Comments on: Will Billups and Prince get worn out this summer? http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/ A Detroit Pistons blog Sun, 23 Nov 2008 16:22:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Keegan http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73429 Keegan Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:06:11 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73429 Actually, I'm not high on Flip, but it's hilarious that he's beaten like a pinata by Detroit fans. Being the Pistons' coach is like being the Lions' starting quarterback or the Wings' #1 goalie; you're going to get shredded by people the instant anything goes wrong. Actually, I’m not high on Flip, but it’s hilarious that he’s beaten like a pinata by Detroit fans.
Being the Pistons’ coach is like being the Lions’ starting quarterback or the Wings’ #1 goalie; you’re going to get shredded by people the instant anything goes wrong.

]]> By: Keegan http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73329 Keegan Sat, 25 Aug 2007 00:51:25 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73329 Bill Walton's on there because he gets people stirred up. I don't think it's that he's uninformed or ignorant, he just blathers without a filter. I love Hubie Brown, but he'll bore the hell out of the casual basketball fan (of which there are less and less, judging by TV ratings). Oh, wait! Hit the Flip Siren! I saw it up there! Bill Walton’s on there because he gets people stirred up. I don’t think it’s that he’s uninformed or ignorant, he just blathers without a filter.
I love Hubie Brown, but he’ll bore the hell out of the casual basketball fan (of which there are less and less, judging by TV ratings).
Oh, wait! Hit the Flip Siren! I saw it up there!

]]> By: The Playoffs: Where the Top Seed Means Jack | Detroit Bad Boys http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73273 The Playoffs: Where the Top Seed Means Jack | Detroit Bad Boys Fri, 24 Aug 2007 18:41:24 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73273 [...] of the story: develop the bench. (Thanks to DBB Reader PDXPistonsFan for planting the seed of the story [...] […] of the story: develop the bench. (Thanks to DBB Reader PDXPistonsFan for planting the seed of the story […]

]]> By: MADDSTEVE http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73223 MADDSTEVE Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:26:46 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73223 I agree Bill Walton is an Idiot I have to watch the games with the volume off. I agree Bill Walton is an Idiot I have to watch the games with the volume off.

]]> By: PistonsGirl4Life http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73142 PistonsGirl4Life Fri, 24 Aug 2007 03:58:17 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73142 Thanks for the info, I missed the game because of work obligations. RE: Walton, though I didn't actually see the game I've grown so accustomed to his half baked "observations" and on the spot (read completely made up) "analysis" that I can actually IMAGING his dopey bewildered voice saying that quote. What drives me balistic is that NOBODY calls him on being a half-cracked dottering old moron because "At one time he coulda been a basketball legend... except for his knee"... like gimme a break. If we can admitt that Larry Bird and Isiah Thomas are complete failures as basketball managers (both coaching and player aquisitions) why can't someone grab Walton's mic and yell "Sit down, shut up and have some oatmeal cookies you senile cracker" the next time he goes off? I mean for YEARS I wondered this about Magic Johnson too...why, not ONCE didn't a respected journalist/broadcaster in the booth go "Damnit Magic that's not even a word. You just made that up and that's like the 5th made up word tonight. I REFUSE to keep working with you until you learn to speak English" and then just march off set......why didn't this happen damnit? Thanks for the info, I missed the game because of work obligations. RE: Walton, though I didn’t actually see the game I’ve grown so accustomed to his half baked “observations” and on the spot (read completely made up) “analysis” that I can actually IMAGING his dopey bewildered voice saying that quote. What drives me balistic is that NOBODY calls him on being a half-cracked dottering old moron because “At one time he coulda been a basketball legend… except for his knee”… like gimme a break. If we can admitt that Larry Bird and Isiah Thomas are complete failures as basketball managers (both coaching and player aquisitions) why can’t someone grab Walton’s mic and yell “Sit down, shut up and have some oatmeal cookies you senile cracker” the next time he goes off? I mean for YEARS I wondered this about Magic Johnson too…why, not ONCE didn’t a respected journalist/broadcaster in the booth go “Damnit Magic that’s not even a word. You just made that up and that’s like the 5th made up word tonight. I REFUSE to keep working with you until you learn to speak English” and then just march off set……why didn’t this happen damnit?

]]> By: Fel http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73100 Fel Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:56:50 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73100 It was mostly garbage time that Tay was playing in a blowout win. I doubt he would get that much play in a competetive game. Though IMO he should start and bring Le-Bron off the bench cause I really dont like Lebrons game of steamroll to the hoop for layups/dunks for the international game. I'd actually like to see Lebron play PG like Jason Kidd and just set guys up. Worse thing about the games are listening to Bill Walton. Who really couldnt figure out why JoeD got more guards (Stuckey/Spellcheck)when we need frontcourt help (uh Maxiell/Amir?). It was mostly garbage time that Tay was playing in a blowout win. I doubt he would get that much play in a competetive game. Though IMO he should start and bring Le-Bron off the bench cause I really dont like Lebrons game of steamroll to the hoop for layups/dunks for the international game. I’d actually like to see Lebron play PG like Jason Kidd and just set guys up.

Worse thing about the games are listening to Bill Walton. Who really couldnt figure out why JoeD got more guards (Stuckey/Spellcheck)when we need frontcourt help (uh Maxiell/Amir?).

]]> By: Tbranch http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73094 Tbranch Thu, 23 Aug 2007 22:07:12 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73094 I wouldn't worry about tiring out Tayshaun. He's a young athlete. You can't tire him out... not long term anyway. I actually think that this will be good for Tay and Chauncey. They are gonna come back to the Palace feeling like Champions again. That's a good feeling to have when starting a new season. It'll also be a good feeling to spread around the rest of the locker room. Besides... Team USA is only gonna play what? 6 Games or something? Nobody is gonna get tired. Chauncey prolly would have played more hard minutes in his drive way this summer than he will at the FIBA. I wouldn’t worry about tiring out Tayshaun. He’s a young athlete. You can’t tire him out… not long term anyway.

I actually think that this will be good for Tay and Chauncey. They are gonna come back to the Palace feeling like Champions again. That’s a good feeling to have when starting a new season. It’ll also be a good feeling to spread around the rest of the locker room.

Besides… Team USA is only gonna play what? 6 Games or something?
Nobody is gonna get tired. Chauncey prolly would have played more hard minutes in his drive way this summer than he will at the FIBA.

]]> By: Sauce1977 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73056 Sauce1977 Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:56:09 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73056 24 minutes for Tayshaun? There goes my Coach K doesn't play Billups and Prince theory. Actually, Billups only netted 14 minutes, but if Prince keeps up a busy schedule between now and pre-season, then it looks like Hayes will be a regular rotation member to give our Palace Prince some rest. I'd like you to literally and figuratively tackle Flip Saunders. 24 minutes for Tayshaun? There goes my Coach K doesn’t play Billups and Prince theory. Actually, Billups only netted 14 minutes, but if Prince keeps up a busy schedule between now and pre-season, then it looks like Hayes will be a regular rotation member to give our Palace Prince some rest.

I’d like you to literally and figuratively tackle Flip Saunders.

]]> By: joejoejoe http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73052 joejoejoe Thu, 23 Aug 2007 16:11:07 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73052 Tayshaun Prince led Team USA in minutes (24) last night vs. Venezuela. I have mixed feelings about it - it's so cool for Prince to get the most playing time on that roster but I'll be cursing Coach Krzyflipski in the playoffs if Prince is run down. Billups played 14 minutes. http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/fiba/boxscore?gameId=270824917 Tayshaun Prince led Team USA in minutes (24) last night vs. Venezuela. I have mixed feelings about it - it’s so cool for Prince to get the most playing time on that roster but I’ll be cursing Coach Krzyflipski in the playoffs if Prince is run down. Billups played 14 minutes.

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/fiba/boxscore?gameId=270824917

]]> By: Hieu http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73026 Hieu Thu, 23 Aug 2007 14:20:44 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-73026 This is why NBA players are a very different breed than us mear mortals. I don't think it was the reason of burn-out but rather how much Chauncey and Taychaun wanted the Championship the last few years. They'll do fine. It is the rest of the Piston team that also want to wants it too. This is why NBA players are a very different breed than us mear mortals. I don’t think it was the reason of burn-out but rather how much Chauncey and Taychaun wanted the Championship the last few years. They’ll do fine. It is the rest of the Piston team that also want to wants it too.

]]> By: Matt Watson http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-72969 Matt Watson Thu, 23 Aug 2007 06:39:57 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-72969 I was actually soliciting topic ideas for future HoopsWorld articles (I see now that was awfully vague), but I actually like the direction went in ... To be honest, making this site more of a two-way conversation has been a goal of mine for a long time, especially lately -- I've been really surprised/amazed/impressed at how many of you have made this a daily stop during what's really been an uneventful offseason. I get an email every time someone leaves a comment, and without fail I stop what I'm doing to read it -- collectively, you guys provide some of the best analysis anywhere. So yeah, I love the idea of getting more people involved. I still have to sort out how exactly that'll work, but it'll definitely happen between now and the start of the season, and I'm glad that it's something that some of you are already up for. I was actually soliciting topic ideas for future HoopsWorld articles (I see now that was awfully vague), but I actually like the direction went in …

To be honest, making this site more of a two-way conversation has been a goal of mine for a long time, especially lately — I’ve been really surprised/amazed/impressed at how many of you have made this a daily stop during what’s really been an uneventful offseason. I get an email every time someone leaves a comment, and without fail I stop what I’m doing to read it — collectively, you guys provide some of the best analysis anywhere.

So yeah, I love the idea of getting more people involved. I still have to sort out how exactly that’ll work, but it’ll definitely happen between now and the start of the season, and I’m glad that it’s something that some of you are already up for.

]]> By: Rob G http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-72966 Rob G Thu, 23 Aug 2007 06:02:30 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-72966 Don't read the archives after the Cleveland loss. I got embarrassingly drunk. Didn't I write something about Krista Jahnke? Didn't I threaten Varejao? Don't want to relive that... Anyway, what can you change about perfection? The best idea I've heard is Mike Payne's - diversifyin' the voices might be good. Just don't invite me to do it. It would get too weird. Don’t read the archives after the Cleveland loss. I got embarrassingly drunk. Didn’t I write something about Krista Jahnke? Didn’t I threaten Varejao? Don’t want to relive that…

Anyway, what can you change about perfection? The best idea I’ve heard is Mike Payne’s - diversifyin’ the voices might be good.

Just don’t invite me to do it. It would get too weird.

]]> By: joejoejoe http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-72952 joejoejoe Thu, 23 Aug 2007 04:04:51 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-72952 I have another thought. Maybe during the offseason when it's slow you can post an open thread for people to talk basketball now and then. I know people go off topic somewhat (including me) in your posts and that's not always a good way to produce good discussion. On the other hand people share interesting details all the time in the comments. So the occasional open thread could act as a vent for random thoughts and help keep the comments in your posts/reports focused on the post itself. I have another thought. Maybe during the offseason when it’s slow you can post an open thread for people to talk basketball now and then. I know people go off topic somewhat (including me) in your posts and that’s not always a good way to produce good discussion. On the other hand people share interesting details all the time in the comments. So the occasional open thread could act as a vent for random thoughts and help keep the comments in your posts/reports focused on the post itself.

]]> By: PistonsGirl4Life http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-72949 PistonsGirl4Life Thu, 23 Aug 2007 03:34:03 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-72949 Whoa boy, absolutely I have some suggestions. You do a great job here Mr Wilson but I think it's obvious to savy NY Times reading-ESPN Highlight watchin fans that something needs to change to bring this blog to the next level. You know, to really pull in the crowds which in turn rakes in the advertising dollars if yaknowhatumsayin bay-bee! It's not that you aren't doing a great job Matt, but all this technical coverage and minute attention to detail over a team like Detroit? Come on, that isn't sexy, that isn't "Now"... and that's never going to get you "Chad Ford" dollars/fame/respect... I got three words for ya babeee... "More...Kobe...Bryant!" Seriously... also maybe a constantly updating "Mike Vick Dogfighting Scandle Tracker" for the top banner..... Also could you talk a little bit more about Yi's tremendous upside potential and maybe a couple articles on how for a scrawny white kid who cries on national TV, Andre Krilinko is Hard-MutherFing-Core? Gotta promote that international flava playa! (Jokes aside... change nothing Matt, this place owns.) Whoa boy, absolutely I have some suggestions. You do a great job here Mr Wilson but I think it’s obvious to savy NY Times reading-ESPN Highlight watchin fans that something needs to change to bring this blog to the next level. You know, to really pull in the crowds which in turn rakes in the advertising dollars if yaknowhatumsayin bay-bee! It’s not that you aren’t doing a great job Matt, but all this technical coverage and minute attention to detail over a team like Detroit? Come on, that isn’t sexy, that isn’t “Now”… and that’s never going to get you “Chad Ford” dollars/fame/respect… I got three words for ya babeee… “More…Kobe…Bryant!” Seriously… also maybe a constantly updating “Mike Vick Dogfighting Scandle Tracker” for the top banner…..

Also could you talk a little bit more about Yi’s tremendous upside potential and maybe a couple articles on how for a scrawny white kid who cries on national TV, Andre Krilinko is Hard-MutherFing-Core? Gotta promote that international flava playa!

(Jokes aside… change nothing Matt, this place owns.)

]]> By: PDXPistonsFan http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-72938 PDXPistonsFan Thu, 23 Aug 2007 02:29:23 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-08-22/will-billups-and-prince-get-worn-out-this-summer/#comment-72938 I discovered this site yesterday, and I have no idea why it took me this long. I agree with previous posters on this thread: the community of fans I've been hoping for is right here. I went through the archives of the loss to Cleveland, and my stomach feels just like it did that night. I hope they're hungry again. I also hope that the fans in the Palace somehow start feeling and acting like they did from 2002-2005. Watching the games in the playoffs made me mad as hell. The lower bowl was sitting down, stunned looks on their faces as Lebron came at the team. You can't tell me the Stones don't play better defense and knock down shots with the crowd going crazy behind them, because I've been watching this team totally outplay other teams with effort and intensity. When the crowd is there, so is the effort. You can say that it shouldn't matter what the crowd is doing, that the players are making money and should bring it, but when they know WHY they're really playing, they leave it on the floor. The Palace crowd was pathetic against Cleveland. I live in Portland, and I can't afford to buy airfare and tickets to see the playoffs live, but I almost went to Detroit on Greyhound just to get in the faces of the lame crowds that showed up. I'm mad again, just remembering, because it's so obvious that the Palace crowds got spoiled over the last few years. One championship is enough for the fans? I discovered this site yesterday, and I have no idea why it took me this long. I agree with previous posters on this thread: the community of fans I’ve been hoping for is right here. I went through the archives of the loss to Cleveland, and my stomach feels just like it did that night.

I hope they’re hungry again.

I also hope that the fans in the Palace somehow start feeling and acting like they did from 2002-2005. Watching the games in the playoffs made me mad as hell. The lower bowl was sitting down, stunned looks on their faces as Lebron came at the team. You can’t tell me the Stones don’t play better defense and knock down shots with the crowd going crazy behind them, because I’ve been watching this team totally outplay other teams with effort and intensity. When the crowd is there, so is the effort. You can say that it shouldn’t matter what the crowd is doing, that the players are making money and should bring it, but when they know WHY they’re really playing, they leave it on the floor.

The Palace crowd was pathetic against Cleveland. I live in Portland, and I can’t afford to buy airfare and tickets to see the playoffs live, but I almost went to Detroit on Greyhound just to get in the faces of the lame crowds that showed up. I’m mad again, just remembering, because it’s so obvious that the Palace crowds got spoiled over the last few years. One championship is enough for the fans?

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