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Who's down with Din-Widd-ie?

After the draft, some fans had hesitation over the Pistons' pick of Spencer Dinwiddie. A few of these questions inspired me to look into the numbers to see what I could find.

Not a bad pick, the 3pt shooting, getting to the line and passing ability should be useful on the offensive end.

His athletic stats though are pretty poor, low rebounding and 2pt FG%, and not a great steal rate for either PG or SG. Also a concern – this season was by far his best statistically before the injury. But the ACL tear happened before the meat of his conference schedule, so his stats may have been at least somewhat inflated.

Still it’s a 2nd round pick, and he does have skills that fit huge team needs.

by Gabe F-B on Jun 27, 2014 | 9:10 AM reply rec flag
What's the stat for "Number of working knees" and "Ability to play basketball now."

The Pistons don’t need a SF with athleticism and an ability to work within an offense in a defined role? Okay. I accidentally watched the wrong team the entire season. The Pistons should have taken GRIII for no other reason than he can play and contribute and the team needs all the players it can get.

You shouldn’t really ignore Dinwiddie’s inflated numbers because of his non-conference schedule and then the fact that he didn’t even play conference last year.

by RoverTO on Jun 27, 2014 | 12:50 PM up reply rec flag

So let's look at those numbers. Dinwiddie played in 86 college games, 45 of those against conference opponents. How do Dinwiddie's non-conference numbers stack up against his conference numbers? (Stats are Per36.)

Stat Non-Conference Conference
2011-12
FG 4.40 3.26
FGA 9.72 8.76
FG% 0.453 0.372
2P 2.45 1.95
2PA 5.93 5.39
2P% 0.414 0.363
3P 1.94 1.30
3PA 3.78 3.38
3P% 0.514 0.386
FT 5.42 3.97
FTA 6.75 4.80
FT% 0.803 0.827
ORB 1.33 0.65
DRB 4.60 3.49
TRB 5.93 4.14
AST 2.15 2.43
STL 0.61 1.24
BLK 0.51 0.24
TOV 1.84 1.89
PF 3.27 2.90
PTS 16.16 11.78
2012-13
FG 4.02 4.60
FGA 8.77 11.50
FG% 0.458 0.396
2P 2.19 3.1
2PA 4.39 6.7
2P% 0.500 0.468
3P 1.83 1.4
3PA 4.39 4.8
3P% 0.417 0.297
FT 6.49 6.7
FTA 8.41 7.8
FT% 0.772 0.858
ORB 0.37 0.27
DRB 4.39 2.54
TRB 4.75 2.80
AST 3.38 3.30
STL 1.19 1.60
BLK 0.82 0.40
TOV 3.11 2.07
PF 1.92 2.30
PTS 16.36 17.30
2013-14
FG 4.44 3.19
FGA 9.24 7.84
FG% 0.481 0.407
2P 2.67 1.45
2PA 4.98 3.48
2P% 0.536 0.417
3P 1.78 1.74
3PA 4.27 4.35
3P% 0.417 0.400
FT 7.56 4.94
FTA 8.62 6.39
FT% 0.876 0.773
ORB 0.62 0.29
DRB 3.20 2.32
TRB 3.82 2.61
AST 4.36 4.35
STL 1.78 1.74
BLK 0.36 0.00
TOV 2.04 2.03
PF 2.04 2.61
PTS 18.22 13.06
Overall
FG 4.55 3.88
FGA 9.61 10.00
FG% 0.473 0.388
2P 2.56 2.47
2PA 5.28 5.84
2P% 0.485 0.424
3P 1.99 1.40
3PA 4.33 4.16
3P% 0.459 0.337
FT 6.69 5.38
FTA 8.10 6.40
FT% 0.827 0.841
ORB 0.76 0.43
DRB 4.14 2.93
TRB 4.90 3.37
AST 3.45 3.01
STL 1.28 1.48
BLK 0.58 0.28
TOV 2.29 1.99
PF 2.32 2.60
PTS 17.78 14.54

So it does appear that Dinwiddie performs better against non-conference teams. However, that can also be said about most players who were drafted. Here's Marcus Smart's last year (17 games against Conference out of 31).

Stat Non-Conference Conference
FG 6.56 5.33
FGA 14.33 13.27
FG% 0.458 0.402
2P 4.92 3.76
2PA 8.89 7.70
2P% 0.553 0.488
3P 1.64 1.58
3PA 5.44 5.58
3P% 0.302 0.283
FT 6.13 6.48
FTA 8.98 8.55
FT% 0.683 0.759
ORB 1.29 1.76
DRB 4.66 4.79
TRB 5.96 6.55
AST 5.18 5.27
STL 3.45 3.03
BLK 0.78 0.55
TOV 3.80 2.30
PF 3.11 3.33
PTS 21.24 18.73

The only things that Smart did better in Conference games compared to non-Conference...compared to Dinwiddie, was rebounding and assisting. They both shot worse (except for free throw shooting), stole and blocked the ball better, fouled less, and scored more points in Conference. The biggest difference may be the drop off between conference vs. non-conference. I'll let you be the judge of that.

So while MFShinons* gave you a good sip of kool-aid this morning, hopefully this brings you off your sugar rush some. Personally, I like Dinwiddie and have high hopes for him, especially with SVG as the coach. However, the Pac-12 is not the strongest conference, so for such a drop off, it does concern me some. What say you DBB?

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