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Ben Wallace Arrested On Drunk Driving, Unlawful Concealed Weapon Charges

See, NBA lockout? This is what happens -- good people, by most accounts, do stupid things during their unwanted, added free time. This bad news about our future criminal case blocking attorney comes via The Detroit News (thanks C$ for posting in the FanShots):

Detroit Piston Ben Wallace is facing drunken driving and weapons offenses after being arrested over the weekend for erratic driving on Telegraph Road at Long Lake, according to township police.

Wallace, 37, of Bloomfield Hills was pulled over about 2:35 a.m. Saturday behind the wheel of a 2007 Cadillac Escalade, police said. Wallace was arrested without incident for operating a motor vehicle while intoxicated.

A search of the vehicle found an unloaded semi-automatic pistol in a backpack in the passenger compartment with a fully loaded magazine, police said. At the police station, Wallace was given a breathalyzer test, which showed he had a blood alcohol count above the .08 level considered intoxicated. The reading was not released by police.

Wallace was arraigned Saturday in front of Bloomfield Hills 48th District Court Magistrate Judith Holtz on the OWI charge, a 93-day misdemeanor, and the unlawful carrying of a concealed weapon, a five-year felony. He was released to a family member on $5,000 personal bond after the arraignment and is scheduled back in court for a pre-exam conference at 9:30 a.m. on Oct. 3. Michigan Secretary of State Records reveal no previous drunken driving offenses for Wallace.

Despite the fact that the police report suggests Wallace was apologetic, cooperative, and admitted his wrong doings, he's going to have a tough time getting out of this one because he's drawn Judge Kimberly Small.

Judge Small is renowned for being harsh on first time MIPs and DUIs. This past July she gave Jalen Rose 20 days in jail and one-year probation for a first-time OWI offense, although his offense resulted in an accident. Wallace has a better case (he claims to have had only four beers a couple hours earlier while at a club), but it's probably not a good idea for him to get a head start on his defense attorney career and go pro se.

Wallace is to appear at court on October 3. Due to this silly lockout, the Pistons can't comment on Wallace's arrest or even joke about the fact it took two pairs of handcuffs to arrest the big man. I think it's safe to say, though, that thankfully Wallace was stopped before anyone potentially got hurt and the NBA lockout can't end soon enough.

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I blame Stern

That goddamn Okra and beans got you Oprah in jeans. Seems to me a little lean cuisine, wouldn't hurt much- Agh don't touch! -Obie Trice

by Skylar on Sep 29, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Seems like any plans for a Gilbert Arenas trade should be put on hold.

Welcome... to the Wallace-hood

by tads on Sep 29, 2011 4:58 PM EDT reply actions  

I was mostly joking...

But has Big Ben ever done this before? We’re in the middle of what would be training camp and NBA players have a lot of extra free time on their hands and are likely a little bored even. What do people do when they’re bored? Stupid shit sometimes. The lockout could at least have been a factor in his decision to go to the club with a buddy and throw a few back when he may have otherwise been at home resting up for the next day’s practice or morning workout…

by Packey on Sep 30, 2011 11:46 AM EDT up reply actions  

He have just come over to my parents’ house to watch a dog show with me.

by garrettelliott on Sep 30, 2011 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nah, stick to the joke...

Whether he has to work in the morning or not is in no way relevant to whether or not he’s carrying around an illegal weapon. Ben being an accountable stand up guy as he seems to be would almost certainly scoff at the mere hint that any one is to blame for this except him.

I do very much appreciate this, however: “I think it’s safe to say, though, that thankfully Wallace was stopped before anyone potentially got hurt.” I agree…rather than cursing his bad luck, it’s a good thing when drunk drivers get stopped, particularly when they are carrying weapons.

I don’t mean at all to argue that Ben’s not a good guy. But it was really bad behavior and very dangerous for others. And if this arrest prevented an unlikely, but possible, tragedy or (more likely) will make him more cautious about drunk driving in the future, it’s a good thing.

As a dumb-assed teenager, I used to pull this shit and it’s one of the few things about my past that really embarrass me. I am very cautious now, but can’t tell you I’ve not driven a few times over the past three decades when I’ve been over the limit. But I always swore to myself, that if I ever get busted while doing something so irresponsible, I won’t hire a lawyer, and I wont’ arrange a deal. I’ll want to be held fully accountable for being so selfish.

Anyway, Ben…really good people make mistakes. I think no less of you as a person. And I’m sure this is painful and embarrassing for you and I feel sad myself that this has happened.

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by MrHappyMushroom on Oct 1, 2011 2:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Unemployment is clearly linked to crimes like this.

It would be interesting if someone did a study of really rich people who suddenly become unemployed and if the impact is similar.

"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."

@brgulker

by brgulker on Oct 4, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

well...

concealed weapon without a permit, possession of a handgun while having a measurable amount of alcohol in his system, and unlawfully transporting said handgun. Those 3 right there are bad enough. Add to it all that he was drunk? Ohhhhhhh boy.

by madpoopz on Sep 29, 2011 7:00 PM EDT reply actions  

I Was Really Saddened When I First Found Out

He and Chauncey were my favorite’s from the “Going To Work” group.

The DUI is in my opinion just a mistake in judgement on his part.

However, carrying a semi-automatic in his back pack is just stupid. Fortunately it was not loaded so it wasn’t totally stupid.

Well one thing is for sure now.

Once he becomes a defense attorney he will be able to say to some of his clients. “Been there done it” Hopefully this arrest will not prevent him becoming a licensed attorney.

by Buddahfan on Sep 29, 2011 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Errr admittedly I don't know how it works over in the States,

But here if you get a criminal record, it’s pretty much guaranteed you’re not going to ever be practising law which would really suck for Ben, especially considering it seems like such a stupid thing.

by nels1 on Sep 29, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

it will definitely come up during his bar-passing character and fitness review.
you don’t pass the character and fitness, you don’t practice law.
fortunately for ben, even if his character is lacking, his fitness is second to none!

by freywagg on Sep 30, 2011 9:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Character review?

So lawyers become conniving soul-less pricks after they pass the bar?

I got jokes!

by TDP on Sep 30, 2011 10:17 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

I feel pretty much the opposite

I trust Big Ben with a firearm, even while mildly intoxicated. I’d say there’s almost no chance he goes all “Falling Down” on us. Not having a license to carry the weapon concealed in Michigan is lazy, IMHO, but again, the potential for danger to others is almost zilch.

However, I trust exactly 0 people to drive while drunk.

If you’re driving drunk, you are putting everyone else on the road in danger. No excuses, especially for a guy who can pay to have someone drive him to and from the club.

by Big Z in Orlando on Sep 30, 2011 7:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

It Shouldn't

Crimes of honesty and violence are one thing, a DUI is another.

This is DBB, and this is what we do.

by V. on Oct 1, 2011 7:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ben wallace

Those things happen it’s part of life karma i would say like the F-5 tornado that i was in! everything will work it self out we have to stop putting these guys a head of us they are human just like us! cell phones anyone my org. is collecting used cell phones the money will go to building a charter school for all children with disability’s in joplin, mo. as you all know joplin, was hit bad by a f-5 tornado this may and we lost 6 schools we are on a recyling program and get $3.00 dollars a phone please help! you can send your phones to the following address
foundation for children with down syndrome
1836 S. oronogo st.
webb city, mo. 64870 suite# 2c
thanks for your support! go pistons!

by Fred W. Capel on Sep 29, 2011 8:13 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

i'm sorry

but these seem like a bad meme, not a honest request for help in joplin.

am i crazy?

by freywagg on Sep 30, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

I never expected this

Not to say that I expected him or anyone to be some flawless media role model, but I would have expected Ben to make better decisions and at least at handle his business with legal gun ownership. He’ll be better off and learn from it and is smart enough to make better decisions. Good luck Ben, you’ll need it with that asshole judge.

by FunkyDonut on Sep 29, 2011 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I’m sad, man. I’m a sad panda.

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by Biz Markie Moon on Sep 29, 2011 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Initially, I was really sad, and I still am.

But I’m also getting pissed about this. Driving drunk is one of the things I hate most in the world. I don’t mean to offend anyone here, but IMO, it’s one of the most selfish things in the world a person can do. I absolutely detest it when people put other people’s lives at risk so recklessly.

Ben Wallace, I love you man, but this is some bull shit. I’m hugely disappointed.

"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."

@brgulker

by brgulker on Sep 29, 2011 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I don't make excuses for drink-driving in any circumstances,

But especially when you’re a multi-millionaire it just seems worse. Shit, it’s not like you can’t afford a cab.

by nels1 on Sep 30, 2011 11:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Impaired judgment

Human beings do a poor job of assessing risk in real time. A lot of people who do negligent things have good intentions but don’t assess risks properly in the moment. This happens on the micro level with things like drunk driving and on the macro level where police or health decisions aren’t made based on what does the most harm but what is the most scarey or spectacular risk. I don’t think having poor judgment is selfish. It’s just having poor judgment.

People aren’t all that reasonable. Stupid wins the day very often.

by joejoejoe on Oct 1, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh and just to be straight
I can’t hate on a wealthy celebrity keeping protection but not properly registering it

I’m talking one piece of protection kept clearly out of reach, just in case. I’m not talking some Delonte West / Stephen Jackson type shit.

"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."

by Mike Payne on Sep 29, 2011 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I assume you meant

“some Delonte West / Stephen Jackson / Gilbert Arenas type shit.”

by Toledo Joe on Sep 30, 2011 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I couldn't agree more about the weapon charge...

Plus, I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt in that he forgot it was in his bag from Virginia where, if I’m not mistaken, you do not need to have a permit.

For the same reason I understand why athletes carry guns on them is why I don’t understand athletes don’t have personal drivers when they go out to consume any amounts of alcohol: they have a lot of money.

I can tell this little story about myself here because DBB is fam and it’s not like it’ll get me in trouble — I’ve had to disclose it on all my school applications, etc. — but I was pulled over on January 6, 2004 for going the speed limit in a snow storm. The guy wanted to warn me to drive under the speed limit to be safe, but then he smelled alcohol on my breath. I had 4 beers earlier that day while playing poker with my friends and had purposely waited about six hours to drive because even as a stupid 18 year old I still took that shit seriously (I lost a friend to a drunk driver and my parents raised me well). Because I was cooperative, remorseful, passed all the roadside tests, and he admitted he didn’t HAVE to pull me over, I was given an MIP instead of a DUI. My case drew Judge Small and she almost quite literally put it in my butt. Needless to say, I won’t be making the “well, I had one too many beers earlier today” mistake again, even if I did only blow a 0.04 and would’ve been legally okay to drive had I been 21. To this day, I count my blessings that police officer pulled me over — I shook the guy’s hand after he drove me home that night even.

If it’s true that Big Ben only had four beers a couple hours before deciding to operate a vehicle (which is hard to believe because he blew over the limit and he’s enormous), I kind of relate and I feel bad because even though I know now it’s always stupid to consume alcohol and get behind the wheel afterward, sometimes it can be as innocent of a mistake as a stupid mistake can be (if that makes sense… don’t twist that though — I don’t condone what Big Ben did, but I’d say, having only read the police report and not knowing what he blew, it sounds like he’s one of the more innocent DUI cases, if there’s such a thing, and I’m certain he’s learned his lesson; Judge Small won’t let him not.)

by Packey on Sep 30, 2011 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

Is it likely that the weapon being in the car forced the officer to cite BW? 4 beers would pretty much put him right at the legal limit. I was riding with a friend shortly after our 21st birthdays, both January 6th coincidentally, IN THE TACO BELL DRIVE THRU!!! He blew a .07 the cop let us go.

by JoeDip on Oct 1, 2011 12:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

The weapon was found out upon a search of his car after he had already failed a breathalyzer.

by Packey on Oct 1, 2011 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

failing a breathalyzer doesn't even matter...

the gun could’ve been properly registered up the wazoo, but if he has any “measurable amount of alcohol” in his system than he is in illegal possession.

Michigan is a pretty easy state to register a hand gun in. 5 minutes of your time at most. You go to your local sheriff’s office fill out a form where you write some info on the gun down and they give you a permit and keep one on their records which ends up in the states records by the end of a month.

It’s the responsibility of the gun owner to keep track of the gun and ultimately, if it was registered to his wife in Virginia, than it is her responsibility. That may not apply to her legally, but from a responsibility standpoint it is hers.

This doesn’t excuse his decision making though. He’s an adult. He should have acted like one.

by madpoopz on Oct 2, 2011 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

he forgot it was in his bag from Virginia where, if I’m not mistaken, you do not need to have a permit.

I’ve been told I’m mistaken — permits are absolutely required there. I’ve since read, though, that the gun Wallace was carrying was supposedly registered to his wife and he knew he shouldn’t have been carrying it.

by Packey on Oct 1, 2011 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Say What?

I doubt that Ben Wallace is lazy.

My guess is that he didn’t register the gun because it was previously stolen. Not that he stole it but probably acquired it from either someone who stole it or from a middleman who traffics in stolen guns. That is why he never registered it not because he is lazy and doesn’t like to fill out paper work. When you buy a gun legally the registration takes place at the time that you buy it.

JMO

by Buddahfan on Oct 2, 2011 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions  

he didn’t register the gun because it was previously stolen

Yeah, that’s totally a more likely scenario than the one I suggested.

"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."

by Mike Payne on Oct 2, 2011 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

For Those That Remember 1980-81 and the Beginning of 1981-82

Paul Mokeski (Pistons 1980 – 82) Will Be Named Head Coach Of Reno Bighorns
Sep 29, 2011 8:17 PM EDT

Paul Mokeski will be named head coach of the Reno Bighorns of the D-League.

“I would love the opportunity to be a head coach in the DLeague and am hoping to get interviews with a few teams this summer,” Mokeski told Schroeder earlier in the search process. “I would like the chance to continue to teach players and help them accomplish their dream of playing in the NBA.”

Mokeski played 12 seasons in the NBA and has been an assistant in both the NBA and D-League.

Eric Musselman left the Bighorns to become head coach of the D-Fenders.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/215775/Paul_Mokeski_Will_Be_Named_Head_Coach_Of_Reno_Bighorns

In 1980-81 he played in 80 games and averaged 23 mpg 7 ppg and 5 rpg. As I recall he backed up Kent Benson at Center. 80-81 was also the Terry Tyler’s (one of my favorite Pistons from the early 80s) second season. The Pistons were pretty awful that season winning only 21 games which was better than 79-80 when they won only 16 games. 79-80 was Vitale’s second season as Pistons head coach and he lasted all of 12 games.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mokespa01.html

by Buddahfan on Sep 30, 2011 12:51 AM EDT reply actions  

What the fuck? Seems really out of character for a stand up guy like big Ben. My mind is somewhat blown by this.

by dandresden on Sep 30, 2011 11:31 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I too am saddened. Once upon a time, I loved Barkley’s rejection of his role model status, but when I read this story the first thing I thought of was when I took my five year old nephew to a Pistons game during the Big Ben era. He so loved the wig, the gong, the R shirts, he still today as a ten year old claims that Wallace is his favorite player. Still, it’s not fair to criticize any person because they’re not behaving like a proper role model for kids; Wallace is an adult, after all. Maybe my sadness roots from the fact that one of my heroes has let me down. It’s hard enough to admit that one of my heroes is younger, richer and more muscular than me, now I have to remember that idolizing anyone is a bad idea.

by ToledoHill on Sep 30, 2011 12:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I have to remember that idolizing anyone is a bad idea.

I think it’s okay to idolize someone you really know. Like, my role model is my Dad — I don’t think that’s a bad idea. I think idolizing a professional athlete for anything other than their athletic ability is dangerous because we typically don’t really know them beyond what we see in the media (see Tiger Woods). Athletes are people and people make mistakes, some more grave than others, but it happens.

by Packey on Sep 30, 2011 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions   2 recs

And I suspect that most of you idolize me.

And though you only know me through occasional smart-assed quips here, you still know me.

You KNOW me…

My blogs: pakagankarachi.livejournal.com (dormant)
burmahunkalove.livejournal.com (occasional signs of life)

by MrHappyMushroom on Oct 1, 2011 2:20 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

"Sadly ecstatic that our heroes are newwwwwws!"

—Pete, 5:15

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burmahunkalove.livejournal.com (occasional signs of life)

by MrHappyMushroom on Oct 1, 2011 2:44 AM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Not a popular opinion, but it doesn’t devastate me. It was stupid…people make mistakes. I am a law-abiding citizen…never been arrested, don’t use drugs, never been in a fight, etc, etc, but I’ve driven home after drinking too much at an office function…it happens…I was terrified the whole ride home. I didn’t get pulled over, and didn’t hit anyone, so there’s no bad ending. But I’m not going to suddenly think that Ben is anything other than an upstanding individual because he was an idiot one night. And as for the concealed weapon…couldn’t care less. I expect him to have a gun on him because too many idiots know who he is, and that he’s loaded, and that they can’t attack a dude the size of a Hummer without a gun.

Scott Hastings was the greatest player in the league in Bulls vs. Lakers.

by newfy on Sep 30, 2011 3:43 PM EDT reply actions  

We all know the guy who shouldn't be driving.

It’s not Ben Wallace after 4 beers. It’s not most of the people at most of the events you’ve been to in your life. It’s a dangerous combination or an extreme version of two types of people. One is the person who drives either in a manner that’s overtly aggressive or utterly imbecilic on a regular basis. The other is the person who is always slurring there words a bit too much and can always find a good excuse for why they’ve lost their balance, possibly because they can’t not dance to this horrifically instructive Katy Perry song that follows me everywhere.

Let me say next that in my peer group of wealthy industrialists, we get paid to party and meet dozens of people per week and have a pretty good idea which of these people are which and when this dangerous combination has met critical mass.

I would propose that they also start pulling over the assholes and the imbeciles during daytime driving hours. And they should make breathalyzers cheap and widely available. And there should be a law that bar staff can request their use on someone they suspect is wasted. They are never wrong. The bar staff, that is. The fine for either driving like an imbecile or being intoxicated should be determined by how much of an asshole you were being on the road. If a cop pulls you over for not stopping for three full seconds at a stop sign, I’m not sure if there should be more than a ticket and a taxi ride. If you hit three or more parked cars on a side street, whether you were drunk or stone cold sober, you should go directly to jail, do not collect $200. Sadly, I’ve had friends in both scenarios and it cost the wrong people up to tens of thousands of dollars on numerous occasions. The friend who hit multiple cars claimed he fell asleep from a medical ailment and needed to go to the hospital, avoiding the breathalyzer and the DUI. What a d**k. The girl who didn’t even roll through a stop sign was held for 90 minutes as her third drink, a shot she drank before walking out of the bar, set in. The bar was five blocks from her house. It cost her basically an entire year’s wages.

Maybe when they say jury of our peers, they should actually ask our friends to be honest about who drives like a d**k on the regular and who always has too many fine microbrews in the second half. Full on epinion.

"I like spaghetti."

by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Oct 1, 2011 3:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

I Would Guess In Your Profession

The cheMicals of choice woulD iMprove ones’ driving skills, not impAir them.

This is DBB, and this is what we do.

by V. on Oct 1, 2011 7:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

jeez Ben really stupid . .

but you’re still one of my favorite Pistons

by curlyfries on Sep 30, 2011 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

The thing that kills me about this is I know all sorts of a fucking people who have driven drunk

I’ve even told my friends straight up if we’re partying and they try to drive out, I better be knocked the fuck out, because if I’m sober, they’re gonna have to do it anyway to get to their car.

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by Biz Markie Moon on Oct 1, 2011 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Ben's Big Mistake Was Not the DUI

My guess would be that 10 – 20 times more people are driving DUI then those that get caught and charged with it.

Yes it is bad and wrong to drive when legally under the influence in violation of the driving laws

However his really stupid act was to have a unregistered concealed weapon in his car while he was driving. That is the one that will follow him when his playing days are done not the DUI.

by Buddahfan on Oct 2, 2011 11:05 AM EDT reply actions  

Ben Wallace waives right to hearing

Associated Press – BLOOMFIELD HILLS, Mich. — Detroit Pistons center Ben Wallace has waived his right to a preliminary hearing on charges of drunken driving and unlawfully carrying a concealed weapon

http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7053777/ben-wallace-detroit-tigers-waives-hearing-dui-case

by Buddahfan on Oct 3, 2011 11:35 AM EDT reply actions  

i think packey may know the best

but A drunk driving conviction and weapons charge could seriously hurt his BAR application.

by Wheaties on Oct 3, 2011 5:05 PM EDT reply actions  

But not his RPBAR’d application.

by -PS- on Oct 3, 2011 5:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have a hard time passing a BAR.

"Mike Payne is a walking-talking-hate-spewing-fire-breathing example of how exactly NOT to use supposed "statistical" analysis in the game of basketball."

by Mike Payne on Oct 3, 2011 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ben wallace

I wish you the best I am glad you didn"t get that judge that locked up jalen and let her friends go and even took them home she should be locked up.

by Shirley Blake on Oct 4, 2011 10:48 AM EDT reply actions  


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