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	<title>Comments on: Is Headband-gate over?</title>
	<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/</link>
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		<title>By: Ian Cameron</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8783</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:48:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8783</guid>
		<description>And to add to what Julie said above, how does it benefit the Bulls (in terms of winning or otherwise) to undermine the authority of the coach and GM by bowing to the tantrums of one star player?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And to add to what Julie said above, how does it benefit the Bulls (in terms of winning or otherwise) to undermine the authority of the coach and GM by bowing to the tantrums of one star player?</p>
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		<title>By: julie</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8777</link>
		<dc:creator>julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8777</guid>
		<description>well, here are my blows to this very sad horse:

I agree that the rule is ridiculous, but I think the thing that is annoying is that the rule was there well before Ben came to Chicago (and the decision to create the rule and why is obviously a very long discussion-- did the previous head-band wearers get benched for wearing it anyway?). For some reason Ben followed this rule for a while and then decided not to follow it anymore. It didn't appear that there was any build up to it other than losing games. And again, I do not agree with the rule, but you shouldn't change rules on the basis of a highly paid player not liking it, you should change it because it's stupid. Everyone always complains how star players should be treated the same when comes to fouls, etc., why shouldn't they be treated the same across the board? How does it build team morale to provide an exception for one player?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>well, here are my blows to this very sad horse:</p>
<p>I agree that the rule is ridiculous, but I think the thing that is annoying is that the rule was there well before Ben came to Chicago (and the decision to create the rule and why is obviously a very long discussion&#8211; did the previous head-band wearers get benched for wearing it anyway?). For some reason Ben followed this rule for a while and then decided not to follow it anymore. It didn&#8217;t appear that there was any build up to it other than losing games. And again, I do not agree with the rule, but you shouldn&#8217;t change rules on the basis of a highly paid player not liking it, you should change it because it&#8217;s stupid. Everyone always complains how star players should be treated the same when comes to fouls, etc., why shouldn&#8217;t they be treated the same across the board? How does it build team morale to provide an exception for one player?</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Watson</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8694</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 01:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8694</guid>
		<description>Re: dead horse -- I hear you. Four days between games is brutal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: dead horse &#8212; I hear you. Four days between games is brutal.</p>
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		<title>By: the_Allrights</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8692</link>
		<dc:creator>the_Allrights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 01:02:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8692</guid>
		<description>Alientating your 60 million dollar man isn't going to help win games.  This dead horse is fun to ride, huh?

LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alientating your 60 million dollar man isn&#8217;t going to help win games.  This dead horse is fun to ride, huh?</p>
<p>LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Watson</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8691</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:57:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8691</guid>
		<description>Of course, that doesn't mean the rule is still relevant. But it exists (probably for not much longer) nonetheless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Of course, that doesn&#8217;t mean the rule is still relevant. But it exists (probably for not much longer) nonetheless.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Watson</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8689</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:52:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8689</guid>
		<description>Winning provides context. If the 2002 Bulls were NBA champs, Eddy Curry's crooked headband might have been considered stylish. But the 2002 Bulls were one of the two worst teams in the NBA, and had been for the third year in a row. When a team is that bad for so long, I don't see anything wrong with a coach or GM instilling more discipline, no matter what form it takes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Winning provides context. If the 2002 Bulls were NBA champs, Eddy Curry&#8217;s crooked headband might have been considered stylish. But the 2002 Bulls were one of the two worst teams in the NBA, and had been for the third year in a row. When a team is that bad for so long, I don&#8217;t see anything wrong with a coach or GM instilling more discipline, no matter what form it takes.</p>
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		<title>By: the_Allrights</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8688</link>
		<dc:creator>the_Allrights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8688</guid>
		<description>Here's a link to an article just posted on FoxSports thatbreaks it down simple like-- I couldn't agree more.

http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6219708</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s a link to an article just posted on FoxSports thatbreaks it down simple like&#8211; I couldn&#8217;t agree more.</p>
<p><a href="http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6219708" rel="nofollow">http://msn.foxsports.com/nba/story/6219708</a></p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8687</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:31:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8687</guid>
		<description>Boney, I think your comments support Scoop's points (at least on the "too black too wrong" part). Why does wearing a headband crooked look "ignorant"? I will have to admit, I agree with you, I think it does too, but why do we think that? Seems to me that is probably because its something the black hip-hop culture does, and not something that has been traditionaly done. He looks like some sort of street thug when he wears it like that. But I think that because thats not how it was done in the little piece of suburbia Im familiar with, if I was from somewhere else my perception would likely be different.

People want to get offended when they hear the word racist, and think that is has to mean dawning the white hood and burning a cross, but there are much less extreme forms of racism. Like seeing a cultural symbol Im not familiar with and associating it with "ignorance". I never made any judgment on him being black, but when he acted in some manner that is more a part of black culture than it is mine, I judged him for it. Sounds like a racist act to me. That doesnt change the way I view the black people I go to school with, work with, and hang out with, I view and treat them the sameway I view and treat all people, but when I see some cultural symbol that Im not familiar with, I have an intial reaction that judges it. I dont think that equates me with a Klan member, but its still a racist act.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boney, I think your comments support Scoop&#8217;s points (at least on the &#8220;too black too wrong&#8221; part). Why does wearing a headband crooked look &#8220;ignorant&#8221;? I will have to admit, I agree with you, I think it does too, but why do we think that? Seems to me that is probably because its something the black hip-hop culture does, and not something that has been traditionaly done. He looks like some sort of street thug when he wears it like that. But I think that because thats not how it was done in the little piece of suburbia Im familiar with, if I was from somewhere else my perception would likely be different.</p>
<p>People want to get offended when they hear the word racist, and think that is has to mean dawning the white hood and burning a cross, but there are much less extreme forms of racism. Like seeing a cultural symbol Im not familiar with and associating it with &#8220;ignorance&#8221;. I never made any judgment on him being black, but when he acted in some manner that is more a part of black culture than it is mine, I judged him for it. Sounds like a racist act to me. That doesnt change the way I view the black people I go to school with, work with, and hang out with, I view and treat them the sameway I view and treat all people, but when I see some cultural symbol that Im not familiar with, I have an intial reaction that judges it. I dont think that equates me with a Klan member, but its still a racist act.</p>
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		<title>By: the_Allrights</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8684</link>
		<dc:creator>the_Allrights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Nov 2006 00:00:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8684</guid>
		<description>Matt and Ian-  You guys are solid, and I am pretty darn sure you're not racist AT ALL.   I happen to agree with Ben on this one, but I TOTALLY disagree with Scoop.  

I appreciate this blog, and I know you(s) put tons of work into it.  Sorry you're being insulted by trolls.

We can disagree and still be cool to each other.  Sheesh.

I understand where you fellas are coming from when you dog Ben about this issue. Although I disagree, you both get high marks from me for the way that you've handled yourselves.

Respect,
the Allrights</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Matt and Ian-  You guys are solid, and I am pretty darn sure you&#8217;re not racist AT ALL.   I happen to agree with Ben on this one, but I TOTALLY disagree with Scoop.  </p>
<p>I appreciate this blog, and I know you(s) put tons of work into it.  Sorry you&#8217;re being insulted by trolls.</p>
<p>We can disagree and still be cool to each other.  Sheesh.</p>
<p>I understand where you fellas are coming from when you dog Ben about this issue. Although I disagree, you both get high marks from me for the way that you&#8217;ve handled yourselves.</p>
<p>Respect,<br />
the Allrights</p>
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		<title>By: Boney</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8680</link>
		<dc:creator>Boney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 22:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8680</guid>
		<description>People like Scoop Jackson look for all the wrong in everything.  Take his remark "too black, too wrong" when referring to the way Eddie Robinson and Eddy Curry wore their headbands..  first off, Eddie Robinson wore his headband around his neck.  head...band...  around his neck.  Eddy Curry just looked flat out ignorant with his cocked headband as if he was promoting some sort of new style when everyone else was wearing them the way they should be worn.  Take Scoop's other statement.. his thought to have Ben say to the GM "Ok, I'll abide by the headband rule if you stop letting (or giving away, as the Bulls did during the home opener to welcome him) fans to ear those back-to-slavery Buckwheat wigs during games".  Talk about an ignorant thought to have... and to put that into a column for others to read is absolutely wrong.

How are they back to slavery wigs?  For years Ben has made himself the center of attention by blowing out his hair and celebrating the fact that others around him pay attention to him when it's blown out.  Why make it into a racial thing by referring to the toy wigs as buckwheat back to slavery wigs?

Another thing, it's the bulls fault for promoting Ben's arrival with posters and billboards showing him with a headband on...  but it's Ben's hardheadedness that admitted to knowing it was a rule and not asking if he could wear one.  Instead, he just wore it.  That's where Ben is wrong...  If my boss tells me I can't use a blue pen to write things with, no matter how dumb it sounds, and I use a blue pen I deserve to be punished...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People like Scoop Jackson look for all the wrong in everything.  Take his remark &#8220;too black, too wrong&#8221; when referring to the way Eddie Robinson and Eddy Curry wore their headbands..  first off, Eddie Robinson wore his headband around his neck.  head&#8230;band&#8230;  around his neck.  Eddy Curry just looked flat out ignorant with his cocked headband as if he was promoting some sort of new style when everyone else was wearing them the way they should be worn.  Take Scoop&#8217;s other statement.. his thought to have Ben say to the GM &#8220;Ok, I&#8217;ll abide by the headband rule if you stop letting (or giving away, as the Bulls did during the home opener to welcome him) fans to ear those back-to-slavery Buckwheat wigs during games&#8221;.  Talk about an ignorant thought to have&#8230; and to put that into a column for others to read is absolutely wrong.</p>
<p>How are they back to slavery wigs?  For years Ben has made himself the center of attention by blowing out his hair and celebrating the fact that others around him pay attention to him when it&#8217;s blown out.  Why make it into a racial thing by referring to the toy wigs as buckwheat back to slavery wigs?</p>
<p>Another thing, it&#8217;s the bulls fault for promoting Ben&#8217;s arrival with posters and billboards showing him with a headband on&#8230;  but it&#8217;s Ben&#8217;s hardheadedness that admitted to knowing it was a rule and not asking if he could wear one.  Instead, he just wore it.  That&#8217;s where Ben is wrong&#8230;  If my boss tells me I can&#8217;t use a blue pen to write things with, no matter how dumb it sounds, and I use a blue pen I deserve to be punished&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8674</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 19:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8674</guid>
		<description>I think the point you miss is that the rule is treating Ben like a child. Its insulting to suggest that he should have to go through some sort of formal team channels in order to wear a head band. Hes an adult and the headband rule treats him as something less than that. Though I havent heard Ben express it as such, it seems that by saying, "I just felt like wearing it", he was more protesting the childlike treatment than he was fulfiling a true desire to wear a headband.

By going through team channels and perhaps getting authorization to wear a headband, he wouldnt be addressing the true problem of the team exercisin parental control over him, he would just be covering up the symptom.

I'm much more inclined to blame Skiles/Paxson for putting the integrity of the team at risk, than I am Wallace for calling him out on it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point you miss is that the rule is treating Ben like a child. Its insulting to suggest that he should have to go through some sort of formal team channels in order to wear a head band. Hes an adult and the headband rule treats him as something less than that. Though I havent heard Ben express it as such, it seems that by saying, &#8220;I just felt like wearing it&#8221;, he was more protesting the childlike treatment than he was fulfiling a true desire to wear a headband.</p>
<p>By going through team channels and perhaps getting authorization to wear a headband, he wouldnt be addressing the true problem of the team exercisin parental control over him, he would just be covering up the symptom.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m much more inclined to blame Skiles/Paxson for putting the integrity of the team at risk, than I am Wallace for calling him out on it.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8670</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 18:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8670</guid>
		<description>scoop jackson is the bill o'rielly of sports reporting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>scoop jackson is the bill o&#8217;rielly of sports reporting.</p>
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		<title>By: Rocky Cliffs</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8640</link>
		<dc:creator>Rocky Cliffs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 07:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8640</guid>
		<description>I beg your pardon g, but I'm not ignorant. Just stupid. Please remember that from now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I beg your pardon g, but I&#8217;m not ignorant. Just stupid. Please remember that from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: julie</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8634</link>
		<dc:creator>julie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:52:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8634</guid>
		<description>so scoop jackson can write all about it, but apparently, he has the only correct view? and why exactly is he the only one allowed to have an opinion? grow up. stop insulting people just because you disagree with them, and present an argument in your own words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so scoop jackson can write all about it, but apparently, he has the only correct view? and why exactly is he the only one allowed to have an opinion? grow up. stop insulting people just because you disagree with them, and present an argument in your own words.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian Cameron</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8632</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian Cameron</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Nov 2006 04:35:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2006-11-28/is-headband-gate-over/#comment-8632</guid>
		<description>Sigh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sigh.</p>
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