Comments on: Pistons are in Philly http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/ A Detroit Pistons blog Sat, 10 Jan 2009 03:25:03 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: JackDutch http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121725 JackDutch Fri, 25 Jan 2008 03:53:28 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121725 mike payne: f*** no with a capital U-C-K. the only help i can see from webber would be running the 2nd unit offense thru him on the block instead of burdening an already overwhelmed stuckey with it. like we do with tay from time to time. i was pretty psyched to watch amir last night. there's two problems i noticed though. quick darshan among others has pointed out before how bad the kid needs directions to the weight room. example last night was he was bullied out of position for a rebound by reggie evans. just shoved aside like a 13 year old kid in an adult pick-up game. also, you could hear the other guys on defense last night yelling to him where he needed to be. i just think his quickness and athleticism can make up enough for those failings to get him 12-15 minutes a game and as flip said about stuckey, getting better with pt "is the only way." also, our bigs have looked tired over the past few weeks. max looks like he hit some sort of rookie wall. shaving minutes for our entire frontline would be nothing but positive. mike payne: f*** no with a capital U-C-K. the only help i can see from webber would be running the 2nd unit offense thru him on the block instead of burdening an already overwhelmed stuckey with it. like we do with tay from time to time.

i was pretty psyched to watch amir last night. there’s two problems i noticed though. quick darshan among others has pointed out before how bad the kid needs directions to the weight room. example last night was he was bullied out of position for a rebound by reggie evans. just shoved aside like a 13 year old kid in an adult pick-up game. also, you could hear the other guys on defense last night yelling to him where he needed to be. i just think his quickness and athleticism can make up enough for those failings to get him 12-15 minutes a game and as flip said about stuckey, getting better with pt “is the only way.” also, our bigs have looked tired over the past few weeks. max looks like he hit some sort of rookie wall. shaving minutes for our entire frontline would be nothing but positive.

]]> By: Mike Payne http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121639 Mike Payne Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:55:19 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121639 Hahaha-- good. I didn't think the DBB family would be split on this one. IsraeliPiston: "No Way, NFW". I couldn't agree more. Hahaha– good. I didn’t think the DBB family would be split on this one.

IsraeliPiston: “No Way, NFW”.

I couldn’t agree more.

]]> By: Matt Gibson http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121636 Matt Gibson Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:47:35 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121636 My perspective: nooooooooooooooooo. That would go against everything Joe has said and Joe has done. Joe signed Amir for 3 years for a reason. Joe didn't resign Webber for a reason. He had a chance. Hayes didn't come on until late in the off season. Joe repeatedly said that the Pistons need young legs, and need hustle. Webber does not bring that. I think Amir all of a sudden getting minutes is due to the losses. The Pistons looked tired and slow. Trying to play only 3 bigs through 82 games is going to wear them out. Sheed, Dice and Max are not looking like themselves. Dice hasn't had his normal touch. Sheed can't hit threes. And Max has 1 dunk in like 5 games. My perspective: nooooooooooooooooo. That would go against everything Joe has said and Joe has done. Joe signed Amir for 3 years for a reason. Joe didn’t resign Webber for a reason. He had a chance. Hayes didn’t come on until late in the off season. Joe repeatedly said that the Pistons need young legs, and need hustle. Webber does not bring that.

I think Amir all of a sudden getting minutes is due to the losses. The Pistons looked tired and slow. Trying to play only 3 bigs through 82 games is going to wear them out. Sheed, Dice and Max are not looking like themselves. Dice hasn’t had his normal touch. Sheed can’t hit threes. And Max has 1 dunk in like 5 games.

]]> By: IsraeliPiston http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121635 IsraeliPiston Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:45:51 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121635 So here’s a can of worms: would any of you move Johnson to put Webber in a Pistons uniform? No Way, NFW We are not getting rid of Amir - The Piston PR machine is rolling - flip saying he told Dumars, Blaha blogging, Langlois Blogging etc IMHO, amir is the answer to the high pick and rolls that are killing the pistons - do you see him block the three -- he was almost in the paint and still had the speed to get out and block the shot Lets not get carried away, Amir will make mistakes and get pushed around -- but he should be our 4th big and he can contribute So here’s a can of worms: would any of you move Johnson to put Webber in a Pistons uniform?

No Way, NFW

We are not getting rid of Amir - The Piston PR machine is rolling - flip saying he told Dumars, Blaha blogging, Langlois Blogging etc

IMHO, amir is the answer to the high pick and rolls that are killing the pistons - do you see him block the three — he was almost in the paint and still had the speed to get out and block the shot

Lets not get carried away, Amir will make mistakes and get pushed around — but he should be our 4th big and he can contribute

]]> By: Amir Johnson, not your average bear | Detroit Bad Boys http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121633 Amir Johnson, not your average bear | Detroit Bad Boys Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:42:43 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121633 [...] my silly title? It’s a nod to George Blaha, who’s also officially on the bandwagon. DBB reader Keegan pointed out Blaha’s column today at Pistons.com: He doesn’t have the same game as Rasheed [...] […] my silly title? It’s a nod to George Blaha, who’s also officially on the bandwagon. DBB reader Keegan pointed out Blaha’s column today at Pistons.com: He doesn’t have the same game as Rasheed […]

]]> By: Mike Payne http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121630 Mike Payne Thu, 24 Jan 2008 22:10:23 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121630 I mentioned this last night, that I was a little scared that we might be "showing amir off"... I can't knock this notion. I'm still worried. Maybe I'm just paranoid, but it is quite the coincidence... Four days ago Dumars mentions he's talking to Webber and that he won't buy out any of our contracts to open a roster spot. A trade is the only way Webber will end up a Piston. Four days later, Amir gets his first non-garbage minutes. So here's a can of worms: would any of you move Johnson to put Webber in a Pistons uniform? I mentioned this last night, that I was a little scared that we might be “showing amir off”… I can’t knock this notion. I’m still worried.

Maybe I’m just paranoid, but it is quite the coincidence… Four days ago Dumars mentions he’s talking to Webber and that he won’t buy out any of our contracts to open a roster spot. A trade is the only way Webber will end up a Piston.

Four days later, Amir gets his first non-garbage minutes.

So here’s a can of worms: would any of you move Johnson to put Webber in a Pistons uniform?

]]> By: Matt Gibson http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121611 Matt Gibson Thu, 24 Jan 2008 21:31:14 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121611 Lemming- If you want to watch http://broadband.nba.com/cc/playa.php?content=lpintl&url=http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nbacom/lp_archives/20080123_610.asx&gid=610 Just wait a minute for it to load. Its a stream. This is great about Amir, especially since a few days ago on here I was saying what has Brezec done to earn time and that Amir hasn't. I think Flip has learned that Brezec can't really rebound, play D or score. But I wonder if Joe Dumars got Brezec to light a fire under Amir's ass. If he thought of that and it worked, then Dumars is fucking amazing. Lemming- If you want to watch http://broadband.nba.com/cc/playa.php?content=lpintl&url=http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nbacom/lp_archives/20080123_610.asx&gid=610
Just wait a minute for it to load. Its a stream.

This is great about Amir, especially since a few days ago on here I was saying what has Brezec done to earn time and that Amir hasn’t. I think Flip has learned that Brezec can’t really rebound, play D or score.

But I wonder if Joe Dumars got Brezec to light a fire under Amir’s ass. If he thought of that and it worked, then Dumars is fucking amazing.

]]> By: Keegan http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121598 Keegan Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:58:28 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121598 Wait, I get it, "start to get more time." I was like, WTF?! Wait, I get it, “start to get more time.” I was like, WTF?!

]]> By: Keegan http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121597 Keegan Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:51:15 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121597 For a laugh, check out Blaha shilling for Amir like you won't believe: http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/blaha_blog_080124.html For a laugh, check out Blaha shilling for Amir like you won’t believe:

http://www.nba.com/pistons/news/blaha_blog_080124.html

]]> By: Keegan http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121596 Keegan Thu, 24 Jan 2008 20:45:55 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121596 Matt G - It's completely out of left field. I suppose I'd rather have a young guy bust his ass to get minutes instead of them just being handed to him. Amir's an athletic freak who's being taught by some of the best, and he won't quit working. It just seems like a winning formula. The fact that he's impressing in practice during a lengthy stretch where he wasn't seeing much action at all is pretty telling. That he's apparently earned his time is just icing on a sweet, sweet piece of cake for an Amir degenerate like me. Did Flip outright state that Amir could start? That bothered me all day at work... All these young guys playing rules. It makes the season much more interesting. Matt G - It’s completely out of left field. I suppose I’d rather have a young guy bust his ass to get minutes instead of them just being handed to him. Amir’s an athletic freak who’s being taught by some of the best, and he won’t quit working. It just seems like a winning formula. The fact that he’s impressing in practice during a lengthy stretch where he wasn’t seeing much action at all is pretty telling. That he’s apparently earned his time is just icing on a sweet, sweet piece of cake for an Amir degenerate like me.

Did Flip outright state that Amir could start? That bothered me all day at work…

All these young guys playing rules. It makes the season much more interesting.

]]> By: Q Dog http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121578 Q Dog Thu, 24 Jan 2008 19:10:03 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121578 I go on the road for a week and they drop 3 straight. Get home and they beat a boring Philly team. I'll take it! I go on the road for a week and they drop 3 straight. Get home and they beat a boring Philly team. I’ll take it!

]]> By: waltonlikesmen1 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121570 waltonlikesmen1 Thu, 24 Jan 2008 18:27:54 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121570 Amir displayed great potential last night,as he has before, let's just hope he gets to start seeing more minutes as Flip says he will. One fear that I have that is that Stuckey will be the first priority over Amir and Afflalo. While I understand that Stuckey brings an element with his game that the Pistons sorely lack (a player that can break down the defense and finish at the rim), I think that Afflalo's game looks more NBA ready than Stuckey's from what I've seen so far. Afterall, he did play for UCLA, was the Pac-Ten player of the year, and showed he has both a strong offensive and defensive game. Plus, he has great size and build for a guard in this league. And yes, he's only twenty, needs to bulk up, learn to play defense without fouling, and develope a better offensive game, Amir Johnson still has the potential to affect the team THIS season. It sounds like he's working hard at practice and his coaches are taking notice, so I'm not too worried about Amir's lack of minutes lately, he'll get his. Amir displayed great potential last night,as he has before, let’s just hope he gets to start seeing more minutes as Flip says he will. One fear that I have that is that Stuckey will be the first priority over Amir and Afflalo. While I understand that Stuckey brings an element with his game that the Pistons sorely lack (a player that can break down the defense and finish at the rim), I think that Afflalo’s game looks more NBA ready than Stuckey’s from what I’ve seen so far. Afterall, he did play for UCLA, was the Pac-Ten player of the year, and showed he has both a strong offensive and defensive game. Plus, he has great size and build for a guard in this league.

And yes, he’s only twenty, needs to bulk up, learn to play defense without fouling, and develope a better offensive game, Amir Johnson still has the potential to affect the team THIS season. It sounds like he’s working hard at practice and his coaches are taking notice, so I’m not too worried about Amir’s lack of minutes lately, he’ll get his.

]]> By: Lemming http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121545 Lemming Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:58:12 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121545 From Pistons.com: "Johnson finished with five points, five boards and two blocks. His best moment? Maybe stripping a rebound away from Smith and throwing down a reverse dunk to tie the game at 36, maybe flying from the lane out to the 3-point line in the corner to block a Gordan Giricek jumper that turned into a Pistons fast break, maybe grabbing Tayshaun Prince’s missed free throw to give the Pistons the last possession of the first half" Man I wish I had seen this game!! From Pistons.com: “Johnson finished with five points, five boards and two blocks. His best moment? Maybe stripping a rebound away from Smith and throwing down a reverse dunk to tie the game at 36, maybe flying from the lane out to the 3-point line in the corner to block a Gordan Giricek jumper that turned into a Pistons fast break, maybe grabbing Tayshaun Prince’s missed free throw to give the Pistons the last possession of the first half”

Man I wish I had seen this game!!

]]> By: Lemming http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121543 Lemming Thu, 24 Jan 2008 16:51:06 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121543 Amir!! I guarantee he'll pull a Tayshaun in the playoffs and do something ridiculously amazing we'll be talking about for years. Amir!! I guarantee he’ll pull a Tayshaun in the playoffs and do something ridiculously amazing we’ll be talking about for years.

]]> By: Rob G http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121514 Rob G Thu, 24 Jan 2008 14:33:57 +0000 http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-01-23/pistons-are-in-philly/#comment-121514 I think V has a point. They're saying that Amir showed his readiness during practice, so it sounds like any hope of CWebb coming back is stifled. While I want Webber back, I'm not at the practices, so I can't see what Amir can do. But if last night is any indication, this could be really positive. I think V has a point. They’re saying that Amir showed his readiness during practice, so it sounds like any hope of CWebb coming back is stifled. While I want Webber back, I’m not at the practices, so I can’t see what Amir can do. But if last night is any indication, this could be really positive.

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