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	<title>Comments on: Premature evaluation: grading the Pistons 13 games in</title>
	<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/</link>
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		<title>By: Trever</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-103201</link>
		<dc:creator>Trever</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 17:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-103201</guid>
		<description>Rasheeds rating is fine, Since Antonio Mcdyess has stepped up on the offensive end, it leaves sheed wide open most of the time. What more do you expect from Jason Maxiell, Hes an explosive player. When you watch games, actually look and see who boxes out. Thier are 4 players i see you box out every play. Nazr, Jason, Tayshaun, and Antonio. Nazr has had double digit rebounding games in a lot of games this season. What more do you expect from a pure center in this league coming off the bench. I would like to question your expertise on how you grade these players.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rasheeds rating is fine, Since Antonio Mcdyess has stepped up on the offensive end, it leaves sheed wide open most of the time. What more do you expect from Jason Maxiell, Hes an explosive player. When you watch games, actually look and see who boxes out. Thier are 4 players i see you box out every play. Nazr, Jason, Tayshaun, and Antonio. Nazr has had double digit rebounding games in a lot of games this season. What more do you expect from a pure center in this league coming off the bench. I would like to question your expertise on how you grade these players.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-102304</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 20:01:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-102304</guid>
		<description>Keep up the good work Kevin S.  Too many people who post must leave to close to Dearbornistan and are afraid the neighbors may go Jihad on their asses!  Oh yeah, to keep this Pistonsish, Hayes at 3, Afflalo at the 2, Maxi playing the 4 will be a phenomenal lineup for the Pistons before the All-Star break, having Dyess or Sheed at 5 and anyone who can pass at the 1 is going to be an added bonus!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Keep up the good work Kevin S.  Too many people who post must leave to close to Dearbornistan and are afraid the neighbors may go Jihad on their asses!  Oh yeah, to keep this Pistonsish, Hayes at 3, Afflalo at the 2, Maxi playing the 4 will be a phenomenal lineup for the Pistons before the All-Star break, having Dyess or Sheed at 5 and anyone who can pass at the 1 is going to be an added bonus!</p>
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		<title>By: An early, early look at the Coach of the Year race &#124; Detroit Bad Boys</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-102129</link>
		<dc:creator>An early, early look at the Coach of the Year race &#124; Detroit Bad Boys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:53:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-102129</guid>
		<description>[...] pretty damn early to be having this conversation, but if we&#8217;re already grading the players, let&#8217;s take a look at the Coach of the Year race, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] pretty damn early to be having this conversation, but if we&#8217;re already grading the players, let&#8217;s take a look at the Coach of the Year race, [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Ohad</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-102022</link>
		<dc:creator>Ohad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:46:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-102022</guid>
		<description>brad,
do you know where i can watch the laker bullying incident you mentioned? i'd just love to see that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brad,<br />
do you know where i can watch the laker bullying incident you mentioned? i&#8217;d just love to see that.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin s.</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-102020</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 06:43:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-102020</guid>
		<description>"Why make a deliberate effort to link the two?"

Cause I'm making a joke.  I'll admit that it isn't particularly funny (call me a Bill Simmons wannabe), but I deny that there is any particular reason to find it offensive.  At best, you could argue that I am mocking the fact that he practices religion at all, but that is not my aim.  

Moreso, I am just making light of the various excuses we make for players who, in most instances, just don't bother to train in the offseason.    

I'd apologize, but it would be one of those  "I'm sorry you found this offensive" type of apologies that effectively amounts to a patronizing insult.  So I'll simply say that I can see your point, but respectfully disagree.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why make a deliberate effort to link the two?&#8221;</p>
<p>Cause I&#8217;m making a joke.  I&#8217;ll admit that it isn&#8217;t particularly funny (call me a Bill Simmons wannabe), but I deny that there is any particular reason to find it offensive.  At best, you could argue that I am mocking the fact that he practices religion at all, but that is not my aim.  </p>
<p>Moreso, I am just making light of the various excuses we make for players who, in most instances, just don&#8217;t bother to train in the offseason.    </p>
<p>I&#8217;d apologize, but it would be one of those  &#8220;I&#8217;m sorry you found this offensive&#8221; type of apologies that effectively amounts to a patronizing insult.  So I&#8217;ll simply say that I can see your point, but respectfully disagree.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101980</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 04:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101980</guid>
		<description>Sauce...  don't drink and post.  Or at least watch the games and check the player game logs before grading.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sauce&#8230;  don&#8217;t drink and post.  Or at least watch the games and check the player game logs before grading.</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101979</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 04:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101979</guid>
		<description>"Quick, while people are still talking about potential!!!1 Eat it, community."

Best line ever.  Sauce FTW.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Quick, while people are still talking about potential!!!1 Eat it, community.&#8221;</p>
<p>Best line ever.  Sauce FTW.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Gibson</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101971</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Gibson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 04:16:33 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101971</guid>
		<description>Flip gets a b+ from me since he got tossed for saying "Thats the first ****ing call you got right all day" to a ref and he played Samb and Amir together and not in a blowout</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Flip gets a b+ from me since he got tossed for saying &#8220;Thats the first ****ing call you got right all day&#8221; to a ref and he played Samb and Amir together and not in a blowout</p>
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		<title>By: abootalha</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101956</link>
		<dc:creator>abootalha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 03:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101956</guid>
		<description>Between Hakeem used to fast too. His production didn't go down and no Muslim is fasting Ramadhan these days (it finished couple of months ago)...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Between Hakeem used to fast too. His production didn&#8217;t go down and no Muslim is fasting Ramadhan these days (it finished couple of months ago)&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101930</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101930</guid>
		<description>I'm not a Pistons fan, but I just had to say that this post had a great title. It got me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not a Pistons fan, but I just had to say that this post had a great title. It got me.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt K</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101924</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 02:03:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101924</guid>
		<description>Kevin S wrote: "The religion comment would apply to any religion that requires fasting. The fasting hypothetically explains his relatively poor starts, but poor free throw shooting generally indicates a lack of practice. I’m criticizing his apparent lack of practice, not his religion."

Okay, so you say you're criticizing his lack of practice.  You say it's this lack of practice--not fasting--that is potentially causing his poor free throw shooting.  Yet you say the comment which equates his poor free throw shooting with his religion would apply to any religion that requires fasting.  How exactly does the religion comment apply when fasting for religious purposes is not, as you, yourself, suggest, the cause of his free throw shooting woes?  Why make a deliberate effort to link the two?

If you want to criticize him for shooting like crap from the free throw line, by all means, go right ahead.  (Frankly, I'd be standing right next to you, egging you on, because he most certainly has shot like crap from the free throw line and deserves the criticsm.)  I'm sure you can find a way to do it without taking an unnecessary poke at a man's religion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kevin S wrote: &#8220;The religion comment would apply to any religion that requires fasting. The fasting hypothetically explains his relatively poor starts, but poor free throw shooting generally indicates a lack of practice. I’m criticizing his apparent lack of practice, not his religion.&#8221;</p>
<p>Okay, so you say you&#8217;re criticizing his lack of practice.  You say it&#8217;s this lack of practice&#8211;not fasting&#8211;that is potentially causing his poor free throw shooting.  Yet you say the comment which equates his poor free throw shooting with his religion would apply to any religion that requires fasting.  How exactly does the religion comment apply when fasting for religious purposes is not, as you, yourself, suggest, the cause of his free throw shooting woes?  Why make a deliberate effort to link the two?</p>
<p>If you want to criticize him for shooting like crap from the free throw line, by all means, go right ahead.  (Frankly, I&#8217;d be standing right next to you, egging you on, because he most certainly has shot like crap from the free throw line and deserves the criticsm.)  I&#8217;m sure you can find a way to do it without taking an unnecessary poke at a man&#8217;s religion.</p>
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		<title>By: Quick Darshan</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101914</link>
		<dc:creator>Quick Darshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:43:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101914</guid>
		<description>Oh, and I think Flip Saunders is doing a great job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I think Flip Saunders is doing a great job.</p>
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		<title>By: Quick Darshan</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101913</link>
		<dc:creator>Quick Darshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:41:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101913</guid>
		<description>Billups - Running the offense well.  He's playing with focus even though he does look a step slow.

Hamilton - Needs to stay in the offense.  And shoot better at the line.  Like how he's finishing going to the basket though.  And he's shooting well from the 3pt line.

Prince - Really coming into his own.  I like the way Flip is separating his and Rip's minutes.

Sheed - Has been phenemonal.  I've been hard on him in the past but he's been everything we've needed.  The Team MVP so far.

Dyess - Moving him to the starting lineup was a move I hoped they'd do as soon as Ben Wallace left.  He and Sheed are really playing well together.

Stuckey - I think the Pistons are anticipating him being their best player coming off the bench.  If that's the case, we really haven't seen just how good this team can be.

Maxiell - Has improved his rebounding.  Looks comfortable on offense.  Not ready for the starting lineup yet.

Hayes - A great bench player.  Doesn't need to get into the flow of the game for his jumper to be effective.

Afflalo - Always in the right place.  Still needs work defensively against faster players.  And needs to expand his range.  When Stuckey comes back, I hope he's Rip's primary backup because I think have things figured out by the end of the year given the minutes.

Murray - If Rip or Chauncey get hurt, I like him in the starting lineup.  Otherwise, I'd rather see the youngsters in there.

Nazr - Good job on the boards and on-the-ball defense.  Needs to shoot better from the line.

Amir - I'm not sure what all the fuss is about.  Needs to work on his rebounding and defense so he can take Nazr's minutes.

Samb - Wow.  Has shown me more than Amir has.  Definitely has a place on the Pistons as (at least) a backup center of the future.

Hunter - Good insurance.

Dupree - Samb has moved ahead of him and Hunter, making Dupe the 15th man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Billups - Running the offense well.  He&#8217;s playing with focus even though he does look a step slow.</p>
<p>Hamilton - Needs to stay in the offense.  And shoot better at the line.  Like how he&#8217;s finishing going to the basket though.  And he&#8217;s shooting well from the 3pt line.</p>
<p>Prince - Really coming into his own.  I like the way Flip is separating his and Rip&#8217;s minutes.</p>
<p>Sheed - Has been phenemonal.  I&#8217;ve been hard on him in the past but he&#8217;s been everything we&#8217;ve needed.  The Team MVP so far.</p>
<p>Dyess - Moving him to the starting lineup was a move I hoped they&#8217;d do as soon as Ben Wallace left.  He and Sheed are really playing well together.</p>
<p>Stuckey - I think the Pistons are anticipating him being their best player coming off the bench.  If that&#8217;s the case, we really haven&#8217;t seen just how good this team can be.</p>
<p>Maxiell - Has improved his rebounding.  Looks comfortable on offense.  Not ready for the starting lineup yet.</p>
<p>Hayes - A great bench player.  Doesn&#8217;t need to get into the flow of the game for his jumper to be effective.</p>
<p>Afflalo - Always in the right place.  Still needs work defensively against faster players.  And needs to expand his range.  When Stuckey comes back, I hope he&#8217;s Rip&#8217;s primary backup because I think have things figured out by the end of the year given the minutes.</p>
<p>Murray - If Rip or Chauncey get hurt, I like him in the starting lineup.  Otherwise, I&#8217;d rather see the youngsters in there.</p>
<p>Nazr - Good job on the boards and on-the-ball defense.  Needs to shoot better from the line.</p>
<p>Amir - I&#8217;m not sure what all the fuss is about.  Needs to work on his rebounding and defense so he can take Nazr&#8217;s minutes.</p>
<p>Samb - Wow.  Has shown me more than Amir has.  Definitely has a place on the Pistons as (at least) a backup center of the future.</p>
<p>Hunter - Good insurance.</p>
<p>Dupree - Samb has moved ahead of him and Hunter, making Dupe the 15th man.</p>
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		<title>By: PistonsGirl4Life</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101912</link>
		<dc:creator>PistonsGirl4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 01:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101912</guid>
		<description>Sauce wins.  Also someone get him into rehab ASAP.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sauce wins.  Also someone get him into rehab ASAP.</p>
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		<title>By: Diablo</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101879</link>
		<dc:creator>Diablo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 00:49:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-11-27/premature-evaluations-grading-the-pistons-13-games-in/#comment-101879</guid>
		<description>I think Kevin S. is just about on point with his gradings. But from what i have seen from Afflalo hes played pretty well for a rookie, I would give him atleast a "C". And as for Amir I'm really not impressed by him (offensively) yet. I'm actually surprised he recieved something higher than a "C". 

But other than that, i would say that is some pretty accurate grading of our Piston roster after only 13 games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Kevin S. is just about on point with his gradings. But from what i have seen from Afflalo hes played pretty well for a rookie, I would give him atleast a &#8220;C&#8221;. And as for Amir I&#8217;m really not impressed by him (offensively) yet. I&#8217;m actually surprised he recieved something higher than a &#8220;C&#8221;. </p>
<p>But other than that, i would say that is some pretty accurate grading of our Piston roster after only 13 games.</p>
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