Comments on: Fun with Hot Spots http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/ A Detroit Pistons blog Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:34:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: It’s time to respect Rip’s tramp ball | Detroit Bad Boys http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-123741 It’s time to respect Rip’s tramp ball | Detroit Bad Boys Wed, 30 Jan 2008 19:09:58 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-123741 [...] heard the phrase “tramp ball” before today, but I see his point: he’s been red-hot all season from the corners and decent from everywhere else. Chauncey Billups isn’t so confident. “I want him [...] […] heard the phrase “tramp ball” before today, but I see his point: he’s been red-hot all season from the corners and decent from everywhere else. Chauncey Billups isn’t so confident. “I want him […]

]]> By: Orlando finally beats Detroit | Detroit Bad Boys http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-120842 Orlando finally beats Detroit | Detroit Bad Boys Tue, 22 Jan 2008 12:17:38 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-120842 [...] the year: he’s technically at .498 with 299 field goals in 600 attempts. For a guy who does most of his scoring outside of the paint, that’s damn [...] […] the year: he’s technically at .498 with 299 field goals in 600 attempts. For a guy who does most of his scoring outside of the paint, that’s damn […]

]]> By: waltonlikesmen1 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119884 waltonlikesmen1 Sat, 19 Jan 2008 21:30:13 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119884 Now, Marcus Camby has Piston written all over him. He reminds me of Tay, only he's inflicted with Satan's wrath. Kyle + LB - I respect your opinions on Brezec, but I still don't see him being a difference maker for us. JesseC made a good point in saying that Brezec's contract will be up and he'll probably be gone next year. From what I've seen from Brezec so far this year (I'll admit, it's not as much as I'd like), he's a lot like most big guys on a highschool team: has the size advantage, just doesn't have the skills to exploit it. Now, Marcus Camby has Piston written all over him. He reminds me of Tay, only he’s inflicted with Satan’s wrath.

Kyle + LB - I respect your opinions on Brezec, but I still don’t see him being a difference maker for us. JesseC made a good point in saying that Brezec’s contract will be up and he’ll probably be gone next year.

From what I’ve seen from Brezec so far this year (I’ll admit, it’s not as much as I’d like), he’s a lot like most big guys on a highschool team: has the size advantage, just doesn’t have the skills to exploit it.

]]> By: Mike Payne http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119620 Mike Payne Fri, 18 Jan 2008 23:05:54 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119620 I hate Marcus Camby. He's tearing up my fantasy team right now... and I'm typically the block leader! That bastard... I hate Marcus Camby. He’s tearing up my fantasy team right now… and I’m typically the block leader! That bastard…

]]> By: Quick Darshan http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119613 Quick Darshan Fri, 18 Jan 2008 22:21:45 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119613 I've seen the next Marcus Camby. His name is Cheick Samby. I’ve seen the next Marcus Camby. His name is Cheick Samby.

]]> By: Kyle http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119600 Kyle Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:59:35 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119600 WLM1, I'm with LB on this one. A big body that can guard other big bodies is something our bench is currently lacking without Brezec. He seems to understand this limited role and be ok with it, I don't think Webber would be (or be as good defensively as brezec is). LanceBlanks, if he hasn't taken enough shots for the odds to be significant then he should be taking more shots. it's stupid of him to shoot that high a percentage, but sit back and watch tay brick 10 in a row. it kills me that someone shooting so bad keeps taking so many shots and someone who has been shooting on fire isn't. either flip or chauncey need to wise up. tay is a great great talent, but if he keeps taking and missing so many shots either Flip or Chauncey need to be slapped in the face. WLM1,
I’m with LB on this one. A big body that can guard other big bodies is something our bench is currently lacking without Brezec. He seems to understand this limited role and be ok with it, I don’t think Webber would be (or be as good defensively as brezec is).

LanceBlanks,
if he hasn’t taken enough shots for the odds to be significant then he should be taking more shots. it’s stupid of him to shoot that high a percentage, but sit back and watch tay brick 10 in a row.

it kills me that someone shooting so bad keeps taking so many shots and someone who has been shooting on fire isn’t. either flip or chauncey need to wise up. tay is a great great talent, but if he keeps taking and missing so many shots either Flip or Chauncey need to be slapped in the face.

]]> By: LawyerBoy http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119599 LawyerBoy Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:54:29 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119599 Yeah, it's a shame that Camby missed a triple double (with blocks!!!) by 2 points. Obscured by that amazing stat line was the fact that Linas Kleiza went off for 41 last night against the Jazz in that game. I've been big on Kleiza for a minute and I remember I noted him as an underrated or underappreciated player in a thread on this blog a looooong time ago, but dropping 41? My goodness. Yeah, it’s a shame that Camby missed a triple double (with blocks!!!) by 2 points. Obscured by that amazing stat line was the fact that Linas Kleiza went off for 41 last night against the Jazz in that game. I’ve been big on Kleiza for a minute and I remember I noted him as an underrated or underappreciated player in a thread on this blog a looooong time ago, but dropping 41? My goodness.

]]> By: Toledo Joe http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119598 Toledo Joe Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:53:26 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119598 "excellent." Sheesh, I should proofread. “excellent.” Sheesh, I should proofread.

]]> By: Toledo Joe http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119597 Toledo Joe Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:52:43 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119597 Stoudemire and Rasheed are both excleent players, but trading them for each other makes both teams worse. The Pistons already have some interior defense problems (especially when 'Sheed isn't on the court) and their "bigs" are already relatively small. And Stoudemire isn't going to get all those fun dunks in Detroit's offense. Meanwhile, Rasheed would just slow up the Suns offense. Camby is a beast. I wouldn't trade 'Sheed for him, but Marcus is doing the Ben Wallace rebounding/defense type big man better than anyone else this year, including Ben. Oh, and that is a fun app. Stoudemire and Rasheed are both excleent players, but trading them for each other makes both teams worse. The Pistons already have some interior defense problems (especially when ‘Sheed isn’t on the court) and their “bigs” are already relatively small. And Stoudemire isn’t going to get all those fun dunks in Detroit’s offense. Meanwhile, Rasheed would just slow up the Suns offense.

Camby is a beast. I wouldn’t trade ‘Sheed for him, but Marcus is doing the Ben Wallace rebounding/defense type big man better than anyone else this year, including Ben.

Oh, and that is a fun app.

]]> By: Ohad http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119594 Ohad Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:40:27 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119594 I just read a little NBA.com an i was thinking about one of the posts about underrated players.... Marcus camby had a night of 24 rebounds and 11 blocks. even with a 30% FG% those are great stats and shows a lot of hustle... Not thati would trade him for sheedjust like i wouldn't trade him for any of the suns bt still....underrated I just read a little NBA.com an i was thinking about one of the posts about underrated players….
Marcus camby had a night of 24 rebounds and 11 blocks. even with a 30% FG% those are great stats and shows a lot of hustle…
Not thati would trade him for sheedjust like i wouldn’t trade him for any of the suns bt still….underrated

]]> By: JesseC http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119593 JesseC Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:29:27 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119593 And remember the Primoz has an expiring contract and most likely will be somewhere (Europe) else next year. And remember the Primoz has an expiring contract and most likely will be somewhere (Europe) else next year.

]]> By: LanceBlanks http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119589 LanceBlanks Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:18:04 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119589 I don't think the hot spots prove much about JMax. Yeah, the red color fills in the mid-range spots, but look at the numbers - he has only taken a few shots from those spots. Either the numbers are two small to be statistically significant and accurately predict future percentages (unlike Dice's numbers) or JMax only shoots from outside when he's WIDE open (and thus much more likely to make it) -- or perhaps both are true. In any case, I wouldn't say JMax is out-diceing Dice. That said, I think the hot spot utility is pretty cool, and I like the thought behind examining our production with it. It might also be worthwhile to use it to scout other teams. I don’t think the hot spots prove much about JMax. Yeah, the red color fills in the mid-range spots, but look at the numbers - he has only taken a few shots from those spots. Either the numbers are two small to be statistically significant and accurately predict future percentages (unlike Dice’s numbers) or JMax only shoots from outside when he’s WIDE open (and thus much more likely to make it) — or perhaps both are true. In any case, I wouldn’t say JMax is out-diceing Dice.

That said, I think the hot spot utility is pretty cool, and I like the thought behind examining our production with it. It might also be worthwhile to use it to scout other teams.

]]> By: LawyerBoy http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119586 LawyerBoy Fri, 18 Jan 2008 20:06:20 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119586 WLM1, I disagree completely. He brings size that no one else on the team has. Cheick Samb may be 7'1 but he is not 250 pounds and he's not going to be on our roster this season. Yes, Shaq (part of the not so mobile big guy crew that Brezec would match up nicely against) isn't so much of a threat to play us this postseason, but what about Nenad Kristic on the Nets? They're probably going to make the playoffs, and we may have to play them. While I wouldn't worry about losing to the Nets, especially on an account of Kristic being the difference, I like having Brezec for that matchup. He's not a great player, sure, but he certainly deserves to be here in an end-of-the-bench role as a (extremely limited) situational player with great size. WLM1, I disagree completely. He brings size that no one else on the team has. Cheick Samb may be 7′1 but he is not 250 pounds and he’s not going to be on our roster this season. Yes, Shaq (part of the not so mobile big guy crew that Brezec would match up nicely against) isn’t so much of a threat to play us this postseason, but what about Nenad Kristic on the Nets? They’re probably going to make the playoffs, and we may have to play them. While I wouldn’t worry about losing to the Nets, especially on an account of Kristic being the difference, I like having Brezec for that matchup. He’s not a great player, sure, but he certainly deserves to be here in an end-of-the-bench role as a (extremely limited) situational player with great size.

]]> By: waltonlikesmen1 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119582 waltonlikesmen1 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:22:24 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119582 BTW...Brezec needs to go. I don't care how enthuiastic he is about playing for Detroit, the dude doesn't bring anything but longterm drawbacks. I'm sorry, but if cheerleading is his strongest asset, there's no reason to keep this guy around. BTW…Brezec needs to go. I don’t care how enthuiastic he is about playing for Detroit, the dude doesn’t bring anything but longterm drawbacks. I’m sorry, but if cheerleading is his strongest asset, there’s no reason to keep this guy around.

]]> By: waltonlikesmen1 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119581 waltonlikesmen1 Fri, 18 Jan 2008 19:15:00 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/#comment-119581 Sheed for Stoudemire? Please, Amare isn't a Piston and Sheed isn't a Sun. The last thing the Pistons need right now is one of the SOFTEST big men in the game. Sheed for Stoudemire? Please, Amare isn’t a Piston and Sheed isn’t a Sun. The last thing the Pistons need right now is one of the SOFTEST big men in the game.

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