Pistons-Celtics, Round II

Tonight’s match with the Celtics isn’t a playoff game, but judging how the first game went down, I won’t be surprised if it feels like one. I’ll be at the game for HOOPSWORLD with pre-game, halftime and post-game posts.

As usual, leave your thoughts about the game in the comments.

Update: I didn’t get nearly as much stuff up as I wanted to before the game and during halftime, but I wrote a fair amount after the game (and as a result it was posted a bit later than usual). Just thought I’d point that out, in case you looked immediately after the game and didn’t see anything.

262 Responses to “Pistons-Celtics, Round II”


  1. 1 Matt C.

    Here’s what Rob Peterson on NBA.com has to say about tonights Celtics game.

    “One thing everyone can agree upon, however, is Saturday night’s game in Auburn Hills will be one of the best regular-season matchups in NBA history.

    Watch not because you want to, but because you need to see history in the making. Watch because it will be the NBA at its highest level. Watch because you owe it to yourself.”

  2. 2 LawyerBoy

    Over/under on Kendrick Perkins points: 6

    I’m tempted to go all Michael Wilbon and push, but I’m going to actually go over and say 7. I’m wondering if he can top his performance from last night against the Grizz and get called TWICE for offensive goaltending.

  3. 3 wolf blitzer

    I’m looking for our bench to open this game up in the 2nd quarter-

    Team in green going home with an L,
    ‘Stones winstreak continues.

    p.s. Early Prediction, Mike Abdenour: 9-10 FG, 5-5 FTA-M, 1-1 3PFGA-M, 17 RB, 3 BLK, 2 STL, 0 TO, 6 PF, 46 MIN.

  4. 4 Keegan

    Hot Tip: As of right now (Saturday at 6), the Pistons.com site has the Karate Kid theme blaring during its Flash intro.
    Go amp yourself up now!

    Best. Franchise. Ever.

  5. 5 Keegan

    I’ll take the under. 2 FGs, 1 FT.

  6. 6 Rob G

    Perkisachump.

    Where’s our boy from that other blog? You know, the one who does the goofy rhymes?

  7. 7 waltonlikesmen1

    Someone should tap Rob Peterson on the shoulder and tell him that the NBA neglected to make sure this game was nationally televised.

    “watch because you owe it to yourself”…Damn! If the internet link I found for this game doesn’t work out, that line will really feel like a slap in the face to a fan that’s unable to view the game.

    If this game lives up to expectations and I don’t see it…well, David Stern, like Dave Chapelle says, “Bitch, I’ll never forgive you for this!”

  8. 8 Docta

    hey walton, what link are you using? I’m out of town right now and upset that I’m going to have to miss this game :S

  9. 9 Steve

    It’s days like this I am glad my Slingbox up in Metro Detroit is currently piping TV20 into my tv down here in Ohio.

    This is gonna be one heckuva game tonight!

  10. 10 Garrett

    Keegan: Ha! You’re the best…! Arooooound…! Nice. Kudos to the Pistons site manager person.

    And I hope this Channel Surfing thing works. As of right now, I get a message saying, “The league pass game you have currently chosen is NOT available live.” WTF, league. WTF.

  11. 11 Garrett

    Oooo, channelsurfing.net is working! Time to get some popcorn.

  12. 12 Quick Darshan

    I actually think the Celtics will take this game. It means more to them and they will come out with a lot of intensity.

    Should be a good game though. Any thoughts on what’s better? Getting the First seed and playing Cleveland in the Second Round or Having the Second seed and not having home court advantage in the EC Finals?

  13. 13 Gogol

    Just look at the last 5 years. 2 years we’re the 2 seed, NBA Finals. 3 years we’re the 1 seed, bounced in ECF. We should be glad Boston’s come along

  14. 14 Mike Payne

    Here we go, boys and girls, lets give those green bastards hell.

  15. 15 Mike Payne

    and we’ve got Boston coverage on League Pass. Dammit…

  16. 16 Boney

    I’m going to add another thing to the list of things I don’t like in the NBA…

    the fact that Tommy Heinsohn is an announcer. could this f-stick be anymore annoying?

  17. 17 kevin s.

    I’ve got the game working! I feel like I just won a free monkey! Wow, this Heinsohn guy is kind of a dimwit. He reminds me of John Madden after a stroke.

  18. 18 Garrett

    I hope the fans at the Palace blow the roof off.

  19. 19 abootalhaa

    http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=4270&part=sports

    I watch it on soapcast using Chinese T.V, no commentary but I can do.

  20. 20 kevin s.

    Rasheed Wallace just touched Ray Allen’s butt…

  21. 21 Dash Rick

    does anyone have channelsurfing.net working for this game?

  22. 22 Dash Rick

    got it! here we go…

  23. 23 LawyerBoy

    Whenever Chauncey puts up a three like that, all I can think is “hubris”, but when it goes in, all is forgiven.

    Kendrick Perkins, really?

  24. 24 Steve

    I guess Perkins better not touch the ball again tonight… eek

  25. 25 waltonlikesmen1

    nope

  26. 26 kevin s.

    See, here’s the thing. Teams play Boston like they have three of all-time legends playing for them. Perkins and Rondo are going to make wide open shots close to the basket. Allen and Pierce are not hall of famers. Just man up and play D.

  27. 27 Garrett

    According to Tommy H the only difference between the Pistons and the Celtics is maturity. That’s it. Other than maturity they are exactly the same, you know.

  28. 28 Garrett

    Maxiell just ate a baby on a nice pick and roll from Billups.

  29. 29 Steve

    Babies eaten!

  30. 30 Steve

    Mmmm love how Maxey brings the energy!

    And he knocks Garnett out on fouls - go Max!

  31. 31 LawyerBoy

    Kevin, I dunno man, that’s kinda cold to shut Allen and Pierce out like that.

    Maxiell becomes China’s official ambassador to infant overpopulation control with that dunk.

  32. 32 Garrett

    And then Maxiell comes back and takes a charge from Garnett!

  33. 33 Steve

    Babies, Babies, Babies!!!

  34. 34 kevin s.

    I suppose Allen could work his way in by busting the three-point records.

    Two on Garnett.

  35. 35 Mike Payne

    MaxiellIsABeast. 2 babies.

  36. 36 LawyerBoy

    Apparently Maxiell read that HoopsWorld column about our bench. He was not amused. Babies across the world are trembling in fear as a result.

  37. 37 Garrett

    Ha ha! “Rondo… no foul… but he did end up getting BLOODY!”

  38. 38 kevin s.

    Rajon Rondo looks like Boobie Gibson. Just FYI.

  39. 39 waltonlikesmen1

    Well, I don’t get to watch, so as I might as well try to keep up by following along here.

    So do both teams look good? Bad? One look good, the other bad?

  40. 40 kevin s.

    Walton, you have Mediaplayer 11, yes? And you’ve downloaded what Channelsurfing wants you to, and you are in IE?

    If so, keep trying. It should work.

  41. 41 Garrett

    Detroit is looking sharp. Boston is looking tentative. Maxiell is looking like Charles Barkley 3000.

  42. 42 Steve

    Boston started out good, led 10-3… Dyess got 2 quick fouls, Maxey came in and brought the energy and drew an off. foul on Garnett to give him #2… we’ve brought it to 10-9 now.

  43. 43 Garrett

    And yet the Celtics have a 1-point lead. Weird.

  44. 44 LawyerBoy

    We’ve got to feel good about Perkins being their star thus far, right?

  45. 45 waltonlikesmen1

    sounds like if garnett’s out, this is a stretch to try to get a little cushion

  46. 46 Steve

    “Charles Barkley 3000″ … love it

  47. 47 Docta

    My feed works! (knock on wood) haha rondo with a missed layup

  48. 48 waltonlikesmen1

    Everytime I try to click the link on channelsurfing.net, the pop-up comes up for half a second, disappears, and then a script error notice pops up saying that the call did not execute, etc…

    Anyone know what that might be about?
    If not, thanks for the tips before, just gotta send good vibes Detroit’s way I guess.

  49. 49 LawyerBoy

    Rondo misses a layup. Rip comes back and drops a mid-range. Boston seems to be lost without KG. Another Boston TO and a Rip-Tayshaun oop. Missed open mid-range for Rondo. Apparently there’s a lid on the rim on Boston’s end.

  50. 50 Garrett

    And so it begins. Tommy just started to say how “physical” Detroit is on the defensive end, but his thought about how they’ve been getting away with stuff was interrupted when he tried to accuse Rip Hamilton of palming the ball.

  51. 51 LawyerBoy

    My friend says that each Boston player should have to wear a bandage by game’s end (Rondo and Garnett already sporting them). Sheed abuses Perk for a short jumper. Heinsohn’s dumbass screaming “Finally” after a Hamilton foul call. He’s like the verbal equivalent of a flop.

  52. 52 Garrett

    Hamilton was just playing some crazy pesky defense on Tony Allen as he tried to dribble across half-court like an 8th grader, and he got called for a bump and Tommy yelled, “FINALLY! FINALLY! FINALLY!” as if Detroit has never been called for a foul in the history of the NBA.

  53. 53 Steve

    Lookin good, lookin good… you can’t say enough how much important energy Maxey brings to us… Sixth Man of the Year!

  54. 54 kevin s.

    Wow, a political ad. Minnesotans don’t know what those look like, since our primary is irrelevant.

    Go McCain.

  55. 55 waltonlikesmen1

    Is it really 17-10 with 2:00 left in the 1st?

  56. 56 LawyerBoy

    17 unanswered points, not bad.

  57. 57 Steve

    Sheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeed!

  58. 58 LawyerBoy

    22-12, 44.1 left, WLM1.

  59. 59 waltonlikesmen1

    thanks

  60. 60 LawyerBoy

    same score, end of quarter

  61. 61 Garrett

    Tony Allen’s jumper is ugly. He hitches it back like a catapult. Good to see Stuckey get some minutes right away, and the Boston commentator called him, “the Piston’s outstanding rookie”. Yay!

  62. 62 Steve

    19-2 run in that quarter… nice!

  63. 63 kevin s.

    The post 1st quarter spin: “The Pistons have expended a lot of energy.”

    Nice.

  64. 64 Steve

    Boston sports commentators, how I despise thee.

  65. 65 waltonlikesmen1

    DAMN! If only the score was even before that run! Still, sounds like Detroit came ready to play, let’s hope the passion is there all night.

  66. 66 Kyl

    LET US ALL PRAISE JASON OF THE MAXIELL, EATER OF BABIES!!! THE CELTICS ARE NOTHING UNDER HIS HUNGRY GAZE…

  67. 67 Matt C.

    I was a little worried at first when we were down 3-10, but to go up to a 22-12 lead from that had to shake Bostons confidence. Nice first quarter comeback. In the time we went from 3 to 22 points, Boston scored 2 points, ouch.

  68. 68 waltonlikesmen1

    so we held them to 2 points for like 7+ minutes?

  69. 69 Garrett

    Afflalo sighting in at the start of the 2nd.

  70. 70 Garrett

    Oooo, burn: “Detroit celebrating their 50th year as a team… although we’re nowhere NEAR Detroit. *chuckle* We’re, like, 45 minutes away or something…”

  71. 71 LawyerBoy

    “We’re nowhere near the city of Detroit”, funny joke Boston commentators. Bite me. At least Baby Eater made 2 straight FTs. It’s been a minute since I’ve seen him do that.

  72. 72 Gogol

    No matter how well our Rookies play, seeing Chauncey and Rip on the bench will always make me a little uneasy.

  73. 73 kevin s.

    Suddenly the refs have decided they’d like to determine the outcome of the game.

  74. 74 LawyerBoy

    Maxiell is unconscious. Not quite in a rugged baby-devouring manner, but man is he just owning them.

  75. 75 kevin s.

    Holy crap, Maxiell…

  76. 76 Brad

    Boston…. the three headed punching bag.

  77. 77 Garrett

    Man, these commentators crack me up. Tommy thought he could make a point about how lopsided the reffing has been:

    Tommy: How many fouls on the Celts?
    Other guy: 8.
    Tommy: *chuckles* And how many on Detroit?
    Other guy: 4.
    Tommy: *silent*

  78. 78 waltonlikesmen1

    What about the refs? Please don’t tell me they’re going to make those little ticky-tacky calls that slow a team’s momentum. Please don’t tell me it looks that might be a possibility tonight.

  79. 79 Quick Darshan

    Rookies look rattled.

  80. 80 kevin s.

    Maxiell is the Speedy Oil Change of the Game

  81. 81 waltonlikesmen1

    Is Lindsey Hunter active tonight?

  82. 82 Boney

    let’s hope the women of auburn hills have put their children to bed… maxiell is on the prowl

  83. 83 Steve

    Good learning experience… might be one of the best chances we have to give it to the rooks before playoff time.

  84. 84 Steve

    He just stole KG’s babies… impressive!

  85. 85 Quick Darshan

    Garnett’s soft. He doesn’t want to step to Max.

  86. 86 Steve

    Ok that was just too official’s handing the game to Boston-ish.

  87. 87 Quick Darshan

    Rip’s trying to do to much.

  88. 88 Garrett

    Garnett THOUGHT he wanted some Maxiell, until Max actually turned around and was like, “Excuse me, kind sir, but did you say something to me?”

  89. 89 kevin s.

    New slogan for the Celtics - “The Fragile Winners”.

    The John Kerry of basketball teams, they.

  90. 90 Garrett

    Jarvis Hayes is shaped like (and moves like) Vince Carter.

  91. 91 Steve

    Jason is almost single-handedly playing this game for us right now!

  92. 92 kevin s.

    Primoz Brezec? Seriously?

  93. 93 Quick Darshan

    Maxiell needs a rest. And McDyess has 3 fouls. Brezec matches up well with Perkins.

  94. 94 Garrett

    Brezec just fought Garnett for a rebound, and made Garnett pick up his 3rd foul. Nicely done, Accessorized One.

  95. 95 Garrett

    Tommy is speechless! Ha!

  96. 96 Quick Darshan

    Glen Davis looks like a keeper. Much better pro than I thought he’d be.

  97. 97 waltonlikesmen1

    Doesn’t sound like the 2nd is going very well?

  98. 98 Kyl

    big ass ups to the gangsta of many accesories

  99. 99 kevin s.

    My word, they have gotten every single batted ball.

  100. 100 Quick Darshan

    Up two at the half. What a physical game! This is definitely a playoff vibe.

  101. 101 waltonlikesmen1

    thoughts at the half?

  102. 102 Steve

    Halftime:
    - Exactly like we expected from both teams, solid defense and relatively low scoring. We had a serious run to open things up and take charge in the first but Boston slowly chipped away in the second and it’s 43-41 at the half.
    - Balanced scoring for the most part, led by The Baby Eater (12 points) who threw it down with reckless abandon while playing seriously solid defense. Sheed’s got 9, Tay has 7, Rip’s got 6 and seems to be forcing shots, Chauncey’s got 5, and Stuckey and Jarvis with 2 each.

  103. 103 Kyl

    jarvis and rip are pretty cold. jarvis is having trouble just getting a shot off and rip is trying too hard to force a move with the ball instead of before he gets it.

  104. 104 waltonlikesmen1

    Sounds like Detroit needs to take advantage of the homecourt and open the third with a run.

  105. 105 Steve

    If recent history serves us well, the third is ours. Tho I doubt we’ll see any sort of super domination against Boston.

  106. 106 Kyl

    great game, maxiell and a key play by primoz brezec were the highlights for me. maxiell sparked and was the bulk of a huge run in the first quarter and primoz came in for a handful of plays and drew garnett’s 3′rd foul (maxy drew the other too, boosh!), garnett’s been out most of the game and we’ve pretty much dominated when he was gone.

    oh and hearing another team’s announcers bitch because they’re losing is really not enjoyable to listen too.

  107. 107 Jason

    I woulda loved to see Max smack KG around. Reminded me of how KG was running backwards away from Mcdyess after shoving him. Acts all hard but the minute someone says something back to him he runs.

  108. 108 Kyl

    if we can keep garnett off the floor we can dominate, he is the only one out of all of them that i fear.

  109. 109 Forty

    Thoughts on first half:

    Lots of loose balls bouncing Boston’s way that lead to bad things…Allen three comes to mind.

    Boston announcers ridiculous

    Prince should play every minute that Pierce does…we’d be up 5 or more if he had stayed in.

    You have to let Stuckey drive, Flip!

    God I love Jason Maxiell.

    In a way, more positives for Boston than us. We should be up more right now. That said, if Garnett picks up a cheapie early in the third, they’re screwed.

  110. 110 Forty

    Also, House is a great fit for them. And I echo that Davis looks like a keeper. A lot different than his “two pumps and done” in Boston.

    And I live in Boston, so I’m glad you guys have to put up with this Boston announcer bullshit too haha. I would be pissed if you all got to listen to Kelser and I had to hear about Tommy points.

  111. 111 Gogol

    Hopefully Lindsay the Headhunter’s active, so we can get some strong pressure D like last time.

  112. 112 waltonlikesmen1

    Detroit can’t hope for KG to be out any longer, they need to be able to extend the lead while he’s in the game. If they’re able to do that, it’s a great sign that we’ll be able to beat this team in the playoffs.

  113. 113 Quick Darshan

    I don’t know about the Boston announcers, but the Detroit broadcast is torturing us at halftime with a look at the 87 series and Bird’s late game steal.

    Stuckey’s a little out of control but the kid is fearless. Hit a big pull up jumper with the clock running down.

    I like Brezec. He’s got no lateral quickness but he’s not afraid to mix it up. He’s really taking to this whole Piston thing.

  114. 114 Kyl

    i was just thinking it would be nice to have lindsey come out and cause some havoc, goodbye amir?

  115. 115 Forty

    Dunno if anyone saw, but the little montage right before the half on the Boston broadcast clearly showed Garnett say something to Maxiell, followed by Maxiell becoming irate. So the chain of events was 1. Garnett swings around and stares down Maxiell. 2. Garnett says something. 3. Maxiell says something. Good decision by refs to T Max up and not KG though…when in doubt, assume it’s all one player’s fault I always say.

  116. 116 Quick Darshan

    Let’s save Lindsay for the playoffs. Don’t give Boston another chance to adjust to him. He’ll give House fits.

  117. 117 BadGirl

    Being in Redskins country, couldn’t get the game on Comcast - too much post Skins/Seahawks coverage. Thanks for the commentary - gives me a feel for the game. Love Stuckey.

  118. 118 kevin s.

    Seriously, this week’s practice should consist of throwing a hundred basketballs everywhere and having everyone go get them.

  119. 119 kevin s.

    Needless technicals. Playoff atmosphere indeed.

  120. 120 tedwick

    you have got to be kidding me with these refs.

  121. 121 Quick Darshan

    Damn. Chauncey keeps draining shots and staring daggers at the refs.

  122. 122 Forty

    is this officiating for real?

  123. 123 kevin s.

    That foul on Billups was bananas.

  124. 124 Quick Darshan

    Rip and Chauncey still trying to do too much. Rip missed Dyess for a wide open jumper.

  125. 125 Sauce1977

    THIS is the kind of game I expected to see back in December.

    The closest thing to rough-and-tumble Daly-Pistons era that I can imagine. Good times. The clutching, pushing, and grabbing is making for the best TV all night!

  126. 126 Kyl

    we’re rushing our shots big time. we’re doing a good job of getting to the line though

  127. 127 Forty

    We had 4 team fouls with more than 9 mins to go. That’s absurd. Prince straight up, Pierce to line. Billups straight up, Rondo to line. At least he missed them.

  128. 128 Kyl

    well… drawing fouls anyway, we need to attack garnett.

  129. 129 kevin s.

    This isn’t Prince’s game at all.

  130. 130 waltonlikesmen1

    I can’t see the game, but if they’re rushing shots, someone should remind them that they’re the better team and just need to execute, don’t they pay some guy named Flip or something to do that for them?

  131. 131 Quick Darshan

    Both teams are settling for jumpers. Sheed is playing incredible defense.

  132. 132 Forty

    Prince doing a great job on Pierce though. Dice is my goat.

  133. 133 kevin s.

    Announcers accuse Billups of flailing. Replay shows Perkins to be flailing.

  134. 134 Forty

    I’d actually give them that that’s ticky tack. But if we’re going to rank ticky tack fouls in this quarter, they’re going to lose that argument.

  135. 135 Forty

    In a 30 second span, Tommy said the Perkins foul was ridiculous, said the tech was unwarranted, said the ref went after Doc, then snidely insinuated Billups fouled Pierce at the other end. Whatever, Blaha is a homer too I guess.

  136. 136 Quick Darshan

    The (mostly) unbiased announcer is a rare breed. There’s Blaha, Ralph Lawler (Clippers), and probably not much else. THe Shaq-Kobe Lakers were actually not annoying to watch when Chick Hearn was doing their games.

  137. 137 kevin s.

    I’m sorry, did they just call that “foul” on Big Baby a HARD foul? Wow.

  138. 138 Forty

    I like Collabro quite a bit.

    Blaha would annoy the crap out of me if I was an opposing fan. For one, “he has to foul him to stop him” is a pretty obnoxious way to describe a guy drawing a foul.

  139. 139 kevin s.

    That foul on Prince. I have no words.

  140. 140 Quick Darshan

    On the replay it actually was a foul. The Sheed foul was bull though.

  141. 141 Forty

    How did Maxiell not go to the line…what do they think he was going to do there…it was a step back j…

  142. 142 Steve

    Do these refs have money on the game or something?

    (ba doom boom)

  143. 143 Forty

    Will be fun when we cut Stuckey loose and let him be our Barbosa/Harris.

  144. 144 Steve

    Threeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!

  145. 145 Forty

    That three should have put us ahead…f’ing Billups and Hamilton going 1-4 from stripe…whatever, I guess Chauncey can’t choose which 9% he misses.

  146. 146 Forty

    When does Billups start killing them again?

  147. 147 Forty

    We’re a couple missed free throws and a stupid turnover leading to a Pierce dunk from winning this game…

  148. 148 Steve

    Can’t ask for a better game down the stretch.

    Well, unless we were the ones UP by two.

  149. 149 Quick Darshan

    Glen Davis big offensive rebound and score.

  150. 150 Forty

    Glen Davis, we’ll see you in March.

  151. 151 Forty

    I wonder if the 30 teams who passed on Davis in the first round remember the final four two years ago. This guy doesn’t suck.

  152. 152 kevin s.

    Billups missed that on purpose. Tell me he didn’t miss that on purpose. What the hell was that?

  153. 153 Quick Darshan

    And that’s game. Terrible shot by Chauncey.

  154. 154 Steve

    Why on earth did he jack that 3?

  155. 155 Quick Darshan

    I think Flip kept a few cards up his sleeve. We didn’t go to the zone once in this game.

  156. 156 Steve

    SIXTEEN points in the fourth quarter? Who woulda seen that?

  157. 157 Sauce1977

    Billups . . . when he missed that free throw . . . and he got the ball back . . . I screamed at the television, “now set a play, DO NOT SHOOT IT.”

    Of course, I screamed more when he threw the airball without setting the play.

    If you’re going to criticize Chauncey, that’s the exact moment you do so. Mr. Big Shot is not exactly that . . . . most of the time.

    The rebound off the improbable missed Billups free throw . . . stroke of luck. Shooting the ball without setting a play . . . stroke of stupidity. Flip Saunders better have a say in that too. When Billups rebounded the missed free throw . . . no timeout? How about after the airball?

  158. 158 Quick Darshan

    Glen Davis just snubbed Eli Zarat on an interview.

  159. 159 joejoejoe

    Nice game by Glen Davis. He was the difference. Congrats to Boston.

    See you in the playoffs.

  160. 160 kevin s.

    All the way around, that felt like EC finals. Pistons get testy, refs rally against them, second-tier players beat them. Billups rebounding a free-throw to himself looks genius if he makes the play, but the end result was bizarre.

    The substitutions with Maxiell were strange. Is this a glimpse at the playoffs?

  161. 161 Forty

    Bad things:
    Pulling Prince in first half before Pierce sat down and letting him get a rhythm
    Not boxing out Glen Davis
    Not allowing Stuckey to do the thing that he got drafted for (driving)
    The down-the-stretch play of a certain point guard who hasn’t been deserving of his nickname since 2005

    Good things:
    Maxiell
    Prince’s defense on Pierce
    Putting a lid on Allen
    A kick in the crotch to keep the Pistons hungry and make them realize they need to move their expiring contracts for one more player (I’d move Amir Johnson, the Charlotte guys, Hunter, and Murray for Gasol…the salaries match…question is would you throw in a pick to get it done)

  162. 162 bonzi

    I think everyone was shocked at the STUPIDITY of that f**king shot! MY God! I know it’s just one game, but come on. You can’t do stupid shit like that, win or lose. Shooting over Pierce is not a smart play, hit or miss. You play hard for 47.5 minutes and then he jacks up a three and ruins it. I would be very pissed at Billups, were I on the court at the time.

  163. 163 kevin s.

    “(I’d move Amir Johnson, the Charlotte guys, Hunter, and Murray for Gasol…”

    LOL. Now we’re suddenly ready to revamp the roster. Suffice to say, the Grizzlies do not take that trade.

  164. 164 Forty

    That was a good game. The officiating was about a C, but it didn’t favor one team overall. Davis was huge at the end of the game, what else can you do but tip your cap.

    If you like one thing about Boston being our main competition, it’s how well we match up with them. As good as Garnett is, he doesn’t beat you in the last 2 minutes. The “man” for Boston in the crunch is Pierce. And Prince does a much better job on him than he does on Wade or James. And Hamilton doesn’t take defensive possessions off, which is how Allen gets all his points against most teams (you leave him, it’s three 80% of the time.)

    I like us in 6 or 7 against them at this point.

  165. 165 Steve

    ^ great analysis … i have to agree … bring on the playoffs!

  166. 166 Sauce1977

    I like that playoffs to be the lock of the entire NBA playoffs for must-see TV, provided Boston keeps this up during a much tougher 2nd half Boston schedule . . . if they’re 60-65 wins come playoff time, each game, if Boston and Detroit face, even if there’s only 4, those will be memorable ones.

  167. 167 waltonlikesmen1

    Well, season series is now even, props to Boston for coming in and picking up a win at the Palace. Welcome back to earth Detroit, no streak lasts forever. Hopefully this game serves as a tune up much like the last one did for both teams. Just would’ve been nice to see Detroit win the bench battle and not let Glen Davis be the game’s leading scorer (sounds like a Langlois red-flag to me), but hey, it’s January and Wednesday provides the Pistons a great opportunity to bounce back strong if they can pick up a rod win in Dallas.

    Two close games that came down to the final minute, still too close to make any definite assertions as to where both of these teams will be four months from now.

    Again, congrats to Boston

  168. 168 Forty

    Kevin, revamp the roster? I’m talking about trading 5 guys who didn’t play today (well ok Brezec played 2 mins). Criticize the idea for hurting the future (Johnson, the expiring deals, and possibly a pick). But don’t make it seem like I’m suggesting we blow up the team. I’m saying you add at the deadline, not swap out someone in our core.

    Also, what happend the last time we added a stud at the deadline in exchange for cap relief? Oh yeah, we got Rasheed and won a championship.

  169. 169 Kyl

    glen davis was a monster and i give him credit, the celtics have their own jason maxiell. i’m not terribly depressed we lost this though, it’ll keep us hungry.

  170. 170 Forty

    And to answer your point on Grizz not taking that trade, Gasol has a bad contract. This is a team that owes him 17MM in a few years, and he’s never won a playoff game. That feels a bit rich…totally agree with you if he’s got a good contract, but he doesn’t. Moreover, they’re right at the cap. So every expiring $ is a $ they spend in free agency next year. They’re not in a “that just gets us further from the tax threshold” situation — it puts them in a great position to sign someone in 2008, which has a few decent free agents I hear (as in, best class in last 5 years). It also ensures they tank this year and get a Beasley, Rose, Mayo, etc. And finally, Johnson is a nice young player who would go top 10 if he entered the draft today.

    Their fans would flip out, but it’s hardly a “ridiculous” trade from their perspective.

    Last point: is it any worse than what Philly got for Iverson? And Iverson is WAY better than Gasol.

  171. 171 waltonlikesmen1

    Is there anyone that can be “terribly” disappointed that we lost this game? We are PISTONS fans, are we not? Been through much much much more depressing games than this one. The power rankings is where the affects of this game will be felt the most. My guess, the sun will rise tomorrow.

  172. 172 Forty

    I’ll also throw in the McGrady comparison: would you rather have Francis or all the cap relief and a young guy (Johnson) who makes <4MM per.

  173. 173 Forty

    Agreed Walton.

  174. 174 waltonlikesmen1

    BTW…Don’t be too hard on Chauncey for hoisting one bad shot. Rather have that mental lapse now than later. He is, of course, the man that delivered the win in Boston, is he not? Trust me, he’ll not forgive himself until the Celtics are headed back to Boston to watch him play in the Finals. The name’s Mr. Big Shot, not Mr. Perfect.

  175. 175 Diablo

    Well unlike the immature Celtic fans who came in here all butt-hurt about the lost they recieved a couple weeks ago, I’m going to actually give the Celtic’s their dues. Alot of us had questioned their bench and ironically, it was one of their bench players who destroyed us. I’m not saying their bench is amazing or even average but Glen Davis should be starting over that other guy (can’t remember his name, it had something to do with a “beast”). So Congrates on the victroy, you guys obviously wanted it more than we did, (it was obvious because of all the poor shot selections we took at the end of the game). That Celtic fans, is called “being the bigger man”.

  176. 176 Forty

    One thing I’ll say in Chauncey’s defense: I would have been going “Chauncey Buh Buh Buh Billups” if he stroked that lol. I don’t want to play down a terrible decision by saying “it’s always a bad shot when you miss,” but man it’s fun when he nails the crazy ones lol.

  177. 177 Matthew Roark

    Celtics should not have lost at home….bs play by Tony Allen….tonight was proving the point……you let Paul Pierce and Big Baby run all over you in the fourth quarter…..this might shut up the national media and “Experts” for a little while…..dont cry too much tonight donkeys!! LOLOLOLOL

  178. 178 waltonlikesmen1

    Now I didn’t see the game, but if Glen Davis scores 16 in the 4th when Detroit was leading by 3 entering the quarter, I’d have to say that Detroit made someone other than Pierce, Allen, or Garnett beat them and that’s just what happened. I’m sure the Pistons feel like they let this one slip away, but, if history has taught me anything, this team bounces back very well. January should be interesting…

  179. 179 Forty

    Also, why wouldn’t any team pay Tom Thibodeau (sp?) a lot of money to coach d for them? I know Garnett is a phenomenal defender, but you can’t tell me one guy takes them from the joke they were last year to the best defensive team in the NBA by a considerable margin. Bringing him in to coach defense has completely transformed their team defense.

    In general, aren’t front-office guys and coaches very undervalued? If you owned a big market team, why not spend ~10MM per year on guys like R.C. Buford/Joe Dumars/Mike D’Antoni/Thibodeau? They’re worth it.

  180. 180 Forty

    Good game Matthew Roark, you guys deserved it tonight. Boston’s a great team.

  181. 181 Diablo

    I don’t want to be too hard on Chauncey but that was a terrible shot. He had so much time left on the shot clock and he had the ball in his possession the whole time. That’s a shot I wouldn’t mind in the previous 3 quarters but not when we are in the dieing seconds of the game. I’ve seen Chaunce make better decisions but I’m with who ever said “it’s better to make mental mistakes now than later.”