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	<title>Comments on: Hornets embarrass Pistons: &#8220;It&#8217;s early, but it&#8217;s late enough already.&#8221;</title>
	<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-16/hornets-embarrass-pistons-its-early-but-its-late-enough-already/</link>
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		<title>By: Pistons slide into Oklahoma City &#124; Detroit Bad Boys</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-16/hornets-embarrass-pistons-its-early-but-its-late-enough-already/#comment-15875</link>
		<dc:creator>Pistons slide into Oklahoma City &#124; Detroit Bad Boys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 05 Jan 2007 00:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] But as we all discovered the last time the Pistons faced the short-handed Hornets, absolutely nothing is guaranteed &#8212; a lesson fans and players alike should have learned during the team's current three-game slide. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] But as we all discovered the last time the Pistons faced the short-handed Hornets, absolutely nothing is guaranteed &#8212; a lesson fans and players alike should have learned during the team&#8217;s current three-game slide. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Belated gift: Pistons receive W over Nets &#124; Detroit Bad Boys</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-16/hornets-embarrass-pistons-its-early-but-its-late-enough-already/#comment-12290</link>
		<dc:creator>Belated gift: Pistons receive W over Nets &#124; Detroit Bad Boys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Dec 2006 17:17:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Whew&#8230; This could have been a loss earlier this season, if close defeats at home to the Hornets and Blazers are any indication. As it is, Chauncey Billups' ability to shake off a forgettable night and drain two huge free throws &#8212; and Rasheed Wallace being the beneficiary of a questionable no-call &#8212; allowed the Pistons to escape with the 92-91 victory over the Nets. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Whew&#8230; This could have been a loss earlier this season, if close defeats at home to the Hornets and Blazers are any indication. As it is, Chauncey Billups&#8217; ability to shake off a forgettable night and drain two huge free throws &#8212; and Rasheed Wallace being the beneficiary of a questionable no-call &#8212; allowed the Pistons to escape with the 92-91 victory over the Nets. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Howard</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-16/hornets-embarrass-pistons-its-early-but-its-late-enough-already/#comment-7271</link>
		<dc:creator>Howard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 03:09:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Maybe they need to really get in hole to get angry again. I get the feeling that if they continue to play poorly, the wheels could really come off. For some reason, it seems like losing and the technicals could get to Sheed's head. I'd hate to see what it would be like if things started going to hell in the standings and in the locker room. We've never seen up close what Sheed would be like on a struggling team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maybe they need to really get in hole to get angry again. I get the feeling that if they continue to play poorly, the wheels could really come off. For some reason, it seems like losing and the technicals could get to Sheed&#8217;s head. I&#8217;d hate to see what it would be like if things started going to hell in the standings and in the locker room. We&#8217;ve never seen up close what Sheed would be like on a struggling team.</p>
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		<title>By: LanierFan</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-16/hornets-embarrass-pistons-its-early-but-its-late-enough-already/#comment-7200</link>
		<dc:creator>LanierFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 20:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-16/hornets-embarrass-pistons-its-early-but-its-late-enough-already/#comment-7200</guid>
		<description>Larry Brown will never work for the Pistons as long as Bill Davidson is alive. 

As for the history of slow starts, rest assured that everybody here knows it ... just as they know that the last two years have brought diminishing returns, and that the current NBA climate is more hostile to Detroit than in 2004.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Larry Brown will never work for the Pistons as long as Bill Davidson is alive. </p>
<p>As for the history of slow starts, rest assured that everybody here knows it &#8230; just as they know that the last two years have brought diminishing returns, and that the current NBA climate is more hostile to Detroit than in 2004.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Noveck</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-16/hornets-embarrass-pistons-its-early-but-its-late-enough-already/#comment-7196</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Noveck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 18:37:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-16/hornets-embarrass-pistons-its-early-but-its-late-enough-already/#comment-7196</guid>
		<description>In '04-'05 we went 7-7 in the month of November.  We even went as far as 12-12 before we took a permanent place above .500.  We were .500 before the Brawl happened (that loss was cemented before the Brawl, making us 4-4).  We still took the Spurs to a Game 7 in the Finals.

The thing I find most surprising is that no one points out a fact like this, or the fact that the other three teams who were conference finalists last year, also have losing records currently.  I think it is just too early to pass judgment.  We sure are painful to watch, but we were painful then too and people forget quickly.  

Am  I being blindingly optimistic?  Maybe.  Do I blame all of it on Flip Saunders and none of it on the departure of a certain 'Fro-adorned center?  I sure do.  I also say that time will tell, but if time ends up telling a regrettable story for our men in Blue, I wouldn't hesitate to make some changes.  Has Joe Dumars already started talking to Rick Adelman ... or better yet, Pound for Pound?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In &#8216;04-&#8217;05 we went 7-7 in the month of November.  We even went as far as 12-12 before we took a permanent place above .500.  We were .500 before the Brawl happened (that loss was cemented before the Brawl, making us 4-4).  We still took the Spurs to a Game 7 in the Finals.</p>
<p>The thing I find most surprising is that no one points out a fact like this, or the fact that the other three teams who were conference finalists last year, also have losing records currently.  I think it is just too early to pass judgment.  We sure are painful to watch, but we were painful then too and people forget quickly.  </p>
<p>Am  I being blindingly optimistic?  Maybe.  Do I blame all of it on Flip Saunders and none of it on the departure of a certain &#8216;Fro-adorned center?  I sure do.  I also say that time will tell, but if time ends up telling a regrettable story for our men in Blue, I wouldn&#8217;t hesitate to make some changes.  Has Joe Dumars already started talking to Rick Adelman &#8230; or better yet, Pound for Pound?</p>
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		<title>By: PAPiston</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-16/hornets-embarrass-pistons-its-early-but-its-late-enough-already/#comment-7180</link>
		<dc:creator>PAPiston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What has happened to this team since Game 3 of the Cleveland series in the spring? After going up 2-0 in that series, it seems like they lost all sense of themselves and haven't found it yet this season.

What irritated me about last night's game with the Hornets is that after the Pistons finally grabbed a three-point lead in the fourth quarter, they proceded to just jack up 'threes' with wild abandon. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I believe they shot a three-ball on five or six consecutive possessions. Making matters worse, with the game tied and on the line in the final seconds, Sheed tosses up another three rather than get his ass down on the block to dominate inside.

I don't even want to talk about Hilton Freakin' Armstrong...he gets 17 stinking points in his first-ever NBA game, and he ends the game by tipping out his own free-throw miss because the Pistons simply forget the elementary task of boxing out the shooter!

I'm still not getting too upset with this ugly start to '06'-'07. No panic. Not yet. Winning all those regular-season games last year was exciting, but it was the team that struggled along at the .500 mark for the first quarter of the season that beat us and won the NBA title.

At this point, I'm just hoping the Pistons don't lay an egg next Friday when I see them play the Bobcats at the Palace. My wife and I will be at that game as part of our annual trip out from Pennsy to take in the Turkey Day Lions contest (now there's a real joke of a team) and a Pistons matchup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What has happened to this team since Game 3 of the Cleveland series in the spring? After going up 2-0 in that series, it seems like they lost all sense of themselves and haven&#8217;t found it yet this season.</p>
<p>What irritated me about last night&#8217;s game with the Hornets is that after the Pistons finally grabbed a three-point lead in the fourth quarter, they proceded to just jack up &#8216;threes&#8217; with wild abandon. Forgive me if I&#8217;m wrong, but I believe they shot a three-ball on five or six consecutive possessions. Making matters worse, with the game tied and on the line in the final seconds, Sheed tosses up another three rather than get his ass down on the block to dominate inside.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t even want to talk about Hilton Freakin&#8217; Armstrong&#8230;he gets 17 stinking points in his first-ever NBA game, and he ends the game by tipping out his own free-throw miss because the Pistons simply forget the elementary task of boxing out the shooter!</p>
<p>I&#8217;m still not getting too upset with this ugly start to &#8216;06&#8242;-&#8217;07. No panic. Not yet. Winning all those regular-season games last year was exciting, but it was the team that struggled along at the .500 mark for the first quarter of the season that beat us and won the NBA title.</p>
<p>At this point, I&#8217;m just hoping the Pistons don&#8217;t lay an egg next Friday when I see them play the Bobcats at the Palace. My wife and I will be at that game as part of our annual trip out from Pennsy to take in the Turkey Day Lions contest (now there&#8217;s a real joke of a team) and a Pistons matchup.</p>
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		<title>By: LanierFan</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-16/hornets-embarrass-pistons-its-early-but-its-late-enough-already/#comment-7179</link>
		<dc:creator>LanierFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 17:31:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed. We're headed for a midseason shake-up. Joe has to be thinking about trade combinations in advance right now, weighing what he'll do if the malaise continues. Holding on too long because he likes these guys would be a grave mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed. We&#8217;re headed for a midseason shake-up. Joe has to be thinking about trade combinations in advance right now, weighing what he&#8217;ll do if the malaise continues. Holding on too long because he likes these guys would be a grave mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-16/hornets-embarrass-pistons-its-early-but-its-late-enough-already/#comment-7175</link>
		<dc:creator>Kurt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 16:04:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is just getting more and more painful to watch a previously great team just playing like total crap when it has 4 of the same starting 5. Yeah, they're not as a good, but what is this crap they keep selling? I'm just glad I had to miss last night's game. 

They've got to realize they're unraveling their legacy and a lot of credit is going straight to Ben and Larry if they don't turn it around. 48 minutes. What a concept.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is just getting more and more painful to watch a previously great team just playing like total crap when it has 4 of the same starting 5. Yeah, they&#8217;re not as a good, but what is this crap they keep selling? I&#8217;m just glad I had to miss last night&#8217;s game. </p>
<p>They&#8217;ve got to realize they&#8217;re unraveling their legacy and a lot of credit is going straight to Ben and Larry if they don&#8217;t turn it around. 48 minutes. What a concept.</p>
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		<title>By: themicrowave</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-16/hornets-embarrass-pistons-its-early-but-its-late-enough-already/#comment-7164</link>
		<dc:creator>themicrowave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 12:19:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If you know basketball, you know the excuses being made in the press and by the players, Joe Dumars now famous "we can be .500 in 2 months" junk is a lotta BS.

There is losing, and then there is getting beat.  This team gets beat which means the problems are in their heads and chests.  This is not a very good team.  They lack energy, hustle and passion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If you know basketball, you know the excuses being made in the press and by the players, Joe Dumars now famous &#8220;we can be .500 in 2 months&#8221; junk is a lotta BS.</p>
<p>There is losing, and then there is getting beat.  This team gets beat which means the problems are in their heads and chests.  This is not a very good team.  They lack energy, hustle and passion.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky Cliffs</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-16/hornets-embarrass-pistons-its-early-but-its-late-enough-already/#comment-7140</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky Cliffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 08:15:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seems like the Pistons are still drunk off their 2004 trophy. Too often they forget they need to do more than show up to win. They can't intimidate anyone any longer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seems like the Pistons are still drunk off their 2004 trophy. Too often they forget they need to do more than show up to win. They can&#8217;t intimidate anyone any longer.</p>
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