I think it is time for Bill Laimbeer to stop dicking around and get down to business by annihilating the opponents till sunset.

No one is debating track speeds between top level women and top level men track athletes. You said an average male who can ball is better than a top level woman basketball player. The correct comparison would be between the average male high school track athlete and the fastest women in the world. Your average male track runner will get smoked in the 100 meter.

You said you weren’t good enough to play on your HS team, but your only comparison is against someone who isn’t a world class athlete. (Furthermore DIV3 schools aren’t allowed to offer athletic scholarships.)

You have yet to provide any evidence to back up your assertions and the only arguments you’ve provided to prove your point are fallacious.

That having been said I’m NOT a freaking multi time WNBA All-Star.. the girls cited in my example are so I can only assume that in ADDITION to being stronger and faster than I am, they probably are smarter too and suprising PLAY BASKETBALL BETTER BECAUSE THEY ARE PROS… is this really that hard to understand?

I said that Swin could beat anyone on this board in pickup (which last I checked is a team game) and that Ford would destroy you on the glass. I also said it after listing the types of comments I FREQUENTLY read on ESPN… this was a way of saying “most of these girls get dissed for not playing a *real* sport but would destroy the average internet poster who says these things because they are world class athletes”…The obvious connection in my post is “what right do a bunch of guys who watch basketball but couldn’t go 10 mins with any of these girls have to say that this game is somehow not worthy?”

So are you or are you not trying to say that you could beat Swin Cash in a game of basketball because you A) have nads and B) beat some poor girl you know in one on one regularly who may or may not atttend a univeristy that might have a girls team; who knows, they’re Div III? Or rather some hypothetical kid who actually MADE his HS team could?

Cause dude I just re-read your first post about 7 times and it quite clearly seems thats what you are saying and frankly if it is you’re full of shit.

I too have no desire to get into a big fight about a hypothetical game that isn’t going to be played but if your point was “The highest level of women players aren’t as good as the highest level of men’s players”… you should say that… rather than saying that Swin Cash is 165 lbs and you beat some chick you know at basketball all the time… thus CLEARLY imply you’re saying you could beat Swin Cash at basketball or at least think you can.

Just because you say it in 3 nicely spaces paragraphs doesn’t make the viewpoint any less ignorant. As for the whole competant 6′ male HS player line… You are as I stated earlier welcome to your opinion…also welcome to being wrong. I mean even the guy on basketbawful gives “The girl” more respect than automatically assuming she’s worse than a HS kid and he’s talking about a random pickup player with breasts, not the best female basektball players in the world… You’re crackers, period.

Julie, save your Billie Jean King argument for someone who’s moved by emotional appeals and doesn’t care about facts. Riggs was 55 while BJK was 29 for that match. Clearly I’ve heard more about BJK than you have, because she didn’t play a young, conditioned athlete that you credit the Shock for being.

If there’s no one on this board who’s a twentysomething dude over 6′ and in good physical shape, then no one on the board stands a chance, but I could pull a few of my athletic friends together, and I don’t think Swin Cash is going to be balling all over them or Cheryl Ford “kicking their ass” on the boards, even if they’re pro athletes. Maybe all of DBB is athletically challenged like me. That’s certainly possible. It’s nothing against women athletes or the enjoyability of their games, as I believe that awesome competition on most levels is generally compelling stuff, but a big part of what makes competition fun to watch is determined by how closely matched you are by who you’re playing against.

I didn’t want a huge thing to come out of this, I’m just very bothered by statements that I view as hyperbole, as in how I viewed some of the original statements from PG4L. Swin and Cheryl are awesome, I’m not trying to take anything away from them despite what it may seem. I’m just trying to establish perspective.

Not all WNBA games are as good as this series between Detroit and Phoenix, but many are close. To answer a question asked in an earlier comment, Detroit is a collection of great players winning because they work as a team. Like the Pistons, they have one of the best starting five in the league and the 6th (wo)man of the year. I can’t stand them, anymore than I can stand the Pistons. If I was in Detroit, though, I’d be at every game.