack and Joes.’ …
I don’t want to read too much into that comment, but I’d like to think this was Frank’s subtle way of telling Dumars what we all know about these players.
I agree Gulks
We’re really talking about style over substance at this point. Frank didn’t really say anything substantial that Kuester, Curry, or Saunders didn’t say at their introductory conferences either.
Only time will tell, but you sure WANT to hear the right things, and I think we heard that from Frank.
Much like Gores intro presser, this seems to indicate things are at least moving in the right direction. Of course, we may have to wait until 2012 to find out…
by Big Z in Orlando on Aug 4, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions
Plus the fact that unless/until there are significant roster changes
This team is going to suck, and there’s not really much of anything a coach can do to make it not suck.
Again, I like what I’m hearing, but we’ve heard this before.
From Q these words sounded good but in Cleveland he was known for his offensive prowess. Expecting him to completely follow through was a bit much of us. Curry was well, inexperienced and we didn’t know what we’d get from him.
I’m not saying Franks words can be any more fulfilling but I think he track record can make them a bit more believable.
Track Record
Lawrence Frank, for his career, has a losing record as a head coach. Furthermore, he coached the Nets to the worst start in NBA history.
I’m not trying to be inflammatory at all, because I know we’ve talked about this. But what exactly is his track record that inspires confidence?
I guess after two dud coaches, just seeing Frank and the way he carries himself and communicates makes me feel pretty positive about his abilities and the team going forward. Despite his record, watching that press conference made me feel better about the Pistons than I have in a long time.
by garrettelliott on Aug 4, 2011 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
I'll Bite
First off, he was given a crappy team the year he had the worst start in NBA history, not to mention Devin Harris was injured for more than half of those games. Look at his starting lineup for loss #15: R. Alston ▪ J. Boone ▪ C. Douglas-Roberts ▪ T. Hassell ▪ B. Lopez , and think about how many teams any of those guys could start for…or even play for.
The owner started giving away talent and contracts so they could hurry up and sell the team to the russian millionaire. If you ignore what happened after Kidd was traded in the 07-08 season his record shows a few things.
He’s an overachiever. In each of the seasons the team’s over all record is greater than the expected W-L according to basketball-reference.com
He’s Defense first. In all of his seasons his team have better defense ratings than offensive ratings. For two (and a half) seasons his teams were actually in the top ten for defensive ratings.
He was the Defensive Coordinator for the Boston Celtics. The last one to hold that job was Coach of the year Tom Thibodeau.
He’s been further in the playoffs than T-Mac. Three times in fact
He wants a lot of assists. His teams were above average in the league in assists, finishing in the top ten 3 times. (The one year they didn’t finish was the year they didn’t have Jason Kidd).
Typically his teams have below average turnovers. Twice his teams finished in the top ten for lowest turnovers. (The year they didn’t was the year the traded for Jason Kidd).
Welcome... to the Wallace-hood
by tads on Aug 4, 2011 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions 3 recs
One Thing You Missed
You need to give rookie head coaches time to grow. I thought he did a great job with the Nets, he had a great relationship with JKidd, especially when Kidd was going through personal strife with his then-wife.
I think he will develop even further, and become a great head coach. I will say this much, I’m feeling a lot better about it after hearing him a few times than I would with Woodson.
In the land of milk and honey you must put them on the table...
by V. on Aug 5, 2011 5:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Lawrence Frank, for his career, has a losing record as a head coach.
Know the complete list of coaches with a winning record who are under the age of 60 (doesn’t make sense to hire a senior citizen to head up a rebuilding project) who doesn’t currently have a head coaching job? 1. Jeff Van Gundy. I’m assuming he wouldn’t take the job.
Furthermore, he coached the Nets to the worst start in NBA history.After he was fired from that Nets team, they also went on losing streaks of 11 games, 10 games, and 8 games twice. They were horrible, and Lawrence Frank wasn’t the reason why.
But what exactly is his track record that inspires confidence?He made the playoffs in his first four seasons as a coach and hadn’t even hit puberty yet. That was pretty cool. Really though, every time we hire a new coach there’s the same fuzzy stories about them. But for Curry and Kuester, it was “trust us, he’s great!” With Frank at least there’s something more than that. It’s this, pretty much:
by Shinons* on Aug 4, 2011 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions 5 recs
After he was fired from that Nets team, they also went on losing streaks of 11 games, 10 games, and 8 games twice. They were horrible, and Lawrence Frank wasn’t the reason why.
Or in other words, the Pistons sucked last year, and Frank doesn’t have the capacity to change that.
True or false?
Anyway, back to drinking the Frankolaid. I’m resigned to the fact that we’ll still suck next year, even if our new coach knows how to handle a press conference.
I agree with you there
Or in other words, the Pistons sucked last year, and Frank doesn’t have the capacity to change that.
No coach has the capacity to change the Pistons, without serious roster overhaul.
Not Larry Frank,
not Larry Brown,
not Hubie Brown,
not Doc brown or Marty Mc Fly
not Rick Adelman,
not Rick Carlisle,
not Phil Jackson,
not Samuel L. Jackson,
not Mike Woodson,
not Mike Izzo,
not Patrick Ewing,
not Patrick Chewing,
not Jack Bauer
not John McClain
not Ted the Million Dollar Man Debiase
not even Bill Laimbeer.
But Frank is a real coach, one that can get things done if given real players. The onus is solely on Dumars to fix that.
Welcome... to the Wallace-hood
by tads on Aug 5, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions 4 recs
Loved Ted DiBiase
One of the greatest pro wrestlers of all time, and his Million Dollar Man act is perhaps my favorite, it was so over the top.
In the land of milk and honey you must put them on the table...
by V. on Aug 5, 2011 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Too bad his son is so fucking generic and boring.
The apple fell off the tree, hopped on the nearest plane, and took a flight all the way to the opposite side of the world.
Terrence J. is feeling a bit fishy...
by Trout Jefferson on Aug 8, 2011 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Agreed. I am glad Cody Rhodes found a way to stand out, even if I’m not really a fan. Personally, I don’t think anyone in that family will ever top this guy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duTrIc0l5tE
Unbelievable Time distortion space is the place Mean Gene Okerlund go down that lonesome highway but don't be hypnotized no- reincarnation doesn't have to be you can concentrate and you can-mental telepathy YEAH! But the beat goes on.
by SpursfanSteve on Aug 9, 2011 11:24 AM EDT up reply actions
rec'd for mike izzo.
the only thing i found regarding a mike izzo was this random architechy dude webpage
Kuester and Curry said this exact same thing in different words. Kuester actually made good on it by benching players when they sucked… sometimes.
I’ve said it before and I’ll likely have to say it again…
No one knows how to kill a good mood around here like you do, Gulks.
My federal building is way cooler than your federal building.
by bugman222 on Aug 5, 2011 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs

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