Game 6: Something far short of motivational

Look, I won’t lie. I’m not exactly throwing in the towel, but the Pistons haven’t done much to convince me that they can go on the road tonight against an opponent in their head and come out with a scheduled game on Monday. At this point, I’d consider “dignity intact” a lofty goal.

Yeah, I know. Not exactly Matt’s aforementioned “was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor” speech. Not the “once more unto the breach, dear friends” that Jazz fans or Warriors fans probably summoned in the face of their team’s dispatching. It is just much more fun being a fan of a team on the ascent, rather than one trying to muster one last ounce of fight. But for those of you who still need the glimmer, I’ll put it to you like this.

I love that speech.

Anyways, as I mentioned, I’m not in a ra-ra mood. But there is one thought that drives my fandom tonight. It isn’t the years that this team has had together and the potential breakup that could result from an embarrassing loss to a mediocre Cavs squad. It isn’t the potential discord between certain key (and, more importantly, untradeable) members and free-agent-could-be Chauncey Billups. It isn’t the fact that Flip Saunders will once again be proven a failure as a postseason coach. (It’s an effing trap off the pick and roll… how could you lose two games because of that?)

The thought that drives me, I’ll pretend you asked? Well, just think of the consequences of a loss tonight. Think about who stands to benefit from a loss tonight. Friends, I’m worried that Detroit is slipping below Cleveland on the sports loser scale. Seriously… think about it. The Tigs have proven themselves incapable of standing for the D (0-5 thus far against the Indians this season). Our beloved Wolverines… I don’t even want to talk about it. The Lions? How hard is it to be better than the Browns? Seriously…

But the Pistons. We’ve always been able to hang our hat on the Pistons. The balance of power is shifting dear friends. There is an angry, title-starved people on the banks of the Erie sludge pond, and they are rising up against us. They want what we have… mainly our consistently-slightly-better-than-mediocrity, and they won’t rest until our Pistons are on the slag heap.

Well, I say no. I say “Edgar Rentaria” on you. I say “Earnest Byner” on you. I say “Marcus Ray“, “Craig Ehlo“, and “John Cooper” upon you.

I say, “this is what happens when you ___ a stranger in the ___!” [WARNING: NSFW]

So it isn’t the perfect speech. Hell, I don’t even know if it’s applicable. But I’m in a weird place right now, and you should be too. Let’s get this b*tch over with, one way or the other. Game on.

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268 Responses to “Game 6: Something far short of motivational”


  1. 1 Brian

    Why do people talk like the Pistons are a dynasty or something? They’re just a really good team, and that’s what they’ve been the past five years.

  2. 2 Ian Cameron

    Very well said. They have pulled one championship out of a large and long window. They are dynastic like the Atlanta Braves were.

    …but, they are the best the East has had to offer over an extended period of time. So a dynasty? No. But one more win in ‘05 and they would be.

  3. 3 Tim

    Two things come to mind.

    1. Is Cleveland 1 rebound better than they were last year? Because that’s all they needed to win last year’s Game 6. Unfortunately, I don’t like the answer I come up with.

    But, 2. How does Cleveland handle the EXPECTATION of winning, because everyone outside Detroit has already handed them the series, which really wasn’t as much the case last year. This year, it’s LeLeap. If they lose, it’s LeChoke.

    Either way, given the 2-OT and McDyess’ ejection (and how fresh he should be), I’ll echo previous comments. If McDyess doesn’t have a monster game, it’s Cavs vs. Spurs. Because the only switch my Pistons will be flipping then will be on their TV sets to watch LeBron in the finals.

  4. 4 Tom Allred

    Lebron James father is obviously Rick James. I see some Super freak in the kid. Who would the mother be? I was thinking Dionne Warwick, or Tina Turner…but I think even in the 80’s they were too old. Any ideas on a mother from that era? Maybe Pee Wee Herman? Any help?

  5. 5 Michael

    Just watched the DVD of 2004 Championship….. COME ON!!! Give me a chance to buy another!

  6. 6 Boney

    nice start to the game. If it takes Larry Hughes hitting 3 pointers for CLE to win, I’ll give them the 2007 championship trophy myself.

  7. 7 Matt Gibson

    Nazr? Nazr? Could it be more obvious that Flip will probably be coaching his last game tonight, as a piston

  8. 8 JackDutch

    NOW’S the time you experiment with lineup changes, flip? this is IT. this is when you ride your starters into the f-ing ground. what the hell are you saving them for?

  9. 9 Boney

    I don’t particularly think anyone looks good with a headband on, but Nazr looks especially stupid.

  10. 10 Michael

    I thought a Giant Flip Murray came into the game. And what the hell is with these friggin’ malfunctions?

  11. 11 Justin

    Hey what the heck happened? What’s with the delay?

  12. 12 Q Dog

    Nice arena Cleveland.

    It seems the first no-call that Webber didn’t get has him agitated. I hope it translates to points and some interior defense.

    I think we need to post Tay up to get him going. He can rest some other night!

    Let’s go Pistons!!

  13. 13 charles x

    Two things
    1) Nazr? Really? Let’s just send in Dupree in street clothes. Jesus Christ, Saunders, are you high?
    2) Can I nominate Cleveland for the faultiest arena in the league? I know it’s hard make numbers count down sequentially and NOT have shit rain down on the players during a game but come on.

  14. 14 Michael

    I REALLY hope this affects the Cavs and let’s us catch up.

  15. 15 Carey Anderson

    Call me crazy but I think they are trying to get james some rest….

  16. 16 neumy

    i really dont think these people know what theyre doing

  17. 17 Boney

    Donyell Marshall is quickly becoming #1 on the list of “guys that are balding that shouldn’t wear cornrows list”. I don’t know if he’ll ever be able to beat Jerry Rice, but he does look ridiculous.

  18. 18 Carey Anderson

    WTF!!!!! Mr Big Shot my ass!!!!!

  19. 19 Carey Anderson

    Boney You are so right about Marshall! The rule should be if you had a high top fade you should not have cornrows because you are way to old for them…….

  20. 20 Carey Anderson

    I can’t belive we may lose to these cats…. wow they suck… Whats wrong….

  21. 21 Matt C.

    Theres no doubt they get foul calls easier than us…

  22. 22 Michael

    I really am not a fan of Lindsey handling the ball at all. He can’t even throw an entry pass to the post [well, barely].

  23. 23 DJ Canoli

    that’s three missed calls in a row. nice.

  24. 24 Michael

    The calls are already becoming bullshit. One messed up charging and another messed up blocking… that’s a 5 point swing.

  25. 25 Matt C.

    Hehe Gibson charges us and still gets the foul call for him? WTF? I guess the refs are going to do whatever they can to give the game to the CAVS

  26. 26 Michael

    Sideshow Bob spends more time on his back then a ten dollar hooker.

  27. 27 Boney

    no matter what team Varejao ever plays for, I will never respect his game. He is 6′10-6′11, about maybe 250lbs, and he falls down if you fart in his general direction.

    like Chris Webber said in Game 5 Varejao got hacked to the floor “Rise up bitch”

  28. 28 Rob G

    With the season quite possibly coming to a close, I am getting extraordinarily drunk. I mean, out of my mind, drunk, stupid. Retarded. More drunk than last year when I saw them lose to the Heat in Game 6.

    And, with the season ending, I must ask, while I am drunk and thinking about it…

    Is Krista Jahnke hot? She has that little picture on her columns, but it’s hard to tell. Is she hot? Has anyone seen her?

  29. 29 Matt C.

    Tech foul for what? These CAVS must be giving the refs one hell of the blowjob

  30. 30 Michael

    Rob G: Never seen her. Find a bigger picture [for you and us].

    Gibson is limping. Good sign for us, that means the refs won’t feel compelled to call even more crappy fouls.

  31. 31 Rob G

    I mean… I really respect her. She’s an excellent writer, and she seems to have the gift of sports writing. She’s “got a bright future” as that jackass Kerr said about Varejoke. Ah. I should not think about him while I drunk.

  32. 32 Boney

    Rip got a tech for getting in Pavlovic’s face when Pavlovic didn’t agree with Webber shoving Varejao on a jump ball

  33. 33 Michael

    You are typing VERY well while drunk. No typos… impressive.

  34. 34 Rob G

    I’ve worked hard on that. I have a master’s degree in English, which involves… getting drunk and typing.

    Anyway, Krista’s probably married, anyway.

    But is she hot?

  35. 35 Boney

    Krista’s married to another writer for the Freep.

    She is pretty cute too

  36. 36 Boney

    I used to hate it when Chris Webber used to scowl, but that’s what we need tonight…

    that and maybe a Piston or 2 giving the crowd the middle finger

  37. 37 Boney

    just to show you how smart Varejao is:

    1. He sets picks when Detroit is playing Zone..

  38. 38 Matt C.

    Webber shooting jump shots = bad. Webber playing low post = good. Sheed needs more low post. Yeah I feel pretty good too Rob G. Hehe, more BS calls as I type…..

  39. 39 Michael

    Well, that just answered the age old question of “How can you foul someone that is falling ontop of you?”

    And I think Webber is playing PISSED. In the 1st quarter they showed a clip of him running back on defense after a show going to commercial yelling “I ain’t going home!”.

    I am REALLY getting pissed with these shit calls.

  40. 40 Matt C.

    More BS calls…

  41. 41 Rob G

    I’m getting pissed, too. Pissed. Ah, god.

    I am a teacher. I teach a college class, and our text on Monday is “Michael Jordan and the New Global Capitalism.”

    I will lecture about the Bad Boys on Monday. I want to lecture about the New Bad Boys, who held back another #23.

    I hope that Monday’s lecture goes well.

  42. 42 Boney

    Larry Hughes is going to try and pull a Willis Reed in the 2nd half, only he will continue to not make his jump shots and still be wearing the pantyhose on his arm

  43. 43 Carey Anderson

    The Pistons SUCK!!!!!! Go Memphis Grizzlies!!!!

  44. 44 Michael

    I’ll take a tie at half time. Come on… let’s win this 3rd quarter.

  45. 45 Carey Anderson

    Sorry guys my wife posted that… I love our team… Oh she is from memphis..

  46. 46 Fadel

    Blaay!

  47. 47 Matt C.

    I don’t usually blame games on calls, but this whole series has been B.S. They charge to the basket and if we touch them in any way its a foul. If we charge yo the basket we have to get hacked good or its an offensive foul. Lebron can run full blast at the basket and get a foul call no matter what way too often. Gibson gets fouled if you sneeze with 5 feet of him. Maybe its just been the refs that frustrated the pistons the whole time? Good chance.

  48. 48 Other Matt

    Put me down for thinking this officiating is pretty bad. I especially loved the sequence where they changed their mind instead of calling a charge on Gibson, they called the block on Dyess. Then the next play was Gibson definitely getting in Tay’s way on that layup and they didn’t call it. It was so egregious that even Steve Kerr was saying “wow, Prince really should be at the foul line. If they’re going to call that block on McDyess, they’ve got to call it on the other end.” Okay, I need to stop now, I’m getting angry.

  49. 49 Boney

    obviously your wife has never watched the Memphis Grizzlies play… well, it’s hard to watch Memphis unless you have NBA Season Pass… either that, or you tune in to the NBA Draft Lottery every offseason.

  50. 50 Carey Anderson

    You have to KO a champ. The Cavs have to KO us. If not we will win….

  51. 51 Rob G

    Man, everybody got a wife.

  52. 52 Rob G

    Maybe that;s why Krista’s last name is Jahnke. HEr maiden name’s propably “Sexpot.”

  53. 53 Michael

    Twice as many foul shots as us….

  54. 54 JackDutch

    all starters are going to clear 40 minutes by a mile. gotta go out guns blazing. gotta give rob g. some material for his hungover monday morning lecture.

  55. 55 Michael

    HOLY HELL!!!! CHARGES!!!! FOR US!!!!!

  56. 56 Boney

    this next comment is NSFW

    Daniel Gibson is a piece of shit.

  57. 57 Matt C.

    Another shady foul for Gibson. This is getting very annoying.

  58. 58 Rob G

    Why don’t they show a replay of those BS calls? Why? Instead, it’s “Dodge in the City.” Cleveland sucks! You can’t buy a pair of shoes in that city! I know from personal experience!

  59. 59 Rob G

    I don’t want no Dodge commercial! I want footage of referee incompetence!

  60. 60 Michael

    Never have I hated a Boobie more in my life.

  61. 61 Boney

    the forearm distributor is in the game… time to throw some ‘bows

  62. 62 Boney

    damn, super small lineup in now

  63. 63 Michael

    Push in the back by Sideshow Bob on that rebound…….

  64. 64 Boney

    31 to 16 free throws?

  65. 65 DJ Canoli

    yup, total lumbar shove.

  66. 66 Rob G

    I want my boys to be all elbows and teeth. Fuck it. Kill ‘em all, let David Stern sort ‘em out.

  67. 67 Boney

    Boobie will pick up stupid fouls, time to post him up

  68. 68 Boney

    #1 stupid foul by Gibson: trying to undercut McDyess.

    Told you

  69. 69 Matt C.

    boobie again….

  70. 70 JackDutch

    enough from f-ing mcdyess. shit his useless ass down.

  71. 71 Michael

    BAH HAHAHAHAHA! Nice shot jackass.

  72. 72 JackDutch

    and sit it down as well

  73. 73 JackDutch

    right next to lindsey hunter.

  74. 74 Boney

    Detroit is taking this game.

  75. 75 Michael

    Why was Flip Murray the one that took the last shot?

  76. 76 Boney

    JackDutch

    It’s hard to put others back in the game when they’ve been on the wrong side of shitty calls all night.

  77. 77 Michael

    Jack:

    I assume you posted that before he made that three, haha. But yes, sit him down because now he’ll take more of them.

  78. 78 Matt C.

    because he’s selfish

  79. 79 Lauren

    Does anyone else hate Marv Albert as much as I do?

  80. 80 Michael

    WOO! TIGERS WIN! LET’S GO 2-2 TONIGHT!

  81. 81 Michael

    GET HUNTER OUT!!!!!!

  82. 82 Mr Monday

    alright. here we go. 4th quarter.

  83. 83 Matt C.

    Why is Flip and Hunter out at the same time….. Flip Saunders, sorry but your retarded. This is 4th qurter from elimination. Your fucking retarded.

  84. 84 Michael

    Screw rest…. put them in the goddamn game. Stop these friggin’ kick outs to Gibson.

  85. 85 Matt C.

    Yes, switch to the worse possible lineup at the beginning of the last quarter when losing this game means we are out of the series. Please fire Saunders.

  86. 86 Mr Monday

    jesus. we’re going to be beat by a guy named boobie.

  87. 87 Cameron

    Daniel Gibson is just ridiculous. Why why why???

  88. 88 Matt C.

    Do we really need the starters to rest when we are 12 minutes from getting eliminated.

  89. 89 Michael

    THEY ARE STILL IN THE MOTHERFUCKING GAME!!!!!

  90. 90 Boney

    I know Lindsey Hunter signed a 2 year deal, but his contract needs to be bought out

  91. 91 Mr Monday

    wow. great time to put in your starting backcourt flip. down by 9. with the momentum swing full in clevelands way. great work.

    and another trey by boobie.

  92. 92 Matt C.

    May as well just lose this game to get rid of Saunders. Its worth it.

  93. 93 Michael

    HOW WAS THAT A PUSH!

  94. 94 DJ Canoli

    There was no push on that foul. Or that one.

  95. 95 Matt C.

    With Saunders as a coach plus all these BS calls, theres no way to win.

  96. 96 Mr Monday

    i can feel it slipping away, guys. these calls are just sickening, and we can’t finish.

  97. 97 Boney

    if Detroit is going to go down, Rasheed should put a fist in Varejao’s face

  98. 98 Mr Monday

    why hasn’t maxiell played? why did we see nazr?

    aaaaaaand the technical.

    aaaaaand the ejection.

    aaaaaaand it’s over.

  99. 99 Michael

    It’s over….. Rasheed almost punched that ref.

  100. 100 Q Dog

    Somebody needs to tell Sheed it sometimes ISN’T better to burn out, than fade away. Words can’t describe my distaste for this level of play. This isn’t on Saunders, it is squarely on the people NOT hustling, NOT making shots and NOT playing good defense.

  101. 101 DJ Canoli

    when can we sic dale on sideshow?

  102. 102 Q Dog

    I never thought I would say I hate Boobie.

  103. 103 Mr Monday

    Ok. that was funny Steven Kerr. “boobie trap”

  104. 104 Boney

    Dale Davis isn’t going out without a fight

  105. 105 Matt C.

    Hehe, the announcers are saying the Cavs have such poise….. He can we have poise if we get a foul call no matter what we do? I thought there was supposed to be tougher calls in the conference finals, let alone the playoffs. I hear a whistle every 10 seconds, how is that? There’s more fouls than any regular season game, this retarded. As long as Joe D. fires Saunders after losing I’ll be ok.

  106. 106 Michael

    To watch the rest of the game or not? I’m waiting for a homicide.

  107. 107 Rob G

    I vow tonight will be a legendary drunk. I will come inches away from a divorce. I will rage deep into the night. I will drink to forget but have this night scarred upon my brain.

    I thank DBB for a wonderful season of blogging. Thank you, Matt and Ian. They deserve much love.

  108. 108 Mr Monday

    So the real question is. After tonight, do you:

    1) Root for the Spurs
    2) Root for the Cavs
    3) I’m not going to watch the finals

  109. 109 Other Matt

    We have to blow this team up, don’t we? I don’t see how we can bring the same cast back next year. I really don’t. I’m not saying that I don’t love my team, but seriously. Flip has to go, it’s time to start this over with Rip and Tay as the building blocks.

  110. 110 Michael

    I choose Spurs no question. But then again… it’ll probably turn out to be like last year. BS calls all the way.

  111. 111 Cameron

    Well, it’s been a good 5 year run. They were a good team for a good period of time…now the long decline has officially begun.

    Good bye Chauncey. Thanks for 2004 and 2005.

  112. 112 Michael

    Atleast the majority of my friends are Philly fans…….

  113. 113 Matt C.

    It is Saunders fault for not taking Sheed out when he gets frustrated since we all know that it hasn’t done any good for him this series. He has been bad for us the last few games in the 4th. Put max or carlos in who aren’t frustrated and you would get more energy on both ends from them.

  114. 114 Boney

    they’ve chosen to die like individuals

    bring back the teal uniforms

  115. 115 Michael

    Wait…. yes. I see something hanging out of all the Cavaliers shorts… Yes, that what I think it is. The refs are hanging on thier nuts.

  116. 116 JackDutch

    hate both teams. can’t imagine spurs not winning it in 5. but i didn’t imagine this either, so…..

  117. 117 Rob G

    other matt: I agree - Tay and Rip are the faces (and mask?) of the future. We need a new team built around a long-armed brand of stingy D.

    And I need some more beer.

  118. 118 Boney

    LeBron’s played pretty good defense tonight… only 1 foul

  119. 119 MrVociferous

    Before Sheed got tossed I was hoping for a “you wanna see a foul, THAT’s a foul!” type moment. It can still happen…

    As he was getting tossed I really wanted him to throw his headband at the ref. Why not? Take the fine… these guys make enough. I mean really, what a $10,000 or $20,000 fine to these guys?

    I REALLY hate the NBA sometimes.

    It’s obvious the priorities in the offseason are get someone that can flop (Spurs and Cavs in the finals, the two biggest flopping teams in the NBA) and someone that can coach at least at an 8th grade girls level.

  120. 120 Michael

    Atleast we got 2 1st rounders. Who we looking at? Let’s sign Vince Carter, haha.

  121. 121 Q Dog

    My season is over after tonight. I won’t watch the finals, but I’m thinking the “All Flop Finals” is an appropriate name. Varajao vs. Ginobeli, who will out-flop the other? Spurs in 6.

    Thanks for the great blogging this year. See y’all in November or sometime this summer when Dumars starts doing his thing.

    Q Dog

  122. 122 Matt C.

    Too late though. It is a lot on the coach. I bet even with all Lebrons BS calls, spurs will still dominate them like we never did. Flip never had any good strategy planned for the Cavs.

    I’m almost relieved to lose. I want changes, I’m tired of this we have to be down to care attitude. A stricter coach wouldn’t let the whole team feel that they are not even worried about the Eastern Conference Finals. We need a whole new gameplan.

  123. 123 JackDutch

    empty the bench already, saunders. and empty your office while you’re at it.

  124. 124 Mr Monday

    I’m sorry Antonio. I’m really sorry.

  125. 125 Ian Cameron

    Party’s over, folks. I’d rather go through the growing pains with Max, Amir, Delfino, and Acie Law getting big minutes than preserve the status quo. Sad.

  126. 126 Michael

    Why couldn’t we get Billy Donovan?

  127. 127 anonymosity

    How did Gibson not play much this year? He is better than anyone on the Pistons!

  128. 128 Rob G

    Yeah, but who’s the new coach? Carlisle? Brown? Who’s free right now?

  129. 129 Rob G

    Yeah. The saddest part is Dice and Webb. C’mon. Who wants to lose when they’re on the team?

  130. 130 Matt C.

    I’m free.

  131. 131 Other Matt

    Acie Law. Please.

  132. 132 Rob G

    I have a feeling I will be eating my own vomit tomorrow.

  133. 133 Mr Monday

    God. Time to eat some white castle to make the pain go away.

  134. 134 Rob G

    I don’t know if this is an upset. I do know that I am upset.

  135. 135 DJ Canoli

    i’m disappointed, dale. queria o sangre brasileiro…

    what’s the over/under on the technical-for-flopping rule next year?

  136. 136 Other Matt

    Did you ever think you’d be pining for Rick Carlisle to come back? I mean, seriously? That’s how absolutely pathetic Flip has been in this series. When Mike Brown is outcoaching you, it’s time to find a new profession. Can you imagine how scary Cleveland would be with a competent front office/coaching staff?

  137. 137 Boney

    I feel bad for McDyess, but not anyone else.

    I really liked Webber when he was at Michigan, but I don’t feel bad for him. He kinda glommed(sp?) on with the whole “Karl-Malone-I-gotta-join-a-contender-so-I-can-win-my-ring” thing.

    I think Bill Russell could dominate the Cavs’ front line better than Detroit did tonight.

  138. 138 Rob G

    Credit to the Cavs. They play D. And they get calls. Maybe that’s all we had all these years. I don’t even know anymore.

  139. 139 Michael

    What about Javaris Crittenton?

  140. 140 DJ Canoli

    sangue, puto.

  141. 141 Ian Cameron

    I’m texting with Matt right now (he’s at a wedding, lucky guy). Here’s your preview for tomorrow’s post-mortem: “I want Sheed’s head on a platter.”

    He’s not a happy guy.

  142. 142 Rob G

    DJ - It’s a bit rude to correct people’s Spanish. Especially when they hardly know written English.

  143. 143 Michael

    Time to watch some violent Hannibal Rising.

  144. 144 Rob G

    Time to watch some porn. Detroit got f’ed. Now I want to see some big-tittied blondes get it.

  145. 145 Boney

    Scot Pollard looks uncomfortable

  146. 146 Other Matt

    Oh, don’t get me wrong. Cleveland did an excellent job. Give credit where it’s due. Gibson was huge. Hughes hit some shots early. Gooden wasn’t awful. They definitely won this series. If I were a Bulls fan, I’d be terrified that their “young core” will never get a chance. That’s how much the Cavs scare me.

    And I don’t know much about Crittenton. I watched a lot of Acie Law. He seems a little Billups-esque to me. Hits big shots. Plays good D. Is fearless. I like him a lot. Whether or not he lasts ’till 15 is the big question. Unless we work some kind of sign-and-trade out with Billups, where we might be able to acquire another pick or something.

  147. 147 Mr Monday

    Rob G: just make sure the porno doesn’t have any, wait for it, wait for it, wait for it, BOOBIES.

  148. 148 DJ Canoli

    yo, i was actually correcting myself, and it’s portuguese, amigo. mas ‘ta tudo bem - we’re all entering the alex acker era together!

  149. 149 Boney

    Personally, I think a good coach for Detroit woulda been Jim O’Brien

  150. 150 JackDutch

    saw some yahoo article touting the pistons interest in rodney stuckey at 15. but i’d be ok with crittendon as well.

  151. 151 JackDutch

    gotta get a van gundy. 2 van gundys on the market. gotta get one. maybe both.

  152. 152 Boney

    haha Stan Van Gundy coming back and getting revenge against Miami… I love it

  153. 153 Matt C.

    Well since we didn’t even come close to dominating one game this series, I don’t think it was just their defense or the BS calls. Yes, that was part of it, but as soon as we got a up a few points we would get sloppy. We wold only have focus a few minutes at a time, best case.

    A problem is they made adjustments better than us the whole series. Thats on the coach. Most problems point to coaching.

  154. 154 Mr Monday

    so. do we resign chauncey?

  155. 155 Other Matt

    I was actually thinking about Stan Van Gundy. I like what he did with the Heat in DWade’s first 2 seasons. I don’t always buy the theory that they would’ve beat us in the 05 East Finals had Wade not been hurt. But damn were they a good challenge. They had no buisness being any good in 04, but I think made the second round.

  156. 156 Michael

    Van Gundy would be nice. I want the Ron Jeremy version personally. Come back and have him vow revenge.

    And I do think that Acie Law would be there. Mock draft site I go has him dropping to Miami (!!) at thier pick. Anyone have any other good draft sites? I use http://www.nbadraft.net.

  157. 157 JackDutch

    i really liked jim o’brien in philly. he was the guy who pushed for iguodola in that draft. he just got dicked over by webber. i’d rather have o’brien over webber any day of the week.

  158. 158 Rocky Cliffs

    I watched until the fourth quarter. Glad I missed the end of it. It’ll be interesting to see how we do next year with Chauncey Billups, Antonio McDyess, and Chris Webber. Really curious as to how we’ll even make the playoffs.

    Flip Saunders needs to go and we need a new coach pronto. I say bring back Carlisle or however you spell his damn name. He’s a good coach in need of a job.

    I’m upset that the Cavs are now forcing me to root for the Spurs. I hope they beat James down every time he tries a power dunk.

    I just don’t even know what to say anymore.

    I think all Pistons fans are masochistic. Chalk me up as one of them.

    Scratch what I said earlier about Carlisle. Here’s who the real head coach should be: Bill Laimbeer. Let’s bring back defense, shall we?

  159. 159 JackDutch

    draftexpress.com is decent. though in their mock they have durant going #1 to portland, so i don’t know how legit their info is.

  160. 160 Rob G

    I’ll take that deli cook at coach. Stan Van G would work. Mustachioed sideline rage, and pretty decent adjustments. At least he would know how to work a time out. I have had faith in Flip like a Catholic has in Mother Mary. But it’s over now, baby, and I’m sinnin’ with an eye to the confessional booth.

  161. 161 Lauren

    I’m with you, Rocky Cliffs. Laimbeer would be awesome.

  162. 162 Garrett

    Man, look at the Cavs roster:

    Shannon Brown
    Daniel Gibson
    Drew Gooden
    Larry Hughes
    Zydrunas Ilgauskas
    LeBron James
    Damon Jones
    Dwayne Jones
    Donyell Marshall
    Ira Newble
    Aleksandar Pavlovic
    Scot Pollard
    Eric Snow
    Anderson Varejao
    David Wesley

    I don’t see them striking fear in the heart of any opponents, so why couldn’t the Pistons beat them? Why did Cleveland win FOUR STRAIGHT? What the hell happened?

  163. 163 Rob G

    At least Lamb would teach our boys how to hack properly. We needs to knock the studs down.

  164. 164 DJ Canoli

    Dwayne, spelled the right way? That’s pretty frightening…

  165. 165 Matt C.

    Bill Laimbeer would be sweet. At least he won 2 WNBA championships for Detroit. What about Flip “nervous” Saunders, what has won? I don’t even want to watch next season if he’s coach.

  166. 166 Rob G

    All I know is: Dumars better NEVER make a move for Varejao. Not even as a role player. Not even as trade bait. I don’t want that man even associated with our organization. Unless the NBA morphs into the NFA - the National Flopping Association.

  167. 167 Rob G

    Man. We have to wait til November?

  168. 168 Mr Monday

    yeah. time to hire billy.

  169. 169 Matt Gibson

    Why is noone mentioning terry porter as maybe our new head coach? Joe got to talk with the man all year and he knows what he can do, so I think there’s a good possibility that he’ll be our head coach. Then maybe bring in Laimbeer as our new assistant coach.

    Time to watch Delfino, Tayshaun, and Chauncey in the world championships.

  170. 170 Other Matt

    I like HoopsHype. They have Law going to Atlanta at 11, which I think is about right. They do have the most horrible GM this side of McHale (or Ainge, an extension for Doc, really?), so we have that going for us. The biggest threats to take Law are the Clips and the Hawks. Both of those front offices are incompetent. If Law is gone, we have to take Crittenton, I think. The last thing we need is another athletic and offensively challenged big man.

    I wouldn’t be opposed to Laimbeer as coach.

  171. 171 Michael

    Ehhh now that I think about it, I don’t think Acie will fall. Bucks need a PG.

  172. 172 Eric

    Rocky Cliffs dont be a hater. If you guys won I would be rooting for you. You may dislike the fact that the Cavs won, but i am also tired of people who think they know basketball always saying how the Eastern conference is inferior to the West.

    How they say if Cleveland was in the West they wouldnt even make the playoffs.

    Enuff is enuff!! Regardless how you feel the best team won this series. The Cavs should have won one of the first two games in Detroit.

    You guys had your run and you should be very very very proud of what you accomplished the last 5 years. Now it is time to pass the torch you cannot always be on top!

    The younger, more athletic and better defensive team won this series. I know it is hard to accept or tip your hat too.

    I do not want to be a punk and rub it in on you guys either. I have the most high respect for your organization, your fans, and your players but the time has come to let us take a shot.

    Rebuild, get a few younger players, and by all means get a Ben Wallace type player for defense. Webber is not the answer, and sometimes a player that you grew up with and has roots in your town does not mean he will translate into greatness.

    Good luck next year it was a pleasure to have you all allow me to post here. It was even a bigger pleasure to not have any of you be disrespectful or call names. You are true fans and you will one day get your just deserts!!

  173. 173 Lauren

    I initially said I wasn’t going to watch the finals, but I think I will just to see the Spurs kick the Cavs ass.

  174. 174 Rob G

    I’ll take Porter as HC. i’ll take another highlight reel of Maxiell dunks, too. Cuz I’m sick of this LeNike shite.

  175. 175 Rob G

    Eric - Dude. I’m going to root for the Cavs. I’m still an Easterner. and Texas is another country to me. It produced Bush, after all.

  176. 176 Mr Monday

    a few good things though.

    at least we won’t have to watching another god damn HouseOfPayneTheCloserHeartlandSavingGrace commercial.

  177. 177 Lauren

    Can you blame a whole state for that?

  178. 178 Rob G

    You know what’s the best part of solving a crime? It’s when the BIGGEST movie star appears as a guest show on this hilarious new comedy/gritty cop show!

  179. 179 Rob G

    Two ill begotten wars? Yeah, I’ll blame a state!

  180. 180 Michael

    Anyone think the black guy from the closer sounds like Brad Pitt?

  181. 181 Other Matt

    Eric, thanks for taking the high road (sort of). I do appreciate you not rubbing it in, becuase I think I speak for everyone when I say that I’m sick to my stomach over this. To only get one title out of this team is so disappointing. I know that sounds ridiculous to a Cleveland fan who hasn’t won diddly. But you’ll get yours (maybe not this year, but eventually) and you know that.

    I am proud that this isn’t a blog-a-bull type meltdown, though. It’s getting close, but it’s not there yet.

  182. 182 Rob G

    The last prez my state produced was some clutzy rich boy who could only govern once some bizarre troll left office. Texas has cursed us with two losers.

  183. 183 Other Matt

    Okay Rob, let’s reel it in a bit. Let’s not get into politics. We’re all Pistons fans, and that’s what matters right now. This could get ugly if we keep going there.

  184. 184 Lauren

    Don&