Nazr may give you 10 and 9, but instead of 2 blocked shots he’d have 2 stupid fouls.

Boney, at this point i’m inclined to agree re: Mohammed. The fact is there’s nobody on the market who won’t also cost 4+ million. I’d be interested in taking a flyer on a high energy nobody… but even THOSE guys are asking for 5 this offseason. With that in mind, i can’t really see anyone mentioned as a signifcant upgrade over Nazr.

As for the 20 mins and 6 fouls, EXACTLY.. that’s how I was honestly hoping we’d approach the 5. Have Mouhammed play 20 intense mins and somehow convince Sheed that he should play at least 20 of the other 28 at the 5. Mind you this involves the phrases “20 intense mins from Nazr Mohammed” and “Sheed playing more 5″… so I’m hardly betting on it.

As for Sammy Dalembert, a friend of mine who’s a big Sixers once described him as the only relevant team-mate Allen Iverson ever had in Philly. Sour grapes perhaps, but telling non the less.

It doesn’t mean he’s a superstar by any means, but he’s better than the guys listed, and that should show the weakness at the true Center position.

I’d prefer to go into the season with Nazr as there are clearly no true centers available at a reasonable rate (veteran minimum). Chris Webber is available as a PF option at C, and maybe he’ll re-sign. Other than that, why not give Nazr some run? He can provide 20 minutes and 6 fouls… lord knows he’ll use up all his fouls whether it’s 20 minutes or 10 minutes.

Also this d-league boxscore which was amazing:
http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/20070331/COLSFL/boxscore.html
Almost a quadruple double.

That’s why everyones so high on him and you should be able to see this in the last 3 games in the summer league and in the regular season. Oh and his first 2 nba points being a windmill jam helps.

now what i’d REALLY love is to A) hear that we’ve got a contract on the table for him and he likes it and B) actually see the kid play, i apparently missed his spot work last year. I mean the way everyone (Joe D included) talks about this kid he’s everything the Bucks are HOPING Eazy Yi will become with more heart to boot. If he’s HALF as nasty as the Baby Muncher… with Amir’s reported size/dimensions? Side Show Bob SHOULD move to the west, because there won’t be nothing sweet round the east if all this is true.

Now I just gotta see it, knowwhatumsayin?

As for the career backup 5’s that occupy roster space and consume air in Washington… You’re kidding right? I’d honestly rather have Webber back and i REALLY don’t want Webber back. That’s the general problem with the available bigs this year… most of them are “alot like Nazr” and “about the same price”. Let’s not do this crap twice, please Joe.

Etan Thomas doesn’t have as great of defense in comparison to Haywood. Etan’s also a solid rebounder, and he’s strong enough to play center in offensive sets. On defense, it’s a different story, since he’s not nearly as effective as Haywood.

Both Etan and Haywood are solid rebounders, kind of slow on the move, turnover magnets, and serve almost the same purpose. They both clean up for Arenas, Stevenson, Butler, and Jamison when they can keep up on the break. They both need half-court to be effective, have 8 feet for range most nights, and do little offensively.

I think the biggest tell-tale is that these two were trading rotation minutes with Michael Ruffin. Ruffin’s another big galump who isn’t any more than average to below-average.

Between Chris Webber, Etan Thomas, Rasho Nesterovic, Brendan Haywood, Nazr Mohammed, Michael Ruffin, Danny Fortson, Erick Dampier, and Samuel Dalembert, I’d take Webber, and I can’t really stand Chris Webber.

Whoever is running the NBAs internet webstreams needs to be fired asap. Terrible quality unless they dont want us to be able to tell the players apart. They could also at least give us a running scoreboard and a camera guy that wasnt half asleep. Plus I could never get it to work, I had to download the streaming video and then watch it(thats a problem on my end most likely)

Nazr is the guy who can be put in the paint and kept there because his shooting game consists of putbacks and anything within 8 feet of the rim. He can rebound, and he has a nose for getting the offensive board, in particular.

Trying to use Nazr any other way will not work. He’s had years to change and has never done as such.

I’d prefer Nazr to go, but expectation of finding some center more than average in quality who actually fits better with Detroit’s core . . . it’s probably a long shot, indeed.

(Note: It said 39 for conley’s 3/4 sprint but I found another site that said it was 3.09, its just at draftexpress you can soft it)

Flip Murray and Nazr aren’t going to bring the next big man “savior” to this team like what happened when Rasheed came. Actually, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Pistons put Murray on waivers after they added all the guards through the draft. Flip couldn’t find a team to give him a shot last off-season until Detroit signed him before training camp for the veteran’s exception. Nazr was signed as a knee jerk to Ben leaving. It could be worse, we could have Pryzbilla.

I missed most of the first half so I didn’t get to see much from Samb to take note of, but his stat line was respectable. Stuckey looked a bit lost out there, but he hit some clutch FTs at the end of the game and he definitely has the slashing aspect to his game that our team is in desperate need of. Whoever it was D-ing up on (I think) Louis Williams for the final possession of regulation locked him DOWN. The reason I don’t know who it is, is because NBA’s summer league online streams are not comparable to the quality of the Live Earth online streams.

J Max looked substantially better than his Philadelphia counterparts. He made a few mistakes and put up a couple bricks, but he was also owning them on the block and the elbow.

Also, let me remind everyone who was the starting center on the San Antonio Spurs’ 2005 NBA Championship squad that beat our boys. I’ll give you all a hint, we’re paying him $30 million over 6 years. I’d just like to raise the point of contention that Nazr would’ve been more effective last season had he gotten the boost Webber got from Dice being in shape and playing at his peak, taking pressure off. Nazr never got minutes once Dice got good, because we’d signed Webber at the same time Dice kicked in. Having I don’t think Nazr’s particularly good, but I also don’t think it particularly matters. Oberto averaged 4.25 and 4.25 against the Cavs and the Spurs easily swept. Like we couldn’t get better than that out of Nazr? He’s at the very least 6 and 6 if he starts and gets about 20 minutes burn. He’s not a good starting center, but entirely serviceable. I think the backlash attitude toward him is a bit premature. We all got on Webber’s jock after he put up a couple good games. I think we’ve all since cooled a good amount on C Webb. I think if we give Nazr the confidence that he can play 20 minutes a game, he’ll get the job done. If we get the rest of the boys to play to their ultimate level (and develop the pseudo-bench we had in ‘04) Nazr will work just fine as long as he’s not undercut by Flip chopping his minutes at the sign of any mistake.