Pistons at Bucks: pregnant Pistons reach for a Milwaukee's Best
Detroit Pistons at Milwaukee Bucks, Jan 12, 2012 8:00 PM EST
About this Pistons team, head coach Lawrence Frank recently said, "Everyone wants a baby, but few people want to go through the pregnancy. This is going to be hard." I don't think its healthy to hang out in the beer capitol of the world when you're pregnant, Larry. Just sayin'. Also, who's the father?
Game Tips at 8:00 P.M. EST
Detroit Pistons: 2 - 8 (0 - 4 away)
Milwaukee Bucks: 3 - 6 (3 - 0 home)
The Situation:
It's not surprising that Milwaukee is capable of .500 basketball when Andrew Bogut is suited up. That's pretty much always been the case, as it still is today. The Bucks are 3-2 with Bogut, starting this abbreviated season with an undefeated home record. Beyond Bogut, however, the rest of this roster is kind-of-a-mess. They've got a point guard who doesn't pass and can't shoot, and the rest of the squad is made up of wannabe sixth men. I can't imagine how it feels to root for a team like that...
The Bucks' are getting solid production from vets like Carlos Delphino and Drew Gooden while rookies Jon Leuer and Tobias Harris are contributing as well. Delphino is hitting at 43% from outside, Gooden is crashing the boards, Leuer is hustling (every day) and Harris is scoring at an admirable rate. There are things to feel good about in Milwaukee, and I wish we could say the same in Detroit.
Injury Update - the Pistons will still be without Rodney Stuckey (groin) and Charlie Villanueva (ankle). Combo dog Mosa T. Aloysius P. McFluffyStuff Burns will also miss tonight's game, getting stitches removed from his right eye (h/t brgulker).
Injury Update II - Stuckey is going to give it a go. He will come off the bench.
Fun with Numbers:
As Packey pointed out this morning, the Pistons are "30th in points per game, 30th in turnover rate, 30th in efficiency, 30th in win shares, 30th in PER, 27th in pace, 26th in field goal and opposing field goal percentage, 26th in true shooting percentage". Which players are responsible for all of this suck? Which players have the most negative impact on court?
Will Bynum, Tayshaun Prince, Brandon Knight and Austin Daye are the worst offenders when it comes to wins and losses. Collectively, in 100 possessions, these players score 77 points while giving up 109 on the other end. They turn the ball over 18% of the time, a number that trumps how often they pass the ball. While these players are guilty of some horrible crimes on court, only one Piston player is registering a positive offensive/defensive rating margin in 2011-12. It should be a shock to no one that Greg Monroe is scoring 116 points per 100 possessions while giving up only 108.
Keys to the Game:
Defend those free throws - the Pistons are last in the league in a lotta things, and free throw defense is one of them. Detroit is allowing a league high 79.9% at the charity stripe, a statistic led by the Golden State Warriors who allow only 67.1%. Get your act together, Detroit.
Feed the Moose - Ben Gordon, Will Bynum, Brandon Knight and Austin Daye are taking more shots per minute than Greg Monroe. Stop this, Larry Frank. Also, Greg, when you get the ball, I'd much prefer you pass it instead of taking a contested jumper. (which means I want to see the rest of you moving without the ball)
Pass the round thing and try not to drop it - Detroit is one of the league's worst passing teams as well as one of its most turnover prone. The team won two games when it was passing well and cleaning the glass, so it'd be nice to see those things happen again tonight. Bonus points go to players who are moving without the ball and find an open spot on the perimeter, because this Bucks team is not good at defending 3-point shots.
Question of the Game:
Would Joe Dumars feel hungry or nostalgic if he heard the phrase "Hammond Sandwich"?
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Best headline ever
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by dandresden on Jan 12, 2012 3:03 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I'll drink to that.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Dude
I literally have to drive 40 minutes round trip to watch the games. I think im a sadist but fool myself into believing somehow were really a good team who is under preforming and that THIS is the game we turn it around. The definition of Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result, that and it gives me an excuse to get drunk.
"Also, who's the father?"
I don’t know but he can’t be the best looking bloke with the ugliness on court. He should have used a contraceptive.
This is what im going to watch today
Will Bynum, Brandon Knight and Austin Daye are taking more shots per minute than Greg Monroe. Stop this, Larry Frank. Also, Greg, when you get the ball, I’d much prefer you pass it instead of taking a contested jumper. (which means I want to see the rest of you moving without the ball)
And every damn game. I left out Ben Gordon since I believe he should be taking more shots, not less. Im sure MFMP made a mistake and hell be grateful I corrected it for him.
I don't know if I'd agree with that...
Pass the ball to a man cutting to the basket? Yes.
Pass the ball to one of the afore-mentioned guards so they can shoot a contested jumper? No thanks.
I’ll take Monroe’s 15 foot jumper with smart upfakes over any Austin Daye jumpshot.
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I’ll take Monroe’s 15 foot jumper with smart upfakes over any Austin Daye jumpshot.
Daye is shooting less than 20% outside 9 feet this year and hasn’t hit a 3-pointer yet. Moose is 43%
FACT!
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Seriously?
Not a single three pointer? I won’t even bother to look it up, but that is absolutely incredible.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 10:13 PM EST up reply actions
I wish they'd kick out to BG more often when his shot is open.
if that results in more shots idk. But I think it’ll result in less bad shots by other players.
Go shitty team, fucking go already!
Fire Joe Dumars
by Kriz on Jan 12, 2012 7:45 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
I will rec you every single time
you post any variation on your sublime “Go Shitty Team, Go!” slogan.
T-shirts are cheap to print where I am. I’m gettin’ one.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 10:14 PM EST up reply actions
For tonight's game, beer and donuts.
Pistons are pushing to unhealthy weight gain. For the love of Jod, make it stop.
Fire Joe Dumars
That's why they were serving those at that party.
I thought it was just some sort of sexual innuendo.
Fire Joe Dumars
If you could redraft and your only options were either stick with Daye or Pick Blow Job Mullens
Who’d you pick?
Fire Joe Dumars
Daye and then trade him after he has a kick-ass summer league and preseason.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 8:43 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Wish I had FSN+
Gonna have to deal with the Bucks feed on this one.
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thank god
I can watch new episodes of parks and rec & up all night instead of the stones tonight!
by freywagg on Jan 12, 2012 8:09 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
Watching the Bucks feed
Is it just me or did they used Gary Neal’s picture with Knight’s name in the lineup presentation?
Fire Joe Dumars
I don't know
But they said Gordon is the key to our team. Maybe that would be true in another world. We have no keys!
Kriz just mentioned this
But yeah, not sure what happened there.
WTF? indeed
You paid for League Pass??
by Shinons* on Jan 12, 2012 8:15 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
it’s only $99 for about 63 games (not counting market and national tv games), which comes out to be $1.57/game which is far better than paying a shit load for cable tv.
Agreed on that
I don’t have cable for that reason too – much more cost-effective to pay for what you want, IMO. I do MLB.tv and Prime.
it just shows
that even the production staff is not paying attention to the pistons anymore quite sad really.
Bucks announcers are insightful
They say the greatest strength of the Pistons is making other teams complacent. I can’t argue with that.
I almost feel like crying.
It reminds me of what I’ve been told every time I was rejected for a date.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
True
The kid has flashes of talent. I hope he pulls it all together this year.
Moose with a big rebound
just ripped away from bogut!
Gonna be a good Knight.
I’m thinking we compete all the way through the third!
We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 12, 2012 8:27 PM EST reply actions
He’s still not getting teammates involved when making drives to the basket, but he’s shooting better and doing a better job of taking care of the basketball.
No more impressive than Stuckey was his rookie season as far as I'm concerned.
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I don't know
Given this is game 10, and how the season started with just two preseason games and like no training camp, I’d give him the slight edge, he’s defeinitely not blowing me away on a consistent basis, but he at least shows some promise
yeah I didn't really believe it when I wrote it...
lol.
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Agreed.
And he can shoot the ball. If Stuckey had a three point game, he’d potentially be a star. Imagine his strength and ability to get to the rim if someone had to guard him outside of fifteen feet.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions
I’m with Boourns.
I don’t recall Stuckey ever having these kinds of problems taking care of the basketball. Maybe my memory’s just bad, though.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
are you finally forgiving me for my Boney comment?
I really didn’t mean it and it really was low. I love you Gulkytons!
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Of course. I knew it was just the heat of the moment. It kind of irked me in the moment, but I’m not carrying a grudge. fist bump? bro hug?
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
fist hug.
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Seriously...go away and punch some random dude in the head
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I honestly forgot he was in the NBA until last night.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
Unforced Turnover!
We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 12, 2012 8:31 PM EST reply actions
Beautiful pass by Stuckey...
good to have him back…lol.
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Things The Boourns would never utter
for 200 Alex
by Danny D on Jan 12, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
A pick-and-roll hoop? I thought I would see the Loch Ness monster before I see the Pistons pull this play off in a real game.
The Loch Ness monster lives in my house. Fact.
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Damn...
Knight with the flight.
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Nice ball movement this quarter
Prince with 3 assists, Stuckey and Gordon with 2 each
We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 12, 2012 8:33 PM EST reply actions
right now he's probably the best PG on this team.
I just died a little.
But if that kinda assist production becomes consistent, I’ll come back to life.
Thats a per 36 of 28.8 assist per game!!!
Re-sign bigger contract now!
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Gonna say this
Stuckey for Gordon has made a huge difference defensively in this quarter.
Fire Joe Dumars
He's a much better player.
If the Pistons were a decent team, Stuckey could be a great, vital component. Kinda like he was toward the end of his first season.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Knight is tearing it up rn
I just wish he’d start to distribute more like I thought he would coming into the season
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With zero assists this quarter...
and 3 total in his last two games, you gotta wonder if Brandon Knight is learning bad habits with all this shoot first stuff
Welcome... to the Wallace-hood
Thats the way you run Stuck.
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shut your mouth.
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Monroe padding stats.
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OH SNAP SAYS RODNEY!
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HAYYYYYYY
DON’T LOOK NOW! THAT’S A SIGHT FOR SORE EYES!
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I wouldn't mind seeing Knight, Stuckey, Jerebko, Maxiell, Monroe
as a starting 5…
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who would you rather have at the 4?
It certainly shouldn’t be CV.
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maxiell and JJ could switch easily on defense.
and it would put JJ at the 3 to cut to the hoop.
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But If We Did That..
what do we do with our on the court veteran leadership?
This is DBB, and this is what we do.
by V. on Jan 13, 2012 6:10 AM EST up reply actions
I'd stick with JJ over Max
I don’t want to see CV associated with any #
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lol...what the fuck is charlie v. wearing?
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embroidered pad with "CV" in the middle.
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Leuer is the next Dirk.
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yeah I don't understand why people want Wilkins to start...
Just don’t see it.
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yeah he isnt a blur on the court like that youngster tayshaun prince.
prince is like barbosa+rose+vintage allen iverson out there.
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Where did everyone go?
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Bucks announcer
just called Stuckey “Knight” twice
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I don't want to walk away! But, I really need to have some dinner...
I think I’ll have…
HEY!!

Or did you guys decide these were Uzbek Tires?
by W. Stones on Jan 12, 2012 8:48 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
In the name of political correctness...
they are Eastern Northern Southern European bales of dried up amounts of various vegetation.
Whatever happened to real drink?
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I always expect him to sound like Michael Chiklis.

by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 8:53 PM EST up reply actions
pretty much.
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With his veteran leadership and knowledge, he just knows that if he doesn’t shoot it one of the other, lesser players will. And he wants to make sure he’s shooting in rhythm, and not catching a bad pass from another, lesser player, which would force him to take a bad shot. That’s when things just get frustrating, man.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Tayshaun is the place where ball movement goes to die.
Fire Joe Dumars
by Kriz on Jan 12, 2012 8:53 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
WOW! AN ASSIST!
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AN ASSIST WITH SOME SAUCE ON IT!
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Assist
Nice pass, Knight!
We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 12, 2012 8:54 PM EST reply actions
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.
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What does Knight see there?
I think he’s just panicking. I’m not worried yet…
We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 12, 2012 8:56 PM EST reply actions
Just thinking this
Wallace is an all time great.
Too bad he does
We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 12, 2012 8:57 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec'd for truth hurting.
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Jonas is touching a lot of balls.
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he's just playing with the balls.
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Me penis says
“Boing!”
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 10:21 PM EST up reply actions
smart foul by Knight.
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Moose. ball. now.
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Tayshaun translation: Must. shoot. now.
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definitely don't look now!
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probably...
yay?
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If that's true
he could be really good. A talented guy who is smart enough to play to his limits and works to mitigate the weaknesses would be great.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
also a much better shooter
Without a doubt, squats are a cure for everything.
by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:23 PM EST up reply actions
We're so streaky
We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 12, 2012 9:03 PM EST reply actions
Like poo on a window...
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions
Put on your tinfoil hat Kriz and everything will be fine.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:04 PM EST up reply actions
Monroe is fucking ridiculous...
Shoot? Drive! Shoot??? DRIVE! NO SHOOT! NOW DRIVE!
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Stuckey for 9.5 seconds? Odd...
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Will Bynum wouldn’t have turned it over with an offensive foul.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
Calvin Johnson didn't get recognition until the Lions started winning
and Greg Monroe isn’t quite Calvin Johnson
We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 12, 2012 9:05 PM EST up reply actions
And not until he had a good healthy QB to boost his #'s
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Did Calvin Johnson have this?

by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions 12 recs
I think Kriz got it from the Pistons site. It’s a poster being given out for the game on the 20th. Surely someone on the internets can hook us up with a few?
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 10:40 PM EST up reply actions
The Only Thing Cooler Would Be
Moose signing an endorsement deal with Canadian Tire. But he’d probably have to get traded to the Raps for that to happen.
This is DBB, and this is what we do.
by V. on Jan 13, 2012 6:12 AM EST up reply actions
Horford is out for a couple months
So Moose actually has a good shot at the all-star team this season.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Jan 12, 2012 9:09 PM EST up reply actions
clap............clap..........................clap.....
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Great first half
But that last shot makes it about 50% less great…
We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 12, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, that certainly happened.
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 9:06 PM EST reply actions
Thanks Joe!
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i think he knows his team is going nowhere this year so he’s using this as a personal year to rack up kobe achievements
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by dandresden on Jan 12, 2012 9:13 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
that makes good sense
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 12, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
ACHIEVEMENT UNLOCKED: MAXIMUM PRICKITUDE ACHIEVED!
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by The Boourns on Jan 12, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
KOBE BRYANT WITH NO REGARD FOR HIS TEAM MATES OR HIS TEAMS RECORD!
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that would be an awesome achievement in NBA 2K12...
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to unlock it you have to shoot 28%, shoot at least 36 shots and have 6 to’s
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with less than 2 assists.
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maybe even 0 assists.
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Unfortunately his infidelity motion is also unscathed.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Passing : Kobe :: Turning Left : Zoolander
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by The Boourns on Jan 12, 2012 9:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I love me some Xbox LIVE...although I've been lost in Skyrim for the past 120+ hours of gaming I've done since end of November...
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Sort Of...
Now that Kobe’s single, he can go after a certain record held by another famous former Laker, if you catch my drift.
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by V. on Jan 13, 2012 6:14 AM EST up reply actions
There is no way he passes Magic in that department...
Magic has like a 15 year start on him…
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Wasn't Thinking Magic
My man MP knows lol.
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by V. on Jan 13, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
I’m curious if Wilt actually slept with more women than Magic. Magic was insanely prolific in his sexual adventures. I know Wilt set the bar pretty high in that world. I would honestly think that the only reason Wilt might have bigger numbers is because Magic’s HIV became publicly known.
I Have Every Reason To Believe...
Both Magic’s marital status and HIV+ status somehow didn’t impact his batting average as much as you might think.
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by V. on Jan 14, 2012 8:07 PM EST up reply actions
The only thing I know about Magic’s promiscuity was when Howard Stern was on The Magic Hour and he kept trying to get Magic to talk about his orgies, and Magic was like, “Ha ha ha, naw, but really, let’s talk about something else.”
by garrettelliott on Jan 14, 2012 8:31 PM EST up reply actions
Magic...
was a strip club junkie, a regular at 20/20 in Century City (a long defunct topless bar, formerly the Playboy Club), and as surly off camera as he is bubbly on camera (although in recent years, more of the true Magic persona has come out when working as a commentator).
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by V. on Jan 14, 2012 9:25 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
His usage rate is literally twice as high as Gasol's
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Jan 12, 2012 9:15 PM EST up reply actions
thats not a surprise
the lakers are always fucking on so i watch them quite a bit. Kobe is either shooting or turning the ball over on every possession.
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Finally made it
Tell me it’s not completely hurrible.
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 12, 2012 9:14 PM EST reply actions
and offense too even...
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Not completely hurrible but barely tulerable.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
I can't decide whether I like this wine...I don't think I do...but maybe I do.
Having to figure out the wine and beer for the wedding between now and next Friday will be tough work.
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My wife and I had three wedding in three states. I know weddings.
If I learned anything, it’s this: Give them what you want.
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 12, 2012 9:31 PM EST up reply actions
Also: be sure to have a good photographer.
/bias’d
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
we have an awesome photographer (husband and wife)
and Beth is definitely getting what she wants, but the booze is pretty much up to me. We’re getting sparkling wine of some kind, a few reds and a few whites. So with that in mind, we just have to decide which reds and whites.
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Ditto. I went BOYB all the way.
$750 wedding, the maid of honor lost the ring and passed out right in the middle of everyone immediately after the ceremony, and one of my brothers messed up the floor from a drunken fall. I’d say going cheap didn’t inhibit anyone’s good time.
by Shinons* on Jan 12, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
yeah...I'm going quality beers.
Beers:
Hale’s Ales Troll Porter (Ballard Neighborhood Seattle, WA)
Pike Place Brewery Naughty Nellie Blonde Ale (Downtown Seattle, WA)
Redhook Brewery ESB (Woodinville, WA)
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by The Boourns on Jan 12, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
lol...TRIPLE FAILURE!
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your consequence is that you must drive to ann arbor
and personally hand me one of each while in mid squat
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:43 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not handing you anything in mid-squat BT, I don't care what you say.
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*sheds many tears
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions
I hope to try all these beers someday.
and for anybody who remembers when I mentioned the Tri-City Brewing Company in another thread, they opened their tap room today so consistent amounts of high quality beer is in my future! (even though I can get the stuff free, I’ll give them my money to support their endeavor)
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good call...
always support your local brewery…unless they’re terrible.
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we just got under the 30 day mark...
shit is getting REAL!
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Enjoy it! It FLIES by, so be sure to have some fun, reconnect with family and friends you haven’t seen in a while, and pose for some awesome photos with your new wife. :D
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Hey! I was just gonna figure out how to message ya.
but here’s the link for their facebook. Theres gonna be some stuff going on the next few days including a 5th anniversary party on saturday.
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Tri-City-Brewing-Company/60206913692
I might be by there tomorrow at some point as well.
I too have the day off tomorrow. But I wouldn’t be by there til later.
I hope this 3rd quarter doesn’t end up like the Boston game where they blitzed us with a 8-0 from jump after halftime.
Well we scored 2!
Nightmare averted…
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I don't know...he kind of looks good on his own...and its his first start and at home...
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I was a fan of his when he was on Wisconsin
I think he’ll have a decent career
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It only moves when he hangs from the rim, falls awkwardly, and breaks his elbow into a million pieces.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:26 PM EST up reply actions
MOOSE ATTACK!
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RAHHHHHHHHRRRRRR JONAS ATTACK!
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Terrible shot by BG, then he doesn't get back in time to prevent the long pass
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Terrible fast break by Knight. It looked like he had options to make a nice play but he turned it over, leading to a Bucks break and a Monroe foul (that didn’t really look like a foul). Booooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!
it ended badly.
but he had the right idea. That’s a play that Stuckey just shoots. The difference that I see between the two of them is that Knight seems willing to improve his decision making v. just saying he will.
I hope so. I like Knight and want him to do well.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
Dammit, we don’t HAVE time!
/Jack Bauer’d
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:40 PM EST up reply actions
Just got back from completing splendiferous supination twists
How well have Knight and Moose played? Box scores shows they’re effective, but I want to know if they’re holding up on defense and if Knight is actually attacking the rim again
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:35 PM EST reply actions
Monroe is a golden God. Knight’s bad plays cancel out his good ones.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:35 PM EST up reply actions
6-8 and 17 points has to be pretty solid though
was he that bad elsewhere?
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:36 PM EST up reply actions
yeah I figured that much
He didn’t show much signs of knowing how to run an offense in Kentucky. I’ve been impressed with his passing ability at times, but he just doesn’t know when is appropriate to pass
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
He's had the right idea a few times...
just passed it to the wrong guy. Basically just small things that are getting turned into bigger things in the wrong direction.
Knight and Moose are both playing great
Knight is definitely attacking the rim, has only taken one 3 (and made it). Moose has been knocking down his shots.
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that's good to hear
I was getting fed up of that random last second jumpshooting
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
we can defend free throws for shit
and Knight would probably look good next to Lebron where he doesn’t have to do point guardy stuff.
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Is it considered beastiality
If seeing Moose sprawling on the floor turns me on?
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:38 PM EST reply actions
meh he's streaky
Fantastic other nights, not worth his contract but he’s not close to awful
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:39 PM EST up reply actions
I don't think he understands his game very well.
he’s more of a catch shoot type player leaning more towards spot up shooting in my opinion. He seems to spend a lot of time attempting to shoot off the dribble. He kills his own effectiveness.
Moose hasn't seemed as active on the defensive end this year
A big part of it might be not having Ben Wallace to help him box out though
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:41 PM EST up reply actions
that's why i specifically picked the word "seemed"
He visably doesn’t look as active to me. He’s still getting the job done most nights but visually something doesn’t look the same
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
He has a higher DRB% than last season. http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/monrogr01.html
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
once again, look at my word choice
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by bearded thundar on Jan 14, 2012 2:12 PM EST up reply actions
I get that
I guess we’re just pointing out that your perception differs from the result. While it may seem that his activity has reduced, his numbers have gone up.
Perhaps, it can be chalked up to his effectivity. His physical activity has a precise use. Rather than engage useless movement.
Fire Joe Dumars
that could be true
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by bearded thundar on Jan 14, 2012 7:39 PM EST up reply actions
He might be exerting himself more offensively, too. He’s definitely more of a centre piece this season as opposed to last when he could focus on everything else.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:42 PM EST up reply actions
lol...18-4 run.
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only 8 turnovers?
must be due for about 15 in the 4th
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or now is fine.
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Frank is tired of calling timouts in blowouts...
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Curse our sudden but inevitable collapse!
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:44 PM EST up reply actions
20/11
God Bless you, Greg.
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I want one of those posters so bad...
that shit would look sweet in my media room.
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hey...HAY!
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this year the pistons are definitely going to compete for the championship
oh god why…
true for any post-2004 season
Stuckey looks surprisingly good
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:48 PM EST reply actions
Yeah.
I have to admit he has played well this game. Hasn’t really shown any rust from being inactive for over a week.
hopefully he plays good enough to play us into the 8th pick.
wait what
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by dandresden on Jan 12, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
POWERS IT UP AND IN.
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That would be the perfect dialogue
for a Monrobocop themed porno
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:49 PM EST up reply actions
YOUR MOVE, CREEP!
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by The Boourns on Jan 12, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We’re both wired into the OCP mainframe.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:53 PM EST up reply actions
NOW YOUR THOUGHTS.
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THATS NOT IRONY! THATS TRAGEDY!
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by The Boourns on Jan 12, 2012 9:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
whoa...a 24 second violation that isn't against us?
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where is will bynum when you need him?
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on the bench where he belongs
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
Bynum's Stats
If Yahoo Sports is right, his +/- per 36 for today is….
…wait for it…
-2,160.
Yes, that’s NEGATIVE TWO THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY.
That has got to, got to, got to be a record. Got to. Three seconds played and opposing team apparently hit a three.
Will Bynum has just played the statistically worst game in the history of the NBA, possibly in the history of basketball at any level.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 10:32 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
LOL
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 12, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
fucking cock dicks.
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can anyone justify me smoking a cigarette now even though i quit and do not approve? i know you can do it
don't do it...
also, study out says marijuana doesn’t affect your lungs in the same way as tobacco and that low to moderate smoking has no physical effect on your lung capacity and is apparently not directly tied to lung cancer.
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You know, Stuckey had the right idea.
He figured Monroe was cutting towards the basket in that situation, especially with the double coming.
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 9:50 PM EST reply actions
lol...
1/2 from beyond the arc? How does that even happen?
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does monroe play the rest of the game?
I hope he does…
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Never! He’s just surrounded by incompetent teammates!
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
That is one handsome man...
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lmao @ Greg looking like Shaft
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:55 PM EST reply actions
fuck stephen jackson.
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Moose is just killing it
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:56 PM EST reply actions
Nice play by Maxiell
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:57 PM EST reply actions
why the fuck is ben gordon passing up wide open 3 pointers?
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only to pass to damien wilkins...
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…..who promptly stepped out of bounds….
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
to be unfair
he gets paid the same whether he takes them or not
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We gotta figure out a way to get Greg Monroe to the All-Star game.
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 9:57 PM EST reply actions
I can't believe he wasn't on ESPN's MIP list
I can see him not being popular enough to be an all star, but come on he’s been on fire. At least throw him a chewed up bone
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
Having an amazing night
but only averaging 14/8 coming into this game. Not all-star worthy yet. He’ll be one eventually though IMO.
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his PER was over 25 for a while
and before that oddly horrible game he was at 15 and 10
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
Al Horford averaged 15/9 and went to the All-Star team last year.
Greg is damn close.
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
Someone already took out Horford
Who’s the other competition? Hawes?
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Jan 12, 2012 9:59 PM EST up reply actions
If he's considered PF or C in the voting?
Obviously Dwight and KG would be the front runners for either of those positions
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
He's never getting in for voting
But he could be a coaches/players choice
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Jan 12, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
I'm thinking you're right about Hawes
He’s been on fire this year, but I don’t see him keeping it up. The main advantage he has though is Philly has a much better record
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
yeah...Kevin Love barely made the all-star game last year.
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by The Boourns on Jan 12, 2012 10:03 PM EST up reply actions
this was my thinking
when I called him an All Star lock in a recent game preview. I’m nearly certain he’ll get the All Star Reserve nod.
We have to do the same thing we did for Avila.
I have no idea how we can replicate it, but dammit, we must try!
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Seriously guys?
Our first stop in forever and you don’t rebound…
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:57 PM EST reply actions
at least they redeemed themselves the second time
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
lol...why did I click on this?
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Does anyone remember the thunderous lob dunk
in the NCAA game against (I think) Temple. Probably Elite Eight. Michigan had been down and had just taken the lead and this dunk—so loud and forceful that I have a mental image of the camera shaking—put the knife in Temple.
It’s weird what we remember, isn’t it? And it’s quite possible that this never happened, or was quite different from what I recall.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 10:39 PM EST up reply actions
Daye looks really weird with a rounder face
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:00 PM EST reply actions
27
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:05 PM EST up reply actions
so he has broken it :D
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:06 PM EST up reply actions
Moose is my fantasy stud!
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 12, 2012 10:05 PM EST reply actions
Moose and B Knight
all i honestly care about. I will happily take Drummond or Davis, that is if he shaves his unibrow
I want a shotblocker with no eyebrows

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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Only if his power level is over 9,000.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
no way dude...
where do you think he gets all of his powers? He’s a modern day Samson.
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by The Boourns on Jan 12, 2012 10:08 PM EST up reply actions
One of my favorite youtube videos/music videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFlBJ1xZK10
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Sorry Man
all I learned from that video is if you’re going to roll, don’t roll and drink at the same time.
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by V. on Jan 13, 2012 6:17 AM EST up reply actions
lol.
then you got more from it than most do.
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"Here comes the brand new flava in ya ear!"
-Craig “Mack” Monroe
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Jan 12, 2012 10:07 PM EST up reply actions
Me Too Actually..
is he still in baseball?
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by V. on Jan 13, 2012 6:17 AM EST up reply actions
I doubt it.
Last I knew he was playing for the Twins. He’s more then likely rotting as filler in a minor league organization right now.
unibrow or bust
after that I don’t care. Barnes just so someone can attempt to put Tay out of his misery.
by mcflies on Jan 12, 2012 10:10 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Clearly they're tanking
Can’t accidentally win this game. They’ll put him back in once the lead is back up to double digits.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Jan 12, 2012 10:09 PM EST up reply actions
Did you call?
Oh, you said “Holy.”
by Toledo Joe on Jan 13, 2012 9:34 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Tay looked incredulous after Knight was called for traveling.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 10:14 PM EST reply actions
holy Moose
now he’s driving it to the lane like a guard
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:15 PM EST reply actions
oh hell yes!
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 12, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
In '09 and '10, I just cared about Stafford and Johnson, rather than a Lions win
How many years will I just care about Monroe and Gordon, rather than a Pistons win?
We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 12, 2012 10:16 PM EST reply actions
better question
Why do you still care about Gordon?
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I seriously hate these new ads
Half the time I switch back to this tab I end up clicking on them
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:16 PM EST reply actions
no way
That would be a massive insult to Ben
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:18 PM EST up reply actions
Gordon.........
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:18 PM EST reply actions
Who was that foul on
Delfino hit Gordon twice before he got the ball.
Man, getting your pocket picked like that is so demoralizing for everyone. I always used to hate when that happened in games I was playing.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 10:19 PM EST reply actions
Nice defense by Knight
Especially considering the size disadvantage
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:21 PM EST reply actions
WHAT THE FUCK TAY
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions
Bucks announcers calling out Tay. “Brandon Knight feeling a little frustrated… thought Prince should have swung that ball back around to him but instead shot an air ball…”
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 10:23 PM EST reply actions
precisely what he's paid to do
by mcflies on Jan 12, 2012 10:28 PM EST via Android app up reply actions

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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
What about rhythm?
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
That's High Praise
Vlade was pretty good and fundamentally sound. So good, he got dealt for the pick that became Kobe (is that why Kobe used to wear #8?)
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by V. on Jan 13, 2012 6:19 AM EST up reply actions
I hope he carries this confidence for the rest of the year. He needs to realize how good he really is.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
Technically he can't.
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
Right, but as a rookie he's a restricted free agent.
So we can match any offer he accepts.
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
If I was GM I’d give him ALL THE MONEY!
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
I'd give him all the bacon and eggs we have.
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions

“How about we just give him half of our bacon and eggs. And then we get a second breakfast in an hour, and we keep all the bacon and eggs.”
Here, Joe. Have this:

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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
It's why I laugh when people go "OMG Blake is going to be gone in two years anyway!"
lrn2cba
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions
lrn2cba
I need to do dis. Makes me happy, because all I want for the next 10 christmas’s is for GREG MONROE TO RETIRE A PISTON.
Well just think.
You think LeBron would spend his first 7 years in Cleveland if he had to?
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions
I was thinking this exactly last night.
If I’m him, there’s no way I’m sticking it out in Detroit with the current mess of a roster we have and will have for at least one more season.
The only hope we have is to make this a really excellent draft, then amnesty Gordon or CV, then add something useful via free agency.
It can’t be multiple choice. It has to be all of those things.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
Exactly, and even then
We’re probably a .500 team at best. With all three of those things happening (and working out as well as they realistically could).
Very few rookies bolt before they Re-up as long as the team wants to MAX them
in fact does anyone know any?
if a team wants to keep you
they can. just gotta pay up. and i thought the new CBA had ridiculous clauses in it such as an all-star game or two or three makes you eligible for separate payscale tiers, so in a sense maybe we should be hoping monroe stays under the radar and doesn’t make the all-star team.
GUYS YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS I SWEAR, there are 4 episodes if you find the first one amazing watch it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJ4T9CQA0UM
nuff said
nuff said
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 12, 2012 10:29 PM EST up reply actions
I'm surprised it took this long
by mcflies on Jan 12, 2012 10:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Sad accomplishment
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 12, 2012 10:28 PM EST up reply actions
I'm playing "B. Davidson's Estate" in DBB fantasy
and dude has Stephen Jackson. Come on, now.
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 12, 2012 10:27 PM EST reply actions
lol!
Tough luck man. He definitely picked the right game to play him.
Moose is saving my ass.
As is “Davidson’s Estate’s” apparent lack of desire to change his line up.
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 12, 2012 10:30 PM EST up reply actions
sammamish
Sam-mam-ish
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Tayshaun Prince +/-
I think Tayshaun Prince must be dead last in the NBA in +/-. He was -123 before tonight and he’s -13 against the Bucks last time I checked. What the heck is going on with Prince?
I hate +/-
Tay was 19 tonight but Monroe was -9. The only Piston with a decent +/ was Wilkins, who was 0-2 with 1 rebound, no assists, 2 TOs, and 2 total points. But he was +10.
It makes sense though
Wilkins was on the court during our run in place of Tay. Notice that 10-19 not coincidentally = -9
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
Since you were nice enough to explain that to me
I will politely pretend I understand (note: any lack of understanding is my fault, not yours).
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by Grant E. on Jan 13, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
+/-
I don’t think +/- is perfect but it’s a decent tool to judge within your own team where runs are being made. The Pistons fall more behind with Tay on the court than they do with any other player. Kevin Durant had a bad +/- a few years ago that was deceptive because he was carrying a huge load on a bad team. Prince’s chief virtues are supposed to be his savvy and defense, both of which should show up in +/-.
Monroe, BG, and Prince all played 35+ minutes tonight. Monroe was -9, Gordon was -8, Prince was -19. Why are the Pistons worse with Prince on the court? Is it a statistical fluke or is Prince just that much worse than other options?
I'm a stat nerd
and I still can’t figure out what +/- says about anything. I really don’t think it has any value whatsoever. maybe at the end of an entire season if you want to take a look and see ridiculous outliers that might stand out that’s about it.
by mcflies on Jan 12, 2012 11:49 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Prince
its clear given those stats that he didn’t share the same minutes as Gordon and Monroe. So who did he play with when they weren’t on the court? If he played the same minutes as Monroe what would the effect be on Monroe’s +/-? Maybe it wasn’t Prince and it was the players he shared the court with. Don’t get me wrong Prince blows, but to use +/- to prove it is pointless because it has too many factors to be reliable.
by mcflies on Jan 12, 2012 11:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Prince and statistics
I don’t think +/- is as meaningless as it’s being made out. Various adjusted +/- is used by many teams to judge talent and it’s some version of +/- is largely why Chuck Hayes stays in the NBA. Prince is supposed to be a versatile SF who can facilitate the offense, play good D. Plus/minus should effect him least of all if you believe his reputation.
You need a mix of talents to win basketball games. Nobody really knows the mix in any given moment. Is it 5 players that play well together like the last Pistons champion? Is it a guard and center like Kobe and Shaq? Is it Pippen, Jordan and Rodman? And Horace Grant? Like I said, nobody really knows and you can try to win any number of ways. However you do it, the end result means you score more points than the opposition. +/- is a crude tool to measure who is on the court when you are scoring more or less than the opposition. In
What advanced stats should I be looking at to see if Prince is playing defense? One-sixth of the season is over. How big does the sample size have to be before it’s realistic to point to trends and make adjustments?
Here’s the problem with +/- when you compare it to box score based stats: Let’s say I’m the coach of a team and one of my players has a crappy +/-, what do I tell that player? How do I know what he needs to improve to become a more productive player according to +/-?
RE: Adjusted +/-, even according to its creators and biggest proponents it takes several years of data on a player until it becomes meaningful.
I don't even remember what it means to be honest.
I used to know, then it just seemed stupid to me, so I stopped caring.
Prince all season
I’m not trying to kill Prince for one game, just trying to figure out what kind of sample is meaningful. 11 games? 33 games? 103 games? In a small sample, no player has fallen farther behind than the opposition than Prince this year.
Based on subjective measures I think Prince is about the 7th or 8th best Piston this year yet he’s playing the most minutes. I’m trying to find some objectivity to confirm my assessment.
Win Shares and Wins Produced
both have Tay well into the negative range. Both of those are more reliable than +/- IMO.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
Prince is supposed to be a versatile SF who can facilitate the offense, play good D. Plus/minus should effect him least of all if you believe his reputation.
Especially since he has had an excellent +/- since they started touting the metric. It’s one of those tools that supposedly values intangibles, something Tay is supposed to be the master of.
moral victory!
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 12, 2012 10:31 PM EST up reply actions
Greg Monroe ain't da future
he’s da now.
by Mike Payne on Jan 12, 2012 10:30 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
Tayshaun a -18 on the floor
no one else came close to that bad.
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As I was trying to say above, with crappy formatting
+/- is weird. Monroe was -9, Wilkins was +10 despite having almost no positive stats of any kind.
Both teams shot free throws hard.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 10:33 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
rec’d for potential viagra ad
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:34 PM EST up reply actions
I can't wait until I have internet at my new house.
So I can see Moose dominate! As we lose, over and over…
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 12, 2012 10:32 PM EST reply actions
Was it just me
or did Milwaukee look more empty than the palace?
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:35 PM EST reply actions
off 19-25 shooting as well
only weakness to their game was the 7 TOs
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
yeah
i feel like that is fixable however
by need4detroit on Jan 12, 2012 10:37 PM EST up reply actions
of which Monroe had 2
in 40 minutes of play, which is fucking unreal for a centre of his level of usage tonight.
Knight however, that egg is all over his face.
Knight and Monore shoot 19-25
Yet the team shoots 33-74. Jonas was 2-4, so everyone not named Knight, Monroe, or Jerebko was 12-45.
I'm more worried Jonas had 2 rebounds
And is averaging 6 on the season. Not a PF. I would rather bring him off the bench at the 3 and start Maxiell than watch him end up becoming ineffective due to fouls game after game. He’s averaging a grand total of 23 mpg these past 5 games
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by bearded thundar on Jan 12, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions
I’m okay with that. Get Jerebko in the mix and I’m really okay with that.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions
Not that +/- is a good stat, but:
Tayshaun Prince: -19
Damien Wilkins: +10
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions
That's what I've been trying to say!
+/- is a crappy stat. Look at what Wilkins actually did. Also, Monroe was -9.
Ok.. So lets say Detroit doesnt get Davis or Jefferson
would you take Sullinger or Harrison Barnes. You take Barnes…. you have a PG, C and SF to build off
who is Jefferson? Sullinger/Monroe don’t fit together very well, as much as I love Sullinger. If it’s him or Barnes, I might even consider drafting Sullinger just to trade him.
what about that other guy, the one that is basically Rasheed Wallace, the best player out of the last five drafts?
I would take Davis in a heartbeat
but I feel as though Sterns not going to rig the lottery for us.
by need4detroit on Jan 12, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions
Then DBB will just have to rig it Ocean's 11 Style.
OK from J can be our token Asian!
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions
one trade concept I'd consider
on draft day: Jared Sullinger and Rodney Stuckey for Josh Smith and Atlanta’s first round pick. Atlanta is losing Hinrich this season, Sullinger could swap with Smith and Stuckey and Teague can man the starting point and sixth man roles in ATL’s backcourt.
this is, of course, if Davis is off the board. I’m not into Drummond. He’s a big boy against little schools, but his balls shrink the moment he has solid NCAA competition, let alone NBA-caliber competition.
I didn’t pay attention to Kwame in college, so I don’t follow the comparison, but if he did what Drummond has done so far, yes— let’s put a red flag on Drummond until further notice.
Kwame didn't play in college?
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by The Boourns on Jan 12, 2012 11:40 PM EST up reply actions
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 10:46 PM EST up reply actions
Wasn't Gordon shooting 3-14 (with no 3-pointers)
more of a problem than Tay, who at least hit a couple of big hoops in the comeback attempt?
Pancreatic cancer or rectal cancer...
Which one ya prefer, Toledo Joe?
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions
Is it just me or does that chef on fire to the left look like Steve Nash?
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 10:42 PM EST reply actions
Greg Monroe won player of the game with only 33% of the vote?
Who are you other 67% fucktards? Answer me!
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions
I voted for Tayshaun
I graded him on a curve, though
You do know he scored, right?
We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 12, 2012 10:49 PM EST up reply actions
I'm going to choke you with your own trachea now.
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 12, 2012 10:50 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe some people voted Wilkins for his team high +10
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Okay, I wrote it above, but this needs more attention
Will Bynum has just had the WORST STATISTICAL GAME IN THE HISTORY OF BASKETBALL. At any level of basketball.
He apparently took the floor for one three second stint and Milwaukee hit a three. Thus, his +/- per 36 was…
NEGATIVE 2,160.
This is mind boggling. I do accept the argument that if he’d been given more burn, that number would have come down a tad.
Oh, and I see that Tay picked up a rebound. Good on ya, Tay!
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions
That number is fricken hilarious!
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 12, 2012 11:53 PM EST up reply actions
I like how Monroe’s game isn’t just put backs and hustle points now. He has a huge variety of low post and mid-range moves. And his awesome passing ability wasn’t even on display tonight. I love Moose. Moosey Moose Moose.
by garrettelliott on Jan 12, 2012 10:47 PM EST reply actions
There was a time last year
When I thought that Moose was getting points because of TMac.
Now that I look at it, T Mac was getting assists because of Moose.
by need4detroit on Jan 12, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
TMac Is A Douche
But he can still play. If he wasn’t such a douche, he’d be playing for a real contender and not the Hawks.
This is DBB, and this is what we do.
by V. on Jan 13, 2012 6:22 AM EST up reply actions
tomorrow
looks like our only shot at a win for the next 25 games. holy fucking schedule.
by mcflies on Jan 12, 2012 10:54 PM EST via Android app reply actions
When you're as bad as us
a .333 team looks like the World Champs
We have our man. It's Stafford. It's Suh. It's Calvin. It's Delmas. What we need is Man Number Two to stand up.
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 12, 2012 10:58 PM EST up reply actions
i think my irrational hatred for 4/5 of this team is making me unable to appreciate the good things they do
im happy moose came up big but i fucking hate tayshaun and im sick of stuckey. it makes it hard to appreciate the positives.
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To be fair, Dan,
Stuckey is a decent player. He doesn’t turn the ball over is our best perimeter defender and gets to the line. He’s not a great shooter and doesn’t shoot for a high percentage. But I don’t have a doubt that he could play a valuable role on a good team. Signing him for his 26th, 27th, and 28th years is okay to me.
Signing Tay for years 31, 32, 33, and 34 is insane. Based on his LAST four years, this contract would have been okay, but not a particularly great deal. But to project this into the future is one of the dumbest basketball moves I’ve seen. Frankly, I see the Tay signing as worse the Gordon or Charlie. At least that was a team that we’d hoped could be competitive and if both played to max potential, they could have helped the team. But Tay was signed long term to a 20-30 win (full season) team and it’s hard to imagine any scenario in which he would be a useful part of a 50 win Detroit Pistons team at any point in this contract.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 11:54 PM EST up reply actions
key word is irrational
i know these players arent that awful, its just something about their faces makes me want to punch them.
But I don’t have a doubt that he could play a valuable role on a good team.
this team sucks though.
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Agreed completely on this last part.
And I sure do get being irrational, (though I’m less convinced that hating Tay’s presence is at all irrational).
But with Stuckey, I dislike those who designed this shitty team far more than I do him.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 13, 2012 12:29 AM EST up reply actions
I'm Not Worried About The Tay Signing
I’d be very surprised if he didn’t get dealt sometime before the trade deadline this year or next year. I mean, he’s playing like he wants to be moved now, and I’m pretty sure Dumars will accommodate him.
Just a question of where he can be shipped (contender) and what big Dumars can get for him.
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by V. on Jan 13, 2012 6:40 AM EST up reply actions
1) What contender has anything that we’d want?
2) How is your scenario better than simply having the cap space we’d have had by not re-signing him?
The absolute best-case scenario is an expiring and a pick. And that’s reaching, IMHO.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
a pick?
seriously, i think tay might be the most untradeable piston right now on a team full of untradeable peoples.
Base-case scenario, as in shitting unicorns while sitting on a rainbow while drinking kool aid.
I think we’re stuck with the man. I’m simply responding to V’s comment that we’re dealing him to a contender.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
maybe
we can offer the Lakers a 2nd rounder and Prince for their trade exception. It’s a reach, but I’m sure Koostis misses him some Isolayshaun.
Not that Dumars would ever do anything, period. But I can dream.
I would do this in a heartbeat actually...beats the Artest for Tay trade I suggested.
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honestly
as bad as tay looks and/or is, the lakers don’t have shit for anyone to handle the ball. kobe’s usage rate is through the roof, and his passing rate is the highest it’s ever been, because he has to have the ball all the time. fisher sucks. artest and barnes probably couldn’t even get the ball past half court.
so they could use some isolayshaun, it would probably save kobe his life this season.
I can't imagine reuniting Tay and Koostis
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 13, 2012 9:58 PM EST up reply actions
maybe we could finnagle Matt Barnes out of such a deal, too.
Throw in Max for Barnes. They could use some insurance up front, and Barnes can play undersized PF.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
Lakers would probably take an Artest for Tay swap...
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we could probably get a 2nd rounder out of them to go along with it.
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not sure...but World Peace with 2 years left beats Tay with 4 years left...
and we could start JJ at the 3 and Artest off the bench behind him. Or still go with JJ at the 4 and start Artest at the 3. Ron would get a lot more scoring opportunities and his rap career could explode in the gritty city of D-town.
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I'm with you, buddy.
It’s not completely rational or justifiable. Stuckey is our best guard by quite a bit, but I really can’t stand to watch him play. It’s not really about his play, although it’s partially that. It’s about the attitude he’s had for the past couple season. It’s that in spite of making some progress, he’s nowhere near what we need him to be. Etc.
And with Gordon, I’ve just never liked him, less so as a Piston than ever.
And well, we all understand the frustration with Tay.
Anyway, being a fan (i.e., fanatic) is sort of non-rational / irrational by definition. I don’t think anyone needs to feel apologetic, regardless of their state of emotions with respect to this particular group of players.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
link? or sarcasm?
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by The Boourns on Jan 12, 2012 11:41 PM EST up reply actions
He also thought about coming out of retirement during his last three years on the payroll.
But he decided not to.
(Burn…)
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 12, 2012 11:55 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
I ain't deprecating self
I’m deprecating Sheed.
Guy basically didn’t try hard or stay in shape for the last three years of his career. His laziness with the Celts cost Boston a championship, as they needed him to be ready to play four quarters in game seven, not three.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 13, 2012 3:35 AM EST up reply actions
Oh I thought you were defecating on Sheed...
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Watching these motherfuckers play makes me want to reach for Milwaukee's best
then a pistol
Detroit Pistlols
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they beat us pretty soundly.
were we ever ahead?
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
we were ahead 41-40...in the 2nd quarter.
That is the only time we’ve been ahead in a game since the first quarter of the Knicks game. I think its now 15 consecutive quarters of playing from behind with the exception of that 30 second span last night.
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32 and 16?
Greg Monroe is the greatest basketball player in the Milky Way.
Neal Degrasse Tyson, what’s that you’re looking at up there?

“The Monroe-verse. We’re living in it, motherfucker.”
by TDP on Jan 13, 2012 2:12 AM EST reply actions 3 recs
How many other players in Pistons history have scored 32 points and 16 rebounds in a single game?
also, per minute
Greg’s game is the second best in Pistons history w/r/t points and rebounds. Only Grant Hill had one single game better than Monroe did, and he did so with 43 minutes to Monroe’s < 40 minutes back in 1997.
You know what sucks?
Knights solid game (turnovers excluded) is overshadowed by Moose’s phenomenal game which is overshadowed by the loss and Dwight Howard setting records tonight. :/
How many times did Dwight Howard put up 32 points and 16 rebounds when he was Greg Monroe’s age or younger?
zero.
I can't still over this after someone said it last night
I knew it, but I didn’t recall it. This guy that looks, already, so big and mature into his game is only in his second year in the league. Not only that but he’s 21, which probably means he still has some growth left in his body. He looks stronger and more mobile than last year, he has shown far more offensive moves than last year, and he’s more confident than last year. His FT percentage has gone from .62% last year to .82% this year…can you fucking believe that?! He’s a fucking center (in use) and he’s fucking 21 years old! Fuck you bitches, Greg Monroe owns you.
Fire Joe Dumars
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You know
Sorta puts a damper on the we need a center argument. He is obviously capable of playing this position. 32-16 on 12-16 shooting. While drawing help side defense. Loving this damn kid more and more just when i thought it wasn’t possible. If he is able to consistently preform from the center position it will make the rebuild a little easier for sure.
We may have a starting center
but you should have a 4 big rotation and we have #1 (Monroe) and maybe #3 if Jerebko can find his stride this season. I’m starting to think he may be better off the bench, but I would still like him to see most of his minutes at PF. He just seems to be too foul prone to rely on for 30 minutes a game at this point. We’ve also got Ben as the #4 big for those spot minutes. Seems like we just need a starting PF and then we can get to work at guard and SF.
but you should have a 4 big rotation

Brow Down.
by Mike Payne on Jan 13, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
He kinds of looks like a Star Wars character.
by garrettelliott on Jan 13, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
From the cantina?
I agree completely. Here’s to hoping he doesn’t talk like Jar Jar Binx.
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it's going up against opposing C's that worries me
Moose has been in a little bit of foul trouble. I’d love to have a defensive-oriented C to throw at opposing big men to make sure he stays out of it.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
at least someone who can realistically rotate with Greg every other possession or so
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Happy For Him
Hey, Antoine Walker’s playing in the D League, too. Maybe we can pick him up!
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by V. on Jan 13, 2012 6:41 AM EST up reply actions
Well, back when we were good, we had a category of player
“Backup SF with fabulous hair.” See also Herrmann, Walter. But see Hamm, Darvin.
Yeah the point being his name is spelled with an F, not a ph...
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A little something on Greg's offensive approach By the Hardwood Paroxism
http://www.hardwoodparoxysm.com/2012/01/breakneck-slow/
Fire Joe Dumars
For much of the season, Monroe’s elite-level passing ability and vision has made him look like Detroit’s best distributor.

KHAAAAAAAAAAN(doooooooor)!
by Grant E. on Jan 13, 2012 2:56 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs

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