Comments on: Is Joe Dumars fit to run the Pistons? http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/ A Detroit Pistons blog Wed, 07 Jan 2009 04:58:48 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: DBB Countdown: George Irvine’s 46 wins | Detroit Bad Boys http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-145538 DBB Countdown: George Irvine’s 46 wins | Detroit Bad Boys Tue, 16 Sep 2008 15:13:23 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-145538 [...] responsible. Dumars’ master plan had yet to reveal itself, and as laughable as it seems now, his judgment as well as his dedication and competency were questioned. Dumars made his critics look foolish the following year — the Pistons [...] […] responsible. Dumars’ master plan had yet to reveal itself, and as laughable as it seems now, his judgment as well as his dedication and competency were questioned. Dumars made his critics look foolish the following year — the Pistons […]

]]> By: Piston fans: Is this just a hook-up, or are you gonna marry her? at Detroit Bad Boys http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-348 Piston fans: Is this just a hook-up, or are you gonna marry her? at Detroit Bad Boys Wed, 26 Apr 2006 15:20:40 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-348 [...] I have no doubt that Metro Detroit is genuinely behind the Pistons now. But by glossing over the results of the study in only a couple paragraphs, the News fails to provide the necessary grain of salt to accompany their Kool Aid. Even the most avid Piston homer recognizes that fans were not expressing this level of interest in the team only five years ago. Back in 2001, the Pistons were wrapping up a 32-50 campaign and pondering the futures of George Irvine, Billy Owens, John Wallace, and Dana Barros. "Who" you say? Exactly.2 Some were even questioning the whether Joe D was capable of returning the team to the top. [...] […] I have no doubt that Metro Detroit is genuinely behind the Pistons now. But by glossing over the results of the study in only a couple paragraphs, the News fails to provide the necessary grain of salt to accompany their Kool Aid. Even the most avid Piston homer recognizes that fans were not expressing this level of interest in the team only five years ago. Back in 2001, the Pistons were wrapping up a 32-50 campaign and pondering the futures of George Irvine, Billy Owens, John Wallace, and Dana Barros. “Who” you say? Exactly.2 Some were even questioning the whether Joe D was capable of returning the team to the top. […]

]]> By: Mavs in town; time to walk the walk at Detroit Bad Boys http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-347 Mavs in town; time to walk the walk at Detroit Bad Boys Tue, 28 Mar 2006 20:31:51 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-347 [...] McCosky also ran a brief write-up analyzing the postitives and negatives of the current Pistons' cockiness. There aren't any direct quotes from Piston players in the article to corroborate the story, but it is interesting to read the take of a beat writer who spends as much time with the team as any member of the press. McCosky isn't always right, but he does a good deal of work covering the day-to-day of this team (which, as Matt pointed out, is not always easy for journalists). [...] […] McCosky also ran a brief write-up analyzing the postitives and negatives of the current Pistons’ cockiness. There aren’t any direct quotes from Piston players in the article to corroborate the story, but it is interesting to read the take of a beat writer who spends as much time with the team as any member of the press. McCosky isn’t always right, but he does a good deal of work covering the day-to-day of this team (which, as Matt pointed out, is not always easy for journalists). […]

]]> By: One step forward, two steps back? at Detroit Bad Boys http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-346 One step forward, two steps back? at Detroit Bad Boys Fri, 17 Feb 2006 15:35:25 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-346 [...] Yes, that 2007 or 2008 draft pick is nice. And resigning Ben Wallace this offseason to a reasonable contract is a priority. But amidst what could be a dynastic run, I would have liked the focus to remain on this team's chances of winning title in '06 before concerning themselves too much with staying below an imaginary spending limit after the season ends. I've stated before that Joe always deserves the benefit of the doubt; I'm just hoping he has one more move in him before the deadline. [...] […] Yes, that 2007 or 2008 draft pick is nice. And resigning Ben Wallace this offseason to a reasonable contract is a priority. But amidst what could be a dynastic run, I would have liked the focus to remain on this team’s chances of winning title in ‘06 before concerning themselves too much with staying below an imaginary spending limit after the season ends. I’ve stated before that Joe always deserves the benefit of the doubt; I’m just hoping he has one more move in him before the deadline. […]

]]> By: farlane http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-345 farlane Sat, 04 Feb 2006 20:12:29 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-345 Just goes to show that even if you get paid to write about sports, you're unlikely to be right all the time. McCosky sure wasn't alone at the time wondering if Joey D had the right stuff. I seem to recall wondering it a time or two myself... Thanks for the great blast from the past. I'll update my post linking to McCosky's with a link to yours as well. -Andrew PS: congrats on being tapped by Deadspin as one of the best of the Piston blogs. Couldn't agree more. Just goes to show that even if you get paid to write about sports, you’re unlikely to be right all the time. McCosky sure wasn’t alone at the time wondering if Joey D had the right stuff. I seem to recall wondering it a time or two myself…

Thanks for the great blast from the past. I’ll update my post linking to McCosky’s with a link to yours as well.

-Andrew

PS: congrats on being tapped by Deadspin as one of the best of the Piston blogs. Couldn’t agree more.

]]> By: The Realests http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-344 The Realests Fri, 03 Feb 2006 22:33:18 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-344 Thanks for putting up that Telander article and ripping him. We did the same thing on my site (http://therealests.blogspot.com). Check it out. Thanks for putting up that Telander article and ripping him. We did the same thing on my site (http://therealests.blogspot.com). Check it out.

]]> By: Matt Watson http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-343 Matt Watson Fri, 03 Feb 2006 19:29:22 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-343 In the long and storied list of coaches we've gone through since Chuck Daly, Irvine is always the one that I forget about. I doubt he was ever thought to be a real piece to the puzzle. In the long and storied list of coaches we’ve gone through since Chuck Daly, Irvine is always the one that I forget about. I doubt he was ever thought to be a real piece to the puzzle.

]]> By: Ian Cameron http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-342 Ian Cameron Fri, 03 Feb 2006 19:17:55 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-342 Agreed. Joe D definitely had to learn the ropes, but the article was written pretty soon into his tenure as president. As great a Piston as he was, I kinda felt like it was too soon to start chopping him down. He has made some changes along the way though--he's definitely present at a lot more road games and his relationships with coaches are better. But these changes could also be a biproduct of this now being "his team" rather than a collection of expiring contracts (and mediocre players)--a necessary evil (in the cap era) that he knew he'd have to deal with for a couple years. He had nothing vested in those Irvine-led teams and he wasn't expecting them to win, so I can understand why he was less involved. Agreed. Joe D definitely had to learn the ropes, but the article was written pretty soon into his tenure as president. As great a Piston as he was, I kinda felt like it was too soon to start chopping him down.

He has made some changes along the way though–he’s definitely present at a lot more road games and his relationships with coaches are better. But these changes could also be a biproduct of this now being “his team” rather than a collection of expiring contracts (and mediocre players)–a necessary evil (in the cap era) that he knew he’d have to deal with for a couple years. He had nothing vested in those Irvine-led teams and he wasn’t expecting them to win, so I can understand why he was less involved.

]]> By: julie http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-341 julie Fri, 03 Feb 2006 19:07:28 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-341 While I agree that in retropect the article is pretty funny, McCosky presented a pretty good case for questioning Joe D. at the time. I tend to think that Joe had to learn the ropes a little and maybe just needed his rookie year to figure out how to play the game. Clearly, he's no Mateen Cleaves. :) While I agree that in retropect the article is pretty funny, McCosky presented a pretty good case for questioning Joe D. at the time. I tend to think that Joe had to learn the ropes a little and maybe just needed his rookie year to figure out how to play the game. Clearly, he’s no Mateen Cleaves. :)

]]> By: Matt Watson http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-340 Matt Watson Fri, 03 Feb 2006 18:55:48 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-02-03/is-joe-dumars-fit-to-run-the-pistons/#comment-340 That is the funniest thing I've read in a long, long time! That is the funniest thing I’ve read in a long, long time!

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