Comments on: Dumars is in touch with Webber

By: Alan

Alan — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 16:36:16 +0000

I am going to miss C-Webb, the greatest and most creative passing center I’ve ever seen from the high post position. I admit Webber is a dinosaur. This is 2008, the old give and go or back door cuts are relics of the past. Besides, you can’t expect Billups to share the ball or Rasheed to cover for Chris’ bumm knees. When the Pistons fizzle out in May/June, nobody will be able to scapegoat Webber. Meanwhile, I’ll go watch some old Sacremento Kings tapes to remind myself how offensive basketball should be played.

By: Rob G

Rob G — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 06:14:17 +0000

Y’all know where I stand on this: bring him in, bring him off the bench. It’s a no brainer. Sorry, but that’s a fact, like the sky is blue and taxes suck. Do it.

By: Kyle

Kyle — Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:18:03 +0000

i only read the rosenberg article, but here are my thoughts on it. not only do i think it’s telling that he hasn’t signed with the pistons yet, i think it’s telling he hasn’t signed with anyone yet. if he had a real offer from any other legitimately contending team (mavs, celts, suns, spurs) he’d have signed already. i wouldn’t be surprised if the lakers offered him a contract, but he knows they’re not really contenders.

By: V

Wed, 23 Jan 2008 05:00:20 +0000

Anyone have an opinion about these two articles?

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080122/SPORTS03/80122067/1051

and, http://detnews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080122/OPINION03/801220342/1127

That being said, I gotta go with Rosenberg’s side of it. Partially because I believe a lot of it is over playing time, and how Webber behaved during the playoffs, and partially because I can’t believe Parker gets paid to be a sports columnist. To my mind, there’s like this irrebuttable presumption of inaccuracy whenever he writes something, it’s that bad.

By: Rob G

Rob G — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 20:50:12 +0000

I also can’t score without dunk.

By: Diablo

Diablo — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 19:41:20 +0000

The only time Maxiell turns one dimensional on the offensive side of the ball is when he is forced to make things happen for himself, (like create turnovers, grabbing offenisve boards, ect.) When the team can set-up a play for him on a mid-range jumper he will most likely knock it down.

By: Mike Payne

Mike Payne — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 17:05:07 +0000

Andrrew, read this:
http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-18/fun-with-hot-spots/

See Jason’s shot placement and performance. He has a strong jumper. Also, averaging nearly an assist per game in 30 minutes this season is on par with most bigs.

Yes, Maxiell is physical dynamite- he’s energy we NEED off the bench. But it is foolish to call his game one dimensional, which is essentially what you’re doing.

By: arcee24136

arcee24136 — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 16:11:12 +0000

I think Webber at first as a NO for the Pistons because he’s too old and his defense is not there. But come to think of it, and the way the Pistons are playing today, having lost three games, in which the Zoo Crew not playing well, he might be a good addition to the team. We all know Stuckey is good, but he’s still a rookie. He’s gonna make some mistakes and errors. But if you insert Webber at the center position, that will take some pressure off Stuckey because of C-Webb’s playmaking and passing skills. I know that his defense is not so good, but still you have guys that can defend well with him, Afflalo and Maxiell. So i think it will not be a problem anymore. Because what you want from the bench is production and good minutes of hustle and defense. With the lineup of Stuckey, Afflalo, Hayes, Maxiell and Webber, it will be a fun to watch. Another thing to point out is that Webber can also be inserted to the starting lineup depending on occassions.

By: andrrew

andrrew — Tue, 22 Jan 2008 10:08:10 +0000

Jason is only a phYsical player, he can’t pass the ball, he can’t score without dunk. Sign c-webb PLEASE!!!

By: kevin s.

kevin s. — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:45:13 +0000

I think that, given the recent play of the bigs, Webber will probably be signed.

Ironically, I’ve always thought that Artest-to-Detroit was destiny after the brawl.

By: Fadel

Fadel — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 23:04:43 +0000

The fact that Joe D. is talking to C-Webb confirms the Pistons’ interest in acquiring him before the trade deadline. I think it’s a done deal he’ll be in Pistons uniform this season. Welcome back C-Webb!

By: joejoejoe

joejoejoe — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:44:24 +0000

James B. - Scratch the Philly trade (#5). See my comment above.

1) Ariza’s got 1 year left on his deal and a broken foot. LA saves the cap space for next year.

2) Cassell has zero years left on his deal so his money clears next year. I figure LAC would rather give Hayes and Brezac a chance to win jobs than play Cassell in meaningless games. Cassell is very good in the playoffs and I think he’s big enough to allow Chauncey to play some SG alongside him in a small backcourt which solves a lot of rotation problems.

3) Kurt Thomas’s contract is done this year. I think Kurt Thomas helps against Dwight Howard, Kevin Garnett, and even LeBron James (on drives to the hoop) in the playoffs.

4) Hakim Warrick’s got one year left. I thought he was a cheap backup for next year ala Jarvis Hayes, it clears a spot and Warrick plays a similar style to Tayshaun so I thought he would fit in well.

By: waltonlikesmen1

waltonlikesmen1 — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:34:31 +0000

DJ, I totally agree that Webber would provide a great atmosphere for the younger players, especially Amir as you pointed out. What I meant was, I don’t see C-Web being the guy that gets us to the finals. I think the pieces are there with our startes and bench, they just need more time to utilize their abilities. I’m not sold on the idea that Amir needs another big vet to help him evolve his game. He needs playing time to do that.

As for Brezec, I understand needing a big man to give out fouls, but at least with Webber, you have a big that can create some offense if needed. Brezec has no offensive ability against the defenders in this league. As for basketball IQ, I’m not sure Brezec has much. Sure, it’s great to see a guy dive after loose balls during a blowout, but what if he were to injure himself while displaying that type of hustle. I like players that let their heads guide their hearts while they play, not the other way around.

Truthfully, I’d just never feel comfortable with Brezec on the floor during a tight game.

Toldeo Joe, that’s an interesting thought you expressed in regards to your comments on Joe D’s mindstate a couple of weeks ago compared to now. I wouldn’t worry though, I’m sure Joe D has thought out plan B and is worrying about plan C by now.

LB, those Wizards, as much I detest them, are impressing me with some of the wins they’ve been collecting. How many other teams will be able to claim a season sweep of the Mavs and two wins over Boston? With or without Gilbert, I’d like to see Boston have to play them in the early rounds of the playoffs.

By: James B.

James B. — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:31:00 +0000

Joejoejoe,

Like your thinking but got a couple of questions for you regarding your trade scenarios:

Trade 1) This is really the only trade I’d want to do, and thats just because I think a good SF that has a different style than Jarvis Hayes, is the only thing we REALLY need.

Trade 2) We don’t need Sam Cassell unless Joe D. is going to all of a sudden decide that Stuckey will not play PG in the NBA but SG…which won’t happen.

Trade 3) Not sure how many years Kurt has left on his contract, but agian, with Cheikh in the NBDL and a lotta upside, and Maxiell assumingly getting better next year, I don’t see how Kurt really helps us all that much…especially if the main reason for making a trade is to clear up room for C-Webb. Although it would obviously give us a lot more depth inside.

Trade 4) I’d rather not get rid of Afflalo and Samb for Hakim Warrick who has dropped off from last year with his numbers.

Trade 5) If we’re looking to clear space on the team for C-Webb, why would we do a 1 for 2 trade? I also find it hard to believe that there is anyone in the NBA that deserves to play for the Pistons that would get here with another player being traded for Primoz of all Pistons. Primoz barely deserves to play for the Pistons. If it weren’t for his crazy out of bounds dives, and his endless support for the starters and bench players from the bench, he’d be right out the door.

By: joejoejoe

joejoejoe — Mon, 21 Jan 2008 22:30:42 +0000

Scratch that Philly trade. I don’t know what I was thinking. It was half a joke (Hooray! We got Shav Randolph!) and half serious but I forget the point of the serious part and the trade stupidly adds a player instead of subtracting one. Sorry Primoz. I like you anyway and hope you stay.