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Hero Ball: Will Bynum or Nate Robinson



In MFMP's fantasy land, the Pistons would attempt to go after Nate Robinson. At first, I jokingly stated that he is pretty much the same as Will Bynum. I then very briefly looked at stats to see if I was even close, and on a Per 36 basis, they are. And then this morning, I saw another comment in relation to Nate Robinson being on the Pistons. Therefore, I thought it would warrant a comparison of the two.

First and foremost, both are free agents this season. Bynum is 30, Robinson 28. Robinson has 8 years in the league (played for NYK, BOS, OKC, GSW and now CHI) having been drafted into the league. Bynum wasn't drafted and has been in the league for 6 years (all but 15 of his games with the Pistons). Bynum is 6'0" and 185 lbs while Robinson is 5'9 and 180 lbs (according to NBA.com). This year, Bynum was paid $3.5 M while Robinson only received $1.1 M. However, the previous year, split between OKC and GSW, Robinson received $5.5 M.

Will Bynum hasn't been in the playoffs since 2008-09 with the Pistons while Ben Gordon of the Chicago BullsNate Robinson of the Chicago Bulls is playing really well in the playoffs (also against the former champs, just like Gordon did). Robinson may be looking for a ticket out of town with Derrick Rose likely to be back next year, though his performance and low pay may entice Chicago to resign him. Bynum has stated before that he wants to stay in Detroit...

"I want to stay," Bynum said. "My daughter is in school here, and she's comfortable. I'm 4 hours from home (Chicago). This is where I want to be. I worked my butt off to be in the position where I am."

So they're both cheap, both available, and both essentially the same stature. But what do the stats say?

Overall for the season, Robinson had an OWS of 3.5, DWS of 2.4, and WS/48 of .136 (4th on his team) with a PER of 17.4 (15.9 for his career). Bynum for the season had an OWS of 3.3, DWS of 2.9, and WS/48 of .054 (9th on the Pistons). with a PER of 16.6 (14.7 for his career). This year Robinson played in all 82 games for Chicago (they won 45 games) while Bynum only played in 65 games (taking a part in 26 of the Pistons 29 wins). Robinson averages 25.4 MPG while Bynum averages 18.8 MPG. Here's there Per36 stats for 2013 and careers.

Player FG FGA 3P 3PA FT FTA ORB DRB TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
Bynum (2012-13) 7.5 15.9 0.7 2.2 3.1 3.9 0.8 2.0 2.9 6.8 1.3 0.1 3.7 3.8 18.8
Robinson (2012-13) 6.9 15.9 2.4 6.0 2.3 2.9 0.5 2.7 3.2 6.2 1.5 0.2 2.5 3.6 18.5
Bynum (Career) 6.1 13.6 0.4 1.6 3.3 4.1 0.6 2.3 3.0 6.2 1.4 0.1 3.1 3.5 15.8
Robinson (Career) 6.4 15.0 2.1 5.8 2.8 3.6 1.0 2.8 3.8 4.7 1.4 0.1 2.3 3.8 17.7

There's not much difference there if you ask me. Below is the "On - Off" of the difference between Team and Opponent for both 2012-13 and their careers. (It's hard to explain without being long winded, so look at the bottom far right values in the Difference column here.)

Player eFG% ORB% DRB% TRB% AST% STL% BLK% TOV% ORtg
Bynum (2012-13) -.008 -1.7 -1.7 -2.0 -6.5 +0.9 +1.1 +0.0 -3.5
Robinson (2012-13) -.017 -1.1 -1.1 -3.1 -5.5 +0.2 +0.1 -1.8 -0.7
Bynum (Career) -.014 -1.5 -1.5 -1.8 -4.0 +0.6 +0.3 +0.4 -3.6
Robinson (Career) -0.006 +0.5 +0.5 -0.6 -3.0 -0.2 -0.7 -0.5 -0.2

To me, those numbers pretty much say that the team doesn't really change much whether they're on or off the floor, and overall they're actually a negative when on the floor. Especially concerning AST%, thanks to Hero Ball. However, I think Robinson negatively affects his team less than Bynum. But is this because of the players, or the supporting cast they have? If you're wondering why I'm asking about supporting cast when talking about two hero ballers, it's because these numbers more represent the team's ability with that player on the floor. I would think Robinson in 2012-13 has more of a supporting cast than Bynum. Career wise, they may be even in that regard.

With them being PG, let's look at their passing/handling skills for a second. Robinson has had 9 games of 8 or more assists this year, needing an average of 37:11 minutes of playing time to do so. Bynum has 8 games of 8 or more assists needing an average of 22:37 minutes of playing time to do so. Bynum has 36 games of 3 or fewer assists, Robinson has 34. Robinson has 11 games of 4 TO or more (7 being the highest), Bynum 10 (6 being the highest). Robinson has 13 games of 3 steals or more (5 being the highest), Bynum 2 (3 being the highest).

So if we were to after either of these guys, whom would you prefer and why? Personally, I'd go after Will MAINLY because of the connection he and Andre have. Though Bynum won't play in the starting lineup much (if at all), he will have times playing with Andre and that could be maximized. But honestly, I consider these two pretty interchangeable. If we were to draft Burke, I wouldn't want either of them on the team. But if for some reason we don't/can't resign Calderon, don't end up getting Paul or draft Burke...we might need one of these guys. And sadly, Knight was better than Stuckey and Bynum in terms of On/Off court comparisons.

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