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	<title>Comments on: Pistons travel to the eye of the Kobe storm</title>
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		<title>By: Quick Darshan</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-98156</link>
		<dc:creator>Quick Darshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Nov 2007 03:02:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Afflalo love is based on what we've seen and what we can expect in the future because of it.

Afflalo is already better than Delfino was last year.  He's always in the right spot.  He's got a good stroke.  He runs hard in transition which led to an AND1 in the first half (Kings game) and had a nice strong finish off a curl soon after.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Afflalo love is based on what we&#8217;ve seen and what we can expect in the future because of it.</p>
<p>Afflalo is already better than Delfino was last year.  He&#8217;s always in the right spot.  He&#8217;s got a good stroke.  He runs hard in transition which led to an AND1 in the first half (Kings game) and had a nice strong finish off a curl soon after.</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97989</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 19:52:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with LawyerBoy...  I don't really get all the Afflalo love.  To be honest I had no idea he was even on the court.  That's how much of an impact he had.  Although if you want to look at that in a positive light, at least I wasn't saying, "Damn you, Afflalo!" because he kept screwing up.  He played and I'm sure he did some stuff, but it didn't register with me for some reason.  Maybe because I spent the whole game going, "WHERE'S AMIR?!?  OKAY, WHO IS HE GUARDING NOW?!?  OMG LOOK AT THAT COURT AWARENESS!" (I'm kidding.  Kind of.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with LawyerBoy&#8230;  I don&#8217;t really get all the Afflalo love.  To be honest I had no idea he was even on the court.  That&#8217;s how much of an impact he had.  Although if you want to look at that in a positive light, at least I wasn&#8217;t saying, &#8220;Damn you, Afflalo!&#8221; because he kept screwing up.  He played and I&#8217;m sure he did some stuff, but it didn&#8217;t register with me for some reason.  Maybe because I spent the whole game going, &#8220;WHERE&#8217;S AMIR?!?  OKAY, WHO IS HE GUARDING NOW?!?  OMG LOOK AT THAT COURT AWARENESS!&#8221; (I&#8217;m kidding.  Kind of.)</p>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97948</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97948</guid>
		<description>More observations from being there live?  Rodney Stuckey is a hell of a dresser.  His blazer Friday was a thing of absolute beauty.  

Basketball related observations ... I thought that Amir had very encouraging on-the-ball defense.  Obviously Amir is a 20 year old kid who needs lot of seasoning and work, but I remember him D'ing up somebody tight on the 3 point line and he was sticking hands in the face and making it very uncomfortable for whichever Laker it was.  For a big to have that kind of instinct, to me it signals he was coached well somewhere along the way and/or he has confidence that he doesn't have to give up ground to prevent getting beat to the hoop on a drive.

If Samb comes along over the next couple of years in a manner similar to the way Maxiell has, I think he can be something useful, possibly something special.  I disagree with Darshan that we should send him to the NBDL.  I think he can benefit (and the team can benefit) more from and is capable of withstanding NBA burn if we ease him in like we did Friday.  As much as I've tried to make Nazr a victim, he has to rely on his strengths or develop new ones if he's going to make a case to me to get burn over Samb. While Nazr has veteran understanding, he was getting beat like he stole something by the athletic Lakers' bigs.  Samb looked lost quite a bit (as does Amir) like when Odom killed him on the ball-fake, but Samb looked unafraid.  We'll suffer from these two being young'ns if we have them both out there together, but I imagine Friday was an extenuating circumstance.  Samb challenged the Lakers in the post on both sides of the ball.  His touch is absolutely beautiful for any NBA player, let alone a man of his size.  He has all the makings of the shot-blocking impact we had from Ben, and tons more offense in a 7'1" package. 

I could go on and on (and seemingly I already have), but I do want to note that most people here seem to have been pretty impressed by Afflalo, and I just haven't seen it.  Nothing has stuck out for me about his D, and while his jumper looks nice, it hasn't been going down.  As for Hayes getting 20 mins ... I don't care if it's 10, 20 or 30, get the man a 3 year extension, NOW.  Tonight should be just fine, it's the injury-depleted Kings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More observations from being there live?  Rodney Stuckey is a hell of a dresser.  His blazer Friday was a thing of absolute beauty.  </p>
<p>Basketball related observations &#8230; I thought that Amir had very encouraging on-the-ball defense.  Obviously Amir is a 20 year old kid who needs lot of seasoning and work, but I remember him D&#8217;ing up somebody tight on the 3 point line and he was sticking hands in the face and making it very uncomfortable for whichever Laker it was.  For a big to have that kind of instinct, to me it signals he was coached well somewhere along the way and/or he has confidence that he doesn&#8217;t have to give up ground to prevent getting beat to the hoop on a drive.</p>
<p>If Samb comes along over the next couple of years in a manner similar to the way Maxiell has, I think he can be something useful, possibly something special.  I disagree with Darshan that we should send him to the NBDL.  I think he can benefit (and the team can benefit) more from and is capable of withstanding NBA burn if we ease him in like we did Friday.  As much as I&#8217;ve tried to make Nazr a victim, he has to rely on his strengths or develop new ones if he&#8217;s going to make a case to me to get burn over Samb. While Nazr has veteran understanding, he was getting beat like he stole something by the athletic Lakers&#8217; bigs.  Samb looked lost quite a bit (as does Amir) like when Odom killed him on the ball-fake, but Samb looked unafraid.  We&#8217;ll suffer from these two being young&#8217;ns if we have them both out there together, but I imagine Friday was an extenuating circumstance.  Samb challenged the Lakers in the post on both sides of the ball.  His touch is absolutely beautiful for any NBA player, let alone a man of his size.  He has all the makings of the shot-blocking impact we had from Ben, and tons more offense in a 7&#8242;1&#8243; package. </p>
<p>I could go on and on (and seemingly I already have), but I do want to note that most people here seem to have been pretty impressed by Afflalo, and I just haven&#8217;t seen it.  Nothing has stuck out for me about his D, and while his jumper looks nice, it hasn&#8217;t been going down.  As for Hayes getting 20 mins &#8230; I don&#8217;t care if it&#8217;s 10, 20 or 30, get the man a 3 year extension, NOW.  Tonight should be just fine, it&#8217;s the injury-depleted Kings.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt C.</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97944</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt C.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 18:22:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They have three 7 footers on the Kings, with Billups and McDyess out Amir and Nazr should get some good minutes. Samb too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They have three 7 footers on the Kings, with Billups and McDyess out Amir and Nazr should get some good minutes. Samb too.</p>
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		<title>By: E-Double</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97879</link>
		<dc:creator>E-Double</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 15:10:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97879</guid>
		<description>Thanks LawyerBoy for the Amir height update. Six rows off the floor at Staples...you lucky son of a gun :-) Last year I had a chance to sit 1st row behind the scorers table here in Atlanta. The game is a whole new experience from down there. From that vantage point, any insight you want to share from the game that us watching on TV wouldn't have caught? Anything in addition to our TV observations already mentioned? I agree, Nazr looked real bad, really really slow too. Maximus strugles against taller quick opponents and Tay struggles against guys his own size and maybe stronger: Odom, Deng, King James, etc. Totally agree that Rip is turning into Sheed Jr. and we can't have that. Start giving Afflalo more of his mins and soon Stuckey ever time he loses it and that will send a message. He needs to be held accountable before he becomes full blow Sheed. Flip Murray is what he is. I'm not going to crap on him but I do need someone to tell him he's not Allen Iverson with the killer crossover. Hell, he fakes himself out half the time. I need Hayes to somehow avg 20 mins a game. Even on nights when he may not shoot lights out he'll still rebound and hustle and I love that about him. He's one of those guys that can miss his first 10 shots and then drain a 3 right when you need it. I love him so far. Once all the pieces are in place can you imagine how effective our starters would be if they all averages more like 32 mins versus 37. I'm still excited though. I'd be totally stocked if they win tonight and finish this rough 10 game stretch at 7-3. Bless you Boys. Holla back LawyerBoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks LawyerBoy for the Amir height update. Six rows off the floor at Staples&#8230;you lucky son of a gun <img src='http://www.detroitbadboys.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> Last year I had a chance to sit 1st row behind the scorers table here in Atlanta. The game is a whole new experience from down there. From that vantage point, any insight you want to share from the game that us watching on TV wouldn&#8217;t have caught? Anything in addition to our TV observations already mentioned? I agree, Nazr looked real bad, really really slow too. Maximus strugles against taller quick opponents and Tay struggles against guys his own size and maybe stronger: Odom, Deng, King James, etc. Totally agree that Rip is turning into Sheed Jr. and we can&#8217;t have that. Start giving Afflalo more of his mins and soon Stuckey ever time he loses it and that will send a message. He needs to be held accountable before he becomes full blow Sheed. Flip Murray is what he is. I&#8217;m not going to crap on him but I do need someone to tell him he&#8217;s not Allen Iverson with the killer crossover. Hell, he fakes himself out half the time. I need Hayes to somehow avg 20 mins a game. Even on nights when he may not shoot lights out he&#8217;ll still rebound and hustle and I love that about him. He&#8217;s one of those guys that can miss his first 10 shots and then drain a 3 right when you need it. I love him so far. Once all the pieces are in place can you imagine how effective our starters would be if they all averages more like 32 mins versus 37. I&#8217;m still excited though. I&#8217;d be totally stocked if they win tonight and finish this rough 10 game stretch at 7-3. Bless you Boys. Holla back LawyerBoy.</p>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97842</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:31:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97842</guid>
		<description>jackdutch: i vividly remember the first incident you speak of and that's what i was calling a silly outburst, but i has no idea there was a second incident involving him tossing his warmups.  taking that into account now, i agree with you 100% on the accounts of both rip and sheed.  we've come to expect these outbursts regularly from sheed, but we have not come to expect this level of frequency from rip.  i wonder if something is going on with him, because i've found his play as a whole this year so far, rather underwhelming.  either way, they ought to stop acting like little kids, and sheed alone is enough to withstand.  we can't afford to have rip turn into sheed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>jackdutch: i vividly remember the first incident you speak of and that&#8217;s what i was calling a silly outburst, but i has no idea there was a second incident involving him tossing his warmups.  taking that into account now, i agree with you 100% on the accounts of both rip and sheed.  we&#8217;ve come to expect these outbursts regularly from sheed, but we have not come to expect this level of frequency from rip.  i wonder if something is going on with him, because i&#8217;ve found his play as a whole this year so far, rather underwhelming.  either way, they ought to stop acting like little kids, and sheed alone is enough to withstand.  we can&#8217;t afford to have rip turn into sheed.</p>
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		<title>By: joejoejoe</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97695</link>
		<dc:creator>joejoejoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 06:09:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>OT: NBA All Access stole your idea for a banner on their website.

http://www.nba.com/allaccess/nbaUserProfile.jsp</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>OT: NBA All Access stole your idea for a banner on their website.</p>
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		<title>By: jackdutch</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97693</link>
		<dc:creator>jackdutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 05:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97693</guid>
		<description>l-boy, from where i was sitting, i had a decent view of the pistons bench and was watching sheed pretty closely from shootaround on. rip's behavior was obvious, but sheed wasn't much better. he didn't get a tech, but i remember him getting a quick exit early and jawing the whole way off the court, and later he was arguing with ref derrick collins and chucked his warmup behind collin's back just as hard as rip threw his mask. i think if collins had seen it, it would have been a t. both of them start pouting like children when they don't get their way.  and it just stinks up team morale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>l-boy, from where i was sitting, i had a decent view of the pistons bench and was watching sheed pretty closely from shootaround on. rip&#8217;s behavior was obvious, but sheed wasn&#8217;t much better. he didn&#8217;t get a tech, but i remember him getting a quick exit early and jawing the whole way off the court, and later he was arguing with ref derrick collins and chucked his warmup behind collin&#8217;s back just as hard as rip threw his mask. i think if collins had seen it, it would have been a t. both of them start pouting like children when they don&#8217;t get their way.  and it just stinks up team morale.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97688</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 05:39:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On a side note, Ben Wallace just made a three pointer.</description>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97611</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 02:55:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97611</guid>
		<description>E-Double: I was sitting 6 rows off the floor last night across from the Stones bench.  I saw Amir standing straight up a few times during free throw situations.  I even asked a Lakers fan (casual, go figure) nearby me to offer his objective take.  We both independently concluded that Amir is 6'9".  I know we've HEARD all this 6'11" talk, but if Bynum is legit 7'0", then I refuse to believe Amir is 6'11".  It looked to me, at absolute BEST, that Amir was as tall as Odom (listed at 6'10), but more likely around half an inch shorter than Odom.  
As for Samb, he's usually listed at 7'1" (sometimes 7'2"), and he looked every bit of it to me.  And I agree with your assessment of his body that he didn't look rail thin, but he didn't look strongly built either.  Like QD, I'm a Nazr defender as well, but compared to Samb, and especially Amir, he's too immobile out there to guard guys like Bynum and Odom (whereas he could handle Kwame Brown).  If it's even a relatively athletic big man, Nazr's overmatched.  I wouldn't mind Samb or Amir taking minutes from him in those situations.

This is sorta off-topic, but has Sheed gotten a technical yet this year?  jackdutch mentioned Rip and Sheed's behavior last night, and truth be told I didn't see anything particularly disappointing from Sheed outside of one silly outburst that he walked away from unscathed (whereas Rip appears to me to have become emotionally destructive to the team lately), so that has me wondering if he has any Ts yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>E-Double: I was sitting 6 rows off the floor last night across from the Stones bench.  I saw Amir standing straight up a few times during free throw situations.  I even asked a Lakers fan (casual, go figure) nearby me to offer his objective take.  We both independently concluded that Amir is 6&#8242;9&#8243;.  I know we&#8217;ve HEARD all this 6&#8242;11&#8243; talk, but if Bynum is legit 7&#8242;0&#8243;, then I refuse to believe Amir is 6&#8242;11&#8243;.  It looked to me, at absolute BEST, that Amir was as tall as Odom (listed at 6&#8242;10), but more likely around half an inch shorter than Odom.<br />
As for Samb, he&#8217;s usually listed at 7&#8242;1&#8243; (sometimes 7&#8242;2&#8243;), and he looked every bit of it to me.  And I agree with your assessment of his body that he didn&#8217;t look rail thin, but he didn&#8217;t look strongly built either.  Like QD, I&#8217;m a Nazr defender as well, but compared to Samb, and especially Amir, he&#8217;s too immobile out there to guard guys like Bynum and Odom (whereas he could handle Kwame Brown).  If it&#8217;s even a relatively athletic big man, Nazr&#8217;s overmatched.  I wouldn&#8217;t mind Samb or Amir taking minutes from him in those situations.</p>
<p>This is sorta off-topic, but has Sheed gotten a technical yet this year?  jackdutch mentioned Rip and Sheed&#8217;s behavior last night, and truth be told I didn&#8217;t see anything particularly disappointing from Sheed outside of one silly outburst that he walked away from unscathed (whereas Rip appears to me to have become emotionally destructive to the team lately), so that has me wondering if he has any Ts yet.</p>
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		<title>By: joejoejoe</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97587</link>
		<dc:creator>joejoejoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 01:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97587</guid>
		<description>Here are the Pistons first 5 possessions coming out of the timeout with 8:33 left in the 4th Q with the score tied 72-72.

FG, TO, TO, TO, TO

Do that on the road and you're going to lose 9 times out of ten.

As for +/- scores Amir Johnson was +9, Afflalo +4, and Maxiell was -23.

http://www.nba.com/games/20071116/DETLAL/boxscore.html

My guess is Maxiell is less effective against taller, faster lineups due to issues involving court vision and peremiter shooting and the Lakers have a ton of players that are bad matchups for Max (Vlad Rad, Odom, Bynum) all of whom are good matchups for Amir. Afflalo has just flat earned more time with his hustle.

I'll defend Flip Murray a bit. ANY PG would be gassed in the 4th quarter playing the minutes that Murray played and while the long term effects aren't the same as with the starters fatigue still ended up costing the team last night. 

Not that I blame him but Hunter was awful last night with 2 asts. and 3 TOs in 7 minutes. Either make the guy a coach, give him regular playing time, or cut him. Hunter is not Steve Kerr where he's coming into the game to make a shot and can do it until he's 40 or Mutumbo where he's playing half court post defense and didn't get any shorter. He's an athletic, hard-nosed, reliable PG who needs to be playing with controlled intensity to succeed. Hunter can either ball at age 37 or he can't. If you have 41 minutes of trust in Flip Murray but only 7 minutes of trust in Lindsey Hunter with Billups and Stuckey out maybe it's time to put Hunter in a suit and tie as assistant coach and find somebody else to be your 4th PG.

Still, lots of long term positives in an exciting loss. I'm optimistic about this team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here are the Pistons first 5 possessions coming out of the timeout with 8:33 left in the 4th Q with the score tied 72-72.</p>
<p>FG, TO, TO, TO, TO</p>
<p>Do that on the road and you&#8217;re going to lose 9 times out of ten.</p>
<p>As for +/- scores Amir Johnson was +9, Afflalo +4, and Maxiell was -23.</p>
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<p>My guess is Maxiell is less effective against taller, faster lineups due to issues involving court vision and peremiter shooting and the Lakers have a ton of players that are bad matchups for Max (Vlad Rad, Odom, Bynum) all of whom are good matchups for Amir. Afflalo has just flat earned more time with his hustle.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll defend Flip Murray a bit. ANY PG would be gassed in the 4th quarter playing the minutes that Murray played and while the long term effects aren&#8217;t the same as with the starters fatigue still ended up costing the team last night. </p>
<p>Not that I blame him but Hunter was awful last night with 2 asts. and 3 TOs in 7 minutes. Either make the guy a coach, give him regular playing time, or cut him. Hunter is not Steve Kerr where he&#8217;s coming into the game to make a shot and can do it until he&#8217;s 40 or Mutumbo where he&#8217;s playing half court post defense and didn&#8217;t get any shorter. He&#8217;s an athletic, hard-nosed, reliable PG who needs to be playing with controlled intensity to succeed. Hunter can either ball at age 37 or he can&#8217;t. If you have 41 minutes of trust in Flip Murray but only 7 minutes of trust in Lindsey Hunter with Billups and Stuckey out maybe it&#8217;s time to put Hunter in a suit and tie as assistant coach and find somebody else to be your 4th PG.</p>
<p>Still, lots of long term positives in an exciting loss. I&#8217;m optimistic about this team.</p>
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		<title>By: jackdutch</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97551</link>
		<dc:creator>jackdutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Nov 2007 00:35:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i would like somebody (hint hint, matt) to dig up some +/- stats on the lakers game. i went and it seemed to me that saunders made some horrible substitutions in the 4th. specifically putting in lindsay and not keeping amir in instead of max. cheick played great. aside from the actual blocks, i think he scared the s--- out of a lot of jump shooters last night as he came running at them.

from the get-go though, we seemed like we were barely hanging on. kobe hadn't done anything through the 3rd and we were leading by 2. it was just a matter of time. and once the refs get into both rip and sheed's head, without chauncey around to pick up the slack, we are dead in the water. those two should know better especially last night. there was nobody else to shepherd the flock. completely selfish, a-hole behavior.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i would like somebody (hint hint, matt) to dig up some +/- stats on the lakers game. i went and it seemed to me that saunders made some horrible substitutions in the 4th. specifically putting in lindsay and not keeping amir in instead of max. cheick played great. aside from the actual blocks, i think he scared the s&#8212; out of a lot of jump shooters last night as he came running at them.</p>
<p>from the get-go though, we seemed like we were barely hanging on. kobe hadn&#8217;t done anything through the 3rd and we were leading by 2. it was just a matter of time. and once the refs get into both rip and sheed&#8217;s head, without chauncey around to pick up the slack, we are dead in the water. those two should know better especially last night. there was nobody else to shepherd the flock. completely selfish, a-hole behavior.</p>
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		<title>By: E-Double</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97534</link>
		<dc:creator>E-Double</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 23:19:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree QD, Amir didn't blow me away but he impressed me. Although Samb did blow me away because I had zero expectations of him. I just don't see the KG Jr. in Amir everyone else sees (admitting this was my 1st time seeing him play). Hopefully everyone is right though. Because of wack camera angles, I was never able to truly compare his height to anyone else on the floor. Did anyone ever clearly see Amir stand straight up next to another player who's height we know, in order to make a comparison? Samb is definately over 7 feet though. That's kid's a skyscraper and he didn't look malnurished to me. He could bulk up a little but previous reports I've seen on DBB made him still sound Tay thin. But he didn't look 'extremely' thin to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree QD, Amir didn&#8217;t blow me away but he impressed me. Although Samb did blow me away because I had zero expectations of him. I just don&#8217;t see the KG Jr. in Amir everyone else sees (admitting this was my 1st time seeing him play). Hopefully everyone is right though. Because of wack camera angles, I was never able to truly compare his height to anyone else on the floor. Did anyone ever clearly see Amir stand straight up next to another player who&#8217;s height we know, in order to make a comparison? Samb is definately over 7 feet though. That&#8217;s kid&#8217;s a skyscraper and he didn&#8217;t look malnurished to me. He could bulk up a little but previous reports I&#8217;ve seen on DBB made him still sound Tay thin. But he didn&#8217;t look &#8216;extremely&#8217; thin to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Quick Darshan</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97524</link>
		<dc:creator>Quick Darshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 22:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not only is Flip giving the bench a shot, they are earning it...

Afflalo played good defense and always seems to know where to go on offense.

Jarvis is such a huge upgrade of Delfino and Mo Evans (who is now on my shit list for his little dance after going over Rip's back)

Man, my hopes for Samb just doubled.  Before I was just hoping he would eventually develop (in two years) into a 6-12 minute/game backup center.  I still think we should send him to the D-League though.

Would have like to have seen Maxiell go at Brian Cook.  He would have destroyed him.

Flip looked gassed at the end of the game.

Amir doesn't blow me away like he does everyone else but he's got a good +/- these last two games.

Lindsay looked rusty.

I'm a Nazr defender but our biggest needs are a shot-blocker and a rebounder.  Amir can provide the former although he still needs to work on the latter (he gave up position way too many times).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not only is Flip giving the bench a shot, they are earning it&#8230;</p>
<p>Afflalo played good defense and always seems to know where to go on offense.</p>
<p>Jarvis is such a huge upgrade of Delfino and Mo Evans (who is now on my shit list for his little dance after going over Rip&#8217;s back)</p>
<p>Man, my hopes for Samb just doubled.  Before I was just hoping he would eventually develop (in two years) into a 6-12 minute/game backup center.  I still think we should send him to the D-League though.</p>
<p>Would have like to have seen Maxiell go at Brian Cook.  He would have destroyed him.</p>
<p>Flip looked gassed at the end of the game.</p>
<p>Amir doesn&#8217;t blow me away like he does everyone else but he&#8217;s got a good +/- these last two games.</p>
<p>Lindsay looked rusty.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m a Nazr defender but our biggest needs are a shot-blocker and a rebounder.  Amir can provide the former although he still needs to work on the latter (he gave up position way too many times).</p>
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		<title>By: E-Double</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97521</link>
		<dc:creator>E-Double</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Nov 2007 21:56:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-16/pistons-travel-to-the-eye-of-the-kobe-storm/#comment-97521</guid>
		<description>He didn't play horribly last night Garrett, but those damn out of control drives are wack. I must admit, Chauncey does know how to quarterback and control a game. Flip's stats may be good on a given nigh but he doesn't control the game like Chauncey. I wish someone would tell him he's not Iverson with that damn crossover. Iverson doesn't lose the ball on his crossover move 1/2 the time and then get to the hole and lose the ball there the other 1/2 the darn time. He just plays out of control. Chauncey could have his same exact stats 15 pts, 6 asst but have a much much much greater impact on the game. I guess I'm admitting I've underestimated Chauncey's slow footed ass. Defensively that is. He gets blown by as much as a sky scraper in Chicago. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>He didn&#8217;t play horribly last night Garrett, but those damn out of control drives are wack. I must admit, Chauncey does know how to quarterback and control a game. Flip&#8217;s stats may be good on a given nigh but he doesn&#8217;t control the game like Chauncey. I wish someone would tell him he&#8217;s not Iverson with that damn crossover. Iverson doesn&#8217;t lose the ball on his crossover move 1/2 the time and then get to the hole and lose the ball there the other 1/2 the darn time. He just plays out of control. Chauncey could have his same exact stats 15 pts, 6 asst but have a much much much greater impact on the game. I guess I&#8217;m admitting I&#8217;ve underestimated Chauncey&#8217;s slow footed ass. Defensively that is. He gets blown by as much as a sky scraper in Chicago.<br />
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