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	<title>Comments on: Thursday Afternoon&#8217;s Layup Drill</title>
	<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/</link>
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		<title>By: Scott</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60379</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 18:46:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>second steve black in free agency (mattgibson) and jared dudley at pick #27 (lanierfan)</description>
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		<title>By: JackDutch</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60366</link>
		<dc:creator>JackDutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:45:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60366</guid>
		<description>they just better be prepped for someone falling out of the lottery. because there's a good chance that someone like julian wright could be there. i don't know why they've waited so long on starting this workout process. even if they did expect to be playing in the finals. were daryl watkins and zabian dowdell that busy? go steal somebody already!

btw, what's to keep scott perry from focusing on players in this draft for the sonics that he just spent the past few months focusing in on for the pistons? is there some sort of clause? gentlemen's agreement?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>they just better be prepped for someone falling out of the lottery. because there&#8217;s a good chance that someone like julian wright could be there. i don&#8217;t know why they&#8217;ve waited so long on starting this workout process. even if they did expect to be playing in the finals. were daryl watkins and zabian dowdell that busy? go steal somebody already!</p>
<p>btw, what&#8217;s to keep scott perry from focusing on players in this draft for the sonics that he just spent the past few months focusing in on for the pistons? is there some sort of clause? gentlemen&#8217;s agreement?</p>
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		<title>By: Cassie</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60363</link>
		<dc:creator>Cassie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60363</guid>
		<description>There are a few things that Dumars has stressed, athleticism, NBA ready and Hunger. So everyone should keep those in mind when considering who the Pistons will draft.  

At 15, i think its going to come down to Stuckey or Critt (I Dont beleive Crit will go to the Clipps because he is years away from contributing) with Detroit ultimately choosing Stuckey because he is the more NBA ready of the two. Stuckey is a poor mans Dwayne Wade and a rich mans Flip Murray, so IMO- He is a Randy Foye, or a taller Ben Gordan. 

At 27, Detroit needs to go SF. Im thinking Byars or Marcus Williams. I also like Dudley too, but something Dumars has stressed is athleticism which Duldey does not have. Byars is a highly athletic lock down defender who does whatever it takes to win. Marcus Williams is a top 20 talent with slight charactor issues (laziness). Dumars wants somebody who is hungry which makes me think that he might shy away from Williams, but he could gamble at 27. 

At 57, another foreign bigman to gamble on like Stanko Barac.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are a few things that Dumars has stressed, athleticism, NBA ready and Hunger. So everyone should keep those in mind when considering who the Pistons will draft.  </p>
<p>At 15, i think its going to come down to Stuckey or Critt (I Dont beleive Crit will go to the Clipps because he is years away from contributing) with Detroit ultimately choosing Stuckey because he is the more NBA ready of the two. Stuckey is a poor mans Dwayne Wade and a rich mans Flip Murray, so IMO- He is a Randy Foye, or a taller Ben Gordan. </p>
<p>At 27, Detroit needs to go SF. Im thinking Byars or Marcus Williams. I also like Dudley too, but something Dumars has stressed is athleticism which Duldey does not have. Byars is a highly athletic lock down defender who does whatever it takes to win. Marcus Williams is a top 20 talent with slight charactor issues (laziness). Dumars wants somebody who is hungry which makes me think that he might shy away from Williams, but he could gamble at 27. </p>
<p>At 57, another foreign bigman to gamble on like Stanko Barac.</p>
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		<title>By: Fel</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60352</link>
		<dc:creator>Fel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:13:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60352</guid>
		<description>I pretty much agree with MattG, except I'd take Gasol off that list.

Splitter would be good at 27 and be able to start right away but it sounds like he has some buy-out issues with his contract.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I pretty much agree with MattG, except I&#8217;d take Gasol off that list.</p>
<p>Splitter would be good at 27 and be able to start right away but it sounds like he has some buy-out issues with his contract.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gibson</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60346</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60346</guid>
		<description>Fasenko is projected to be there by the 27th pick. And I hope we don't get Stuckey. He sounds like he can really score but he's a pg/sg. I believe we need a true pg and a guy that can play sf. We don't need Stuckey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fasenko is projected to be there by the 27th pick. And I hope we don&#8217;t get Stuckey. He sounds like he can really score but he&#8217;s a pg/sg. I believe we need a true pg and a guy that can play sf. We don&#8217;t need Stuckey.</p>
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		<title>By: PistonsGirl4Life</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60339</link>
		<dc:creator>PistonsGirl4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:46:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60339</guid>
		<description>Sorry, I guess there's always the option of resigning Chris Webber, I forgot about that.  Probably has something to do with trying to mentally block out the entire "Don't worry we don't need Ben, Chris Webber will be available by mid season" period of the Franchise. :)

Seriously though, nobody wants to see Chris Webber trying to guard Igauskas again... I know I don't.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, I guess there&#8217;s always the option of resigning Chris Webber, I forgot about that.  Probably has something to do with trying to mentally block out the entire &#8220;Don&#8217;t worry we don&#8217;t need Ben, Chris Webber will be available by mid season&#8221; period of the Franchise. <img src='http://www.detroitbadboys.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously though, nobody wants to see Chris Webber trying to guard Igauskas again&#8230; I know I don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: PistonsGirl4Life</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60337</link>
		<dc:creator>PistonsGirl4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60337</guid>
		<description>I'm okay with that scenario but it still sounds to me like we're relying ALOT on getting really lucky with the 27th pick to man the 5.  I mean think about it, assuming everything we *need* to be true is... Acker can roll, Chauncey is back, Amir is ready and the Baby Muncher is ready for a bigger role.  Downside?  Mohammed is still a complete bum, Dyees doesn't play the 5 well even in limited time, Maxiel is too short, Scouts indicate Amir doesn't have the right type of game for it and our best 5 on the roster ATM doesn't LIKE playing the 5 even though if he'd just start there we'd be infinately better.  I mean I'm all for it if it works out, but it looks like we need a starting 5 who can roll about 22-28 mins minimum and it's not exactly COMMON to find those at 27.  As a side note, most of the scouting reports I've heard on Marc Gasol say he's fat, slow footed and likely a dud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m okay with that scenario but it still sounds to me like we&#8217;re relying ALOT on getting really lucky with the 27th pick to man the 5.  I mean think about it, assuming everything we *need* to be true is&#8230; Acker can roll, Chauncey is back, Amir is ready and the Baby Muncher is ready for a bigger role.  Downside?  Mohammed is still a complete bum, Dyees doesn&#8217;t play the 5 well even in limited time, Maxiel is too short, Scouts indicate Amir doesn&#8217;t have the right type of game for it and our best 5 on the roster ATM doesn&#8217;t LIKE playing the 5 even though if he&#8217;d just start there we&#8217;d be infinately better.  I mean I&#8217;m all for it if it works out, but it looks like we need a starting 5 who can roll about 22-28 mins minimum and it&#8217;s not exactly COMMON to find those at 27.  As a side note, most of the scouting reports I&#8217;ve heard on Marc Gasol say he&#8217;s fat, slow footed and likely a dud.</p>
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		<title>By: Quick Darshan</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60311</link>
		<dc:creator>Quick Darshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 09:19:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60311</guid>
		<description>I think the Hornets will take Nick Young, but I would love to have him.  A potential dunk champion with a strong mid-range game.  Him and Rip running around screens together will give defenses fits.

I bet we end up with Stuckey and either Fesenko or Dudley.  And some obscure Euro in the second round.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Hornets will take Nick Young, but I would love to have him.  A potential dunk champion with a strong mid-range game.  Him and Rip running around screens together will give defenses fits.</p>
<p>I bet we end up with Stuckey and either Fesenko or Dudley.  And some obscure Euro in the second round.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gibson</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60254</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 03:30:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60254</guid>
		<description>Dudley would be nice but if we take anyone of those I mentioned at 15, he'd become moot since theres no real roster spot for him. We can't have every good guy unfortunatly.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dudley would be nice but if we take anyone of those I mentioned at 15, he&#8217;d become moot since theres no real roster spot for him. We can&#8217;t have every good guy unfortunatly.</p>
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		<title>By: LanierFan</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60253</link>
		<dc:creator>LanierFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 03:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60253</guid>
		<description>At 27 I've got them taking Fesenko, but Jared Dudley would be a steal. Not a workout warrior, just a productive basketball player in the Battier/Chuck Hayes mold. I'll boycott the NBA if his knucklehead ex-teammate gets drafted first.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At 27 I&#8217;ve got them taking Fesenko, but Jared Dudley would be a steal. Not a workout warrior, just a productive basketball player in the Battier/Chuck Hayes mold. I&#8217;ll boycott the NBA if his knucklehead ex-teammate gets drafted first.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gibson</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60252</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 03:22:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60252</guid>
		<description>There's three holes in the pistons roster. PG, SF, and C. With our depth at pf and Acker coming over we should be fine at pf and sg. Here's my plan going into the draft:

#15:
I say Pistons go for Nick Young, Al Thornton, Julian Wright, or Thaddeus Young  (in that order)

#27:
Sean Williams, Kyrylo Fesenko, or Marc Gasol (in that order)

Go after usual project with 2nd round pick. 

The hole thats left is pg. I say make a run after Steve Blake. He's a young pg, whos a true pg. He can pass and he can shoot the three and can eat some of Chauncey's minutes. I think we'd have a fantastic bench if this happens (fantastic meaning better than last year).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s three holes in the pistons roster. PG, SF, and C. With our depth at pf and Acker coming over we should be fine at pf and sg. Here&#8217;s my plan going into the draft:</p>
<p>#15:<br />
I say Pistons go for Nick Young, Al Thornton, Julian Wright, or Thaddeus Young  (in that order)</p>
<p>#27:<br />
Sean Williams, Kyrylo Fesenko, or Marc Gasol (in that order)</p>
<p>Go after usual project with 2nd round pick. </p>
<p>The hole thats left is pg. I say make a run after Steve Blake. He&#8217;s a young pg, whos a true pg. He can pass and he can shoot the three and can eat some of Chauncey&#8217;s minutes. I think we&#8217;d have a fantastic bench if this happens (fantastic meaning better than last year).</p>
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		<title>By: PistonsGirl4Life</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60243</link>
		<dc:creator>PistonsGirl4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 02:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60243</guid>
		<description>Frankly, almost every single scenario I've seen the past week online has SOMEONE who was rated big time falling.  I mean Noah has been anyplace from 4th to 14th during this process, where he goes ALONE changes everything.  Either way it doesn't matter to me who we get so long as his game right now is why we're drafting him, not what his game MIGHT be in 3 years right before we'd have to re-sign him anyways.  I'm DEFINATELY in the "not Hawes" camp, and i'm pretty GLAD we have no shot at Yi since his scouting report looks exactly like Amir's and I'm still waiting for Detroit to find HIM mins..... Now what we do with the 27th is a different matter entirely and I wish Joe D all the luck in the world on his next "foreign project big/guard" with that pick.  Go Tiago Splitter, drop like a stone for us baby!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Frankly, almost every single scenario I&#8217;ve seen the past week online has SOMEONE who was rated big time falling.  I mean Noah has been anyplace from 4th to 14th during this process, where he goes ALONE changes everything.  Either way it doesn&#8217;t matter to me who we get so long as his game right now is why we&#8217;re drafting him, not what his game MIGHT be in 3 years right before we&#8217;d have to re-sign him anyways.  I&#8217;m DEFINATELY in the &#8220;not Hawes&#8221; camp, and i&#8217;m pretty GLAD we have no shot at Yi since his scouting report looks exactly like Amir&#8217;s and I&#8217;m still waiting for Detroit to find HIM mins&#8230;.. Now what we do with the 27th is a different matter entirely and I wish Joe D all the luck in the world on his next &#8220;foreign project big/guard&#8221; with that pick.  Go Tiago Splitter, drop like a stone for us baby!</p>
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		<title>By: Fel</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60231</link>
		<dc:creator>Fel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 23 Jun 2007 00:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60231</guid>
		<description>There's a troubling article on http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2132
about Sean Williams.  It doesn't inspire much confidence in him.

I'm thinking positive and assuming that because most GMs are borderline morons someone good will drop to us at 15.  It seems to happen every year.  Whoever it is will have a huge chip on his shoulder and will procede to "make it rain" on every team that passed on him.  My fingers are crossed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s a troubling article on <a href="http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2132" rel="nofollow">http://www.draftexpress.com/viewarticle.php?a=2132</a><br />
about Sean Williams.  It doesn&#8217;t inspire much confidence in him.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m thinking positive and assuming that because most GMs are borderline morons someone good will drop to us at 15.  It seems to happen every year.  Whoever it is will have a huge chip on his shoulder and will procede to &#8220;make it rain&#8221; on every team that passed on him.  My fingers are crossed.</p>
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		<title>By: PleaseNoHawes</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60194</link>
		<dc:creator>PleaseNoHawes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 20:17:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60194</guid>
		<description>RE: the mock draft picks. I have to admit, I like the Pistons taking Nick Young or Stuckey at the 15 (or Crittenton, even, if he's available there), but for the love of god please not Hawes ... I'm not sold. Neither am I of Williams at 27 (getting dismissed from BC midseason won't help). I like Belinelli if he's there. I watched this kid play overseas and he has some real fire burning inside him and he'll kill you from outside if he gets going. If his shots aren't falling, he'll kill you by finding a way to get to the rim. No Belinelli? I reach a little for a guy nobody's mentioned in the first round and take Herbert Hill of Providence. He can play at both ends down low, has good footwork in the post and can play with his back to the basket. Those could be two real good picks that the team can use to shore up the bench.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: the mock draft picks. I have to admit, I like the Pistons taking Nick Young or Stuckey at the 15 (or Crittenton, even, if he&#8217;s available there), but for the love of god please not Hawes &#8230; I&#8217;m not sold. Neither am I of Williams at 27 (getting dismissed from BC midseason won&#8217;t help). I like Belinelli if he&#8217;s there. I watched this kid play overseas and he has some real fire burning inside him and he&#8217;ll kill you from outside if he gets going. If his shots aren&#8217;t falling, he&#8217;ll kill you by finding a way to get to the rim. No Belinelli? I reach a little for a guy nobody&#8217;s mentioned in the first round and take Herbert Hill of Providence. He can play at both ends down low, has good footwork in the post and can play with his back to the basket. Those could be two real good picks that the team can use to shore up the bench.</p>
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		<title>By: JackDutch</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60178</link>
		<dc:creator>JackDutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Jun 2007 18:23:42 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-06-21/thursday-afternoons-layup-drill/#comment-60178</guid>
		<description>joe keeps saying he wants to get somebody who will contribute right away. i'll take him at his word.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>joe keeps saying he wants to get somebody who will contribute right away. i&#8217;ll take him at his word.</p>
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