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Off Topic Thread, Week of 1/30/12: Tech Geek Edition

What's good, DBB?

As many of you may already know, we've got a handful of tech geeks in the community. We all love to give Microsoft-loving Boourns a hard time for his love affair with Bing, MFMP, myself, and a few others of us are Google and Android aficionados (I <3 my Verizon Galaxy Nexus more than life itself), and unfortunately, we even have some iPhone users among us, including our fearless leader -- the one who originally sold me on the OG Droid. Sellout!!!

I kid, I kid.

Not really, sellout!

So, during the last week of the first month of the year of our JoD 2012, let's talk tech (and of course, anything and everything else).

Star-divide

I'll break the ice.

What are your favorite sources for tech news?

I enjoy a handful of blogs: Engadget, Lifehacker, and Ars Technica are the three I frequent most.... frequently.

When it comes to Android, I find Android Police to be the most informative, with honorable mentions to Droid Life and Android Central.

Did you hear that the next Xbox might reject used games? Boourns, we're counting on you to save us from this evil.

The SBNation mobile app is pretty nifty. I recommend it for you almost as much as a coachDP comment, no sugarcoat.

What else is going on?

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great idea gulks

This Xbox thing is disturbing, but more so perplexing. How would video game rentals be impacted by this? I have to imagine game shark, family video, block buster, etc account for a pretty large portion of video game sales. Would this all but end game shark? And that crappy used video game store around the corner? On top of this I’m not exactly sure how much better they can truly make video game consoles. Any improvement in graphics at this point has to be marginal, as in I’m not sure it outweighs the cost.

As for the SN App. It’s got some work to do. Can’t access fanshots, only fanposts. Also once you comment or reply it sticks you on that reply and you end up replying to the same post over and over again. You have to close it and open it again in order to reply to a different post. Adding the ability to rec would also be cool. Oh and you can’t access links through the app. Issues.

Gulks, picked up the Galaxy Nexus myself after we had that convo about it that one time in that one post that one day awhile ago. I was hesitant but I gotta say I’m pretty damn happy with it. I thought it was going to be too big, but after using it for awhile it grew on me, and now there is no way in hell I can go back. I’m stuck. I’m spoiled by this giant fucking screen. I can’t even see those puny ass iphone screens.

My only complaint is the camera. I wish it just had the option to turn off that always on auto-focus so you could take pictures where it focuses right before the pic instead of constantly re-focusing. I’ll take a little lag for a better quality photo. The no lag thing is cool and all, but the option should be there. Other than that great phone. I haven’t even had the desire to fuck with it yet.

by mcflies on Jan 31, 2012 10:22 AM EST reply actions  

I’m counting on lobbyists from used game retailers to talk Microsoft off this ledge. I think that the better digital distribution becomes, the more inclined many will be to purchase games digitally (thus eliminating resale possibilities). But I think the market should make that choice, not Microsoft by disallowing used games sales.

I would have agreed with you on graphics until I saw BF3 running on a high end PC. Destructive environments and lots of characters simply can’t happen on this generation’s hardware. For me, as a competitive FPS fan, games can’t take the next step forward that they need to take without better hardware. CoD, for example, is just plain stale, but I don’t think it can move beyond where it is without new tech.

I dig the Nexus. I agree on the camera. I love that it’s fast, but the quality is so so. It’s plenty good for what I need. I rooted a couple weeks in and installed my first custom ROM over the weekend. It’s little tweaks that make all the difference. I can’t wait for Cyanogenmod 9. I plan on putting that on my phone and my Galaxy Tab 10.1.

"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."

@brgulker

by brgulker on Jan 31, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

roms/root

i used to use custom roms because i required:

setcpu – to speed up my phone
memory optimizer – same as above
screenshot – used that a lot
wireless tether – obvious
call block – block calls at the system level instead of the app level. no ring. no nothing.
apps2sd – save apps to SD card
and just to try out something new – there are a lot of cool roms out there

G Nexus and ICS allow me to take screenshots. I don’t need to save apps to the SD card because there isn’t one. All the memory is in one spot. And I don’t need to speed up my phone or optimize my memory because it’s already fast, and already optimized.

So I’m basically missing out on wireless tether and call blocking, neither of which I’ve needed. I used to throw a new rom on my old android phones practically every other month, but i’m perfectly content with the stock OS at the moment. when Cyanogenmod 9 comes out i’ll most likely cave and give it a look see though.

by mcflies on Jan 31, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions  

On Xbox rumors - Most importantly I can't as an MS employee comment on rumors and in no way am implying any validity to the rumor by posting my personal opinion of the concept of a technology that prevents used game sales

In my own personal opinion though, I’m a little surprised at how up in arms people seem to be over this. Sure, I realize that I’m probably in the minority when I say that I never buy used games. I do so because in order for Publishers to continue making games in the future, they need to get paid for the games they’re making today. When you buy a used game from GameStop, the publisher sees $0.00 of the revenue generated from that sale.

GameStop is easily the biggest seller of used games, and they pretty much just undercut the full priced offer by about $5. Meanwhile, as a gamer, you sell your game back to GameStop and are lucky to get $5-$10 per game. So gamers pay an extra $5, and the money actually goes to the creative people who built the game and not entirely into GameStop’s pocket as is the case with used game sales. Meanwhile they lose $5-$10 a game for not being able to re-sell the game. So we’re talking about a maximum increased cost of $20 for any game that you plan on selling back to a place like GameStop.

Not having as much experience in PC, but isn’t this how physical PC products work today? You get a one-time use serial code that effectively unlocks your software once installed?

As a lover of games, I’m tired of GameStop siphoning margin out of the industry and doing nothing to move the industry forward. In my opinion, the money should be going to the people who are actually invested in the evolution of gaming, and not just a middle man.

And as far as power in the future of the gaming industry, it still lies with the publishers first and foremost, and the retailers secondly. GameStop wouldn’t exist today without used game sales and if they somehow disappeared, those core gamers would find some place else to make their purchases whether its a big box retailer or spending more money on digital purchases via Steam, LIVE, or PSN.

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by The Boourns on Jan 31, 2012 11:34 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

just curious

what would be the effect on rentals?

just ballpark i mean let’s say one blockbuster store carries 15 copies of CoD when it comes out. there are 1700 blockbusters just in the US, which means blockbuster will have purchased over 25,000 copies of CoD. not to mention other video game rental stores / services. that seems like quite a bit of revenue game developers would be sacrificing in this.

are we looking at a future with streaming video games? or you get a 10 day license to play it via digital download for a fraction of the cost of owning it? how does this work?

by mcflies on Jan 31, 2012 12:00 PM EST up reply actions  

At the end of the day, 25,000 copies sold to a rental store is a drop in the bucket for a game like CoD

Honestly, the rental market is kind of a grey area in the gaming industry. There isn’t really any way for anyone in the industry to aggregate how many users only rent games vs. rent + buy, etc. This would require the various companies that offer rental models to divulge their companies data which in general, the gaming industry is averse to sharing.

This is the future of gaming:

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

Love Beer? Me too! http://jimbobsbeerblog.wordpress.com/
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by The Boourns on Jan 31, 2012 12:17 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

TL;DR

just rec’d the virtual boy.

by freywagg on Feb 1, 2012 10:47 AM EST up reply actions  

As a lover of games, I’m tired of GameStop siphoning margin out of the industry and doing nothing to move the industry forward. In my opinion, the money should be going to the people who are actually invested in the evolution of gaming, and not just a middle man.

I agree with this 100%. But this is basically letting the market decide, which I’m in favor of.

What I oppose is MS attempting to take my freedom away from me as a consumer.

Additionally, my impression is that MS simply wants to siphon off the money by charging fees associated with the Xbox Live Arcade/Marketplace, which doesn’t necessarily solve the siphoning problem but rather creates a new one. (correct me if I’m wrong there)

I buy the majority of games that I purchase new as well. But not everyone is financially able to do this. My mentee, for example, was still playing on an original Xbox until last year, and was only able to buy games for $15 or less — which means he was playing very old games which weren’t even available new anymore.

What right does MS have to take that market away by force?

"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."

@brgulker

by brgulker on Jan 31, 2012 12:42 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

this be right

although, i don’t think they can go to a strictly digital download format unless the internet infratstructure/access was improved immensely. and you have to pay for Xbox live on top of that. and then MS gets to siphon money off the top from their marketplace. and you’re talking about destroying an entire retail industry here. it’s bound to happen someday, but why rush it? let the market decide when the video game/dvd/blu-ray retail industry bites the dust. just because it’s inevitable doesn’t mean you have to make it happen.

by mcflies on Jan 31, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions  

To be clear, we're speaking entirely in hypotheticals right now...

but I agree with you in that allowing the market to decide would be preferred. I’m hesitant to really comment any further than that. I have no clue what a next generation will look like for any of the console manufacturers (including Nintendo since in my opinion, the Wii U isn’t even a next-gen console), but in general I am a proponent of any technology that prevents GameStop from making ridiculous margins on content that someone else created while at the same time not inhibiting a gamer from enjoying his games in the way he prefers to do so.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

Love Beer? Me too! http://jimbobsbeerblog.wordpress.com/
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by The Boourns on Jan 31, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

+1

What problem is this supposed to solve? It’s not like we currently suffer from a lack of video games. I totally get that Microsoft would prefer to earn the profit that is currently going to middle men like GameStop (and to individual sellers on ebay, craigslist, etc.).

However, as Gulks points out, there are individuals out there who will be unwilling or unable to buy exclusively new games. Therefore, Microsoft will not recoup 100% of the revenue currently being earned by third party sellers. They will recover some smaller percentage of revenue and the rest will become deadweight loss. This anticompetitive measure being contemplated by Microsoft would result in current buyers and sellers being unable to make trades that they formerly would have made. That equals market failure, imo.

by Colin M on Jan 31, 2012 4:15 PM EST up reply actions  

What problem does this solve?

Take any given publisher in the industry today – big or small. Now tell them that they could sell 20-30% more units of their game if there was no used game market dominated by the likes of GameStop. That publisher sells 20% more of that game which generates more profit for them to spend on the next game.

The Used Game market is absolutely holding back the evolution and investment of publishers in the gaming industry today. The difference between the money going into GameStop’s pockets and the money ultimately getting back to the Publisher is GameStop doesn’t reinvest ANY of that money back into the evolution of gaming. Instead they give the profits to their shareholders. I’m not knocking their business model, but its still hurting the game industry when compared to the alternative of having the money go to the publisher and allowing that publisher to continue developing new games and IP. If you’re a passionate gamer, and you don’t see that as a problem, then I’d ask you to turn in your gamertag and forfeit all gamerscore.

Lastly, if I had to choose GameStop or MS/PSN/Nintendo retaining the incremental revenue associated with used games, I’d still choose the latter. At least a platform is investing billions of dollars into continuing the industry.

For those of you claiming that some people can ONLY afford used games, I call bullshit. The price difference between GameStop’s used game market and the brand new game is typically less than $5, or an 8% difference. Every single game out there goes through a natural retail lifecycle that results in average sale price decay over time. Ultimately retailers need to move units and eventually publishers need to sell through inventory as well, so the price comes down. If you’re an individual who is incapable of spending $60 for a game, then you simply wait 6 months and buy a new copy of the game for $40-$50. Or you wait a year and by the Game of the Year edition that includes even more content and is often still priced under $60.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

Love Beer? Me too! http://jimbobsbeerblog.wordpress.com/
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by The Boourns on Jan 31, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions  

Okay how about a new topic where I'm not constantly worried about putting myself at risk for saying something I shouldn't :-)

How about this?

http://www.benzinga.com/news/12/01/2283797/playstation-4-to-be-cancelled

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

Love Beer? Me too! http://jimbobsbeerblog.wordpress.com/
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by The Boourns on Jan 31, 2012 4:55 PM EST up reply actions  

I work for a Bank here in Aus

And my friend/colleague was fired for social media commentary on our workplace.

Then again, hard to employ someone who says “the (bank name) is fucked and the service is bullshit and I am staff so I should know”…

I think you are safe

by aussiepiston on Jan 31, 2012 6:03 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I don't think that is correct

Sony already announced that the PS4 will be announced after the next xbox, Probably on the same kind of scale similar to the 360 then the Ps3, so a y ear later? honestly that article seems like more speculation then anything.

by Taiwanese Tora on Feb 1, 2012 1:16 AM EST up reply actions  

a lot of it was based on the amount of spending that Sony is committing to the organization

the devil’s in the details though…they went through some re-orgs and they could just as easily be re-allocating to their online service and hoping to just incorporate PSN as part of every TV, Vaio, etc.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

Love Beer? Me too! http://jimbobsbeerblog.wordpress.com/
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by The Boourns on Feb 1, 2012 1:20 AM EST up reply actions  

I know they have demos and such

but wouldn’t a system where a game can’t be rented hurt games that don’t already have a name for themselves? I know I’m not going to buy every game that I want to play, especially ones that don’t have a continuous play environment. it seems like this could hurt developers in the same way. or weed a lot if games out.

by mcflies on Jan 31, 2012 5:32 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

oh okay...

When you posed the question “What problem is this supposed to solve”, I read it as, “I don’t see a problem with the used game market”.

To your bottom line, initial attach rates for games could suffer but once you have a meaningful library of titles (generally by the 2nd holiday of a console lifecycle), you also have a meaningful portfolio of lower-priced games. Its not like game stay at $60 permanently…they lose their value pretty quickly with many games dropping by more than 10-15% in price in the first 3 months of its availability. I don’t know that users would attach at a lower rate, I think they’d just delay their purchase until later in the life cycle.

When I posit above about the number of people who would likely transition to full price games, I don’t think it is at all unreasonable to expect the vast majority of used game buyers to transition. If you invest $300-$500 in a piece of hardware, you’re going to buy games for it regardless of whether they’re new or used. You could make the argument that by incorporating this kind of technology, you risk deterring people from buying your console all together, but I don’t buy that either. Used game buyers heavily overlap with core console owners because only core console owners really shop at places like GameStop and other used game retailers. They’re going to upgrade to the next generation console at some point so long as they have a job to fund their habit.

If gamers average, 6 games a year, and they are forced to buy new, their total investment goes from $330 in a given year to $360 (using $55 for a used game and $60 for a new game). That means that they’re losing out on 1/2 of a game that they could have played in a given year. Taking these same investment #s, the publisher sees $0 of the $330, while they see their royalty cut of the $360 (say somewhere around 15-20%) or $66 of revenue for the publisher that they’re not currently realizing. Even if the majority of the money from that incremental $66 per used game buyer that transitions goes to fat cats and wealthy industrialists, that is still additional revenue that is going to go towards the next project.

My main point in all this, is that I’d still rather have the money in the hands of the creators, because they’re the only ones who can continue creating content on our behalf. Cutting GameStop out of the used game market is and always will be beneficial to both the publishers and the platforms regardless of whether they lose some small percentage of users who choose to give up gaming all together because they have to spend an extra $5 to buy their videogame.

And to be abundantly clear, I’m not anti-used games, I’m anti-GameStop selling used games. In a perfect world, a technology is created that prevents GameStop from buying back physical copies of games, but encourages gamers to “sell” their game to friends. They’d sell the game to their friend, for $55. The gamer who purchased the game first would receive % credit to their account (not cash), the rest would be split between publisher and platform. This way, gamers can still receive some credit back for buying the game, and publishers/platforms retain the net benefit of the sale of the game and any subsequent sales afterwards.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

Love Beer? Me too! http://jimbobsbeerblog.wordpress.com/
Follow me on twitter: #JimBobsBeerBlog

by The Boourns on Jan 31, 2012 6:23 PM EST up reply actions  

gamestop

also sells new games, and some of these new games are purchased because people sell or trade-in old games. there’s pros and cons to it. part of what makes spending $60 on a game tolerable to some consumers is that eventually they can recoup some of that and reinvest it in another game. and so on.

by mcflies on Jan 31, 2012 7:30 PM EST via Android app up reply actions   1 recs

Even if the majority of the money from that incremental $66 per used game buyer that transitions goes to fat cats and wealthy industrialists…

I thank you for it.

by -PS- on Jan 31, 2012 8:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

oops, didn’t see this post. I said the same thing in more words further down the thread.

by Gabe F-B on Feb 1, 2012 7:23 AM EST up reply actions  

Word.

You make a lot of valid points. I think we’re starting to get to the point where were relying too heavily on hypotheticals.

That being said, I can’t help myself:

Its not like game stay at $60 permanently…they lose their value pretty quickly with many games dropping by more than 10-15% in price in the first 3 months of its availability.

Obviously, they aren’t dropping fast enough, or there wouldn’t be a resale market. Additionally, the resale market puts competitive pressure on publishers to cut prices so I’m not sure that prices would decrease as rapidly as they currently do.

If you invest $300-$500 in a piece of hardware, you’re going to buy games for it regardless of whether they’re new or used.

I don’t buy completely into neoclassical consumer theory, but ideally people should be making decisions on the margin, so increased prices should absolutely decrease demand.

If gamers average, 6 games a year, and they are forced to buy new, their total investment goes from $330 in a given year to $360 (using $55 for a used game and $60 for a new game).

You are obviously a much more experienced gamer, but I feel like you’re minimizing the price difference between new and used games. Look, I know GameStop is a bunch of soulless whores, but they’re not the only people in the game. People do sell directly online via amazon and ebay. GameStop may be a nasty disease, but if the cure involves cutting out all resale, then I don’t want it.

I would like to say, Boourns, that I have immensely enjoyed having this silly debate with you. Tip o’ the hat to you and go, shitty team, go!

by Colin M on Jan 31, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions   2 recs

Word up to you and mcflies. I didn’t even consider this aspect.

by Colin M on Feb 1, 2012 9:27 AM EST up reply actions  

Also, I just bought a used car.

"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."

@brgulker

by brgulker on Feb 1, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I totally and completely support your argument that purchasing new games keeps developers/publishers in business. I hear you, and I do that where ever and whenever I can.

What I am opposed to is a money-hungry corporation taking away my rights – but more importantly, the rights of those who might not have the financial resources I have – to purchase something used rather than new.

"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."

@brgulker

by brgulker on Feb 1, 2012 10:09 AM EST up reply actions  

and my only point is that the only reason a used game market exists today, is because of an entity that does nothing to move the gaming industry forward

and you can’t tell me that GameStop being a game retailer helps move the industry forward…if gamers didn’t have GameStop, they’d just buy their games somewhere else.

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by The Boourns on Feb 1, 2012 1:41 PM EST up reply actions  

No worries if so.

"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."

@brgulker

by brgulker on Feb 1, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

no you're not crazy...

sometimes I’ll click on rec, but it will show up as flagged, but then when I refresh, it counts as a rec.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

Love Beer? Me too! http://jimbobsbeerblog.wordpress.com/
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by The Boourns on Feb 2, 2012 2:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Ok. I think that be what happened here. Thanks.

by Colin M on Feb 2, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm going to go out on a limb

and guess that game RENTAL companies are also on the list of industries publishers would prefer to wither and die. Because they absolutely would if this happens.

As a consumer of other media (I presume) such as movies and books, would you feel those industries would also be justified in preventing rental industries such as Netflix/Blockbuster, or, uh, libraries?

Is this really what we’ve come to? A war on libraries?

by Big Z in Orlando on Feb 1, 2012 2:01 PM EST up reply actions  

I still don't see how this would kill the rental industry...

I’ve read the article on arstechnica and everything they’re going off of is purely hypothetical and based on rumors. I don’t think publishers view the rental industry in the same light as the used game market and I’d actually be willing to bet that publishers appreciate the in-direct benefits of the rental industry more than any perceived in-direct benefits from the used game market.

I guess I just feel like a lot of the doom & gloom from all this is based on an “industry expert” with pcmag.com referencing kotaku, whose referencing joystiq, whose referencing arstechnica, and on and on. It’s certainly an interesting hypothetical conversation but I don’t see it bearing any significant thought until Microsoft themselves comes out and says it to be true.

All that said, I think the gaming industry will have some growing pains in the next 10 years as they try to figure out how to transition to fully digital. Digital technologies that provide flexibility to users likely won’t be where they need to be for users to feel like they’re still getting the same value out of their games as they did before and the biggest question is whether or not ISPs can support the ridiculous spike in bandwidth that would be allocated towards gamers downloading 6-10 gbs per game.

In the end though, I imagine we’ll hit digital perfection from a user perspective in the next 10 years (I have my own vision for what that is from both a consumer and an employee…)

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

Love Beer? Me too! http://jimbobsbeerblog.wordpress.com/
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by The Boourns on Feb 1, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions  

I'd love to go fully digital

My problem is I can’t get a broadband network provider who will provide me with an unlimited data plan. Since the providers have all unofficially declared war on Netflix and to prevent people from cutting the traditional cable service, I don’t know how it would work if I had to juggle regular data traffic, movie/tv viewing, and gigabytes of games download for both my console and PC. I know I couldn’t fit it under my current 250GB monthly cap.

I would honestly miss the game discs. I still like having them around. But, I recognize it’s just a matter of time before they disappear.

by Big Z in Orlando on Feb 2, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

SB Nation has a pretty bad ass tech blog

The Verge as well as Life Hacker and Engadget are in my Google Reader.

Oh, I also have an iPhone and I wouldn’t have it any other way.

by Packey on Jan 31, 2012 11:51 AM EST reply actions  

Hard to ever leave

When iTunes can sync all your music/apps just how you like it when you upgrade.

by aussiepiston on Jan 31, 2012 6:05 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

for real, though

MFMP does amazing work over there — I love all the architecture posts, and I think I’m in love with the 2013 Ford Fusion.

oh, and that guy who taught me how to wear khakis. First we get the jobs, then we get the khakis, then we get the girls.

by Packey on Feb 1, 2012 2:51 AM EST up reply actions  

and I think I’m in love with the 2013 Ford Fusion

Good to hear as I happen to be directly involved in the launch of a feature that can be found on Hybrids that Ford has jointly developed with my place of employment to be integrated into gas powered vehicles (explanation here). The 2013 Ford Fusion will be the first model to have this feature.

Needless to say, the 2013 Ford Fusion is everywhere I look around here.

/shameless plug’d

by mcflies on Feb 1, 2012 8:57 AM EST up reply actions  

Someday, I hope to be able to afford a vehicle like this.

"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."

@brgulker

by brgulker on Feb 1, 2012 10:13 AM EST up reply actions  

Mr. Packey, I thank thee for the love. I have some big projects in the works that I hope will make TheCoolist a whole lot more, uh, cooler. For the first time since launch (and a thousand articles later), I have hired my first writer that isn’t me and I’m pumped about it. In the mean time, MOAR ARCHITECTURES AND FUSIONS AND KHAKIS for Packeys.

by Mike Payne on Feb 1, 2012 10:48 AM EST up reply actions  

So you’re saying it will be the coolest TheCoolist?

/mindblown

"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."

@brgulker

by brgulker on Feb 1, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

Idk if I qualify as a tech geek in the sense we're talking about here...

I do dual boot OS’s on my laptop between Windows 7 and Ubuntu Linux. I mostly just like to mess around with Linux. It’s taught me a lot about computers.

Tech wise I have an HTC Inspire for a phone (which I love). I use an iPod Touch for an mp3 player. Between the two worlds of Apple and Android, they both are pretty awesome and I see the appeal of both. I think because of my love of linux I kinda have a natural of the Android concept because I like being able to fuck around with things. Linux and Android let me do exactly that. Apple and Windows don’t let me so much.

Other than that stuff I’m not much of a tech geek. Unless we’re gonna start talking music stuff I’m a bit behind the times.

by madpoopz on Jan 31, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

I was a huge Linux geek for a while. I haven’t installed Ubuntu out of laziness on the computer I bought a couple months back to replace my dead laptop.

"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."

@brgulker

by brgulker on Feb 1, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions  

i don't dig the sidebar

i liked the older ubuntu style (karmic koala or something?) with the top bar. that’s the shell i like. don’t like the launcher/dashboard style. but it is customizable. even saw a shell you can install that looks like ice cream sandwich.

the drivers are a bitch, but they are A LOT better than when i started messing around with linux. knight and daye.

by mcflies on Feb 1, 2012 10:44 AM EST up reply actions  

they are better...

and I’ve discovered that Intel is definitely more Linux friendly when it comes to drivers.

by madpoopz on Feb 1, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Agreed, re: the sidebar.

That thing blows. Much preferred the top bar.

by Colin M on Feb 1, 2012 11:06 AM EST up reply actions  

idk if you've used the latest release...

but they’ve improved it a ton IMO. The navigation is much better.

by madpoopz on Feb 1, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions  

It’s pretty simple to install and run Gnome 3. Just a couple packages to install, from what I’ve read.

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@brgulker

by brgulker on Feb 1, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions  

I have PS3

until xbox gives better exclusives I will stick with Sony… (and I buy all my systems in Japan and you can’t buy xbox in japan anymore)

by Taiwanese Tora on Feb 1, 2012 1:21 AM EST reply actions  

Console History

So here’s a thought. I’ve been gaming basically since birth. My dad got into the video game boom of the 80’s, and I got to tag along. Here’s my console history. It’d be fun to compare notes. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_game_consoles)

Coleco Vision
Atari 7800
NES
Gameboy
SNES
Sega Genesis
Atari Lynx
Playstation
Nintendo64
Sega Dreamcast (I have a soft spot for this console. So much potential that didn’t ever catch on, apart from the 2k sports series)
Playstation2
Xbox
Nintendo Wii
Nintendo DS
Xbox360

I’d add the Android OS to this list as well, as I do a fair bit of casual gaming here almost daily.

"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."

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by brgulker on Feb 1, 2012 10:20 AM EST reply actions  

i've owned

only the NES, Gameboy, Genesis, PSone, PS2, Nintendo DS, Wii, and Xbox360.

However growing up my dad owned a video rental store, which he then sold to my grandparents, and they would rent out consoles and games. So I had access to any of them growing up and was free to walk in and grab them whenever they weren’t rented out. Obviously I’ve played my fair share of video games. But you can see why I’m partial to the rental debate above concerning Microsoft’s plan.

by mcflies on Feb 1, 2012 10:53 AM EST up reply actions  

For me it'd be

Atari
Gameboy
Tamagachi (sp?)
SEGA Genesis
Nintendo 64
Xbox 360
Wii
PS3
Kinect

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by The Boourns on Feb 1, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions  

No IntelliVision?

My list:
IntelliVision
Sega Genesis
Nintendo 64
PS2
PS3

by Birdman84 on Feb 1, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

IntelliVision FTW, that thing was awesome. I vividly remember sliding those plastic game guides over the controller buttons, getting eaten by alligators in Pitfall, blowing up my brother’s tank in Armor Battle, killing minotaurs in Advanced Dungeons and Dragons and saving the world from falling asteroids in, well, Asteroid. Also, there’s no time like Burger Time.

by Mike Payne on Feb 1, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I loved the baseball game for the IntelliVision.

by Birdman84 on Feb 1, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions  

Me

Atari 2600
NES
Sega Genesis
Turbo Express (portable Turbo Graphics 16, which was surprisingly awesome for back in the day)
PSOne
PS2
PS3

by garrettelliott on Feb 1, 2012 11:26 AM EST up reply actions  

aparently, i'm a nintendo whore

atari 2600
nes
snes
nintendo 64
game cube, barf
gameboy advance
ps2
ps3

by C$ on Feb 1, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions  

I like to collect consoles so here goes:

I had Atari 2600 with diskdrive for all them pirated games. (Thanks Dad!)

I currently have:

NES
Sega Master System
Game Boy
Turbo Grafx 16
SNES
Genesis with Sega CD
Sega Nomad
Virtual Boy
Playstation
Sega Saturn
Nintendo 64
Dreamcast
PS2
GBA
Gamecube
Xbox
Nintendo DS
Wii
Xbox 360
PS3
Old SF2 Hyper Fighting Cabinet turned into MAME arcade

I only wish I could get my hands on a Neo Geo machine.

If you ever want to get your hands on any of those old games/systems I highly recommend checking out estarland.com. They are a used game retailer here in the DC area (Fairfax) that has an AMAZING selection, and everything you get from them works.

by The truth Rodney White on Feb 10, 2012 7:45 AM EST up reply actions  

nice!

"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."

@brgulker

by brgulker on Feb 14, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions  


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