Spurs v. Pistons, PTR vs. DBB: Fraternizing with the Enemy
You'd think for all the bad blood we shared during the last decade, Pistons and Spurs fans would want nothing to do with one another. But if you take the black and silver or the red, white and royal blue out of the equation, we fans have a lot in common. So we discovered last season, when the intersection of character (and memes) was a bit too startling for our own comfort. If you're behind on the whole story, here's an abbreviated version:

PoundingTheRock interviews us, we interview them, realize we have a scary amount of things in common, even memes. Shinons gets his picture taken with Robert Horry holding a red panda, sends it to SpursFanSteve of PoundingTheRock, and a weird kind of brotherhood was born. Continuing that, I asked SpursFanSteve some questions about his 2011-12 Spurs, he did the same of our 2011-12 Pistons. Without further adieu, here's Steve!
MP: Where is this mystical fountain of youth, and do you think Tim, Tony and Manu would mind sharing a sip or two with Ben Wallace? In real terms, what is the secret to the absolutely excellent seasons that Tim Duncan, Tony Parker, and the newly-returned Manu Ginobili are having? How long do you think it will continue?
SFS: Where it is, I don't know, but it's entirely possible Tim Duncan is, in reality, the Punisher. Or at least cast a spell on his knee brace to give him a +5 to all rebounding, blocking, and jump shooting rolls. As for Tony, he's just as old as 29 year old can possibly be. Manus' powers seem to grow with his bald spot...which is the opposite of what I thought would happen. I've always equated long, flowing hair with supreme Argentine athleticism. Of course, since testosterone is the hormone that causes hair loss (specifically too much testosterone) I suppose it shouldn't be too much of a surprise. If only I could be so lucky. If there's one player I wouldn't mind sharing the fountain of youth with, though, it'd be Ben Wallace. Always enjoyed his blocks and dunks style game. Ben Wallace will always be one of my favorite non-Spurs.
MP: Behind Tim Duncan, Tiago Splitter is beginning to look the real talent that RC Buford has pegged him as. What are your expectations for Splitter? Can he help keep the Spurs semi-competitive after Duncan departs?
SFS: Absolutely. He's definitely not Tim Duncan, but he's a solid defender with an above average post game. He is, IMO, the best backup big in the league, and would likely be a top 6 or 7 starting big. He's better than Marc Gasol- although I'm not sure how much that's saying considering how horribly overpaid he got this summer. If Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili retired right now, I think we're probably the eighth seed in the West. A lot of that is because Tony Parker is so ridiculously good. The other parts are Tiago Splitter, Danny Green, and Kawhi Leonard.
MP: Kawhi Leonard was one of the few players worth holding on to a draft pick for in 2011. How has he panned out for San Antonio, and where do you expect him to be once he gets a hang of the NBA?
SFS: KAWHI LEONARD IS AWESOME. He's the only player on our team that routinely dunks. He blocks shots. He gets steals. He rebounds like a frontcourt player even though we've been playing him on the wing. He's an excellent defender. Recently, he's been hitting his shots, too, which makes him a bad, bad man. He's also very soft spoken. He fits in perfect. George Hill was one of my favorite Spurs, and, frankly, Kawhi is making me not miss him at all. He limited Kevin Durant, he's covered Lebron. His only major defensive weakness is that he's still learning how to get around screens off the ball. He'll figure that out, though, and then he'll be able to cover everyone from Kevin Martin to Kobe Bryant to Lamar Odom efficiently.
MP: Despite a slight increase in playing time and usage this season, DeJuan Blair's rebounding has appeared to have fallen off. What do you attribute this to? Is Blair useful without being a patented rebounding machine?
SFS: He's not entirely useless if he's not a rebounding machine, because he still makes the other team account for him, but he's also much, much less useful. Put it this way: on Pounding the Rock, he's essentially become trade bait. While I vehemently (and I mean that) disagree with everyone who thinks we should trade him, I certainly feel I'm in the minority. He gets steals and lots of deflections. He's started taking charges. He's outrunning the other team's bigs, frequently being the first guy down the court. He shows flashes of a good post game every now and then, but his inconsistency (on both ends) is what drives everyone crazy.
MP: What are your three favorite memes on PoundingTheRock?
SFS: The TWSS meme is pretty awesome. Honestly, I don't spend enough time in the game threads to keep up with most of the new ones, but we still post a halftime fish almost every game for good mojo, as well as LatinD's Korean comics...although whether those or the meme or that everyone hates them is the meme is up for debate. It's kind of a meme within a meme.
MP: Every team has a rival they hate, and a player they cannot stand the most on that team. For the Pistons, that player is probably Kevin Garnett. Who is it that boils the blood of the fine folks at PoundingTheRock?
SFS: Easy answer? Kobe Bryant. Honestly though he's pretty much at the point where you just have to respect him (at least for me). Chris Paul is up there...Lebron...I'm not sure if there's a consensus. I completely agree with DBB on Garnett, though. I'm ready for his punk ass to retire. Here's my favorite KG highlight reel. I especially like from the 2:30 mark on, where Jason Maxiell eats his baby, Matt Bonner eats his sandwich, and Antonio Mcdyess makes KG crap a brick. I hope DBB enjoys that as much as I do.
MP: Thanks for taking the time to chat, MFSFS. You may wear the wrong jersey at the end of the day, but there's certainly a weird kind of brotherhood between PoundingTheRock and DetroitBadBoys. Also, big ups to 540 comments (and counting) on DBB, Steve. Here's to 540 more before the next interview!
If you'd like to check out what Steve asked me over on PoundingTheRock, check out his post: Fraternizing with... DBB!!
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that is sweet of you two!
anyway, can someone explain what red panda means.. kinda new around here..
The first rule of pandas
is you don’t talk about red ones.
by Danny D on Feb 14, 2012 11:05 AM EST up reply actions 2 recs
My favorite thing about DBB and the Red Panda
Is how you guys use it as your only response to trolls. It’s the perfect way to handle them.
Don’t engage them in argument, don’t reply to their taunts or try to reason with them, just drop Red Pandas on them until silence reigns. Awesome.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
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by J.R. Wilco on Feb 14, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Our Motto: Never feed the trolls
Except with Red Panda’s.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
Self-rec'ing for incorrect punctuation?
Priceless.
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A Red Panda represents a cataclysm of apocalyptic death.
by madpoopz on Feb 14, 2012 11:10 AM EST up reply actions 6 recs
Chess with Friends is much more fun
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
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What the hell? Cee Lo is sweet!
And all grant needs to do is search for a brief history of red pandas on the interwebs
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Feb 14, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
I have read http://www.detroitbadboys.com/2011/4/23/2129072/a-tale-of-two-red-pandas
but still cant relate the panda to dbb.. actually it’s been 1.5 year since the first time i read about panda.
I'll do the work since I have the internet installed on my computer.
by madpoopz on Feb 14, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Has it really been since September, 2010? It feels like yesterday.
Time flies when your team sucks balls!
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
by brgulker on Feb 14, 2012 12:56 PM EST up reply actions 4 recs
A brief history of the Pistons.
1. suck
2. Bad Boys
3. teal suck
4. 2004
5. decline
6. red pandas
7. MOOSE
by -PS- on Feb 14, 2012 3:38 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
Wouldn't #8 be
Rhino Excrement?
Or would that be 6.5?
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It’s too early to tell whether #8 is rhino waste. Depends on whether DET gets BLOCKS AND DUNKS 2.0 in this year’s draft.
Hope you guys win the lotto. If for no other reason than me wanting to see how awesome a Monroe/Davis frontcourt can be.
The longest, brightest day is followed by the darkest night.
Man, that fake tan makes him look orange.
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You're lucky
My computer didn’t come with the internet installed on it. It’s got something with a series of tubes.
I hate generic knock-offs.
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Interesting tale....
my friends mom thought that the internet had to be installed on a computer. Trying to explain to her that the storage for such an install would be impossibly massive did not work. So we just “installed” the internet on her computer.
by madpoopz on Feb 14, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
The best defense to digital ignorance
Is playing by the rules of the “differently abled” and just going with whatever terms they understand.
I mean, is gramma REALLY going to run into too many people who’ll ostracize her b/c she tells them her gigs are all filled up?
Prolly naught.
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When You Going To Change With The Times?
Like, for starters, changing your handle to “madrhinopoopz”?
I could give a flying fuck whether you follow me or not on Twitter.
by V. on Feb 14, 2012 2:06 PM EST up reply actions
Positively scatological
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Thanks for leaving me
your number 2
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Wouldn’t number 1 be easier to deal with?
The longest, brightest day is followed by the darkest night.
Easier, sure
But far less topical
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Not to mention the possibility of 2000lbs of urine
Or as it’s sometimes called, a Piss-ton.
(too far?)
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
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by J.R. Wilco on Feb 14, 2012 3:13 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Didn't know liquid only has weight when it's frozen
=]
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
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Um ...
thanks?
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Glad to see there’s another group of people that cannot stand Kevin Garnett. My favorite KG moment was when Manu Ginobili blocked his ass and laid him out on the floor in front of the Garden. Just a beautiful, beautiful moment that I’ll replay in my mind time and again long after KG and his mouth retire.
On a more positive note, really enjoy lurking DBB—idk why i haven’t posted until now, but I always feel like i’m in some bizarro win of PtR when I come over here. Here’s to y’all rebuilding quickly (in spite of Joe Dumars) and restoring order to the East!
"You may all go to hell, and I will go to Texas." -Davy Crockett
"Give me an army of West Point graduates, and I'll win a battle. Give me a handful of Texas Aggies, and I'll win a war." -Gen. George S. Patton
by Trey Felder on Feb 14, 2012 11:23 AM EST reply actions 4 recs
By bizarro world, you mean where the Spurs are actually one of the worst instead of one of the best, and Buford
somehow got rid of all your best veterans and kept Bruce Bowen even though he’s now like 40 years old? Yeah…I feel the same way about PtR…
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
by The Boourns on Feb 14, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
At least Bruce Bowen would try to break the opposition.
Tayshaun prefers breaking the spirit of his young teammates.
Fire Joe Dumars
by Kriz on Feb 14, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions 6 recs
When I found out about Isolayshaun
I fell in love with DBB all over again.
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I sense her presence
Her power is indeed great.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
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We bow before your greatness and wonderful puns on player’s names
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Feb 14, 2012 1:55 PM EST up reply actions
Isn't That What Veteran Leadership Is All About?
I could give a flying fuck whether you follow me or not on Twitter.
by V. on Feb 14, 2012 2:07 PM EST up reply actions
It’s like rookie hazing… during the game. He’s taken it to a whole new level.
The longest, brightest day is followed by the darkest night.
"Strong enough that they don't even need heartbeats anymore."
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by J.R. Wilco on Feb 14, 2012 2:43 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Ugh.
PTR and SFS are making it really hard to keep hating the Spurs.
by TDP on Feb 14, 2012 11:34 AM EST via Android app reply actions
Here’s a link for the Tim Duncan as punisher reference, and yes, it is real.
Cinnamon and sugary as softly spoken lies, you never know just how you look through other peoples' eyes
It’s a thing on PtR that our dream is play a tabletop RPG with Duncan. At least, it’s my dream… I can’t speak for the other DnD unbelievers
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Feb 14, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
If I could pick any one thing in the world to do before I die, it would be to have a nerd-day with Duncan.
Cinnamon and sugary as softly spoken lies, you never know just how you look through other peoples' eyes
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 14, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
you should invite Elden Campbell too...
I’ve heard his level 7 warlock is not to be trifled with.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
No, no—I would give almost ANYTHING to do this.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Feb 14, 2012 2:37 PM EST up reply actions
I don't know though
Duncan seems like the type of guy to block your 20-sided off the table if it looks like you’re rolling 18 and higher, then just cock his head and give you a blank stare. If you’re rolling 17 or below, I bet he’s awesome though.
by Mike Payne on Feb 14, 2012 3:34 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
This…is one of the best Duncan quotes ever.
Cinnamon and sugary as softly spoken lies, you never know just how you look through other peoples' eyes
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 14, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions
When Duncan crit-fails
He does that thing where his eyes get really wide after he’s called for a foul.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Feb 14, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
What do you mean I drop my weapon and am knocked prone?

How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Feb 14, 2012 4:08 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
Genius gets wrecked
Also, great idea for him to be playing D&D in his jersey, in front of a full house, on game night, on the court.
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The Spurs manage their personnel the way I wish Detroit did.
Blair and Leonard were incredible picks, and Splitter is proving to be very, very good.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
Splitter's FG% alone
would make him legit, but he’s got lateral quickness, solid shotblocking #’s, and a seriously high BBIQ.
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by J.R. Wilco on Feb 14, 2012 1:10 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
All I can say is, don’t let khandor anywhere near that lexicon!
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
Well try to keep the mighty khan
fenced in somewhere between over there and over here (start at the end of the document for the most recent).
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Bareback Barbecue?
Sounds like a title from MP’s video library.
I could give a flying fuck whether you follow me or not on Twitter.
by V. on Feb 14, 2012 2:08 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
(<— turns down the volume on BB BBQ #17)
HEY!
by Mike Payne on Feb 14, 2012 3:36 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
love this lexicon page
I know MFMW has been talking about getting one going on DBB for years
by Packey on Feb 14, 2012 7:04 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Glad you enjoyed it.
And, take it easy on MFWM.
It’s a TON of work to put together and keep updated. And when SBNation’s search feature isn’t working correctly (as has been the case for the past few months), then it can be impossible to do if you haven’t already saved all the links necessary — especially when you’re looking for the first usages of terms, etc.
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To save one person a whole bunch of work, we should all volunteer to do 2 or 3 entries. Then email them to Packey or Matt and just let them compile everything. Socialism?!?!?
by garrettelliott on Feb 14, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
Your honor, I have stated in this court that I am opposed to the form of our present government; that I am opposed to the social system in which we live; that I believe in the change of both but by perfectly peaceable and orderly means….
I am thinking this morning of the men in the mills and factories; I am thinking of the women who, for a paltry wage, are compelled to work out their lives; of the little children who, in this system, are robbed of their childhood, and in their early, tender years, are seized in the remorseless grasp of Mammon, and forced into the industrial dungeons, there to feed the machines while they themselves are being starved body and soul….
Your honor, I ask no mercy, I plead for no immunity. I realize that finally the right must prevail. I never more fully comprehended than now the great struggle between the powers of greed on the one hand and upon the other the rising hosts of freedom. I can see the dawn of a better day of humanity. The people are awakening. In due course of time they will come into their own.
When the mariner, sailing over tropic seas, looks for relief from his weary watch, he turns his eyes toward the Southern Cross, burning luridly above the tempest-vexed ocean. As the midnight approaches the Southern Cross begins to bend, and the whirling worlds change their places, and with starry finger-points the Almighty marks the passage of Time upon the dial of the universe; and though no bell may beat the glad tidings, the look-out knows that the midnight is passing – that relief and rest are close at hand.
Let the people take heart and hope everywhere, for the cross is bending, midnight is passing, and joy cometh with the morning.
-Eugene Debs
Cinnamon and sugary as softly spoken lies, you never know just how you look through other peoples' eyes
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 14, 2012 7:29 PM EST up reply actions
Ok, Eugene Debs
But which piece is that from?
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It’s actually a quote from his trial. Instead of calling witnesses to his defense, he asked to speak on his own behalf and gave a 2 hours speech, of which that is an exert.
"Losing doesn't build character, losing just sucks. You know, sometimes though, you've got to lose in order to be able to enjoy winning" - Ben Wallace
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 15, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
Sure it is
There’s no way to talk for two hours without having the chance to exert yourself.
Which reminds me, I really do love a good exert. There’s just nothing like it.
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you know....
i literally knew that was wrong before I hit post. But I tried to fix it and spell check said I had it wrong, so I put it back like that.
"Losing doesn't build character, losing just sucks. You know, sometimes though, you've got to lose in order to be able to enjoy winning" - Ben Wallace
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 15, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, sure
The old, ‘But I trusted spell check instead of taking the time to hit merriam-webster.com’ excuse.
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I've hated dictionaries
ever since my sister dropped “Norton’s Anthology of English” on my head (it was the unabridged addition) because I wouldn’t share my computer.
"Losing doesn't build character, losing just sucks. You know, sometimes though, you've got to lose in order to be able to enjoy winning" - Ben Wallace
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 15, 2012 7:27 PM EST up reply actions
But online versions of dictionaries
Can’t be dropped on your head.
No, a Kindle doesn’t count!
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I'm down with that
I’m surprised we’ve put this off for so long — I think there’s a DBB Glossary currently in drafts from Ian Cameron, dated like 2008, I think. Or there was recently.
You should really have one of these too
And not just for stuff that the players and coaches say, if you scroll to the bottom, you’ll find that most of the page is from stuff that happens in the comments section, great lines like this line from Kriz that would be a shame to forget, or to miss if for some reason someone never got to this post.
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Thanks, glad you like it
And I’m not sure if I mentioned this already, but there’s the Nicknames page too. Although I’ve been thinking about folding it into the Lexicon for a while. I haven’t done that yet.
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Kawhi Leonard
After all the big men fell off the board, I was hoping the Pistons would draft Leonard. I think in a lot of ways Brandon Knight is showing more skill than I thought he had, but man, reading that about Leonard really made my heart sink a little.
With Leonard on board the Pistons wouldn’t have re-signed Tayshaun. Of course, then they probably would have felt more pressure to go five years on any Stuckey deal so maybe it worked out for the best.
Follow me on Twitter @sean_corp
i thought
they offered him a 5-year deal, rumored. he turned it down because he didn’t really want to play here, but then committed to three years for some reason? being 28 for your third NBA contract is probably a good thing though, for both parties. it’s that iffy 30 year old range where joe johnson, tayshaun, rip, etc get to where you can really screw yourselves.
There were only three guys I was interested in at our position: Faried, Leonard, Markief Morris.
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
Samesies, but only because of peer pressure.
by garrettelliott on Feb 14, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions 3 recs
If all your friends ate poutine, would you too?
by -PS- on Feb 14, 2012 3:40 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
are you kidding me Garrett?
Poutine is fucking amazing. French Fries, Gravy, and Cheese Curds? My anus screams no, but my stomach says yes.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Agreed.
Cinnamon and sugary as softly spoken lies, you never know just how you look through other peoples' eyes
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 14, 2012 5:04 PM EST up reply actions
YOU BIT YOUR TONGUE
Poutine is fucking delicious.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Feb 14, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
Or bite
Stupid tenses.
How's that for a slice of fried gold?
by Thom not Tom Gores on Feb 14, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions
After BLOCKS AND DUNKS! got drafted I lost all hope in that draft.
Still haven’t gotten it back.
Fire Joe Dumars
Think about it this way Kriz...
if blocks and dunks hadn’t been drafted before us, and Dumars still took Knight, how much worse would you feel today?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
You bring to attention a very plausible situation, Boo.
urns.
In a way, Charlotte saved my sanity.
Fire Joe Dumars
Thanks Mike Jordan!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
was that a general spit on the ground, or a spit in my general direction...
Will I need to don my dueling glove Kriz?
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
::reminds self to watch Robin Hood: Men in Tights again::
The longest, brightest day is followed by the darkest night.
by Tim C. on Feb 14, 2012 4:03 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I LOVE that movie
You have no idea how hard I rec’d that reference.
My federal building is way cooler than your federal building.
Won't be necessary, this will be decided with knives.

Fire Joe Dumars
by Kriz on Feb 14, 2012 4:10 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Crazy thing about Leonard
I always liked Malcolm Thomas better when I’d watch SDSU. I super duper wanted the Pistons to go after him for the late second round or as a free agent (since he went undrafted).
Of course, they didn’t. Of course, the Spurs did.
And then the Spurs released Thomas last week
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Or that you were able to like the stuff that he does do?
Just curious as to whether the JOD stuff is a reference to Job, from the Bible. You know, the guy who had it so good until everything suddenly went against him and he didn’t know why?
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I’ve always interpreted JOD as God + Job. All-powerful, but just doesn’t get it.
by -PS- on Feb 14, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
no, stuff, like anything
God – omnipotence = JoD?
For the love of Jod!
It’s everything and anything. It’s heaven and hell. Glory and Payne. Triumph and failure. Gulker and Kandor.
It’s the fulfilled Body (aka the alpha) and Isolayshun (the omega)
Fire Joe Dumars
by Kriz on Feb 14, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions 5 recs
it's a cheeseburger in one hand and a slice of pizza in the other!
and therefore making your choices by slamming your face into the keyboard!
Stop eating JOD!
Now I know
making your choices by slamming your face into the keyboard
how his draft day decisions come out so strange!
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Stupid keyboard
Not calibrated for JOD’s face.
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by J.R. Wilco on Feb 14, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I'll take him just doing anything
I just looked this up and was shocked. Joe Dumars hasn’t traded one player for another player (meaning not an expiring contract or draft pick) since Chauncey and Dyess for AI. Seriously. He has not made a trade to acquire a player in 3 and a half years.
I WANT TO BREAK THINGS NOW!
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Moose for Bonner
DO IT JOD!
Cinnamon and sugary as softly spoken lies, you never know just how you look through other peoples' eyes
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 14, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions
Bonner might be angry after being traded for such a lesser talent, though. You can’t just trade the best big man of all time for some young guy who will never reach his lofty heights.
The longest, brightest day is followed by the darkest night.
Coach B agrees.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4810YXU-mjI
Cinnamon and sugary as softly spoken lies, you never know just how you look through other peoples' eyes
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 14, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Care to help me out?
I have no idea what that means.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
Karen Davidson. Everything was her fault. Especially Elizabeth Reaser.

Meow.
by garrettelliott on Feb 15, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
meme within a meme
OH GOD I’VE BEEN INCEPTED.
What’s happening, sibling bloggers?
The longest, brightest day is followed by the darkest night.
by Tim C. on Feb 14, 2012 11:53 AM EST reply actions 2 recs
Hope the PtR
Boys never have to talk about how much Buford sucks and should be fired. Or why it’s taking 1 1/2 years to sell the team. Or why they’ve had 6 coaches in 7 years after Pop starts interviewing with the Lakers during the playoffs.
I wouldn’t wish that stuff even on my worst enemies, and the Spurs aren’t even top 10.
by Big Z in Orlando on Feb 14, 2012 11:58 AM EST reply actions
About Blair, I have noticed his rebounds are down and I think there are a few reasons for that. 1. There’s not as many to go around. You have two wing players who rebound effectively and that means Blair doesn’t get as many chances as he used to. #2 is closer in conjunction to #1, opposing teams have focused on stopping Blair getting those rebounds and sometimes double teaming him on the box out. However, this allows a wing player to swoop in and grab the rebound. So while Blair’s rebounding #‘s are going down, the team’s rebounding numbers are going up.
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Feb 14, 2012 12:06 PM EST reply actions
ahh yes
the law of diminishing rebounds. which typically only effects defensive rebound rate correct? i’d have to read up on the theory. so Moose can still dominate the offensive glass when we actually put another rebounder next to him.
It’s also why people like Randolph make the team better without really passing at all. He just opens up rebound opportunities.
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Feb 14, 2012 1:57 PM EST up reply actions
Great job, guys! I’m always a fan of PtR stuff and should check the site more often. And it wouldn’t be a DBB/PtR meetup if someone didn’t post this:

Also, MFSFS posts the best links on Facebook. I’m just saying.
by garrettelliott on Feb 14, 2012 12:37 PM EST reply actions 8 recs
Hey, SFS
That’s a nice purse you got there. Where’d you get it?
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
…
touche, Newman. Touche.
Cinnamon and sugary as softly spoken lies, you never know just how you look through other peoples' eyes
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 14, 2012 2:25 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
so...
i take it we’re on the right.
and what’s elaine a portal to an alternate universe or the day we traded billups?
it would have been impossible to sustain it. i don’t get how the spurs have done it quite honestly. dudes are old, but still good. our dudes got old, and just sucked.
I guess it would start with properly identifying the strongest pieces.
For the Spurs is more obvious than the Pistons. Still, I think most people would pick Billups + Wallace over Hamilton + Prince.
Actually, I’m not sure in what world would people consider Rip superior to Chauncey and Prince superior to Ben.
Fire Joe Dumars
(Falls down)
Um, I’m not sure this is going to work out.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
Sorry
sorry
sorry
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
Didn't mean to confuse
I’m just quoting Seinfeld.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
From far away, the girl in the middle looks like Pam
"If the NBA season is a marathon, Gregg Popovich is a full-blooded Kenyan."
-Timothy Varner 48MoH
by Jordan Leithart on Feb 14, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Great job to Mike Payne and SFS
Thanks for keeping the blog love going between PtR and DBB on Valentine’s Day.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
If that doesn’t make whatever ridiculous contract Dumars gives Maxiell at the next available opportunity at least not totally mind blowing, I don’t know what will.
Cinnamon and sugary as softly spoken lies, you never know just how you look through other peoples' eyes
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 14, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
In honor of our glorious Valentine's Day reunion, I submit the following as a gesture of eternal love and mutual respect:

"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
by brgulker on Feb 14, 2012 1:59 PM EST reply actions 4 recs
The parallels are outstanding!

Fire Joe Dumars
by Kriz on Feb 14, 2012 2:24 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
I love a good reply fail early in the afternoon
Smells like … victory.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
Reply Fail Secondary Definition
When Greg Monroe passes the ball out to Tayshaun, then proceeds to re-establish himself in the post in even better position, only to find Tayshaun wave him out and isolate before throwing up a brick ass shot.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Nice work
For my money, that’s every bit as good as these ideas of basketball meanings for blogging terms.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
Good find - I just added "Hack-a-Shaq"
or in blogging terms, "Hack-a-Troll" – When all members of a respective blog band together to inundate a troll with meaningless responses (DetroitBadBoys.com uses images of Red Pandas) until the troller either removes themselves from the post or the post itself has run its course.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
This is my favorite red panda avalanche on DBB—
by -PS- on Feb 14, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
agreed.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Oh my cow!
This made me GOL until I couldna GOL no more.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
I like
NTTAWWT
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Yeah
The acronyms are some of my favorites.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
Yo dawgs
I heard you like game previews…
So I wrote one. It’s over in the fanposts.
Cinnamon and sugary as softly spoken lies, you never know just how you look through other peoples' eyes
but to read your game preview would require me to leave this thread...
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
refresh, open in new window.
problem- solved.
Cinnamon and sugary as softly spoken lies, you never know just how you look through other peoples' eyes
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 14, 2012 4:41 PM EST up reply actions
Don't you mean "right-click"
instead of “refresh”
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
Press Alt+F4
and then press ENTER
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
I gif stuff
Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Abraham Lincoln
by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Listen...I don't know how to operate these new fangled machines like you do...
I don’t “work” at a “company” that “produces” “software”…
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
You guys have an awesome community here.
The red pandas and coachDP are enough to make this my favorite blog aside form PtR.
While I respect SfS’ epinion about what rival we hate, I would have to say it’s actually Jason Eugene Terry. Garnett is a jackass, Kobe’s Kobe and Paul is a little punk but Terry is the worst. Seriously, F#*k Jason Terry.
Oh and sorry for the Spurs not getting Ice for Dice.
"Manu Ginobili is the ultimate human cheat code, the password to the rim."
-Alex Dewey
Forgot about him. You, sir, hit the jackpot. The least favorite player from (probably) the least favorite team.
Cinnamon and sugary as softly spoken lies, you never know just how you look through other peoples' eyes
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 14, 2012 5:13 PM EST up reply actions
That’s an interesting choice. It’s the tattoo, isn’t it?

by garrettelliott on Feb 14, 2012 7:19 PM EST up reply actions
I bite my tongue at him.
Cinnamon and sugary as softly spoken lies, you never know just how you look through other peoples' eyes
by SpursfanSteve on Feb 14, 2012 7:26 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
That game when you guys played them and Pops kept the bench in the entire 4th quarter and OT was a great game. I wish that you guys would’ve pulled that one out. BUT, Terry’s punkass was waving his arms up and down and trying to get all hype about beating the Spurs’ bench after being up by 20 points. I was trying to figure out why he was getting all excited. An actual NBA player would’ve been pissed that his team let a 20 point lead slip away to 5 bench players. Not that you guys don’t have any talent off the bench, Splitter, Green, and Neal are all pretty good. Especially Splitter.
"Austin Daye with the miss"- George Blaha
Hey I can use the subject line here without having my self esteem crushed to bits!
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
I gif stuff
Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Abraham Lincoln
I CAN’T HEAR YOU
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
I gif stuff
Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Abraham Lincoln
by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 5:14 PM EST up reply actions
Nice.
BTW, I hope I crush you in fantasy this week. :D
The longest, brightest day is followed by the darkest night.
Dude no way
Except four of my guys are injured… again… I don’t know how I’m even alive for the playoffs. Eric Gordon better come back in time for the playoffs… waste of a high pick.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
I gif stuff
Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Abraham Lincoln
by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 5:16 PM EST up reply actions
Nah he sucks
Just watch… he’ll be stuck on the bench again.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
I gif stuff
Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Abraham Lincoln
by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
One thing I don't get
Why’d you cut Rip to pick up Chandler? You could’ve cut Duhon or something. 10 fantasy points per game isn’t going to make that big a difference.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
I gif stuff
Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Abraham Lincoln
by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 5:23 PM EST up reply actions
Rip is out for a few more weeks. Might as well keep a guy who’s giving me ANYTHING right now.
The longest, brightest day is followed by the darkest night.
But Chandler is playing in China for a couple more weeks in the playoffs…
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
I gif stuff
Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Abraham Lincoln
by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 5:42 PM EST up reply actions
True. But I don’t want to carry multiple guys who are giving me zero. Did that a while back when I stupidly held on to Bogut after his first inactive stint, whilst trading for Manu. I’m too far back in the standings to take that hit.
Also, isn’t Chandler’s team one of the weaker ones? I thought about picking up Brooks, but his team is first place.
The longest, brightest day is followed by the darkest night.
Yeah Brooks is definitely not coming back for awhile
Brooks also isn’t that good
Chandler will probably be back later February or early March because his team isn’t that good, probably out in the first or second round.
I don’t know why I’m holding on to Gordon… but at this point it’s too late, I have to roll with it. Having Lin helps
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
I gif stuff
Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Abraham Lincoln
by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 5:49 PM EST up reply actions
So, your comment above made me realize I never made some changes I’ve been meaning to for a while. We’re going to have 8 playoff teams, and start the playoffs a week later(since the actual season ends later than normal anyway). So maybe that will help with your injury woes as well.
The longest, brightest day is followed by the darkest night.
:O
Then I should have picked up Chandler AND JR Smith… but I didn’t want to have five injured guys on my roster (though one of them might be coming back soon)
Ah well I guess it’s time to claim Rip
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
I gif stuff
Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Abraham Lincoln
by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 5:57 PM EST up reply actions
Bu that seems pretty dishonest, given the rule changes. Damnit.
The longest, brightest day is followed by the darkest night.
Brooks isn't that good anyways
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
I gif stuff
Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Abraham Lincoln
by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 6:04 PM EST up reply actions
So anyways
How is Monroe? Is he the post up presence every team wants to have? Can he play a lick of defense? I know that Warriors fans wanted Monroe instead of Udoh.
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Samurai Champloo > Macross
I gif stuff
Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Abraham Lincoln
I think Monroe's actual defensive abilities are masked by the rest of his team's defensive inabilities.
The only other player whose played meaningful minutes with a better D-Rating at this point is Ben Wallace. He currently leads all bigs with 43 steals averaging 1.5 a game and while he doesn’t block shots, he plays smart post defense keeping his man in front of him and using his footwork to force his man into shooting further from the basket than he’d like.
If Greg played with guards who could actually defend (Knight, Gordon, Prince, Stuckey, and Wilkins all have D-Ratings of 111 or worse), he probably wouldn’t be forced to foul as much and would be able to focus more of his time on stopping his own man rather than stopping his guard’s man.
Jonas Jerebko once killed a charging female rhinoceros in heat protecting its young with nothing more than a hook shot.
Interesting
How’s Brandon Knight progressing along? He looks sort of good offensively. but it looks like he’s very inefficient.
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
I gif stuff
Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Abraham Lincoln
by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 5:35 PM EST up reply actions
he's very non point guardish.
It’s probably too early to say that he won’t ever be one, but it looks increasing like nein.
So then is he more of a SG?
If you're watching a blowout, you can pass the time by counting the double teapots.
Samurai Champloo > Macross
I gif stuff
Don't believe everything you read on the internet - Abraham Lincoln
by doubleteapot on Feb 14, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions
2 combo guard = 1 point + 1 shooting (trying to take a positive stance to it)
by grantlp13 on Feb 14, 2012 6:24 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
I get nervous watching Knight dribble the basketball up the court. He’s a turnover machine.
Strangely enough, though, I mostly like what I’ve seen so far and hope he can get better as quickly as Monroe did.
by garrettelliott on Feb 14, 2012 7:23 PM EST up reply actions
A shooting guard who can’t shoot. A point guard who can’t pass or take care of the ball. He’s great! I LOVE him!!!! :P
"With logic he attacks. With statistics he defends."
Isn’t there an island for players like that?

by garrettelliott on Feb 15, 2012 1:06 PM EST up reply actions 2 recs
Just now getting back to the un-read comments on this thread and I must say, garrett, this is hilarious.
The 2012 season: the Spurs have a chance, but only if Manu can be Manu in the playoffs. - CapHill
Pounding the Rock
A shooting guard who can’t shoot. A point guard who can’t pass or take care of the ball. He’s great! I LOVE him!!!! :P
Oh, and he can’t draw contact/whistles and he doesn’t steal the ball from the other guy.
by Mike Payne on Feb 15, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
But he's very smart and hard working
Last week he read The Brothers Karamazov, signed up for Big Brothers Big Sisters, and started learning to play chess. And had lunch with his grandmother, finished the NYT crossword puzzle every day, and fixed Tom Gores’ desktop monitor (needed tilted).
This is so frustrating,
because I’ve been insanely busy at work lately, and I wanted to keep up with both these threads, and I’m now just so overwhelmed.
Please know I want nothing more than to drop massive pithy, laconic love bombs on you guys.
"Sometimes I think I lost something really important to me, and it turns out I already ate it."
by DrumsInTheDeep on Feb 14, 2012 5:54 PM EST reply actions 3 recs

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