Comments on: One step forward, two steps back?

By: Beating a dead horse (the backup point guard position) | Detroit Bad Boys

Beating a dead horse (the backup point guard position) | Detroit Bad Boys — Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:14:33 +0000

[…] But Joe seemed less than pannicked about a potential injury to Billups after the trade deadline last season. Speaking just after the Arroyo trade about the Pistons chances of winning the championship last year, Joe explained that without Chauncey, this team had no shot regardless of who his backup was (excerpted from the Detroit News — link is now dead). “The ultimate question becomes, what if something happens to Chauncey (Billups )?” Dumars said. “Well, who are we going to get if something does happen to Chauncey that’s going to lead us to a championship anyways? Don’t kill yourself with that. You’re up a creek without a paddle there anyways. You know what I mean?” […]

By: Chauncey Billups pulls his hamstring | Detroit Bad Boys

Chauncey Billups pulls his hamstring | Detroit Bad Boys — Fri, 08 Dec 2006 16:57:19 +0000

[…] You ready for the salt in the wound? The Pistons face Carlos Arroyo and the Magic tonight. Ugh. Here’s to hoping that Chauncey isn’t out very long. Our point guard depth hasn’t improved one iota since trading Arroyo 10 months ago (sorry, Flip), at which time Joe Dumars said: “The ultimate question becomes, what if something happens to Chauncey (Billups )?” Dumars said. “Well, who are we going to get if something does happen to Chauncey that’s going to lead us to a championship anyways? Don’t kill yourself with that. You’re up a creek without a paddle there anyways. You know what I mean? […]

By: Delk heats up Piston bench at Detroit Bad Boys

Delk heats up Piston bench at Detroit Bad Boys — Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:43:49 +0000

[…] I’ve bemoaned Flip’s rotation tinkering as of late, but this adjustment could not have come at a better time for the recently-beatable Pistons. In ten games since the All-Star break as the Pistons’ primary backup point (before Sunday’s DNP), Lindsey Hunter had contributed about 2 points and 1 assist in close to 10 minutes per night. During that period, he shot 8-26 from the field. Whether or not you were a fan of Carlos Arroyo, the dropoff in production from the position since his departure to the Magic is undeniable. […]

By: Matt Krzesinski

Matt Krzesinski — Wed, 22 Feb 2006 14:47:04 +0000

Ian - I agree to disagree, but really enjoy all of your takes! You make some great points and I just enjoy the chatter about the Pistons. I look forward to ranting some more in the near future.

Thanks

By: Ian Cameron

Ian Cameron — Fri, 17 Feb 2006 23:45:52 +0000

Matt–great points–I doubt there’s a right answer to this one. Allow me a rebuttal.

1.) Granted, the post title is a little over-dramatic, but my point is this: if there are no other moves on the horizon, then the deal was made solely for financial purposes (to avoid paying the luxury tax next season after resigning Ben), and it weakens the team in the short-term. Of course you have to balance the future with the present, but the top 7 players on this team are locked up for a couple years (provided Ben resigns). What are the odds that a rookie in 2007-08 cracks the rotation anyway? We’re projecting out to 2009 now.

2.) I know Carlos had his fair share of detractors, but he found the open man on offense and could push the ball in transition. Those are two offensive strengths that Lindsey does not have. And let’s be honest, if Goldwire had anywhere near the game of Arroyo, he’d be on someone’s roster rather than awaiting a ten day deal from some desparate team.

3.) How does this jeopardize the dynasty? Well, if the Spurs win, they’re the dynasty. The market for Arroyo and Darko would have been there after the season, and I think Arroyo gave us the better chance to win games down the stretch this year.

Thanks for your comments. It’s always good to have an intelligent contrary opinion for balance.

By: Matt Krzesinski

Matt Krzesinski — Fri, 17 Feb 2006 21:04:09 +0000

Two steps back? Not so fast! While I agree with you that there is major concern at the backup pg position on the roster and hopefull that Joe D gets some help, I do not believe these Detroit Pistons are any less of a team than they were two days prior. Did Carlos Arroyo really give you that much to feel good about? or have confidence in any more than anthony Goldwire or some other throw-in? or could a vet on a 10day do as much if not more than Carlos for ten times less money? Let’s be honest Carlos could not shoot a lick, had trouble finishing around the rim and “tried” to make the simple plays look spectacular without any success. Even if the move was soley done for financial reason why does it jeopardize the possible dynastic run which lies ahead? I understand maybe you would have been happier to have Joe D get someone else in return for Darko, but it is what it is and I actually feel that financially along w/the future 1st rndr this will help us to become a true Dynasty for years to come. The focus to win another title this year is first on Joe D’s mind, but you also have to stay one step ahead …not get tunnel vision and keep the Motown Motor runnin!!Mission accomplished….good luck Darko…so long Carlos…thank you Joe D