Comments on: Rasheed talks, reporters listen, Stern responds

By: jbstork

jbstork — Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:08:07 +0000

Preach on brother Sheed.

By: Garrett

Garrett — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 22:54:50 +0000

“How about the time that Rip elbowed Lebron in the face after the play was over in Game 6?”

Yeah, that was awesome.

By: daduke

daduke — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 18:00:20 +0000

LOL, you guys are hilarious! You think the officiating was slanted completely to the Cavs. You guys are on something. How about the end of game 2 when Lebron got hacked during the last shot? Did the Cavs complain at the Press Conference afterward.

No.

They have class. They said they were a no excuses team. Not whiny Pistons who lead the league in technicals (again) yet had the fewest fouls called against them.

I could find as many anti-cavs fouls as you found anti-pistons. How about the time that Rip elbowed Lebron in the face after the play was over in Game 6?

The Cavs beat you guys fair and square. You could not guard Lebron and Larry and Eric Snow did a great job on Chauncey. You are whiny and lost!

By: 80cent

80cent — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 16:35:32 +0000

Well, Rasheed has some major evidence in the Western Conference. Just ask the Suns, who had Tim Donaghy helping the internationally boring Spurs, who were the real reason for the worst ratings of all time.

Last year, the NBA said, if a player is upstaging a ref, that is a technical foul. Tim Duncan laughs so hard he almost falls off the bench at a call and what does the league do? SUSPENDS THE REF! If you weren’t shocked by this then the league got what it wanted. It’s whitest black guy getting his way at all costs.

By: PistonsGirl4Life

PistonsGirl4Life — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 13:26:39 +0000

LB, pretty much. I mean again, Sheed DOES have a point… the officiating wasn’t very good. Otoh, the series is over and Detroit lost. Absolutely NOTHING is going to change that, least of all Sheed’s big fat mouth. If there’s anything to be upset about here at all it’s that Wallace probably just ensured himself 2 T’s and a walk to the dressing room the next time that officiating crew comes to town… really in the grand scheme of things, this is meaningless.

Ohad, I’d reply but again Babblefish didn’t give me enough English to understand what you just said. No really I am not being insulting I just don’t get your point. If it helps, I agree on the FT issue… it’s not just the 33 points they gave boobie, it’s how every guard on our team suddenly started laying 5 feet off him to avoid the driving contact foul… PROBABLY has alot to do with why Gibson kept raining 3’s vs us but couldn’t do it vs anyone else…. 5 extra feet and a tenative defender worried about giving up 3 FTs.

Again though, meaningless really in the grand scheme of things.. Cleveland was last year’s EC Champion. Now let’s see them hold onto it.

By: ohad

ohad — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 10:46:19 +0000

PG4L
sorry if you misunderstood but it was supposed to be “….getting superstar status, doing movies and rapping.”
which means that they are superstars and they show up in all kind of glitzy award ceremonies and they do a lot of non-basketball stuff that in the past noone did.
and a small thought on the FT issue…it’s not the points made off free throws, it’s the fouls you stick on the other teams that make the whole difference. a player in foul trouble won’t be half as aggressive on D and when you consider detroit to be one of the better defences around it can change the whole game.

By: LawyerBoy

LawyerBoy — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 02:20:28 +0000

We haven’t seen eye to eye on a lot lately, but I think PG4L has this one locked down and makes a compelling argument. I’m sold on every part. Not that this goes against anything PG4L said (I don’t believe she took a stance on this issue), but blaming officiating as a penultimate cause for loss is pretty weak sauce. Contributing cause and unfair? Fine, but if you’re that much better than the team you’re playing (as the goal is), you overcome that referee BS. Referees can give teams tons of unnecessary FTs, but they can’t make shots. I can’t think of it off hand, but I don’t remember a time in recent history where FTs made by a team accounted for more points than FGs made. Please feel free to correct me if there has been a time, especially recently, but it is most certainly a very rare event in the NBA if it’s ever happened.

By: JTL

JTL — Tue, 30 Oct 2007 01:58:40 +0000

I think it was the boring Spurs that killed the NBA Final TV rating, not Lebron. A lot more would have watched the finals if it was Suns vs. Cavs.

By: PDXPistonsFan

PDXPistonsFan — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:56:14 +0000

In other news, Minnessota owner Glen Taylor has decided that Flip Saunders was responsible for letting Chauncey go, for souring the team’s relationship with KG and Sprewell, for not changing the light bulb that blew in the visitor’s locker room, for forgetting to pick up his laundry from the cleaners, and for the dismal weather in Minnessota. Hey Taylor, it’s our job to blame Flip for an underachieving franchise now, not yours.

By: PistonsGirl4Life

PistonsGirl4Life — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 18:41:37 +0000

Shula, sure the officials didn’t drop the back 29 points of game 5 in for Lebron…. otoh, they did make Boobie Gibson an overnight sensation. Here are Gibson’s FTA and FT made stats by series last year:

In 4 games vs Washington 3 FTA 3 FTM
In 6 games vs NJ 2 FTA 1 FTM
In 4 games vs San Antonio 1 FTA 1 FTM
In 6 games vs Detroit 37 FTA 33 FTM

So basically either we were 10 times dirtier while covering Gibson than EVERY other team he played… or Sheed has a point.

As for who wanted what, well the League certainly isn’t saying but I do recall about a BAJILLION reporters going “Whew, another Spurs/Piston’s final would be SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO boring, now we have a chance to watch Lebron shine”. Of course these same reporters complained that watching Cleveland get emasculated in four straight was also, really boring.

Even with all that having been said however, I again ask… why is this even news? Sheed has a big mouth. Sheed feels victimized and sees himself as being oppressed…. this is new?

By: Matt C.

Matt C. — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:51:49 +0000

Of coarse being a Pistons fan makes me biased, but the calls against the Pistons in the eastern conference finals were awful. Our team got frustrated after so many BS calls and lost focus. It’s hard to keep your focus when no matter what you do the refs are calling the game for the other team. I was as frustrated as Sheed just watching the game.

With it coming out that all the refs are gamblers and Cleveland being the underdog makes Cleveland a good paying bet if they win. It wouldn’t surprise me at all if some of the refs were betting on Cleveland and officiating accordingly. Cleveland getting dominated by the Spurs as bad as they did doesn’t exactly make me buy the whole Cleveland outplayed us story. If the calls were a little more balanced the Pistons wouldn’t have got as frustrated, losing their focus.

We could have played better, but even just a few bad calls in a short period of time and I could see the WTF is going on here look in the Pistons faces.

By: Shula

Shula — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:51:26 +0000

If sheed thinks that the league can “fix” a guy dropping 48 in his grill, then i’m an NBA caliber baller! Are you kidding me? D-troit lost that series because LBJ single handedly kicked their a$$. How exactly does the league fix an and one dunk in your face, rasheed? I’m curious.

By: Kevin S.

Kevin S. — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 17:16:09 +0000

“We beat ourselves” is a meaningless statement. Composure and execution are a big part of playoff basketball, and the Cavs exhibited both, thereby outplaying us.

A team with five potent offensive weapons and three defenders who are among the best at their position should make it out of the EC, but that doesn’t mean that they weren’t outplayed if they do not.

By: PistonsGirl4Life

PistonsGirl4Life — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:41:43 +0000

As for Sheed, this is stupid. The fact that what he says is a LITTLE bit true is why everyone is freaking out. Nobody would be batting an eyelid otherwise because it’s a well known fact Sheed is A) crazy B) incapable of seeing his own faults and C) actively enjoys saying whack shit infront of a camera.

If you’re going to dismiss the guy as an irelevant loudmouth, why so much fuss over what he has to say? Stern handled it well (and I HATE that guy so it’s saying something that I could still see him playing the hand perfectly), it’ll be a dead story once real games are going.

By: PistonsGirl4Life

PistonsGirl4Life — Mon, 29 Oct 2007 16:38:54 +0000

Sadly I’m at work so I can’t be playing any of those sounds… however I want to assure you that my mind just exploded into 18 pieces when you said Tony Parker could rap. I mean please understand that because I can’t hear the songs I can’t disagree, but I can think of FEW players in the NBA with LESS Hip Hop Credibility than Tony Parker…. next thing you’re gonna tell me Darko is busting phat beats in Serbian.