Pistons at Bucks: Does Greg Monroe have another career night in him?
by Sean_Corp on Jan 30, 2012 12:01 PM EST
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PrintDetroit Pistons at Milwaukee Bucks, Jan 30, 2012 8:00 PM EST
Ah, remember the Bucks? While to the average fan the Detroit Pistons' previous contest against fellow Central division also-ran Jan. 12 was just one of Detroit's 17 losses. But I remember it as Greg Monroe's coming out party (you better believe I'll celebrate the Moose-iversary next year). 32 points on 12-of-16 shooting and 16 rebounds against a respectable big man like Andrew Bogut. Performances like that from your franchise cornerstone make losing a lot easier to swallow. Can Monroe repeat the dominance? If he does, it won't be against Bogut, who is out with a fractured ankle (just like Charlie V.?). The Pistons are also without Ben Gordon, Will Bynum and maybe Austin Daye.
Game Tips at 8:00 P.M. EST
Milwaukee Bucks: 8 - 11 (5 - 2 home)
Detroit Pistons: 4 - 17 (1 - 9 road)
The Situation:
Tonight's contest will be the first in a back-to-back-to-back road trip that will take the Pistons to Milwaukee, New York and New Jersey. All three are winnable games but the Pistons won't and shouldn't be favored in any. The Bucks are a cautionary tale, or should have been any way, in that they built their team up just well enough to be mediocre and don't have the flexibility to do anything but shuffle around the margins of their roster. Basically, they are the Pistons best-case scenario, which is frightening. As horrible as being an underachieving team is, it is better for the future be in a position to draft players such as Greg Monroe and Brandon Knight than it is to draft players such as Larry Sanders and Jimmer Fredette (pick traded to Kings).
While head coach Scott Skiles is a defensive-minded taskmaster, this year the Bucks have really struggled at that end of the court. After a couple years as a top-five defensive squad, Milwaukee ranks 19th in defensive efficiency and are just starting to adjust to the absence of their best defender in Bogut, who will be out for around three months.
Keys to the Game:
Watch out for Drew Gooden - Greg Monroe has been up and down on defense all season, and if he's not careful Drew Gooden could do some damage. Gooden isn't the most intuitive NBA player, but he is blessed with some innate talents that allow him to be deathly effective when put in the right situations. Playing for the injured Bogut the past two games, Gooden put up 23 points and 15 rebounds against the Chicago Bulls and 23 points and 8 rebounds against the Los Angeles Lakers.
Watch out for Greg Monroe - On the other hand, physically, Gooden is the type of player Monroe should be effective against. He's not terribly strong or quick and doesn't block shots. If Monroe brings his A game, he could approach or even eclipse the career night he put up against Milwaukee in their first go-round. Monroe must protect the ball and avoid coughing it up when he enters the paint (watch out when Carlos Delfino and/or Brandon Jennings collapse on Monroe).
Brandon Jennings must be contained -- With Bogut out, everything in Milwaukee runs through Jennings. That means Brandon Knight can't get lost on defense and must fight through screens to keep from teammates needing to switch. When Detroit is able to stay mostly man-to-man, they've had solid stretches on D, when they are forced to switch, things break down very fast and they give up wide open jump shots or looks under the basket. As for offense, in his last seven games Knight has had roughly a 2:1 assist to turnover ratio. That level isn't great, but it's where he needs to be to show he's making progress.
Keep Jon Leuer on the bench -- One of the more pleasant surprises of the rookie class this year is University of Wisconsin alum Jon Leuer. Drafted 40th overall, the 6-foot-10 forward is shooting 56 percent from the floor, largely on jump shots, and takes care of the basketball. That is why, if I'm a Bucks fan, I'm wondering why he only plays 16 minutes per game. I'm asking why he can go 9-for-11 for 19 points in 19 minutes against Chicago and then only play five minutes the next game against the Lakers. I'm just assuming that this is coach Skiles not trusting the rookie on the defensive end. While the Bucks obviously are a better team with him on the floor, It's not my problem if Skiles doesn't realize it. tHE Pistons need to go at Leuer as soon as he enters the game and see if they can staple his butt to the bench for the remainder.
Questions of the Game:
Brandon Knight -- more turnovers or more 3-pointers made? Stephen Jackson -- He's been awful this year save for a couple of games, including one against Detroit. Does he hurt the Pistons again? Who would you rather have as a GM going forward, Joe Dumars or John Hammond?
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 30, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
well shit...
would I get a rec if it was janitorial humor?
I was going to say "actually senators and janitors have the same status now a days"
but that would be insulting to janitors
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 31, 2012 12:58 AM EST up reply actions
As long as Moose gets a Quadruple-Double tonight, I'm fine with whatever happens.
I got a feeling, Jod would be too.
by TDP on Jan 30, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Sigh. This is where the dream ends, folks.
Looking at the next month’s schedule, I see a dozen winnable games, (defined as “The Knicks or Worse”). This team almost has to win four to six of these and could even hit a hot streak, (defined as “Swept the Miserable Nets”). It pains me to say this, but I see this team sitting in the ninth lottery slot by the time March rolls around.
Prove me wrong, boys. Prove me wrong!
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 30, 2012 7:12 PM EST reply actions
I don't see this happening.
I don’t think this team is capable of “streaking” at this point. And one of the things I’ve noticed with Knight is that if he pushes the ball 3-4 times in a row, inevitably he ends up getting tired legs and makes a sloppy turnover (its like he just doesn’t know when his legs are about to give out and then all of a sudden he’s stumbling and lost control of the ball).
Either way, our veterans aren’t used to this pace of games and our rookies are even less used to it. Our only hope is that the same effect is applied to everyone else, but for some reason I feel like it will be affecting us worse than most since we have pretty much no bench to relieve our starters with (JJ, Maxiell, Walker Russell, and Daye?)
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Still, you don't think this team can pull out four or five games against
New Orleans (3), Charlotte , Nets, Washington, Toronto,Sacremento, etc.?
Yeah, the Pistons are rotten. (“Weally Wotten,” as Pontius Pilate might say.) But so are these other guys. And four or five wins in the month of February could easily moved the Pistons from the two spot to the five or six. Add a couple more and we could be looking at our lowest draft pick in three years.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 31, 2012 1:04 AM EST up reply actions
I don't see it...
- Detroit has the worst offense in the league right now averaging a measly 85 points per game.
- They have the 3rd worst point differential
- They have the most turnovers of any team in the league.
- 5th worst FG%
- They allow opponents to shoot 48% (2nd worst in the league)
To put it simply, we’re right at the very bottom of the barrel.
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and let's not forget
someday ben gordon will play again
I hope you're right.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 31, 2012 10:08 AM EST up reply actions
Just looking for the team to show
some sort of potential at this point, so that we can have some sort of bright future with this lotto pick..
Mil-wau-kee
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 31, 2012 1:05 AM EST up reply actions
Five minutes in and we're already down 8 points
It ain’t looking good.
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LOL-ER POSTER
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Tayshaun's mouth guard annoys me
But he absolutely needs it so he can average those 3 rebounds a game
Brandon Jennings
All-Star?
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Brandon Jennings
HOF?
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Rodney Stuckey
D-League?
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BUT I RIKE DA DWIBBLES
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by heWizard on Jan 30, 2012 8:27 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
We're Playing JJ Tay and Daye At Same Time?
Where’s Damien Wilkins and Kyle Singler when you need them? Then we could play 5 SFs at once!
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by tads on Jan 30, 2012 8:30 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I Have The Milwaukee Feed
Which might be ok tonight…I need a break from Blaha and Kelser spinning like KL.
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Better Veteran Asset
Tayshaun or Jackson? Both can’t shoot, but make much more money than they deserve.
Dunleavy > Prince
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Ridiculous
Prince has had his struggles just like all the Pistons. But Dunleavy is awful.
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Consider the contracts, dude. I would much rather have Dunleavy on the books than Prince, and it’s not even close.
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Contracts
Tayshaun’s contract is not going to be an impediment in any way toward the Pistons rebuilding. On the long list of Pistons problems, Prince’s play and contract are far down on the list.
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Tayshaun’s contract is not going to be an impediment in any way toward the Pistons rebuilding.
I couldn’t disagree any more. In 2015, we’ll be paying Prince $8 million. That’s starter money to a player who is not our most effective small forward (Jerebko is). You don’t rebuild a team by giving starter money to a below average, 30+ year old player when you have better talent on the roster. He’s already having the worst year of his career, across the board, and we will be financially unable to develop his position due to our commitment to Prince. This is the opposite of what a rebuilding team should do.
by Mike Payne on Jan 30, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Not to mention
Prince represents old guard. Regardless of what his attitude is today, he casts a shadow of teams past over the team and demands a “respect” that is not necessarily earned by his current level of play. Dunleavy is totally innocuous. To truly rebuild we have to let go of a championship GOD DAMN 8 YEARS OLD and hand the team to the young kids, completely.
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by heWizard on Jan 30, 2012 8:56 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
no shit
If Prince was never a Piston and was a free agent, would we have signed him to that shitty deal? Not a chizance.
I'll never let go!
But yeah, seriously, I’d say Prince is pretty high up on the list of problems for reasons already stated
In 2014
In 2014, the Pistons have a grand total of $20 million in salary commitments. I am not going to sweat the fact that the number could really be $13 million if only Old Man Prince weren’t still a Detroit Piston.
Between now and the time that Villanueva’s and Gordon’s salaries are off the books, the Pistons don’t have a chance to achieve meaningful cap flexibility, and that is true with or without the Prince deal.
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Well, right now in 2012 he’s taking 30-40 minutes away from the likes of Jerebko, Daye and, hell, even Macklin. He’s having his worst season as a Piston and, yay, we have him for 3 more seasons. In 2014, the Pistons will need that extra $7 million to install roller coasters and more dip n’ dot stands at the Palace to attract randos because by that time Prince will have driven the remaining true Pistons fans to a crisis stabilization unit.
by Packey on Jan 30, 2012 10:38 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
If Tayshaun Prince is still on the Pistons roster in 2014, Jod will have effectively flushed 27 million dollars down the toilet.
This is not the correct way to rebuild.
by Gabe F-B on Jan 30, 2012 11:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
In 2014, the Pistons have a grand total of $20 million in salary commitments. I am not going to sweat the fact that the number could really be $13 million if only Old Man Prince weren’t still a Detroit Piston.
I don’t understand for even a single second how this justifies the Prince contract. So in 2014/15, we’ll be paying a 34/35-year-old 35% of our salary payments when he’s already way-below-average in 2011-12? Is this supposed to be comforting?
Between now and the time that Villanueva’s and Gordon’s salaries are off the books, the Pistons don’t have a chance to achieve meaningful cap flexibility, and that is true with or without the Prince deal.
So because our GM has already made two colossal contract fuck-ups, what does a third matter? Take away any one of those three horrible mistakes (we already took away one of four horrible mistakes in cutting Rip, and that alone was not nearly enough), and we’re still in a horrible position for a team that’s not yet rebuilding.
Here’s an example. Philly is giving away a young, excellent rebounding big with a versatile offensive game, and they only want a second round pick in return. They won’t take on salary, so they can only ship that young big to a team that can absorb this player’s [rookie] contract. Detroit calls Philly, according to ESPN and other sources, but Philly turns Detroit down because the Pistons need to ship out salary to take on this player— because the Pistons are over the salary cap.
That player is Marreese Speights, and he’d likely be the Pistons second best big in 2011-12, a frontcourt scoring punch this team could so sorely need.
I don’t for a second understand an attempt to justify Prince’s contract by suggesting he’s a) 35% of our salary commitment in 2014, and b) that his contract doesn’t hurt since we’re already committed to Gordon and Villanueva.
As my boy Delmar O’Donnell once said, “it don’t make no sense!”
It’s not 35% of our salary payments, it’s about 11% of the salary cap (conservatively estimated at $65 million in 2014). It’s trivial. Unfortunately, until that time, the Pistons are locked into the onerous contracts of Gordon and Villanueva. They are capped out, and woudl be with or without Prince on the books. But Joe D. and Tom Gores have already said that they want to get better “the right way,” and that means building through the draft. We already know that. I speculate it also means that the team won’t be dangling any future first rounders to entice someone into taking one of the team’s bad contracts.
And we’ve already seen how the organization has committed to B. Knight and G. Monroe. They are starting, they often struggle and the team is losing. But they know it’s best in the long run. Re-signing Prince doesn’t speak very well for the two-year development of Austin Daye, but Daye has done nothing but reinforce that lack of faith just about any time he’s been on the court.
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I'm with ya MFMP
Aside from the Affallo (sp?) giveaway, this one pisses me off the most. There was no earthly reason to even consider this signing, even if he made a terrible team slightly less terrible for four years. (And there seems to be some sense that the team actually plays better without him.)
I joked about it before the signing, saying that Joe might have some sort of “Ya know, this team is on the verge of breaking out and surprising a lot of people. Tayshaun Prince would be a key to getting this team perhaps a round or two deep in the playoffs.” I think Joe really thought that. I am dumbfounded.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 31, 2012 1:08 AM EST up reply actions
If teams every want to market their players for trades
They should do it immediately after they play the Pistons.
This team sucks the biggest ass.
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Always nice
Great job, Pistons, holding a bad offensive team to 68 percent shooting in the first quarter.
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The game is only 1/4 of the way over
And yet I already feel as if we have absolutely no chance of winning this game. And Milwaukee probably won’t even make the playoffs.
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I think I’m taking the rest of the night off. That was one of the worst quarters of Pistons basketball I’ve ever seen.
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Our next three games are against teams that are better than us, yet terrible
I’m kind of glad we are losing this game, because we could have easily been them, they traded their seven pick to clean up their cap, get a veteran player, and draft someone at 19. We could have done that, and if we had, we could have been tied for the number 8 slot in the playoffs as well.
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Would you have paid money to watch this crap?
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Attendance
That’s what happens when the No.28 team plays the No. 30 team in attendance.
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This team might not score ever again
Fire Joe Dumars
by Kriz on Jan 30, 2012 8:39 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
You crack me consistently
up.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 31, 2012 1:09 AM EST up reply actions
Can we at least run and pretend like we want to put points on the board? What’s the point of slowing down to “execute” if 9 times out of 10 we end up with a bad forced shot from whoever happens to be holding the ball at the end of the shot clock?
stabs self in eyes, slow like
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Agreed
I can never understand why we always have to play at the slowest pace in the league. We have crap ass isolation players, but it seems like that’s what our offense does. If we sped the game up, we might shoot a bad percentage still, but at least we’d get a lot more offensive possessions.
Inge doesn't have a ring
Tay was a solid part of a solid Pistons team.
He’s just at the stage in his career where he should be a shooter coming off the bench of a contender, like Mike Miller. Not a staring, “veteran presence” on a rebuilding team.
You know, it's be funny if somehow we could start rumors that Dwight Howard wants to get traded here
Or Chris Paul, or whoever. I don’t think I can pretend to make some positive arguments about the team.
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"Joe D's gonna stick to his plan"
sounds like a plan
by Rusty_Shackleford on Jan 30, 2012 8:44 PM EST reply actions
…Because he has caramel on his fingers?
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by tads on Jan 30, 2012 8:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I wish they'd quit asking about
Jod’s plan for the future. Unless the question is “what 5 restaurants will you be going to for dinner tonight?” Then stop asking him dumbass questions. He doesn’t wanna sign players for a few more wins, but he gave BG and CV 85 Million.
Will we hit 30 this half?
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by tads on Jan 30, 2012 8:45 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
No.
I’ll hand you a brick instead. How about that?
And with it
We will start to rebuild
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by heWizard on Jan 30, 2012 8:47 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Should be the slogan for the season
“Pistons: rebuilding, one brick at a time”
Fire Joe Dumars
by Kriz on Jan 30, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions 11 recs
Yeah, but we’re going to have to rebuild around the shit show that is Tayshaun Prince, sitting in the middle of our basement.
I WAS HERE FIRST, YOU UNGRATEFUL FUCKS
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“Greg, go get me a Mr. Pibb and some cheese sticks.”
“What? Man, I’m not a rookie anym—”
“GREG, GO GET ME CHEESE STICKS, MR. PIBB”
“Tay, I don’t know if you noticed, but I’m leading this team, you’re just whining and talking shit”
“GAAAAAAAAHHHHHHH CHEESE STICKS AND MR. PIBB” (runs around waving arms in air, screaming at refs that are only there in his mind)
by Mike Payne on Jan 30, 2012 8:59 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
And if they're out of Mr. Pibb,
how about a nice, tall glass of Clamato?
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 31, 2012 1:10 AM EST up reply actions
I think he was fouled there
but the refs has left no respect for this team, they could care less
by Rusty_Shackleford on Jan 30, 2012 8:49 PM EST up reply actions
Screw this. I'm out.
If I keep watching this crap I’ll end up breaking something.
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Shooting 10-37 right now
how embarrassing
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That sequence was FUCKING HORRIBLE
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We should try and draft
Brittney Griner…I don’t care what anyone says, HE has a deepr voice than anyone on the pistons.
little snipper for the books from the Box Score
Turnover: Foul on Greg Monroe
6:19 Detroit Pistons DET Offensive foul on Greg Monroe
6:24 Detroit Pistons DET Austin Daye offensive rebound
6:26 Detroit Pistons DET Rodney Stuckey misses a tip in
6:27 Detroit Pistons DET Rodney Stuckey offensive rebound
6:28 Detroit Pistons DET Rodney Stuckey misses a tip in
6:29 Detroit Pistons DET Rodney Stuckey offensive rebound
by thesiberian on Jan 30, 2012 8:50 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Don't Look At Me
(looks for Biz Markie Moon)
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by V. on Jan 30, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
oh it goes bottom up
I was getting weirded out there for a moment.
by MSUDersh on Jan 30, 2012 8:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Can we just trade somebody now?
Lawrence Frank is working with elementary schoolers and retirees right now. Who could be responsible for our utter hopelessness?
What's the Pro Bowl?
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 30, 2012 8:51 PM EST reply actions
Who could be responsible for our utter hopelessness?
Isiah
by MSUDersh on Jan 30, 2012 8:55 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Rebounding
What’s the advantage of shooting 25 percent? 12 offensive rebounds to zero.
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Looking at the game tracker on my phone
And its nights like this when I’m glad I live out of market and am forced to choose between Pitt@WV or Morgan St@Hampton.
Pistons freaking suck bad this season.
by MSUDersh on Jan 30, 2012 8:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
-When- If we lose today, we'll have 18 losses
That’s the same as 2005-2006.
With 60 less wins.
What's the Pro Bowl?
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 30, 2012 8:54 PM EST reply actions
Dammit, my formatting is as futile as our finishing
What's the Pro Bowl?
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 30, 2012 8:54 PM EST up reply actions
05-06`
And people bitched then because the Pistons didn’t play the kind of basketball that could bring them a championship. I hope everyone realizes now how spoiled we were..
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So, what you're saying
is that we could end up being as good as them?
Man, I haven’t felt this pumped since watching the Awesome Promotional Vid!
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 31, 2012 1:12 AM EST up reply actions
What's with the Bucks
that gets the Moose always aggressive
by Rusty_Shackleford on Jan 30, 2012 8:55 PM EST reply actions
The "Buck, Buck"
Should have moose antler scars
damn it. When will they legalize cloning?
4 mooses and a JJ?
Is it me or
Does it look like Lawrence Frank could be Skiles younger brother?
Daye
I guess I can’t complain that Daye is 2-for-8. He’s a shooter that needs to shoot. Only way he’ll ever get better. But, damn, it is hard to watch.
I’m taking an Alcatraz break. Be back in an hour.
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Ditto!! Be right Buck
see what i did there
by Rusty_Shackleford on Jan 30, 2012 9:01 PM EST up reply actions
classic stuck.
barrels into the lane like a madman. Then remembers there’s a basket somewhere and he needs to look like he’s shooting to draw a foul.
Did something happen in Philly?
ESPN shows the Magic and Sixers game going final. Is that a glitch, or did something happen?
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/boxscore;ylt=Asozewh1zs5nK1ZwjpQwgzazYd4?gid=2012013020
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DH12 walked out of the game
and his team?
by Rusty_Shackleford on Jan 30, 2012 9:02 PM EST up reply actions
Oh Howard
I was thinking you meant some 6er.
But did he really just peace out on everybody?
by MSUDersh on Jan 30, 2012 9:07 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Maybe he had diarrhea. Bison Dele did that once.
by garrettelliott on Jan 30, 2012 9:08 PM EST up reply actions
No, ESPN's
website showed the game going final with a score of 42-56
my question watching Monroe, Knight and Jerebko
are they playing to help the team or playing to get the fuck out of detroit.
wow back to a 10 pt game
Cmon, Stones!
by MSUDersh on Jan 30, 2012 9:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Seriously
How much inbreeding has gone on in Sam Bernstein’s household?
by JP423 on Jan 30, 2012 9:05 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
You just have to hit him
I know what we can have Tayshaun do on offense…!!!
What's the Pro Bowl?
by halfbackattack33 on Jan 30, 2012 9:07 PM EST up reply actions
How in the world are we only down by 6 after that mess?
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by brgulker on Jan 30, 2012 9:07 PM EST via Android app reply actions
and they're currently the 8th seed
show’s how little the Pistons need to improve to get into the playoffs. they have to be Bucks bad. which is less bad then they are right now.
but seriously, I hope they avoid perennial 8th seed status. Best to spend a few years at the bottom, stocking up on young talent. Then skip over the middle of the conference on your way to the top.
You really think the Pistons have a shot at the playoffs?
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 30, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 30, 2012 9:17 PM EST up reply actions
Pistons are 5 games behind the 8th seed.
and they’ve won 4 games
given that this team only has four wins… if we could double our win total we could make the playoffs!!
I hear what you are saying though. the bottom of the EC isn’t all that far out of reach.
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by brgulker on Jan 30, 2012 9:48 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Fire John Hammond
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 30, 2012 9:12 PM EST up reply actions
Mateen Cleaves
seems like a nice enough guy…but why the f is he the color commentator on this team that includes the dude you most likely would’ve like to have called a nerd and made his life miserable in high school? and this is coming from a guy that was an incredible nerd in high school
Looks like I'm going to the next two Pistons games
A friend on mine won tickets to see them on wednesday, Another friend of mine (who I owe a favor) wants to go to the cheapest game at madison square garden on stubhub.
Welcome... to the Wallace-hood
Brandon Knight with an Amir-esque stat line
20 0-3 0-0 0-0 0 1 2 1 0 4 3 -11 0
Welcome... to the Wallace-hood
that's the opposite of Amir-esque
he did 4 turnovers and 3 fouls with zero points on 4 attempts in 24 minutes of play. Horse. Shit. Bullshit. Shit. Shitty.
We would be the team to make Brandon Jennings look good
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At least we can say we're hitting the offensive glass!
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 30, 2012 9:46 PM EST reply actions
Ho-hum...
… just another usual beatdown being handed to the Pistons by an opposing team.
Time for some perspective
If any other team had 1/3 of their payroll unable to play because of injury, you’d expect them to play terribly too. Right?
Our team actually plays worse our higher paid players.
We had a great two game stretch where none of them played. Then Prince comes back and we’re back to sucking horribly.
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 30, 2012 9:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yea, but lack of depth makes teams worse over multiple games
And I kind of miss Bynum ;)
if 1/3rd of your payroll were unable to play because they sucked...
you’d expect them to play terribly too, right?
true.
I’m not saying BG+CV is worth $20 million a year to team.
But they are better, usually, than D. Wilkins and Walker Russell Jr.
by thesiberian on Jan 30, 2012 10:00 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, injuries are hurting the team's competitiveness
I would rather those two were healthy and playing.
WTF,
This was 6 at the half, now down 23 early in the fourth? Come on, Pistons. Have some pride or something.
by MSUDersh on Jan 30, 2012 9:57 PM EST via mobile reply actions
can't watch this team anymore.
turned this game off. not watching any more ’stones games this season unless they crack .500.
i’m all in on LF’s defense-first coaching and emphasis on rebounding. its working. on one end of the court.
but to the complete and utter exclusion of having ANY kind of offensive discipline? this is just pathetic.
WTF, indeed.
Can't expect Larry Frank to polish a turd.
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 30, 2012 10:02 PM EST up reply actions
I'm not sure the defense is really "working" given the consistently high FG% of our opponents
Maybe it’s as good as it could be with this roster, but still, the numbers aren’t pretty.
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nice little post move from Macklin
that and the little shiver to Dunleavy should earn him 30 minutes per game
Macklin seems pretty ok in the post.
granted the bucks probably weren’t giving a shit when he got out on the floor, but he looks pretty ok.
Oh well.
At least the Pistons cracked the 80-point mark again. Baby steps. sigh
I've been rooting for the Pistons for decades
And I don’t remember this many double-digit and indeed 20+ point losses.
Teams that would probably land Chris Caveman
Not Impossible, But Not Likely, Either
Detroit: Seems like a natural for Kaman, who’s from Grand Rapids, but the Pistons are also rebuilding and don’t want to give up any of their young assets like forwards Jonas Jerebko or Austin Daye, or rookie Brandon Knight, in a package for Kaman. Detroit is committed to going slowly, through the Draft, and certainly wouldn’t part with a pick that’s going to be high in the Lottery.
by Rusty_Shackleford on Jan 30, 2012 10:41 PM EST reply actions
Just got home from cavorting and seen the box score
by the beard of Ben Wallace, this is a sorry lot
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by Skylar on Jan 30, 2012 10:44 PM EST reply actions 3 recs
Draft status
In the NBA you either want to be really good or really bad. I think we’ve seen what path the Pistons have charted. Fans that were upset we were drafting in the 7 or 8 range should be very happy with their draft posiiton this year.
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I'd rather be mediocre than really bad
If we were mediocre we’d be a little bit more fun to watch. And unlike other sports, having the worst record in the league doesn’t guarantee you the #1 pick. Look at when the Bulls got Rose with the #1 pick, I believe they had the 8th worst record. We just need to do a better job of evaluating talent and pick the right players for our system.
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The Bulls got the D-Rose pick
Because the NBA draft lottery is fixed. I’m certain of that. Shenanigans with the lottery nearly every season.
That means that New Orleans will win the lottery with the draft pick they acquired from the T'Wolves
This will happen for 2 reasons:
1) Because Kahn always gets screwed by the lottery fix
2) Because the NBA owns the Hornets, and they want to be sure to get a 1st and 3rd overall draft pick.
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by The Boourns on Jan 31, 2012 12:46 PM EST up reply actions
That makes a lot of sense to me
I still believe that the Bulls got the Rose pick (and then inexplicably took him over Michael Beasley, when they already had a glut of PGs but a dearth of scoring/rebounding from the 4) bc they had an agreement with the NBA to take the hometown star with that pick.
Stern & the league are smart enough to know that Chicago is a market the NBA has to own, and made sure that it got the local kid, who grew up in the shadow of the UC. It just worked out for them that he ended up being such a stud.
It’s similar to the Cavs getting the LeBron pick. Or them getting 1 & 3 last season. Or the Wizards getting #1 the season before. Or even the Pistons getting the Darko pick seemed a bit shady. And I agree that Kahn always gets the shaft, because Minnesota is a crap market the league doesn’t need, and Stern, et al, hate Kahn bc he is quick to call out the league.
As long as the league keeps making the lottery selections in a manner not visible to everybody, this will be an issue.
Yeah...personally, I think the lottery should be decided in a Hunger Games-like fight to the death
But maybe not quite to the death…Last man standing gets 1st overall pick.
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yeah I was thinking royal rumble too...that'd be a sweet sport cross-over
WWE could do the NBA Draft Lottery Royal Rumble. Of course then we’d be back to square one since the Draft Lottery is about as random as the Royal Rumble is…
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I'd prefer to be really good
if we had a competent GM since 2005, we might still be really good— or at least playoff-worthy.
Like I wrote above,
by March 1, I think this team will be sitting in the 5-7 spot. And that’s not helpful.
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by MrHappyMushroom on Jan 31, 2012 1:19 AM EST up reply actions
We never stopped sucking.
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by Trout Jefferson on Jan 31, 2012 12:13 AM EST up reply actions
That was well...fun.
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WE'RE #2! WE'RE #2!
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just saw stats
deference was shooting percentage.
it’s big problem.
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by OK from J on Jan 31, 2012 4:17 AM EST reply actions 11 recs
Rec'd for "deference"
and for awesomeness
My federal building is way cooler than your federal building.
Milwaukee managed to destroy us sans its best player.
The. Milwaukee. Bucks.
This is turrible.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
I keep wanting to say, "Teams aren't always going to shoot 51% from the field and 58% from beyond the arch"
and then I remember that 51% is only 3% off our season average and we’re still giving up 38% shooting from beyond the arch…
Also, we’re 2nd worst in blocks ahead of only Sacramento…
Blocks and Dunks need to be straight up brought to us.
Lastly, I can only conclude that in this insane 5 game stretch, Macklin should be seeing consistent minutes in the 10-20 minute a game range. Give all of Ben’s minutes for at least 2 of these games to him. I realize he’s only gotten to play against scrubs, but I like the chemistry he and Russell Jr. seem to have and he seems to be in better control of his body than I would have expected. Would it be too much to ask that our team at least try and evaluate whether or not he’s the next DeAndre Jordan rather than him riding the pine all season only to be traded to Denver for a 2nd rate bag of potato chips?
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by The Boourns on Jan 31, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions
funny enough, I’ve been planning a story on this point exactly— on getting Macklin burn and doing it now.
I expect full credit for the story idea.
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The Bucks might be missing Bogus
Milwaukee managed to destroy us sans its best player.
The. Milwaukee. Bucks.
..but they still have John Hammond, and that is one motherfucker I sure hated to lose.
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