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By: The Argentine Solution: Why Herrmann should replace Hayes | Detroit Bad Boys

Wed, 20 Feb 2008 17:53:39 +0000

[…] just a few days away, DetroitBadBoys.com has been abuzz with reader trade proposals. Some have been ambitious, others intriguing, while others yet have been strictly for entertainment. The common trait of many […]

By: James B.

James B. — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:56:34 +0000

um yeah i would take kapono and his 50.4% shooting from beyond the arc any day o’ the week.

I don’t know how interested Joe D will be in taking a contract that still has 3 years left on it, but could be an interesting move. I wouldn’t be surprised if Toronto would be interested in Hermann as he would fit their style of play very well.

A package of Hermann and Brezec, or preferably Brezec and Murray would clear up enough salary for Toronto to make a play at a legit 4th/5th option, or offer Delfino a larger contract as his contract is up at the end of this season.

Interesting trade though. I really like it.

By: Garrett

Garrett — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 19:07:43 +0000

Apparently Toronto is shopping Jason Kopono aruond…… I’m just saying.

By: James B.

James B. — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 17:01:09 +0000

I understand that Hermann probably won’t get meaningful minutes in the playoffs but wouldn’t it be smarter to have Flip Saunders get him more time in our system regardless? Fact is, is if there is an injury to Hayes or God forbid, Tayshaun, then Hermann will be playing and I’d much rather have him be a bit more comfortable in the system by playing him now.

Isn’t this exactly what Joe D. said? In order to play them in the playoffs you have to play them now? Going 10 deep in the playoffs is almost unheard of anymore, but that doesn’t mean it isn’t to our advantage to have a team that COULD go 11 or even 12 deep if need be.

Chances are the Pistons aren’t going to catch the Celtics, and even if they do, do they really want to be the 1 seed? Sure easy first round, but the 2nd seed will have an easy time too.

Second round on the other hand, assuming 1-4 wins, Boston would be playing Cleveland and we’d be playing Orlando.

I’d much rather play Orlando knowing how well we play them in the playoffs than play the Cleveland Lebrons.

By: Rob G

Rob G — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:50:36 +0000

I gotta believe we’re moving Flip for a draft pick, or something… but even if he doesn’t play another minute, his contract is expiring, so that’s no big deal either. I can’t think of a season where the team was so well structured. If Hayes doesn’t work out, we got Herrmann. If Aflallo doesn’t work out (which he will) we got Flip. Stuckey’s backed up by Hunter.

It seems to me that Joe D should go on a corporate speaking tour and talk about putting together great teams…

By: Craig

Craig — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:50:06 +0000

I wonder if Paxon would take expiring contracts for Gordon? Probably not, but damn, that would give us a huge punch off the bench.

By: Craig

Craig — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 16:34:07 +0000

Miller was 6th man of the year a couple of seasons ago, so it wouldn’t be a stretch for him to play that role for the stones. Maggette has been a player i liked for the stones for years, but I’m sure his professionalism is what keeps Joe uninterested. I thought Korver would have been another great addition to the bench. Hermann is a player who is capable of playing big minutes, but I think Joe has a plan that includes Hayes gunning when he gets minutes. Not sure if Hermann has that same mentality that joe wants. My first choice would be Miller, if he could be had for expiring contracts and draft picks. Didn’t think I’d be saying this, but it really doesn’t look like we need to do anything, though.

By: kevin s.

kevin s. — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 15:17:07 +0000

Hermann is a quality player, but we don’t have a spot for him. If we get to a point where Brezec is playing meaningful minutes in the playoffs, we are in trouble.

By: Sauce1977

Sauce1977 — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 09:14:40 +0000

Herrmann . . . “most similar at age” . . . Chris Crawford.

Hayes . . . Jud Buechler.

By: V

Tue, 19 Feb 2008 08:22:32 +0000

I like Hermann’s game too, but the problem is he’s the 11th guy in the rotation. Only way I see him getting minutes if there’s an injury or Jarvis plays his way out of the rotation.

By: James B.

James B. — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 07:19:01 +0000

I think we’d have a better chance in the playoffs keeping Brezec and Hermann and having Flip try and develop Hermann a bit. To be honest, I don’t think its “development” per se that Hermann needs, but time working within the offensive system in a game.

He’s got a good touch, is solid on defense (He is the Anti-Dirk.), takes the ball strong, and has hands the size of baseball mitts.

He’d be a good change of pace to Hayes and is clearly a defensive advantage over Hayes. I would love to see Flip give Hermann more burn at the 3 spot though. It seems like as of late he only puts him in when he wants to go small and he puts him in at the 4…

By: kevin s.

kevin s. — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 05:06:09 +0000

Hermann isn’t going to stick around and wait for minutes for a few years. He could start for a lot of teams, and he’ll sign a one year contract to prove himself.

By: Pistonian revolution

Pistonian revolution — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 04:07:21 +0000

why does everyone include walter herrmann in these prospective trades? yea yea, i know he has an expiring contract. but, if only flip utilized him more, he could be the scoring punch that all of you are apparently wishing for.

i think a lot of fans get excited just seeing any trade movement happening, even if its a bad trade. it gives them something to talk about. seems like the only thing herrmann does when he gets in the game is make good decisions and work within the offense- and score when he is given the chance. for some reason though, it seems like flip never runs any plays for him when he’s in.

Walter Herrmann is AWESOME.

By: Matt Watson

Matt Watson — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 03:02:16 +0000

Problem with your deal, joejoejoe, is that I’m pretty sure Wallace is regarded in Indy the same as Artest and Stephen Jackson are in Detroit. Wallace is the one who provoked Artest befor the Malice at the Palace, shoving him on the court and then tossing his headband at him after people separated them.

By: joejoejoe

joejoejoe — Tue, 19 Feb 2008 02:53:19 +0000

How’s this Central Division trade?

Bulls move Ben Wallace & Joe Smith to Indiana for Jermaine O’Neill

It opens minutes for the Bulls young bigs and it exchanges the money headaches of O’Neill and Wallace. Big Ben almost has a scarlet letter in Chicago at this point because he’s compared to Garnett and Gasol in deals the Bulls DIDN’T make. O’Neill might thrive in Chicago as a 25 minutes a game player ala Bill Cartwright. Wallace might thrive in Indiana where fans might have lower expectations and appreciate Wallace’s grit more than his always overblown superstar credentials.