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5-Game Win Streaks? BRING THEM TO ME

It is rare when a team has to have the existential discussion tanking discussion before the All-Star break. This years pistons are lucky(?) enough to have a real chance at a top 3 pick, or were lucky, until they started this recent run of lottery ball crushing victories. Is it worth continuing to cheer for the Pistons' opponents after our recent string of luck, or is it time to fire up the bandwagon and set a course for the playoffs? Here are some thoughts I've had about this:

We are being out-tanked

The Hornets and the Nets are terrible in ways that we really can't achieve (especially now that we put a couple of their guys on the IR). Both guys have big injuries to their key players on top of having a shit roster to start with. Let's be real, their owners are to busy wondering about their future (new owner, new arena) to care about this season. Let's go ahead and throw Washington into this pot as well. We're not getting in the top three conversation unless we sneak in with a lucky lottery night, we trade away half the roster before the deadline, or Greg Monroe starts scoring baskets for the other teams because he's tired of not getting enough shots.

We already hit bottom

As bad as we are this season, we probably aren't going to end as bad as we were last year, or the year before. Last year when we were in the middle of (still) being sold, with Kuester falling apart, and Jonas got injured, that shit was terrible. Now we have a real coach who is probably too good to keep losing, we have a legit All-star caliber player, and we have talent that would make good trade fodder. We are on the rebound as a franchise and the kids might as well get some run in may or just get close enough to see what the playoffs smell like.

If the players keep improving, we'll have to start winning eventually

The growth we've seen in Moose this season is phenomenal, and it seems Jonas is coming along right with him. If everybody keeps getting better, we're going to have to win some games. Along with the bonus of player development, we are also boosting trade value. If we are winning games, we are likely to get more value for the players we have in a trade because they are a) better, and b) they seem better. That's the halo effect (Piston Powered talked more about that in the tastiest batch of Kool-aid to not come out of the Palace.

Ultimately, the Draft is too far away

So at the end of the day, we aren't getting a top 3 pick unless we get really lucky in the lottery. In the mean time, it is better for the development of our current players if we are winning games. Who knows, things might still work out in our favor. Maybe after the trade deadline someone will scoop up Stuckey and Gordon and we have to watch Knight and Walker D tank ourselves to glory. Maybe David Stern owes Gores a favor (from that dead hooker incident from the last time he was in L.A) and we'll win 2nd in the lottery. Maybe Drummond, Sullnger and the entire Kentucky team decides to return to college. We can't guarantee we will win the Unibrow we need, or that we won't. We can guarantee that the player development we see with wins now will lead to more wins later.

Don't forget about Dumars

Don't let all this draft stuff let you think that the key to rebuilding the team is in the lottery balls. It is in Joe Dumars' magic 8-ball. If he can't do something about the salary situation soon we will be talking about Greg Monroe sign-and-trade deals very soon. If he doesn't create a balanced roster it doesn't matter who we draft. Whether we get a top draft pick or not, the problem with this team is because Dumars made it that way, and he will have a variety of ways to fix it whether we pick 4 or 15. The onus for fixing the team should remain on him until we actually show some promise, or he gets fired.

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unfortunately stuckey can’t be traded this season.

still top 5-6 pick worthy, just not top 3. we still suck so i suppose we should probably relax about this winning streak.

by mcflies on Feb 11, 2012 5:54 PM EST reply actions  

Actually, I think Stuckey can be traded this season.

Newly-signed free agents can’t be traded until March 1st, but the trade deadline isn’t until March 15th this season.

You, Me, & Ronald Dupree

by Teal Stallion on Feb 11, 2012 10:45 PM EST up reply actions  

December 2009

Iverson was on the team and the 5 game winning streak ended in Portland with myself and my buddy in attendance. Iverson hit a game winner, then Travis Outlaw ended up one-upping and winning the game at the very end.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Feb 12, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

wouldn't that have been December of 2008?

We had a five game win streak the year after Iverson in 2009.

by Mike Payne on Feb 12, 2012 6:42 PM EST up reply actions  

oh good point...:-(

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Feb 12, 2012 9:20 PM EST up reply actions  

If I had crawled out of a rock today,

I would’ve thought that there were streaking contests at the Palace to boost attendance, but seems like there has enough talk about giving, in the words Dick Vitale, our diaper dandies some P.T.
It’s been like beating a dead horse that won’t die.

all i wanted for christmas has to wait for another year

by alaskanpistonsfan on Feb 12, 2012 2:58 PM EST reply actions  

NJ is that terrible?

They do have D-Will. They may end up worse than us but I don’t think it’s a given.
But perhaps you were thinking of Charlotte, who are terrible. They together with NO and Washington will probably end up the worst 3 teams.

We will probably be in the 4-8 range, still may get better odds this year and maybe this time get lucky? Also, one of the top teams may draft Drummond or Barnes, or Jones, all of whom we don’t want, improving our chances at getting Robinson or Michael Kidd-Glichrist.

Also, I would love for us to trade some a player or two, though currently Tay is the only one that has value who I would part with gladly. Trade him to a good team in search of an extra piece for their pick (best way to tank anyway).

Anybody can happen!

by Tom Y. on Feb 12, 2012 4:11 PM EST reply actions  

NJ is pretty terrible, but I did forget about Charlotte

Right now it’s D-Will and a D-League team with all the injuries. Until they get back they will be losing something terrible. Then when the trade deadline comes they will realize what a horrible, horrible mistake they made with the whole D-will thing and unload him for whatever a contender will give them, after they realize Howard isn’t going there. That is going to be really sad to see.

Charlotte is really bad too though, they gave up on being any kind of competitive at all this year, but they shouldn’t be. It seemed like they were good enough to only kind of suck this year.

Trade him to a good team in search of an extra piece for their pick (best way to tank anyway).

Oh that is high-class tanking right there. It’d be nice to see some one get amnestied there too.

Welcome... to the Wallace-hood

by tads on Feb 12, 2012 5:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Howard apparently wants to be in New Jersey...

but if he gets there, it will be on draft day. I could see something along the following lines:

Hedo Turtlepoo
Dwight Howard

for

Brook Lopez
Anthony Morrow
Mehmet Okur
Kris Humphries
New Jersey’s 2012 1st round draft pick

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Feb 12, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions  

I should have removed the "draft day" comment

the only way that New Jersey will land howard is before the trade deadline. The expiring contracts associated with Memo and Humphries is the only valuable assets they have aside from Williams.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Feb 12, 2012 5:15 PM EST up reply actions  

So it’s

Howard
Shelden
Shawne
Brooks
D. Williams

for the rest of the season? Is that team better than us?

Welcome... to the Wallace-hood

by tads on Feb 12, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions  

I'm not saying its great but I don't see how Orlando parts with Howard for much less

if Howard is insisting on the Nets…

and yeah, Howard/D-Will/Brooks is pretty solid core to build around. Turtle Poo is terrible but at least he fills a roster spot, and they’d still have a good amount of cash to go after some other guys in the off season…hell Humphries is a free agent, they could always re-sign him at the end of the year, but with Howard, I think they would likely need to look for someone with Anderson’s skillsets moreso than Humphries.

Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.

by The Boourns on Feb 12, 2012 5:41 PM EST up reply actions  

Did I hear

You say Charlie V’s skillset?

by aussiepiston on Feb 12, 2012 6:00 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions  

I was saying that rhetorically, I probably should have finished it off as follows:

for the rest of the season? Is that team better than us?

Is that pile of turd better than us? Jeez…

Insert facepalm image

Welcome... to the Wallace-hood

by tads on Feb 12, 2012 8:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Possible Solution

Stop saying Anthony Davis’ name so other teams forget he exists

We didn't lose the games, we just ran out of time -- Bobby Layne

by detpistons3 on Feb 13, 2012 1:41 PM EST reply actions  

Or start saying everyone else’s name more often! CONTROVERSIAL!

by garrettelliott on Feb 13, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions  

Many recs to whoever writes a CONTROVERSIAL news story on the latest CONTROVERSY involving that CONTROVERSIAL player and the CONTROVERSY about his CONTROVERSIAL unibrow.

by -PS- on Feb 13, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs


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