Detroit Pistons 2011-2012 midseason grades
With only 66 games this season as a result of the stupid lockout, the midseason point snuck up on us and has now passed. The official halfway mark of the season was before Tuesday night's loss against the Cavaliers. Unfortunately, due to the squeezed-tight schedule, we weren't able to put together midseason grades like we did last year. While it won't be nearly as comprehensive, this post here will have to make-do.
SI.com on the other hand did come through like it did last year with midseason team grades. They gave the Pistons a dick C-minus as a whole, and this is what they had to say:
On Feb. 1, Detroit lost its seventh straight game to fall to 4-20, and it was beginning to look like the player mutiny against then-coach John Kuester last season might not be the modern nadir of the franchise after all. But since then, the Pistons have won seven of nine, and with games against Cleveland and Toronto this week, they have a chance to go into the All-Star break with genuine momentum. Guard Rodney Stuckey has finally overcome injuries enough to help lighten the load on second-year center Greg Monroe, who is having a breakout year. The roster is still littered with terrible long-term contracts and laden with combo guards at the expense of those who make ball distribution a priority. And the bargain coach Lawrence Frank recently struck with his players -- make a stop on defense and you can freelance on offense -- sounds like the teaching process is at ground zero. But winning games while you develop a franchise center isn't a bad way to end the first half.
If you're wondering about that "bargain," it's referring to what Keith Langlois wrote on February 11:
Lawrence Frank offers players a tantalizing bargain: play good defense and you don’t have to worry about mastering the playbook. "We give the ultimate gold ticket to players," he said after a Saturday practice carried out with the lively tempo of a team riding a four-game winning streak. "If we get stops, we just play out of basketball principles. We don’t run set plays off of misses. So if I’m a player and I want freedom, I’m going to get stops."
If that's a rule he just implemented in February, it's certainly working. In this month alone, the Pistons have held opponents to under 90 points four times. That number was three for the first 23 games.
Again, it's hard to tell how much the Pistons have actually improved due to the relative ease of their opponents in a bizarre bunch-like fashion, but as MFMP said in the preview of the first game of the second half, there is credit to be given for winning games against beatable opponents, which past Pistons teams had trouble doing with regularity. The Cavs loss was a step back, but still, winning seven out of 10 games against anyone is 100-percent acceptable in my book and should earn the Pistons an A on this month's report card.
And if you don't think the Pistons are improving, these useful midseason charts from PistonPowered will likely change your mind. After the jump, I'll arbitrarily go through each player.
Greg Monroe: A
I'd like to move to have Warrior added to the end of all his nicknames and not have it only be attached to 'Monroad.' All-Star snub and team's best player in just his second season at the age of 21.
I thought about giving him a C-plus, but I was afraid of getting reamed. I still might.
Rodney Stuckey: B+
He's a Top 60 player in the NBA if you're going by Hollinger's metrics. He's also one of three Pistons who are a net positive this season (if you don't count Macklin, because he has only played 71 minutes)
Ben Gordon: C-
He's 21st in the NBA in 3-point percentage, but he hasn't been much better than the rookie. I docked him a grade for being a veteran and not living up to his contract (which isn't really his fault, but you can't say it doesn't create unreasonable expectations).
Will Bynum: D+
Seeing the fewest minutes since he's been a Piston, but he's not making the most of them, either.
Walker Russel: D-league
Truest passer on the team, but he can't make shots and can't play defense. He almost prevented Linsanity, though.
Jonas Jerebko: B
Couldn't ask for much more from a late second rounder returning from a torn achilles in just his second NBA season.
Tayshaun Prince: Dick-
Okay, that's not fair ... or is it?
Jason Maxiell: C+
Having a bounce back season in terms of rebounding and defense.
Austin Daye: see Prince's grade
Completely fair.
Ben Wallace: A-
I'm grading this one on a career curve.
A cheaper, not-mopey 2012 Tayshaun Prince.
Vernon Macklin: Inc.
I wish his minutes were multiplied by ten.
Charlie Villanueva: Inc.
Two games is enough, if you know what I mean, but not enough to give a grade.
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Fully agreed across the board
level-headed grades here, MFBP. I’d also give Larry Frank a B and Joe Dumars a D for their work, and Joe gets a D because Larry gets a B.
I'd Have Uprated BK & BG
But generally agree.
Regarding BK, there are some nights where he thinks he’s still in high school, and there are nights where he’s figured it out. Also, his assist numbers would be better if his teammates shot the ball better when he passes it to him.
He can make the NBA 3, he can score, and those are favorable.
Regarding BG, he’s not a good fit for this team, I see the talent, but this isn’t the right spot for him.
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Mostly agreed
I wish I could defend Tayshaun more, but I can’t.
On the other hand, Tay is better than Daye, and if Daye doesn’t get an F (or at least a uniquely low grade), who possibly could?
And I would give Maxy a better grade. His shooting percentage is second only to Monroe among the people who get any minutes at all and he’s #3 on the team in rebounds (behind Monroe and JJ). Plus, him being in the starting lineup has at least correlated with a much better winning percentage (I know, small sample size, poor opposition, but still. . . .).
Finally, Stuckey has some good games, but he’s shooting .422. That’s worse than Gordon.
I could be grading hard on Gordon — I said I docked him for admittedly unreasonable expectations his contract creates. Stuckey makes up for his low FG% by getting to the line a lot more and he’s hitting threes at a respectable rate for the first time in his career.
I don't think you are (surprise, surprise)
The contract may inflate expectations. But Ben Gordon isn’t giving anything close to what he gave Chicago. If you look at Wins Produced, he’s posting negative production, i.e., actively taking wins off the board. If you look at Win Shares, he’s barely positive, posting a whopping 0.2 win shares on the season. In his three seasons with Detroit, he’s arguably never outplayed his own performance as a rookie.
I think it’s fair to say that his contract isn’t a realistic barometer of what we should expect. However, I don’t think you’re being hard enough on the guy. He has been absolutely horrid for three seasons now. He needs to get his sh*t together and at least start playing like the player he was, even if that won’t ever be worth what he’s paid.
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Looks like somebody forgot to drink his Kool-aid
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Sigh, the horrors of grade inflation
SI gave this season a C-? So, a C means average, acceptable, and the 11-23 Pistons are just a hair shy of that?
I like reading Packey more than I like reading SI, but I can’t agree that 7-3 in February against the easiest imaginable schedule deserves an A, because I haven’t seen “excellent” basketball from this team. They lost by 20 points to the second worst team in the NBA and blew a 17 point lead to another lottery team. And they haven’t beaten anyone who will play more than 66 games this year. It’s definitely been a better stretch and I could maybe go as high as a B+ (winning is winning). But even considering an A for this team, this season isn’t legit.
And though it’s hard to say bad about Monroe, anyone think that his defensive limitations and a few high profile no-shows might push him to an A-?
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by MrHappyMushroom on Feb 22, 2012 7:19 PM EST reply actions
you're making me blush, Mush
And I don’t disagree with you on this month’s grade thus far. I wasn’t going any deeper than the record on the surface.
As for Monroe, he played pretty well against Howard despite getting into foul trouble. He also had double-doubles against Indiana and Miami (Hibbert* and Bosh did not). He was the 2nd best C in the East through the first half, IMO, and if Howard is an A+, then Monroe gets an A. Plus, someone has to set the curve on this team.
*well, Hibbert had a double-double in the first game of the season and Monroe struggled, but that shouldn’t count because it was the first game of the season!
Yeah, he's good.
I supposed I’d see a huge enough gap between Howard and Monroe to call it an A+ – A- difference. But GM is in that general range, for sure.
Hey, after the collective abortion of these past five quarters, we’d probably both drop February into the B range, wouldn’t we?
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by MrHappyMushroom on Feb 22, 2012 9:32 PM EST up reply actions
Grading this team is tough because I don’t really know how to tell if their recent performance spike is just a random aberration or actual improvement. I lean toward the former for the most part, but Stuckey and Knight have been playing better basketball.
I also think the Brandon Knight grade is fair, because I think of a C as performing up to expectations. For better and worse, that’s been Knight so far.
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