Pistons host Grizzlies: Detroit, Monroe Look to get their Groove Back
by Sean_Corp on Jan 20, 2012 11:01 AM EST
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PrintMemphis Grizzlies at Detroit Pistons, Jan 20, 2012 7:30 PM EST
The Pistons will be looking to shake off Wednesday's crushing 93-85 defeat at the hands of the Minnesota Timberwolves when they host the Memphis Grizzlies on Friday. Considering the myriad flaws on the Pistons roster, they match up relatively well against Memphis, who is without arguably their best player in former Michigan State Spartan Zach Randolph. The Pistons are expected to be without Will Bynum (foot) and Charlie Villanueva (ankle). But don't worry, Walker Russell Jr. is here to rescue the team! UPDATE: Rodney Stuckey is out tonight, so Russell Jr. will be the first guard off the bench. Uh oh.
It's also Super 70s night at the Palace, which features the awesome poster at the right to the first 10,000 fans as well as a halftime performance from Rose Royce singing "Carwash" and perhaps another song or two I've never heard of. Even if the Pistons lose, I look forward to hearing a bunch of corny 70s puns from Greg Kelser and George Blaha. Bonus points if an afro wig or giant gold jewelry enter the equation.
Game Tips at 7:30 P.M. EST
Detroit Pistons: 3 - 12 (2 - 4 home)
Memphis Grizzlies: 7 - 6 (2 - 4 road)
The Situation:
The Memphis Grizzlies were a hot pick before the season to join the upper echelon of the Western Conference, with many expecting the Los Angeles Lakers and defending champion Dallas Mavericks to take a step backwards. While the Griz have struggled to a 7-6 record, they have righted the ship lately, winning their last four. The Pistons are coming back home from an extremely winnable game in Minnesota that they let slip through their fingers. If Detroit, who has lost nine of its last 10, wants to avoid being the worst team in the league (does Detroit want to avoid it?), these are the kinds of games it has to pull out, especially on its home floor.
Keys to the Game:
Get Out to a Fast Start - Following Wednesday's defeat, with the Pistons running out of gas in the fourth quarter and snatching defeat out of the jaws of victory, we will learn a lot from the first quarter of this game. On its current four-game winning streak, Memphis has been getting off to hot starts, scoring 56.7 first-half points. Detroit, meanwhile, has to shake off the bad taste from the Minnesota loss and show some resolve. The Pistons could either get run out of the gym within the first seven minutes of the game or dig deep and indicate they are ready to battle for four quarters.
Own the Paint - This is a big one for a lot of reasons. While starting center Marc Gasol is going to be a handful for the Pistons, Memphis only has one player that measures as tall as 6-foot-8 coming off the bench -- Dante Cunningham. By necessity the Grizzlies slide starting small forward Rudy Gay to the power forward position, where he gets about 20 percent of his minutes.
The only thing scarier than the defensive liabilities of the Pistons starting front court is the all-around liabilities of the Pistons big men off the bench. Jonas Jerebko and Jason Maxiell simply don't have the size and strength to compete. Memphis won't present nearly as many problems because of their own lack of size. Gay's speed might put Jerebko in his customary early foul trouble, but if he can make the refs swallow their whistles, Jerebko could have a nice game.
One thing Memphis' lack of size does is limit rebounding opportunities. It shouldn't surprise anyone that a team that is missing one of the NBA's premier rebounders in Randolph has struggled in this department. Memphis is one of the worst defensive rebounding teams in the NBA. Detroit doesn't shoot for a high percentage so it must get second-chance opportunities.
And while its lack of size has hurt its rebounding prowess, Memphis still manages to score a ton of points in the paint. While only scoring 93.5 points per game (17th in the league), the Grizzlies score 45.2 points in the paint, fourth most in the NBA. The Griz don't wow you with ball movement (27th in assists). They don't rely on 3-pointers and they don't care about getting to the free-throw line. They have a pretty basic offense predicated on getting inside looks. The Pistons must be aware of that fact and limit the Grizzlies' effectiveness.
Don't Turn the Ball Over - Whereas the Pistons have exactly zero players that average more than a steal per game, Memphis has five such players (including the injured Randolph). The Grizzlies play aggressive D, especially in the backcourt. Mike Conley is averaging 2.5 steals per game and Tony Allen is chipping in 1.7. Brandon Knight has not shown the ability to protect the ball and you better believe that the Grizzlies plan to take full advantage of that fact.
Tayshaun Prince Needs to Stay Hot - The Palace Punching Bag Prince has been on fire lately, averaging 22.5 points in his last four games, including 29 points in the loss to Minnesota. Gay is making $15 million per year, but he isn't playing like a $15 million player. He's had a pretty "meh" year so far so this is a matchup the Pistons could win. For the Pistons to have a chance they need someone to actually make shots, and that person might as well be Prince.
Question of the Game:
What's the over/under on number of Pistons turnovers? Who will be the X-factor for Detroit? For Memphis? Will Marc Gasol have a better game against the Pistons than Kevin Love did?
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I'll take the Under
Pistons come out of their loser shells tonight and destroy the Grizz. Jonas will put up another beauty, and Monroe will go for 25/12 in addition to JJ’s 20/11.
Knight will hit 4 threes, 3 floaters, and a wicked hard dunk over Haddadi in the 4th after the blowout has been locked up.
Lastly, Stuckey will outplay Conley by racking up 3 steals, a block, 16 points on 14 FTA attempts (lots of HAY tonight boys), and 8 dimes.
PS – Daye will play 7 minutes and go 1-9. He’ll get one rebound off his own miss, but before getting it back up, he’ll get it swiped for the Pistons only turnover of the night.
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by The Boourns on Jan 20, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Stuckey isnt playing tonight
tony allen will have like 40 steals off knight/bg
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no way.
Knight will rack up 9 steals, 4 blocks, and 36 rebounds.
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Rodney Stuckey out
And that means that Walker Russell Jr. is the first guard off the bench. And that means that I will definitely take the over.
Well there goes my fantasy (above)
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by The Boourns on Jan 20, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Love the fact that we just paid a dude $8M to be injured.
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by The Boourns on Jan 20, 2012 12:31 PM EST up reply actions
at least we can amnesty CV...
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by The Boourns on Jan 20, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
is there any other team in the league with so much dead weight?
Our top 4 highest paid players are horribly inefficient or practically worthless. tay, bg, stuck and cv are all overpaid for their performances.
by C$ on Jan 20, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions
Unfortunately The Pistons Haven't Been In The Groove Since
Billups was traded and Hammond left.
Billups still winning games for playoff teams years after Joe D. traded to make way for Stuckey
Trading Billups For Iverson
has to go down as one of the Pistons worst all-time trades
Joe D.’s legacy will forever be marred by the Darko pick and Billups trade.
As it should be...
But the years of inactivity since have been inexcusable.
Think about it this way. Dallas really wanted Tayshaun and would have given us an expiring contract + a 1st round draft pick for him. That 1st round pick could have been enough to move one of our other horrendous contracts.
We could have been well on our way to re-structuring had JoD made that one trade. And the ridiculous thing about it was that it was one of the very few trades that actually FIT into what Karen Davidson was allowing JoD to do (take on expiring contracts and no new salary, plus a draft pick to boot.
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but that draft pick had a cap hold or some shit or whatever the dumbass reason was for not making that trade
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its still worth more than the cap hold on it...
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yeah i agree, i was just regurgitating whatever the tired ass line was at the time when that trade didnt go through
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STOP IT!
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Eh, personally the moment he's gone, all that shit will be forgotten MiB-style.
At which point all I will remember is that glorious 2004 and when someone brings up the Billups trade I will yell “Swamp gas!”
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 20, 2012 2:20 PM EST up reply actions
Swamp gas...what I had the past 3 days due ot all the chili I ate
Been snowed in for the entire week. Not a bad time really, although I’ve been drinking nothing but wine…wouldn’t mind having a couple cool beers but its better that I’m not drinking them.
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it would definitely make the fact that I sold my MS stock last week and after our earnings report it's gone up 7% in the past 2 days.
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a lot easier to swallow...
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my childhood team versus my adulthood team
who will I root for? even more pressing, which SBNation blog will I haunt tonight?! The suspense is killing me
Nate Dogg
Don’t make me put a badass photo of Nate Dogg in the thread. I’m not above bribery.
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For all the hopefuls out there...
word on the street is Moose posters are for the first 10,000. That’s not a huge number, so it’s forseeable there won’t be extras. That won’t prevent me from doing my best to score some extras for the DBB folks not in MI.
i think only like 11,000 have been going to the games
so if it snows like its supposed to i dont think lots of people will making the trip to watch the Grizz kick our asses.
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yeah i think its less than that...
not sure whether they base attendance on ticket sales or actual people through the door, but it doesn’t look half full in that arena on any night outside of opening night.
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Attendance
Pistons averaging 11,719, last in the league, according to ESPN. I’d say everyone has a pretty good shot at getting a poster.
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this blows my mind.
Detroiters as fair weather fans? Surely management is taking notice.
What was attendance like in the grim Lindsey Hunter/Allan Houston days?
probably just as bad.
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eh every city is fair weather when they are losing
I mean you have certain teams that just a good for a long time and fans show up. It is not til about a year or two after the team starts to lose a lot more than it wins will you see less fans show up.
I'm disappointed George and Greg didn't dress up for 70's night.
Would someone with Photoshop skills be willing to post their faces on some sort of “Saturday Night Fever” type of thing? Trust me, doing that would be much more entertaining that watches our asses get kicked by the Grizzlies. Do it for the kids.
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ITS WAY MORE THA NTHAT
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UNSTOPPABLE MOOSE.
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boo ya ka sha.
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MOOSE JAM!
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uhhhh did tony alen not just double dribble right there?
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FUCKING CALLED IT!
Thanks Greg!
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greg monroe is beasting tonight...
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Our defense looks pretty decent so far.
Shocking!
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Ugh...fuck speights.
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Nice move by Greg even if it didn't work
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this was turnover however
I really impressed High and Low offense by Memphis.
It should be our play style with Monroe.
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UH OH!!!!
Austin Daye is comin’ to play!
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whoops...
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Daye's playing alongside a D-league player.
That’s probably making him feel more at home.
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Hey, refs, we don't need your help to lose
We perfectly capable of doing that ourselves.
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Gay is better than Daye
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Fixed for you
Gay Everyone is better than Daye
by DesolationRow on Jan 20, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Nice Matador defense Daye.
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Nice dish by WRJ
too bad it was to Daye
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I hate these xfinity cmmercials...
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We scored 12 points in the first.
Per 48 minutes, that equals something like 48 points for the whole game. This could get ugly.
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Yeah but we held them to 22...thats pretty good for us.
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The eternal optimist
Blaha, is that you?
by DesolationRow on Jan 20, 2012 8:09 PM EST up reply actions
Per 48, that means we will only lose by 40.
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JJ just saved Daye.
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Hey guys, how longuntil we call Daye a bust????
by Aris Kafadogias on Jan 20, 2012 8:10 PM EST reply actions
Negative 7 years.
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Ok because some still believe he is a good young player with star potential and its driving me nuts
by Aris Kafadogias on Jan 20, 2012 8:13 PM EST up reply actions
JJ's acne seems to be clearing up.
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I'm liking me some Russell Jr.
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minus the missed free throw...
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You know it's a bad sign
when you bring up a D-leaguer and he looks pretty good compared to the rest of our guys.
by DesolationRow on Jan 20, 2012 8:17 PM EST up reply actions
more passy I think..
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our defence makes Gay look like Dr. J then he looks like Iceman this is going pretty nicely
by Aris Kafadogias on Jan 20, 2012 8:17 PM EST reply actions
I do not want to say that
that Gay finger-roll was very beautiful.
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by OK from J on Jan 20, 2012 8:18 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
this is terrible.
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Defense is pretty good.
Offense is gawd-awful.
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We suck so much I’m just laughing it out terrible is too soft a word to describe it
by Aris Kafadogias on Jan 20, 2012 8:28 PM EST reply actions
What was that I once said about our defense being decent?
I take it all back. Our defense sucks.
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game over at the half
i wanna see Macklin get some decent game time in the second.
see if we got anything
Games like this makes you wonder if we are going to reach 10 wins this years.
by Aris Kafadogias on Jan 20, 2012 8:44 PM EST reply actions
I agree.
I want it to be painfully obvious what kind of roster JOD assembled here.
by DesolationRow on Jan 20, 2012 8:48 PM EST up reply actions
You, sir, are definitely not a bandwagon ass cat.
Only a true fan would do something crazy like that. Or a masochist.
by DesolationRow on Jan 20, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Pretty sure that if you are posting here, or even lurking
You’re probably not a bandwagon ass cat. This is a team that only a mother or the sickest fanatic could love.
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 21, 2012 3:10 AM EST up reply actions
I'm admitting my illness.
Hi, my name is Jeremy. I’ve been on Pistons for it seems like a decade, it doesn’t even get me high anymore, and I still can’t seem to quit.
What's a hundred million between friends? Make a deal and let's get on with it.
by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 21, 2012 3:13 AM EST up reply actions
FFS Ben Gordon really SUCKS omg with this guy
by Aris Kafadogias on Jan 20, 2012 9:01 PM EST reply actions
Sadly...
I dropped him two games after he and Moose decided to get all 20-10 style for a minute. It ended quickly for Jonas, while Moose continues to look studly.
And fuck you, spell check. Studly should be a word already.
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 21, 2012 3:17 AM EST up reply actions
BK is certainly getting his money worth this game
by Aris Kafadogias on Jan 20, 2012 9:08 PM EST reply actions
DLN
Pistons down only 8 at the end of the 3rd. This should ensure that they lose by less than 30 points.
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 21, 2012 3:21 AM EST up reply actions
comon man better playing a couch than Daye
by Aris Kafadogias on Jan 20, 2012 9:37 PM EST up reply actions
Maybe Daye has just accepted the fact that he is not playing in the NBA again
and maybe he is deliberately making sure the pistons don’t cover the spread
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Jason Maxiell
I’d like to see a chart of Maxiell’s actual weight for each of the last few years…can anyone help? Not listed weight, but actual weight.
Yeah, I’ve been periodically kidnapping him, weighing him, and recording the numbers. Let me just get you that real quick.
by DesolationRow on Jan 20, 2012 9:45 PM EST up reply actions
that's not unusual though
I do that with Ramon Sessions thrice a year.
by Mike Payne on Jan 20, 2012 9:46 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
You're weighing him?
That’s not why you kidnap him, Mike. You’re not fooling anybody.
by DesolationRow on Jan 20, 2012 9:50 PM EST up reply actions
I would call that time out just to tell Brandon Knight the 4 or 5 things he could have done differently than jack a three up.
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I didn't even watch the game and I fully agree with this.
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by BandWagonerPaysTheDues on Jan 21, 2012 3:27 AM EST up reply actions
He makes up for it by always swinging his arms and pouting after a whistle is blown and play is stopped.
by garrettelliott on Jan 21, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
It’s the last time at least this month that I stay up until 5 am to watch the pistons
by Aris Kafadogias on Jan 20, 2012 9:47 PM EST reply actions
I agree. Even when we were terrible in teal, I still actually enjoyed watching the games. These are painful to sit through.
by garrettelliott on Jan 20, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
I’m beginning to see the teal years in a whole new light.
by DesolationRow on Jan 20, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
This is closer to my reaction right now.
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 20, 2012 10:01 PM EST up reply actions
You know what sucks? Even during the teal years we actually occasionally made the playoffs.
We won 54 games one year! I’m begging for the Teal years at this point!
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 20, 2012 10:07 PM EST reply actions
The teal years was the treadmill, this is straight rock bottom
The teal years was like a lost decade of being just good enough to win some games but never good enough to contend. Drafting Grant Hill made us good enough to win regularly enough to never be able to build a team. We had no new talent, no trade pieces, and no top ten draft picks on the horizon. At the time it didn’t seem like it. It seemed like we had the next Jordan, we had a Jordan-tested coach, and we had a future hall of famer. In retrospect, we were foolish to not realize how worthless our team was and how little chance we had of contending, but at the time we were too busy enjoying the excitement of riding the wave.
Currently we are the second worst team in the league and if our season ended today we would have the worst record in it’s history. We are so far from the playoffs it’s laughable and it seems that we are certain that we will have a chance to draft a franchise player, maybe the next Jordan. The way this becomes the teal years is if we fail to surround this star with a deep talented team as he enters his prime. That hopefully won’t be the case, but given the shitty personnel decisions we’ve been making it seems very likely. What would make this worse than the Teal years is having to watch us fail to put a solid team together for the same bull shit that made our team get this shitty in the first place.
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by tads on Jan 20, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Joe assumes control when Grant Hill leaves, is fired when the next grant hill leaves
its the circle of life simba.
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by dandresden on Jan 20, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Does this mean Ben Wallace retires, spends a couple years working in the front office like Joe, and then takes over just in time to negotiate the Rodney Stuckey sign and Trade?
If that’s the case the Lion King becomes my new favorite movie.
Welcome... to the Wallace-hood
Also—
I would have drafted Bismack Biyombo.
—MFBW
by -PS- on Jan 21, 2012 9:52 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
recd for truth
The real travesty here is that Jordan dominated the game for at least a few of the teal years. Now the championship is basically up for grabs especially in the last couple years and this year more than ever. Yet we’ve never been worse.
I made myself sad :(
Second re what tads said about the Teal years.
Although if Hill had remained healthy, and one or two other things went better, maybe. . . .
Worse than Austin Daye's terrible shooting
were the 4 turnovers off of possibly the worst passes I’ve ever seen in 17 minutes. Every time he passed in the second half he turned the ball over.
well that game was a piece of shit
good to see that our lotto balls are holding steady though
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I’m doing a recap, assuming I don’t pass out from all this alcohol I’m drinking. And yes, I’m drinking a lot of alcohol and I want to announce that to you because I’m drinking a lot of it. I want it to be very clear that I’m drinking a lot right now. Very heavily. Drinking. Me. Right now. Imbibing. Bebounds.
by Packey on Jan 20, 2012 10:42 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
i've said it before... with a healthy z-bo and a steadily developing conley
grizzlies are kinda looking like the ’04 pistons. stifling.
looking like the best 2003 no. 2 pick draft bust ever
seriously, if he wasn’t so damn lazy he would’ve been a good NBA player
mostly frosted tips. Divac smoked and drank during his whole career. It has to have been the frosty tips.
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2003 was a different time
its weird when you see people with frosty tips these days.
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touche
it just made me so angry to hear stories about him partying all the time; he really embraced the Human Victory Cigar role. His PER with the sluts in Oakland County was remarkable, tho ewwwooo ewwoooo
I think the problem was as much external as internal
He was dismissed and ridiculed as a bust by the time he was 19. If he were drafted between Andrea Bargnani and Adam Morrison, I think his career would have looked a lot differently.
Right now he’s the fifth best player out of the top 10 picks in that draft.
GUYS!
They’re even worse when you watch them in person.
That was a miserable game. Greg couldn’t buy a whistle though, and Knight really was fantastic for that stretch. Just time after time tonight I thought to myself, “there’s no one on the court that can come through for us.” We have far too many players on this team that are both offensively and defensively limited. It’s horrible.
Ben Gordon is horrible. He makes $12M+ to score 4-5 points a half.
The offense is horrible – not sure if this is on Frank, the players, or a combo. Instead of last years Isolayshaun, this year we have hand-off screen and rolls where the screener stays too close to the screenee and the play is easily defended.
Austin Daye’s development is not gunna happen. He got almost 20 minutes tonight due to our guard shortage and threw the ball away/pouted the whole time. Every time something went against the Pistons, Daye complained to the nearest ref. He does the lanky, Tayshaun pout, sad-sack body-language thing constantly and it’s even more maddening than when Tay himself does it.
All that said, I was really happy to be at a game. Unfortunately, there didn’t seem to be much extra poster supply to be had. The Palace was pretty damn empty though and I bet there’s a poster or three left someone. Kriz or anyone else that want their Moose posters, try writing Langolis’ mailbag or something to see if they’ll send Det’s finest fans one via the postal services.
awesome enough for my wife to start paying attention to “the swede.”
by freywagg on Jan 21, 2012 9:32 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
WE DROPPED TO SECOND WORST!!!!!
WHAT! WHAT!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
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I love that we will get a great pick
I just wish we won a few now and sucked hard at the end… Constant losing is just..sad.
by aussiepiston on Jan 21, 2012 5:19 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
our only way to the highest odds is constant losing.
We’re only half a game ahead of the Wizards…
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I'm not so sure
This condensed season seems to be evening out the playing field so to speak. There seems to be fewer truly woeful teams than usual.
Overall though, I think I’d be as happy to finish with the 3rd worst record as the absolute worst- I’m perfectly torn between desire to view even the slightest glimmer of hope with wins and the desire for a high pick
by aussiepiston on Jan 21, 2012 5:49 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
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