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	<title>Comments on: Rodney Stuckey&#8217;s injury in perspective</title>
	<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/</link>
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		<title>By: joejoejeo</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-89319</link>
		<dc:creator>joejoejeo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 11:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-89319</guid>
		<description>I don't have a problem with officials calling a tight game but flopping should get you a technical foul.</description>
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		<title>By: Diablo</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-89079</link>
		<dc:creator>Diablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 17:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-89079</guid>
		<description>Heres a funny video...just in time for Holloween
http://widgets.clearspring.com/o/46a8f95380ba919f/4724acf071329ab1

courtesy of Detroit Pistons Offical Fan Myspace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heres a funny video&#8230;just in time for Holloween<br />
<a href="http://widgets.clearspring.com/o/46a8f95380ba919f/4724acf071329ab1" rel="nofollow">http://widgets.clearspring.com/o/46a8f95380ba919f/4724acf071329ab1</a></p>
<p>courtesy of Detroit Pistons Offical Fan Myspace</p>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-89068</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 16:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-89068</guid>
		<description>I'm 100% willing to admit that foul calls have gotten more frequent, maybe too frequent, especially in the case of the aforementioned "median star" superstars.  Guys flop (on defense and offense alike) and get calls which bugs me.  I don't necessarily disagree with anything you've said here PG4L, I guess I'm just sort of closer to feeling apathetic about this than you are.  The general impression I get from you, is that you're very impassioned about it.  Different people, different issues.  

Just because Mason has spawned a rallying cry that has helped to unite and engage Pistons fans doesn't mean that (over)officiating needs to play as much a role as it does in dictating the pace of the game, and seemingly providing to keep it close down the stretch.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m 100% willing to admit that foul calls have gotten more frequent, maybe too frequent, especially in the case of the aforementioned &#8220;median star&#8221; superstars.  Guys flop (on defense and offense alike) and get calls which bugs me.  I don&#8217;t necessarily disagree with anything you&#8217;ve said here PG4L, I guess I&#8217;m just sort of closer to feeling apathetic about this than you are.  The general impression I get from you, is that you&#8217;re very impassioned about it.  Different people, different issues.  </p>
<p>Just because Mason has spawned a rallying cry that has helped to unite and engage Pistons fans doesn&#8217;t mean that (over)officiating needs to play as much a role as it does in dictating the pace of the game, and seemingly providing to keep it close down the stretch.</p>
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		<title>By: PistonsGirl4Life</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-89053</link>
		<dc:creator>PistonsGirl4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 14:16:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-89053</guid>
		<description>I agree with MOST of that, but I think it's dangerous to say "because it's entertainment" it's okay.  The last 8 years or so have seen a new era in NBA officiating and having seen the future I'd rather go back to the past.  No offence but EVERY median star in the league gets at least one "Superstar" call a night, and come playoffs EVERY single year there's at least one guy going to the line SO often you can't really understand how his opponents ever GOT to the NBA if they're so crappy on defence they have to foul him EVER drive.  It's not even NEWS anymore when it happens.

Look I understand the NBA had a problem back in the mid 90's, talent level was way down and fan apathy with the "points cost pain" style of play Pat Riley mastered with the Knicks was at an all time high.  The game had degerated into big men backing inside for monster dunks inbetween hard fouls on anyone who wasn't 300LBS inside the paint.  It was time for a change...

I guess I just don't agree than manufacturing drama/excitement/adverstising revenue by havitually sending star players to the line 20 times a night was the way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with MOST of that, but I think it&#8217;s dangerous to say &#8220;because it&#8217;s entertainment&#8221; it&#8217;s okay.  The last 8 years or so have seen a new era in NBA officiating and having seen the future I&#8217;d rather go back to the past.  No offence but EVERY median star in the league gets at least one &#8220;Superstar&#8221; call a night, and come playoffs EVERY single year there&#8217;s at least one guy going to the line SO often you can&#8217;t really understand how his opponents ever GOT to the NBA if they&#8217;re so crappy on defence they have to foul him EVER drive.  It&#8217;s not even NEWS anymore when it happens.</p>
<p>Look I understand the NBA had a problem back in the mid 90&#8217;s, talent level was way down and fan apathy with the &#8220;points cost pain&#8221; style of play Pat Riley mastered with the Knicks was at an all time high.  The game had degerated into big men backing inside for monster dunks inbetween hard fouls on anyone who wasn&#8217;t 300LBS inside the paint.  It was time for a change&#8230;</p>
<p>I guess I just don&#8217;t agree than manufacturing drama/excitement/adverstising revenue by havitually sending star players to the line 20 times a night was the way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88997</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 09:01:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88997</guid>
		<description>Thanks Garrett! Though truthfully I was a much bigger fan of The Rock than Austin back in that day (although Austin's in-ring work in the early 90s was stellar) and Bret Hart before them.  Before he went all psycho-murderer, Chris Benoit was the measuring stick for today's era of wrestling.  When Sheed got belts for everyone on the 04-05 opening night, that was absolutely classic.  Back on the subject of the NBA and the Pistons, I think it's important to talk about what Sheed actually said.  

While I won't go as far as to say the refs intentionally or deliberately swung it to the Cavs, I'm sure Stern was rooting for them to beat us with LeBron as the media darling.  So yes, the NBA is an entertainment industry now more so than ever.  

Each year some team unveils a new jersey in hopes it will buoy sagging sales.  Detroit's change in public address announcers from Ken Calvert to John Mason and its subsequent success is a shining example of the NBA providing more than just the game.  The popularity of Inside the NBA is unmistakable. Fans are just as likely to stay up late to tune in for basketball information as they are to see what comment(s) will be produced from the inimitable chemistry between Ernie, Kenny, Charles (and sometime guest).  It's entertainment, and personally, I'm fine with it.  I don't think that its spawned any particular subterfuge in how games are called.  I do think guys (Sheed) who rub officials the wrong way get shafted here and there. And I do think they ought to revisit their stance on technical fouls, as I'm sure most here agree.  But aside from Stern's decision on how to address the non-sports gambling refs this week, I really have no beef with the NBA brass. 

This idea that he wasn't going to bend NBA rules for the Phoenix/San Antonio incident in order to protect the integrity of the commissioner's office/rules of the game, but yet he would gladly shift rules when faced with the prospect of disciplining numerous referees strikes me as pathetic.  My uncle used to say "Consistency is for the small minded".  Apparently Stern takes after him.  My uncle wasn't right and neither is Stern in this case.  If I were a Phoenix fan I'd be just as pissed as a result of the events this week as I would've been immediately following the suspension of Amare &#38; Bell.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Garrett! Though truthfully I was a much bigger fan of The Rock than Austin back in that day (although Austin&#8217;s in-ring work in the early 90s was stellar) and Bret Hart before them.  Before he went all psycho-murderer, Chris Benoit was the measuring stick for today&#8217;s era of wrestling.  When Sheed got belts for everyone on the 04-05 opening night, that was absolutely classic.  Back on the subject of the NBA and the Pistons, I think it&#8217;s important to talk about what Sheed actually said.  </p>
<p>While I won&#8217;t go as far as to say the refs intentionally or deliberately swung it to the Cavs, I&#8217;m sure Stern was rooting for them to beat us with LeBron as the media darling.  So yes, the NBA is an entertainment industry now more so than ever.  </p>
<p>Each year some team unveils a new jersey in hopes it will buoy sagging sales.  Detroit&#8217;s change in public address announcers from Ken Calvert to John Mason and its subsequent success is a shining example of the NBA providing more than just the game.  The popularity of Inside the NBA is unmistakable. Fans are just as likely to stay up late to tune in for basketball information as they are to see what comment(s) will be produced from the inimitable chemistry between Ernie, Kenny, Charles (and sometime guest).  It&#8217;s entertainment, and personally, I&#8217;m fine with it.  I don&#8217;t think that its spawned any particular subterfuge in how games are called.  I do think guys (Sheed) who rub officials the wrong way get shafted here and there. And I do think they ought to revisit their stance on technical fouls, as I&#8217;m sure most here agree.  But aside from Stern&#8217;s decision on how to address the non-sports gambling refs this week, I really have no beef with the NBA brass. </p>
<p>This idea that he wasn&#8217;t going to bend NBA rules for the Phoenix/San Antonio incident in order to protect the integrity of the commissioner&#8217;s office/rules of the game, but yet he would gladly shift rules when faced with the prospect of disciplining numerous referees strikes me as pathetic.  My uncle used to say &#8220;Consistency is for the small minded&#8221;.  Apparently Stern takes after him.  My uncle wasn&#8217;t right and neither is Stern in this case.  If I were a Phoenix fan I&#8217;d be just as pissed as a result of the events this week as I would&#8217;ve been immediately following the suspension of Amare &amp; Bell.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin S.</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88969</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 07:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88969</guid>
		<description>The good thing is that broken hands are not signs of an injury-prone player.  Stuckey getting snared on a jersey is a fluke.  However, given that his contributions were to be the difference maker this year, this certainly sets us back.

What happened to fantasy b-ball?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good thing is that broken hands are not signs of an injury-prone player.  Stuckey getting snared on a jersey is a fluke.  However, given that his contributions were to be the difference maker this year, this certainly sets us back.</p>
<p>What happened to fantasy b-ball?</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88926</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 05:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88926</guid>
		<description>I'm going to bring a "Sheed 3:16" to a game just for you, LawyerBoy!</description>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88861</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 02:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88861</guid>
		<description>I suppose you have to stand up once before you're ever knocked down (because if you're not up, how can you be knocked down?). It's kind of a chicken-egg which comes first type theory, I suppose. Lame either way, especially since Wade appears to be a pussy as evidenced by the aforementioned video.

Something tells me Stuckey is mentally and physically tough. I mentioned on this board before (it blows me away) that Stuckey's ranking back in 2004 on the Rivals 150 was 131.  Here's some underwhelming Big 10 players ranked slightly higher than Stuckey in 2004's HS class for perspective: MSU's Goran Suton (123), Minnesota's Spencer Tollackson (118), OSU's Matt Terwilliger (111).  Yes, this isn't a science and BC's (now the Nets' first-round pick) Sean Williams was 104, and new TrailBlazer Taurean Green was 105. Even borderline 1st round pick for next year's draft, UT's Chris Lofton was behind Rodney at 146!  Ironically, Afflalo, also of the 2004 class, was ranked 26th in the Rivals 150 that year.  The point is that Stuckey wasn't highly touted coming out of high school.  

College scouts didn't see anything special in a guy like Stuckey.  He only had offers from the schools in his home state, but when he chose Eastern Washington he ended up CARRYING the squad (no one even finished within 10 ppg of Rodney last season) his two years there.  To me, from this evidence, the guy apparently knows how to work hard to get past obstacles.  Long story short, I don't see this injury posing a real mental or physical deterrent to the guy.  

On a funny note, Sheed touched on something I've rationalized as to why I'm such a proponent of allowing his emotional reactivity.  According to a McCosky article, Sheed was quoted Wednesday as saying "This game ain't basketball anymore, it's entertainment.  It's starting to get like the WWF."  I agree that it is entertainment, except that basketball will never quite get like wrestling since wrestlers suffer way more pain and have no offseason and their contests are blatantly fixed and most importantly since most avid wrestling fans (except for myself and my friends of course!) are morons.  
But if I didn't get enjoyment out of Sheed's antics I wouldn't condone the guy getting $12 mil./year from us.  From my eyes, he definitely earns about $2-3 mil./year of his deal just for being funny.  Sorry for getting on a defending wrestling high horse there, but we have to admit that pretty much everyone loved when he bought a replica WWE World Heavyweight Title Belt for every member of the squad when we won the title.  Now we can all agree wrestling is good for at least something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I suppose you have to stand up once before you&#8217;re ever knocked down (because if you&#8217;re not up, how can you be knocked down?). It&#8217;s kind of a chicken-egg which comes first type theory, I suppose. Lame either way, especially since Wade appears to be a pussy as evidenced by the aforementioned video.</p>
<p>Something tells me Stuckey is mentally and physically tough. I mentioned on this board before (it blows me away) that Stuckey&#8217;s ranking back in 2004 on the Rivals 150 was 131.  Here&#8217;s some underwhelming Big 10 players ranked slightly higher than Stuckey in 2004&#8217;s HS class for perspective: MSU&#8217;s Goran Suton (123), Minnesota&#8217;s Spencer Tollackson (118), OSU&#8217;s Matt Terwilliger (111).  Yes, this isn&#8217;t a science and BC&#8217;s (now the Nets&#8217; first-round pick) Sean Williams was 104, and new TrailBlazer Taurean Green was 105. Even borderline 1st round pick for next year&#8217;s draft, UT&#8217;s Chris Lofton was behind Rodney at 146!  Ironically, Afflalo, also of the 2004 class, was ranked 26th in the Rivals 150 that year.  The point is that Stuckey wasn&#8217;t highly touted coming out of high school.  </p>
<p>College scouts didn&#8217;t see anything special in a guy like Stuckey.  He only had offers from the schools in his home state, but when he chose Eastern Washington he ended up CARRYING the squad (no one even finished within 10 ppg of Rodney last season) his two years there.  To me, from this evidence, the guy apparently knows how to work hard to get past obstacles.  Long story short, I don&#8217;t see this injury posing a real mental or physical deterrent to the guy.  </p>
<p>On a funny note, Sheed touched on something I&#8217;ve rationalized as to why I&#8217;m such a proponent of allowing his emotional reactivity.  According to a McCosky article, Sheed was quoted Wednesday as saying &#8220;This game ain&#8217;t basketball anymore, it&#8217;s entertainment.  It&#8217;s starting to get like the WWF.&#8221;  I agree that it is entertainment, except that basketball will never quite get like wrestling since wrestlers suffer way more pain and have no offseason and their contests are blatantly fixed and most importantly since most avid wrestling fans (except for myself and my friends of course!) are morons.<br />
But if I didn&#8217;t get enjoyment out of Sheed&#8217;s antics I wouldn&#8217;t condone the guy getting $12 mil./year from us.  From my eyes, he definitely earns about $2-3 mil./year of his deal just for being funny.  Sorry for getting on a defending wrestling high horse there, but we have to admit that pretty much everyone loved when he bought a replica WWE World Heavyweight Title Belt for every member of the squad when we won the title.  Now we can all agree wrestling is good for at least something.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob G</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88809</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:20:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88809</guid>
		<description>That video is still horrible. And hi-larious.</description>
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		<title>By: Rob G</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88806</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 23:13:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88806</guid>
		<description>When you get knocked down the first seven times, you have another superstar (like Shaq) lift you up in his arms and cradle you until you're ready to go again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When you get knocked down the first seven times, you have another superstar (like Shaq) lift you up in his arms and cradle you until you&#8217;re ready to go again.</p>
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		<title>By: Fel</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88614</link>
		<dc:creator>Fel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 08:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88614</guid>
		<description>Can someone explain how you get up 8 times but only after getting knocked down 7? I have never understood that commercial.  

And yes watching him get pushed out in that wheelchair is comedy at its finest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can someone explain how you get up 8 times but only after getting knocked down 7? I have never understood that commercial.  </p>
<p>And yes watching him get pushed out in that wheelchair is comedy at its finest.</p>
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		<title>By: Diablo</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88482</link>
		<dc:creator>Diablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 00:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88482</guid>
		<description>That video is truelly messed up but funny. lol</description>
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		<title>By: Mike Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88417</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:18:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88417</guid>
		<description>nono, fall down 7 times, get wheeled off 8:
http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-03-02/fall-down-seven-get-wheeled-off-eight/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>nono, fall down 7 times, get wheeled off 8:<br />
<a href="http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-03-02/fall-down-seven-get-wheeled-off-eight/" rel="nofollow">http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-03-02/fall-down-seven-get-wheeled-off-eight/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88411</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 21:38:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88411</guid>
		<description>Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.  Or something like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fall down 7 times, stand up 8.  Or something like that.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Watson</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88388</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 18:50:28 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-10-26/rodney-stuckeys-injury-in-perspective/#comment-88388</guid>
		<description>For what it's worth, Stuckey seems to land on his feet when he draws fouls, unlike Wade, who often goes tumbling to the ground. I can see him still being tentative for a little bit, I'd imagine it'd wear off soon enough.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For what it&#8217;s worth, Stuckey seems to land on his feet when he draws fouls, unlike Wade, who often goes tumbling to the ground. I can see him still being tentative for a little bit, I&#8217;d imagine it&#8217;d wear off soon enough.</p>
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