Comments on: The big, long “catching up” post http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/ A Detroit Pistons blog Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:06:13 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: R.O.C http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-65305 R.O.C Wed, 18 Jul 2007 08:37:25 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-65305 Hopefully Samb can get to at least 250 lbs and maintain his mobility, but lets get something straight. Desagna Diop was not 190 when he came into the league. Actually if you check nbadraft.net he was listed at 300 lbs in the 2001 draft. The comparison, to put it kindly is a bit of a stretch. In todays NBA you don't have to be a 300 lb center to be a serviceable big man. Hopefully Samb can get to at least 250 lbs and maintain his mobility, but lets get something straight. Desagna Diop was not 190 when he came into the league. Actually if you check nbadraft.net he was listed at 300 lbs in the 2001 draft. The comparison, to put it kindly is a bit of a stretch. In todays NBA you don’t have to be a 300 lb center to be a serviceable big man.

]]> By: Cheikh Samb will be a Piston in 2007-08 at Detroit Bad Boys http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-65032 Cheikh Samb will be a Piston in 2007-08 at Detroit Bad Boys Mon, 16 Jul 2007 23:15:44 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-65032 [...] to DBB reader Juggernaut for the heads [...] […] to DBB reader Juggernaut for the heads […]

]]> By: Juggernaut http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-65019 Juggernaut Mon, 16 Jul 2007 22:26:49 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-65019 Looks like Samb and Mejia will be on the 15-man roster, according to Keith Langlois at nba.com: http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/summer_070716.html "Maybe the biggest news coming from Las Vegas is that Hammond said the Pistons have decided to get Samb signed so he can split time between the Pistons and their new Development League affiliate in Fort Wayne, Ind." and It also now appears likely that the Pistons will carry Sammy Mejia on the 15-man roster, Hammond said. The Pistons selected Mejia 57th in June’s NBA draft after taking guards Rodney Stuckey and Arron Afflalo in the first round. In addition to the three draft choices, Maxiell and Samb, Amir Johnson joined the Las Vegas summer team for its last game, a win over the Los Angeles Lakers, after re-signing with the Pistons as a restricted free agent. “We like him,” he said. “If we had our druthers, he would have an opportunity to do so.” Looks like Samb and Mejia will be on the 15-man roster, according to Keith Langlois at nba.com:

http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/summer_070716.html

“Maybe the biggest news coming from Las Vegas is that Hammond said the Pistons have decided to get Samb signed so he can split time between the Pistons and their new Development League affiliate in Fort Wayne, Ind.”

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It also now appears likely that the Pistons will carry Sammy Mejia on the 15-man roster, Hammond said. The Pistons selected Mejia 57th in June’s NBA draft after taking guards Rodney Stuckey and Arron Afflalo in the first round. In addition to the three draft choices, Maxiell and Samb, Amir Johnson joined the Las Vegas summer team for its last game, a win over the Los Angeles Lakers, after re-signing with the Pistons as a restricted free agent.

“We like him,” he said. “If we had our druthers, he would have an opportunity to do so.”

]]> By: Ryan http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64983 Ryan Mon, 16 Jul 2007 20:22:16 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64983 Hoopsworld posted an interesting feature on Mad Max (http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22645.shtml) and they also have a video interview that Pistons fans might enjoy. Hoopsworld posted an interesting feature on Mad Max (http://www.hoopsworld.com/article_22645.shtml) and they also have a video interview that Pistons fans might enjoy.

]]> By: The Spin http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64972 The Spin Mon, 16 Jul 2007 18:22:53 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64972 Lindsey Hunter needs to retire! The Pistons need to clear up some space for the young guys to get some minutes, or they'll never develop. As for Amir, he's got a lot of pressure on him heading into the season. That being said, it sounds like he'll get the playing time to prove himself. I'll be watching anxiously! Check me at www.clutch3.com Lindsey Hunter needs to retire! The Pistons need to clear up some space for the young guys to get some minutes, or they’ll never develop. As for Amir, he’s got a lot of pressure on him heading into the season. That being said, it sounds like he’ll get the playing time to prove himself. I’ll be watching anxiously!
Check me at http://www.clutch3.com

]]> By: wolf blitzer http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64968 wolf blitzer Mon, 16 Jul 2007 17:52:35 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64968 umm...so we traded lindsey away once at the beginning of the teal era.... was there another instance? umm…so we traded lindsey away once at the beginning of the teal era…. was there another instance?

]]> By: Rob G http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64952 Rob G Mon, 16 Jul 2007 16:06:56 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64952 What I think is funny is the quote that said "Samb will have to rely on pushups and situps to build muscle" once he returns home to Senegal this summer. What? They don't have heavy stuff to lift over there? I mean, Rocky got buff from chuckin' logs in rural Russia. Couldn't Samb pick up a rock or something? Send him a John Basedow tape! What I think is funny is the quote that said “Samb will have to rely on pushups and situps to build muscle” once he returns home to Senegal this summer. What? They don’t have heavy stuff to lift over there? I mean, Rocky got buff from chuckin’ logs in rural Russia. Couldn’t Samb pick up a rock or something? Send him a John Basedow tape!

]]> By: jimmy http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64884 jimmy Mon, 16 Jul 2007 07:35:20 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64884 hunter lives in my buddy's neighborhood in plymouth township, mich. needless to say they're huuuge houses, lol. hunter lives in my buddy’s neighborhood in plymouth township, mich. needless to say they’re huuuge houses, lol.

]]> By: Jason http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64880 Jason Mon, 16 Jul 2007 06:34:05 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64880 Lindsey Hunter... Trade... out of the question? are you serious? How many times have we traded away lindsey? That alone makes it possible that we could trade him. let alone expiring contract. unlikely would be a better word. As for flip murray... once again expiring contract. also flip did decent when billups was hurt... maybee in a the right situatuion he could be slightly more than marginal. As it is you won't see a market for flip (as previously stated) until free agency winds down. The real question is who gets the 15th roster spot? Lindsey Hunter… Trade… out of the question? are you serious? How many times have we traded away lindsey? That alone makes it possible that we could trade him. let alone expiring contract. unlikely would be a better word. As for flip murray… once again expiring contract. also flip did decent when billups was hurt… maybee in a the right situatuion he could be slightly more than marginal. As it is you won’t see a market for flip (as previously stated) until free agency winds down. The real question is who gets the 15th roster spot?

]]> By: wolf blitzer http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64847 wolf blitzer Mon, 16 Jul 2007 03:27:37 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64847 The Hunter already has a guaranteed front office position with the Pistons. Davidson tends to take care of those who he regards as loyal, as such, a trade is out of the question. The real question is whether Lindsey wants to play another season with what can be regarded as an unwritten mandate to bring in new blood, which would have the effect of further decreasing his own minutes, at the ripe ol' age of 52. The Hunter already has a guaranteed front office position with the Pistons. Davidson tends to take care of those who he regards as loyal, as such, a trade is out of the question. The real question is whether Lindsey wants to play another season with what can be regarded as an unwritten mandate to bring in new blood, which would have the effect of further decreasing his own minutes, at the ripe ol’ age of 52.

]]> By: Fel http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64843 Fel Mon, 16 Jul 2007 02:33:30 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64843 I have to think Sambs ceiling is higher that Diop, no pun intended. Samb can at least already hit that 10-15 footer. Diop played in the summer league specifically to work on his shot and went 2-19 from the field. I have to think Sambs ceiling is higher that Diop, no pun intended. Samb can at least already hit that 10-15 footer. Diop played in the summer league specifically to work on his shot and went 2-19 from the field.

]]> By: TheMicrowave http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64822 TheMicrowave Mon, 16 Jul 2007 00:04:08 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64822 If Hunter is traded, he will retire. His family is here, he has a business here. Maybe $2+ million has it's allure, but I bet he would take a modest settlement to disappear. Does anyone in their right mind think there is a trade market for Flip Murray? Why would Amir turn down more money? Simple. It doesn't help the club and they have already committed to matching all incoming offers. Why sabotage the guys you are going to play for anyways? Much respect to the Spurs for playing mind games though. If Hunter is traded, he will retire. His family is here, he has a business here. Maybe $2+ million has it’s allure, but I bet he would take a modest settlement to disappear.

Does anyone in their right mind think there is a trade market for Flip Murray?

Why would Amir turn down more money? Simple. It doesn’t help the club and they have already committed to matching all incoming offers. Why sabotage the guys you are going to play for anyways? Much respect to the Spurs for playing mind games though.

]]> By: kevin s. http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64815 kevin s. Sun, 15 Jul 2007 23:25:15 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64815 About the Spurs offer, it cannot have been for that much more. By staying with the Pistons, he stays with a team that has a veritable mandate by the GM to play him. That is probably worth an extra $270k per year when you're playing for the 6-year deal. The issue isn't that the Pistons are that old, but rather that there isn't any good transitional assets between the kids and the adults. If Dumars can cultivate a starting 5 that will be ready in 3 years, he will do something that I have not seen done before. It's easy to get excited about Summer league and "upside", but virtually every team has youngsters with potential. Stuckey, Spellcheck, Johnson, Samb and Maxiell could all be great (well, the ceiling for Samb seems to be Dasagna Diop, so "great" might be overstating it) but they will not ALL be great. Players like Billups, Hamilton, Wallace, and Prince are hard to come by. That's why, when you have them on your team together, you play them heavily in hopes of taking your best chance at a title. I want to see what Stuckey and Maxiell can do to help THIS ensemble win games, not see what they might be 3 years down the road. On that note, it was nice to read Maxiell eyeing a potential starting spot (and, apparently, going on the Nazr diet). It seems like he gets it. Delfino didn't. Milicic didn't. Even Okur didn't, though he panned out for Utah. About the Spurs offer, it cannot have been for that much more. By staying with the Pistons, he stays with a team that has a veritable mandate by the GM to play him. That is probably worth an extra $270k per year when you’re playing for the 6-year deal.

The issue isn’t that the Pistons are that old, but rather that there isn’t any good transitional assets between the kids and the adults. If Dumars can cultivate a starting 5 that will be ready in 3 years, he will do something that I have not seen done before.

It’s easy to get excited about Summer league and “upside”, but virtually every team has youngsters with potential. Stuckey, Spellcheck, Johnson, Samb and Maxiell could all be great (well, the ceiling for Samb seems to be Dasagna Diop, so “great” might be overstating it) but they will not ALL be great.

Players like Billups, Hamilton, Wallace, and Prince are hard to come by. That’s why, when you have them on your team together, you play them heavily in hopes of taking your best chance at a title.

I want to see what Stuckey and Maxiell can do to help THIS ensemble win games, not see what they might be 3 years down the road. On that note, it was nice to read Maxiell eyeing a potential starting spot (and, apparently, going on the Nazr diet). It seems like he gets it. Delfino didn’t. Milicic didn’t. Even Okur didn’t, though he panned out for Utah.

]]> By: Juggernaut http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64804 Juggernaut Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:48:44 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64804 I dont want Hnter to see one speck of playing time, unless its garbage time I dont want Hnter to see one speck of playing time, unless its garbage time

]]> By: Ranvir http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64797 Ranvir Sun, 15 Jul 2007 20:17:45 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-07-15/the-big-long-catching-up-post/#comment-64797 I'm fine with Lindsey playing as long as he is contractually bound never to shoot a shot of any kind. I’m fine with Lindsey playing as long as he is contractually bound never to shoot a shot of any kind.

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