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	<title>Comments on: The Pistons are in New Jersey</title>
	<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/</link>
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		<title>By: PistonsGirl4Life</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111269</link>
		<dc:creator>PistonsGirl4Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 02:38:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111269</guid>
		<description>The freezing cold weather, this thread, this loss vs the Pistons, Christmas, the spousal abuse charges AND Jason Kidd's complete inability to hit the net are herebye declared "all part of" Kevin S's grand consipiarcy against Jason Kidd (and possibly Muslims.  Either way we're pretty sure Jason Kidd is about to "go jihad on their asses").

Just soasinyaknows.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The freezing cold weather, this thread, this loss vs the Pistons, Christmas, the spousal abuse charges AND Jason Kidd&#8217;s complete inability to hit the net are herebye declared &#8220;all part of&#8221; Kevin S&#8217;s grand consipiarcy against Jason Kidd (and possibly Muslims.  Either way we&#8217;re pretty sure Jason Kidd is about to &#8220;go jihad on their asses&#8221;).</p>
<p>Just soasinyaknows.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob G</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111237</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:48:51 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111237</guid>
		<description>You called it, Kevin - the greatest player in the history of the NBA, or any basketball league for that matter, is getting his props in the All Star votes.

All kidding aside, that is just pathetic. I can't even rationalize it. Oh, well. I always thought that 99% of the world is stupid as hell. Empirical proof just keeps piling up.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You called it, Kevin - the greatest player in the history of the NBA, or any basketball league for that matter, is getting his props in the All Star votes.</p>
<p>All kidding aside, that is just pathetic. I can&#8217;t even rationalize it. Oh, well. I always thought that 99% of the world is stupid as hell. Empirical proof just keeps piling up.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin s.</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111229</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 23:03:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111229</guid>
		<description>So, on the heels of his 0-8 masterpiece last night, Kidd is currently second among guards in all-star voting.  That, folks, is ridiculous.  He is being outplayed by Derek Fisher.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, on the heels of his 0-8 masterpiece last night, Kidd is currently second among guards in all-star voting.  That, folks, is ridiculous.  He is being outplayed by Derek Fisher.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin s.</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111191</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111191</guid>
		<description>Hayes has a history of poor shot selection, and is a historically poor shooter.  The hope was that expectations would cure the former, while the latter was the result of injury.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hayes has a history of poor shot selection, and is a historically poor shooter.  The hope was that expectations would cure the former, while the latter was the result of injury.</p>
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		<title>By: joejoejoe</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111182</link>
		<dc:creator>joejoejoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111182</guid>
		<description>Give Jarvis Hayes a chance. He's not being selfish by shooting from the SF position. That's his job on this team. Compare..

Mr. X, age 25 - 17.8 min, 7.7 pts, .496 eFG%, 2.4 ast, 1.4 to, 2.1 reb.
Mr. Y, age 26 - 18.1 min, 7.1 pts, .479 eFG%, 0.7 ast, 0.6 to, 2.7 reb.

Mr. X is Vinnie Johnson in his first season with Detroit. Mr. Y is Jarvis Hayes. Hayes doesn't move the ball as well as the Microwave but he's not a combo guard either. Hayes does do a decent job of not turning the ball over and rebounding from his position. Hayes is solid now and his future is bright in Detroit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give Jarvis Hayes a chance. He&#8217;s not being selfish by shooting from the SF position. That&#8217;s his job on this team. Compare..</p>
<p>Mr. X, age 25 - 17.8 min, 7.7 pts, .496 eFG%, 2.4 ast, 1.4 to, 2.1 reb.<br />
Mr. Y, age 26 - 18.1 min, 7.1 pts, .479 eFG%, 0.7 ast, 0.6 to, 2.7 reb.</p>
<p>Mr. X is Vinnie Johnson in his first season with Detroit. Mr. Y is Jarvis Hayes. Hayes doesn&#8217;t move the ball as well as the Microwave but he&#8217;s not a combo guard either. Hayes does do a decent job of not turning the ball over and rebounding from his position. Hayes is solid now and his future is bright in Detroit.</p>
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		<title>By: Bren</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111180</link>
		<dc:creator>Bren</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:01:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111180</guid>
		<description>Where's Hermann?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where&#8217;s Hermann?</p>
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		<title>By: Tbranch</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111179</link>
		<dc:creator>Tbranch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 18:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111179</guid>
		<description>Lawyer boy.

yeah, yer right.  It is premature to get down on Jarvis.  Things are just going so well for the Pistons right now that any little glitch stands out for me.  The tag on Hayes is inconsistency.  

Mostly I just don't want to see him fall into the desperation trap.  He has been getting good minutes and he is in sort of a slump (17/60 - 28.3% shooting since Dec 7th).  I want him to work out and now that Stuckey will be demanding some court time I feel desperate FOR Hayes.

Thanks for putting me back on an even keel.

I can't believe they counted that 3-ball be put after the buzzer last night... Nets fans must feel trod upon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lawyer boy.</p>
<p>yeah, yer right.  It is premature to get down on Jarvis.  Things are just going so well for the Pistons right now that any little glitch stands out for me.  The tag on Hayes is inconsistency.  </p>
<p>Mostly I just don&#8217;t want to see him fall into the desperation trap.  He has been getting good minutes and he is in sort of a slump (17/60 - 28.3% shooting since Dec 7th).  I want him to work out and now that Stuckey will be demanding some court time I feel desperate FOR Hayes.</p>
<p>Thanks for putting me back on an even keel.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe they counted that 3-ball be put after the buzzer last night&#8230; Nets fans must feel trod upon.</p>
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		<title>By: Rob G</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111162</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:00:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111162</guid>
		<description>The good news is, Jarvis is shooting 100% in three ball attempts after the shot clock has expired and when the refs haven't noticed. That's a rare stat to be the league leader in, but there he is...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The good news is, Jarvis is shooting 100% in three ball attempts after the shot clock has expired and when the refs haven&#8217;t noticed. That&#8217;s a rare stat to be the league leader in, but there he is&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111147</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:17:07 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111147</guid>
		<description>Tbranch, I think comparing Jarvis to Flip is a little premature in nature.  It seems to me that Jarvis's recent selfishness on the court stems from an obsession with getting out of the shooting slump he's been having.  The logic there being, the only way you can end the slump is to keep shooting and finally break it.  It doesn't stem from a lack of (or spotty) minutes, because he's averaging eighteen a night and has played in every single game this season.  And I truly don't think it stems from Flip Murray-like tendencies because Jarvis doesn't run the point and waste a ton of the shot clock with the ball in his hands so much as take bad shots when the ball comes to him.  Generally speaking, Flip also turns it over to the other team without even getting a shot off whereas Jarvis doesn't.  He just "oozes desperation" as you said, in terms of finding his rhythm again.

We were all praising Jarvis when the season started because he was hitting his shots and he was doing it within the team concept when he was getting open looks.  Now he seems to be trying to force it, but I think that's only because he's gone so cold.  He had five games in double figures in November but he hasn't had one since December 4th.  

I guess I'm trying to say it's been a tough month for him, but we all should have known this inconsistency was part of the deal when we got Jarvis.  I just don't think a comparison to Flip is fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tbranch, I think comparing Jarvis to Flip is a little premature in nature.  It seems to me that Jarvis&#8217;s recent selfishness on the court stems from an obsession with getting out of the shooting slump he&#8217;s been having.  The logic there being, the only way you can end the slump is to keep shooting and finally break it.  It doesn&#8217;t stem from a lack of (or spotty) minutes, because he&#8217;s averaging eighteen a night and has played in every single game this season.  And I truly don&#8217;t think it stems from Flip Murray-like tendencies because Jarvis doesn&#8217;t run the point and waste a ton of the shot clock with the ball in his hands so much as take bad shots when the ball comes to him.  Generally speaking, Flip also turns it over to the other team without even getting a shot off whereas Jarvis doesn&#8217;t.  He just &#8220;oozes desperation&#8221; as you said, in terms of finding his rhythm again.</p>
<p>We were all praising Jarvis when the season started because he was hitting his shots and he was doing it within the team concept when he was getting open looks.  Now he seems to be trying to force it, but I think that&#8217;s only because he&#8217;s gone so cold.  He had five games in double figures in November but he hasn&#8217;t had one since December 4th.  </p>
<p>I guess I&#8217;m trying to say it&#8217;s been a tough month for him, but we all should have known this inconsistency was part of the deal when we got Jarvis.  I just don&#8217;t think a comparison to Flip is fair.</p>
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		<title>By: Tbranch</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111119</link>
		<dc:creator>Tbranch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 12:01:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111119</guid>
		<description>I also heard the "Maxiel is angry" comment from the announcers and started laughing.  

Next time you want to watch the game, try channelsurfing.net
Just scroll down till you see the game you want.
No special plug-ins or anything.  They seem to always have all the games and one link lasts all night.

Also, Hayes is starting to turn into a Flip Murray clone.  Rampant ball-hoggishness coupled with poor decision making.  I guess it's tough when you only get a few minutes here and there and still want to prove you can start but Jarvis just oozes desperation.  

So far Afflallo, Amir, and Hunter use their limited minutes to contribute as team players while Hayes and Murray are completely "me first" when on the court.  Stuckey is a little in between.  Even Brezec plays his role and doesn't think he's going to impress his way into a starting job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also heard the &#8220;Maxiel is angry&#8221; comment from the announcers and started laughing.  </p>
<p>Next time you want to watch the game, try channelsurfing.net<br />
Just scroll down till you see the game you want.<br />
No special plug-ins or anything.  They seem to always have all the games and one link lasts all night.</p>
<p>Also, Hayes is starting to turn into a Flip Murray clone.  Rampant ball-hoggishness coupled with poor decision making.  I guess it&#8217;s tough when you only get a few minutes here and there and still want to prove you can start but Jarvis just oozes desperation.  </p>
<p>So far Afflallo, Amir, and Hunter use their limited minutes to contribute as team players while Hayes and Murray are completely &#8220;me first&#8221; when on the court.  Stuckey is a little in between.  Even Brezec plays his role and doesn&#8217;t think he&#8217;s going to impress his way into a starting job.</p>
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		<title>By: IsraeliPiston</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111111</link>
		<dc:creator>IsraeliPiston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 11:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111111</guid>
		<description>What is nice about the Pistons is that they can still get even better - either Hayes' shot will start to fall or Herrmann or even SpellCheck will get his minutes

Stuckey needs a little more time and then watch out!!

Tay still has not really found his shot either</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is nice about the Pistons is that they can still get even better - either Hayes&#8217; shot will start to fall or Herrmann or even SpellCheck will get his minutes</p>
<p>Stuckey needs a little more time and then watch out!!</p>
<p>Tay still has not really found his shot either</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111082</link>
		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111082</guid>
		<description>There is a reason Brezec looked like a doofus... he is. He's 7 though. Even we everyone talked about maxiel loosin 20 I was excited, butt I had no idea. I mean who can loose 20 in an off season and improve that much. nice job kid. Our team is one of the best in the league. As for the Nets... can't agree more, i used to curse them, don't really care just laugh now. I hate the cavs, the bulls, and the heat. They all suck, but at least they have some sort of a shot. Man the Nets miss Kristic. It seems like the east is between us and Boston and I agtree. Bulls still have talent, Cavs have lebron... Pistons should win the east. I am not to afraid to say that is the worst we should do. Can we sign extend Joe D's contract Right now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a reason Brezec looked like a doofus&#8230; he is. He&#8217;s 7 though. Even we everyone talked about maxiel loosin 20 I was excited, butt I had no idea. I mean who can loose 20 in an off season and improve that much. nice job kid. Our team is one of the best in the league. As for the Nets&#8230; can&#8217;t agree more, i used to curse them, don&#8217;t really care just laugh now. I hate the cavs, the bulls, and the heat. They all suck, but at least they have some sort of a shot. Man the Nets miss Kristic. It seems like the east is between us and Boston and I agtree. Bulls still have talent, Cavs have lebron&#8230; Pistons should win the east. I am not to afraid to say that is the worst we should do. Can we sign extend Joe D&#8217;s contract Right now?</p>
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		<title>By: joejoejoe</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111052</link>
		<dc:creator>joejoejoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 06:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111052</guid>
		<description>Nice road win against a once-decent Nets team. No starter played more than 34 minutes and both Afflalo and Stuckey got a few minutes. Detroit  has quietly compiled the second best record in basketball and beat the team with the best record on their home court. Life is good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice road win against a once-decent Nets team. No starter played more than 34 minutes and both Afflalo and Stuckey got a few minutes. Detroit  has quietly compiled the second best record in basketball and beat the team with the best record on their home court. Life is good.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex K</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111011</link>
		<dc:creator>Alex K</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 04:01:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111011</guid>
		<description>I was at the game... and damn, this was awesome, awesome to watch! Here are some observations:

- Nets really, really need somebody good in the front.
- That somebody could really be Sean Williams one day. That kid's got potential.
- Stuckey is RELENTLESS. He kept driving and driving to the basket. I think he could easily be the next Dwyane Wade, only with Detroit mentality. Now that's a scary thought.
- The crowd gave up on the Nets early. They really need to move to Brooklyn, as soon as possible.
- Billups completely outplayed Kidd.
- Maxiell = MONSTER!!!
- I would've really loved more time for Amir, but alas, nothing can be perfect.
- Brezec looks like a giant doofus.

Surprisingly, there were quite a few Detroit fans in attendance. Funniest comment of the night came from a little kid behind me midway through the fourth quarter: "That's it, I'm rooting for the Pistons now!". I think that pretty much sums it up :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was at the game&#8230; and damn, this was awesome, awesome to watch! Here are some observations:</p>
<p>- Nets really, really need somebody good in the front.<br />
- That somebody could really be Sean Williams one day. That kid&#8217;s got potential.<br />
- Stuckey is RELENTLESS. He kept driving and driving to the basket. I think he could easily be the next Dwyane Wade, only with Detroit mentality. Now that&#8217;s a scary thought.<br />
- The crowd gave up on the Nets early. They really need to move to Brooklyn, as soon as possible.<br />
- Billups completely outplayed Kidd.<br />
- Maxiell = MONSTER!!!<br />
- I would&#8217;ve really loved more time for Amir, but alas, nothing can be perfect.<br />
- Brezec looks like a giant doofus.</p>
<p>Surprisingly, there were quite a few Detroit fans in attendance. Funniest comment of the night came from a little kid behind me midway through the fourth quarter: &#8220;That&#8217;s it, I&#8217;m rooting for the Pistons now!&#8221;. I think that pretty much sums it up <img src='http://www.detroitbadboys.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Rob G</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111007</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2007 03:48:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2007-12-26/the-pistons-are-in-new-jersey/#comment-111007</guid>
		<description>Ian Eagle had some good quotes:

"Jason Maxiell. Wow. He is angry!"

and, my favorite:

"Are you familiar with the rap artist 50 Cent? Do you see a little of that in Stuckey?"

Wow. Those are priceless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ian Eagle had some good quotes:</p>
<p>&#8220;Jason Maxiell. Wow. He is angry!&#8221;</p>
<p>and, my favorite:</p>
<p>&#8220;Are you familiar with the rap artist 50 Cent? Do you see a little of that in Stuckey?&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow. Those are priceless.</p>
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