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Pistons riding franchise's worst 4-game losing streak

When the Pistons lost to the Knicks by more than three touchdowns on Saturday night, it marked the first time in 32 years the team had lost by 16 or more points in three consecutive games. Well, you just had to think that last night's drubbing to the Bulls, the team's fourth straight loss by 16 or more, is some kind of record. As it turns out, it most certainly is, thanks to MLIVE again for digging up the research:

The Detroit Pistons achieved a franchise first Monday night, when another blowout loss marked the first time in their 64-year history that they lost four consecutive games by 16 points or more.

That history includes eight years in Fort Wayne, Ind., from the 1948-49 season to the 1956-57 season, before the Pistons moved to Detroit.

I don't know if it's the worst four-game losing streak in the history of the NBA, but I imagine it's close. I do know that the Cleveland Cavaliers didn't lose more than three straight by 16 or more points last year when they lost an NBA record 26 straight games.

At least the Pistons don't play the defending NBA champions tonight...

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by TDP on Jan 10, 2012 1:02 PM EST reply actions  

WE'VE GOT SPIRIT YES WE DO, WE'VE GOT SPIRIT HOW BOUT YOU?

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by The Boourns on Jan 10, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions  

Settin' Records

really proud of this team.

by mcflies on Jan 10, 2012 1:28 PM EST reply actions  

I want Frank's offense to place more emphasis on the point guard

We need Knight to learn how to wreak havoc in the lane as fast as possible

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by bearded thundar on Jan 10, 2012 1:46 PM EST reply actions  

I don't agree with the coaching part of this.

Bynum and Knight are both using a large number of the Pistons possessions when they’re on the floor, and per minute, they’re shooting the ball significantly more than our best offensive player, Greg Monroe.

I want Knight to be a force in the paint, too, but our PGs are already getting a disproportionate number of shot attempts already.

If anything, I think Frank needs to feature Monroe much more, which as PP noted earlier this week, he appears to want to do, calling Monroe a “hub” for the offense.

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by brgulker on Jan 10, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions  

In a weird twist of fate, Stuckey’s usage and shot attempts / minute < Moose’s.

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by brgulker on Jan 10, 2012 2:10 PM EST up reply actions  

Is that because he’s playing off the ball more? I missed most of the games he played.

by JoeDip on Jan 10, 2012 3:07 PM EST up reply actions  

Honestly, I’m not really sure. From what I have seen, Knight and Bynum have just been forcing their own shots a little too much.

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by brgulker on Jan 10, 2012 3:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed

Out of the perimeter guys I want Knight to be the primary ball handler, but the offense should go through Greg.

An article on the subject, with some quotes.
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120109/SPORTS0102/201090438/1127/rss13

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by Kriz on Jan 10, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Knight should learn to be a force in the paint/finish without handling the ball

As in, they should be giving the ball to Monroe at the high post, and Knight should be learning how to cut to the basket. Based on the quality of our talent at each position, Moose is likely to be our best player for years to come regardless of how others mature/evolve around him.

If thats the case, then teaching Knight to be a dribble heavy penetration guard vs. a dish and cut PG that shoots when necessary seems counter-productive to our assumed personnel now and in the future.

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by The Boourns on Jan 10, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree with that entirely

I meant that I want to see more drive and kicks etc, assists that are generated directly from our point guard play. We move the ball well but our personnel just isn’t suited for a true team offense; I feel our team has bricked more wide open shots than the rest of the league combined

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by bearded thundar on Jan 10, 2012 6:37 PM EST up reply actions  

not his game

if you didn’t notice by the whopping 3 free throw attempts Knight has taken this season. he avoids contact.

by mcflies on Jan 10, 2012 2:15 PM EST up reply actions  

I’m hoping the guys buy in to his offense more quickly. This has been some ugly basketball. If that involves Knight having more emphasis, so be it.

by JoeDip on Jan 10, 2012 3:09 PM EST up reply actions  

this game is just what the mavs need to get back on track.

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by dandresden on Jan 10, 2012 1:53 PM EST reply actions  

Surely they have a rookie who needs to build some confidence, or a wily veteran who just hasn’t been able to find his stroke yet.

by garrettelliott on Jan 10, 2012 2:19 PM EST up reply actions  

We need to throw it down low to Greg Monroe, thats what we need. Let him beast and let this confidence grow.

How in the hell does Maxiell get 12 shot attempts and Greg 9??

Monroe was 5/9 with 14 10 and 6. Give the guy the ball.

I can’t even count how many times Tayshaun looked away from Monroe when he had great post position down low.

by Rban on Jan 10, 2012 1:54 PM EST reply actions  

I blame Kyle Singler

by JoeDip on Jan 10, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions  

It's criminal that you can't rec yourself for Wilking

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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 10, 2012 3:28 PM EST up reply actions  

Also, Wilkins is definitely not our best guard...

defensively, yes. But after that game against the Bulls, he seems significantly more inept than he did in previously contests.

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by The Boourns on Jan 10, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions  

Has anyone else completely given up on Daye?

I have.

by Rban on Jan 10, 2012 3:34 PM EST reply actions  

giving up on him eliminates a trade asset, and we were already in the negative on those to begin with.

i don’t even bother thinking of trades anymore. my mind can’t process the remote possibility that another team would want any player on the pistons other than Monroe or Jerebko. it’s unfathomable to me. if i were a GM of another team i would look at this team, shake my head, and then look elsewhere.

by mcflies on Jan 10, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions  

I've given up on him.

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by dandresden on Jan 10, 2012 3:51 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah...for as much as we place the blame on JoD's ineptitude when it comes to pulling the trigger on a trade

just as much emphasis can be placed on his utter stupidity when it comes to signing players in the past 4 years. In my opinion this just compounds the existing issue that we are the only team that hasn’t made a trade in the past 2 years.

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by The Boourns on Jan 10, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I've given up on him as a Piston

As many did with Amir (although I wasn’t among them).

I think he still has a chance at making an NBA team somewhere, and has the chance to develop into a end-of-the-rotation guy somewhere. I’m skeptical it’s here, though. Seems like a head case to me.

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by brgulker on Jan 10, 2012 4:14 PM EST up reply actions  

True story

Amir is top 5 among big men in FG%. Also, he’d be pretty much a perfect complement to Monroe inside…double sad face.

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by The Boourns on Jan 10, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions  

He plays to timid in actual games. In pre-season and garbage time he is more aggressive and and actually shows flashes of why we drafted him, but he seems to have a mental block when in the game when it still matters. Almost like he is over thinking things and trying not to screw up, which causes him to screw up. I have seen a number of times where he has a open jump shot, but rather than just shooting the damn ball, dribbles and gets him self a worst shot which he misses badly. I groan every time i see him touch the ball now. If we traded him for a late second round pick i would not mind one bit.

by Bry7 on Jan 10, 2012 4:25 PM EST up reply actions  


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