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	<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119269</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 13:53:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119269</guid>
		<description>Mike Payne:  Thanks man!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Payne:  Thanks man!</p>
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		<title>By: Sauce1977</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119182</link>
		<dc:creator>Sauce1977</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 06:04:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119182</guid>
		<description>At least I don't have to hear about how well Paxson is doing in comparison to Joe Dumars with regard to GM and their respective franchises.

Thanks, Chicago, for signing Ben Wallace, not trading for Pau Gasol, Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, and defending Scott Skiles up until he was fired, among other laughers, like Noah.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At least I don&#8217;t have to hear about how well Paxson is doing in comparison to Joe Dumars with regard to GM and their respective franchises.</p>
<p>Thanks, Chicago, for signing Ben Wallace, not trading for Pau Gasol, Kevin Garnett, Kobe Bryant, and defending Scott Skiles up until he was fired, among other laughers, like Noah.</p>
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		<title>By: Sauce1977</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119179</link>
		<dc:creator>Sauce1977</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 05:59:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119179</guid>
		<description>If Flip Saunders thinks Amir needs some work on his b-ball smarts, then that says everything about that waste of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Flip Saunders thinks Amir needs some work on his b-ball smarts, then that says everything about that waste of money.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119117</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jan 2008 01:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119117</guid>
		<description>Garrett-- The primary reason Amir isn't getting minutes is because of his slot in the pecking order for his strongest position, Power Forward.  We have two PF's ahead of Amir right now (and three if you include Rasheed swinging to the 4 spot) in McDyess and Maxiell.  He's not getting minutes because there just aren't minutes available for him in these games.  We play Brezec before Amir because Brezec is our 2nd natural 5 (although mcdyess/maxiell typically swing to the 5 beforehand too).

Stuckey, however, only has Chauncey in front of him-- so naturally he's our first guard off the bench next to Afflalo.  Has Stuckey impressed our coaches in practice moreso than Amir?  Maybe, but that's kind of irrelovent: we don't need Amir as bad as we need Stuckey on the floor.

(sidenote, Garrett- just checked out your site again, you're a damn good photographer, i'm quite impressed!)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garrett&#8211; The primary reason Amir isn&#8217;t getting minutes is because of his slot in the pecking order for his strongest position, Power Forward.  We have two PF&#8217;s ahead of Amir right now (and three if you include Rasheed swinging to the 4 spot) in McDyess and Maxiell.  He&#8217;s not getting minutes because there just aren&#8217;t minutes available for him in these games.  We play Brezec before Amir because Brezec is our 2nd natural 5 (although mcdyess/maxiell typically swing to the 5 beforehand too).</p>
<p>Stuckey, however, only has Chauncey in front of him&#8211; so naturally he&#8217;s our first guard off the bench next to Afflalo.  Has Stuckey impressed our coaches in practice moreso than Amir?  Maybe, but that&#8217;s kind of irrelovent: we don&#8217;t need Amir as bad as we need Stuckey on the floor.</p>
<p>(sidenote, Garrett- just checked out your site again, you&#8217;re a damn good photographer, i&#8217;m quite impressed!)</p>
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		<title>By: Q Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119056</link>
		<dc:creator>Q Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119056</guid>
		<description>My humble apologies Matt, I try and cram all my NBA/Pistons reading in during work, sometimes it just doesn't get done! Lunch breaks are spent with the NBA Daily Dish and Basketball Jones podcasts. I do try though!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My humble apologies Matt, I try and cram all my NBA/Pistons reading in during work, sometimes it just doesn&#8217;t get done! Lunch breaks are spent with the NBA Daily Dish and Basketball Jones podcasts. I do try though!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Toledo Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119054</link>
		<dc:creator>Toledo Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:35:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119054</guid>
		<description>I personally would like to see Aaron A. get some more minutes.  I know Stuckey was hurt, but Aaron's impressed me more so far.

Nice win against Toronto, except for the part that in my NBA fantasy league, my opponent of the week has Rip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I personally would like to see Aaron A. get some more minutes.  I know Stuckey was hurt, but Aaron&#8217;s impressed me more so far.</p>
<p>Nice win against Toronto, except for the part that in my NBA fantasy league, my opponent of the week has Rip.</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Watson</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119051</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Watson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 21:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119051</guid>
		<description>Q Dog: 

"I LOVE this Rip quote from the &lt;a href="http://www.hoopsworld.com/Blogs/CourtsideBlog.asp?GAME_ID=21577&#038;LEAGUE_CODE=NBA" rel="nofollow"&gt;MATT'S HOOPSWORLD BLOG&lt;/a&gt;"

Fixed.

C'mon, doesn't anyone read what I write over there? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Q Dog: </p>
<p>&#8220;I LOVE this Rip quote from the <a href="http://www.hoopsworld.com/Blogs/CourtsideBlog.asp?GAME_ID=21577&#038;LEAGUE_CODE=NBA" rel="nofollow">MATT&#8217;S HOOPSWORLD BLOG</a>&#8221;</p>
<p>Fixed.</p>
<p>C&#8217;mon, doesn&#8217;t anyone read what I write over there? <img src='http://www.detroitbadboys.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Q Dog</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119046</link>
		<dc:creator>Q Dog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 20:59:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119046</guid>
		<description>I LOVE this Rip quote from the worldwide leader's recap:

Hamilton hit 16 of 22 shots against Toronto, including a career-high five 3-pointers.

"That's my real estate in the corner," he said. "It's like Monopoly. I've got four houses and a hotel on there. It's what I do."

Indeed, just not against crappy teams I guess...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I LOVE this Rip quote from the worldwide leader&#8217;s recap:</p>
<p>Hamilton hit 16 of 22 shots against Toronto, including a career-high five 3-pointers.</p>
<p>&#8220;That&#8217;s my real estate in the corner,&#8221; he said. &#8220;It&#8217;s like Monopoly. I&#8217;ve got four houses and a hotel on there. It&#8217;s what I do.&#8221;</p>
<p>Indeed, just not against crappy teams I guess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Rob G</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119015</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119015</guid>
		<description>Plus he's ineligible for the D league.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Plus he&#8217;s ineligible for the D league.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119014</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 19:31:23 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-119014</guid>
		<description>Garrett: i don't even think it's so much a confidence thing as it is his current role. if we want to make slashers like herrmann and amir useful we have to change some of the plays. forcing slashers to shoot jump shots hasn't worked and will continue not to work. Amir has been getting put backs and dunks because as the offense is structured now, that's his role, if we ran a couple plays focusing on him i think you'd see a marked change in his offensive skillset and aggressiveness. 

i also don't buy the argument that they see him in practice so there must be a reason not to play him. i think that's a convenient excuse used by coaches for ages. i've never heard popovich say it. rip said himself not too long ago that he's felt they always had bench players that could score, they just never got much burn. it amazes me that with this whole discussion going on, that quote doesn't get more attention. 

moderately changing our offense to allow slashers like herrmann, stuckey, amir and even flip murray to flourish may cause some struggles, but we'd be better for it. 


i guess there is an argument going on wether the pistons bench has routinely been a non-factor because they're inconsistent or because they're under-utilized. it's my view that they've been inconsistent BECAUSE they're underutilized. 

not playing a player, acting surprised that the fans want to see that player, and then mysteriously referring to "inconsistincies" during practice as the reason not to play them is not a way to make a player better. it's the way to make a player into the new darko.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Garrett: i don&#8217;t even think it&#8217;s so much a confidence thing as it is his current role. if we want to make slashers like herrmann and amir useful we have to change some of the plays. forcing slashers to shoot jump shots hasn&#8217;t worked and will continue not to work. Amir has been getting put backs and dunks because as the offense is structured now, that&#8217;s his role, if we ran a couple plays focusing on him i think you&#8217;d see a marked change in his offensive skillset and aggressiveness. </p>
<p>i also don&#8217;t buy the argument that they see him in practice so there must be a reason not to play him. i think that&#8217;s a convenient excuse used by coaches for ages. i&#8217;ve never heard popovich say it. rip said himself not too long ago that he&#8217;s felt they always had bench players that could score, they just never got much burn. it amazes me that with this whole discussion going on, that quote doesn&#8217;t get more attention. </p>
<p>moderately changing our offense to allow slashers like herrmann, stuckey, amir and even flip murray to flourish may cause some struggles, but we&#8217;d be better for it. </p>
<p>i guess there is an argument going on wether the pistons bench has routinely been a non-factor because they&#8217;re inconsistent or because they&#8217;re under-utilized. it&#8217;s my view that they&#8217;ve been inconsistent BECAUSE they&#8217;re underutilized. </p>
<p>not playing a player, acting surprised that the fans want to see that player, and then mysteriously referring to &#8220;inconsistincies&#8221; during practice as the reason not to play them is not a way to make a player better. it&#8217;s the way to make a player into the new darko.</p>
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		<title>By: Garrett</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-118997</link>
		<dc:creator>Garrett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:34:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-118997</guid>
		<description>Mike Payne:  Maybe it's a confidence thing, because when I've seen Amir play, it looks like he's not even THINKING about shooting the ball.  If he has offensive skills in his arsenal (which, according to his stint in the D-League, he does) he needs to just let loose and bring it.  Like I said, though, the coaching staff and his teammates see what he can and can't do every day in practice.  Just because he can tear up some D-League scrubs doesn't mean he can hang with NBA vets yet.  I'm just saying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Payne:  Maybe it&#8217;s a confidence thing, because when I&#8217;ve seen Amir play, it looks like he&#8217;s not even THINKING about shooting the ball.  If he has offensive skills in his arsenal (which, according to his stint in the D-League, he does) he needs to just let loose and bring it.  Like I said, though, the coaching staff and his teammates see what he can and can&#8217;t do every day in practice.  Just because he can tear up some D-League scrubs doesn&#8217;t mean he can hang with NBA vets yet.  I&#8217;m just saying.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-118991</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 18:16:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-118991</guid>
		<description>i just hope we send amir back to the d-league or something. flip has no intention of utilizing amir, it's stupid for him to get so many dnp's when he could be going back to dominating the d-league.

imo amir has shown enough to be given a shot, but he won't get it. flip saunders' use for his bench has always been "go stand over there, behind the 3 point line, and if the starters are struggling with a few seconds left on the clock, then they'll pass it to you." that's what he did to delfino, arroyo, murray and maurice evans.

i have no doubt in my mind that if joe d. weren't breathing down saunders' neck we wouldn't be seeing stuckey, herrmann, afflalo or brezec. it would be hunter, maxiell and hayes. those are the three players he would be criticized the least for playing, even if they lose. if you ask me, flip thinks that if they lose a game in which herrmann, brezec or amir played more than three minutes, then he'll get torn apart for losing while playing "inconsistent" players. 

Flip has never had any concept of an entire, competitive season and then a legit playoff run. granted, lots of voices will criticize flip if we play the bench and lose a regular season game, but if he doesn't at least get to the finals this year his ass is grass. 

oh well, i guess i'll just get used to seeing herrmann and afflalo wasted, taking spot up threes and then being criticized for not hitting them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just hope we send amir back to the d-league or something. flip has no intention of utilizing amir, it&#8217;s stupid for him to get so many dnp&#8217;s when he could be going back to dominating the d-league.</p>
<p>imo amir has shown enough to be given a shot, but he won&#8217;t get it. flip saunders&#8217; use for his bench has always been &#8220;go stand over there, behind the 3 point line, and if the starters are struggling with a few seconds left on the clock, then they&#8217;ll pass it to you.&#8221; that&#8217;s what he did to delfino, arroyo, murray and maurice evans.</p>
<p>i have no doubt in my mind that if joe d. weren&#8217;t breathing down saunders&#8217; neck we wouldn&#8217;t be seeing stuckey, herrmann, afflalo or brezec. it would be hunter, maxiell and hayes. those are the three players he would be criticized the least for playing, even if they lose. if you ask me, flip thinks that if they lose a game in which herrmann, brezec or amir played more than three minutes, then he&#8217;ll get torn apart for losing while playing &#8220;inconsistent&#8221; players. </p>
<p>Flip has never had any concept of an entire, competitive season and then a legit playoff run. granted, lots of voices will criticize flip if we play the bench and lose a regular season game, but if he doesn&#8217;t at least get to the finals this year his ass is grass. </p>
<p>oh well, i guess i&#8217;ll just get used to seeing herrmann and afflalo wasted, taking spot up threes and then being criticized for not hitting them.</p>
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		<title>By: Quick Darshan</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-118975</link>
		<dc:creator>Quick Darshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:59:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-118975</guid>
		<description>I agree that Amir should get a few (emphasis on "few") more opportunities.  But, I don't think it's going to make or break his development in the long run.

Even more important to him becoming a great player are two things:

1. Hitting the weight room in the off-season.
2. Developing some go to moves in the off-season.

I guess that's really one thing.  Working hard in the off-season.  Same goes for Samb (who's impressed me more than Amir so far).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that Amir should get a few (emphasis on &#8220;few&#8221;) more opportunities.  But, I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s going to make or break his development in the long run.</p>
<p>Even more important to him becoming a great player are two things:</p>
<p>1. Hitting the weight room in the off-season.<br />
2. Developing some go to moves in the off-season.</p>
<p>I guess that&#8217;s really one thing.  Working hard in the off-season.  Same goes for Samb (who&#8217;s impressed me more than Amir so far).</p>
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		<title>By: Ohad</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-118968</link>
		<dc:creator>Ohad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 15:28:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-118968</guid>
		<description>“there’s got to be a happy medium between dnp and 20 mpg. ”
In an average game where we don't go small for even a minute, considering sheed and dice will get 31 minutes each (more or less), that leaves 14 minutes per spot. if you count in the 23 mpg maxi gets, that leaves you with exactly 5 minutes for primoz and amir to play.
I don't see any minutes being cut from anyone but primoz. I don't know how well he practices but you have to give a little credit to the guy. he started for charlote. maybe getting only 13-14 mpg but still....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>“there’s got to be a happy medium between dnp and 20 mpg. ”<br />
In an average game where we don&#8217;t go small for even a minute, considering sheed and dice will get 31 minutes each (more or less), that leaves 14 minutes per spot. if you count in the 23 mpg maxi gets, that leaves you with exactly 5 minutes for primoz and amir to play.<br />
I don&#8217;t see any minutes being cut from anyone but primoz. I don&#8217;t know how well he practices but you have to give a little credit to the guy. he started for charlote. maybe getting only 13-14 mpg but still&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Drew</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-118943</link>
		<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Jan 2008 14:32:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-15/pistons-host-raps/#comment-118943</guid>
		<description>In honor of last night's game, Sheed's face needs to be replaced by Dice's in the picture for his defense on Bosh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In honor of last night&#8217;s game, Sheed&#8217;s face needs to be replaced by Dice&#8217;s in the picture for his defense on Bosh.</p>
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