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	<title>Comments on: Pistons, Magic, Game 2</title>
	<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/</link>
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	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 15:23:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132920</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 21:21:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132920</guid>
		<description>Thank you Ohad.  I'd hate to think what some fans would've been saying during the Patriots' first 18 games this past season were they fans of New England.  I find Prophecy's pessimism adorable in a little kid-like way (not actually trying to call Prophecy a little kid) and there's nothing wrong with worrying about the Pistons.  That's Prophecy's style and he owns up to it.  Going after a player just to incite reaction from others (as Boney has done) is not a tolerable style for DBB.   

Flip and Rip (in spite of his 4-18 performance yesterday) are doing nothing short of a fantastic job, as is every member of the Pistons squad.  Tay averaging over 60% from the field in eight playoff games?  Outrageous!  The boys are playing inspired ball right now and absolutely look every bit the part of NBA Champions.  I have had a tendency in the past to come down hard on Chauncey because I think he has an inflated ego and I always resented the "savior", "Mr. Big Shot" adulation he received from the fan base and at times the media.  He's slipped up in these games, but so has everyone else from Rip to Flip to even the superbly-playing Tayshaun.  Every guy on this squad, when called upon, has been getting the job done on the whole.  Every guy is proving his worth and bashing anyone at this point is just based on sheer dislike of particular guy, not his actual output.  

Boney's crusade against Rip has been turned up a few notches the past few days (not like Boney hating Rip is suddenly news), and it's inappropriate for DBB.  His reasons for not liking the guy seem to have little to nothing to do with Rip's actual production.  Worse, it seems like Boney derives pleasure from Rip's struggles.   You can dislike a guy's game or 'tude all you want (see: aforementioned displeasure I voiced about Chauncey) and argue that point logically (or emotionally in a reasonable manner) here, but celebrating and/or flaunting the failures of one of the Pistons is absolutely over the line and has no place here.  What makes DBB great is not just the diversity of opinion available (where this whole Rip bashing thing started out), but the tendency for the community to be generally respectful and promote intelligent debate regarding our beloved Pistons (and other matters).

We should keep it that way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you Ohad.  I&#8217;d hate to think what some fans would&#8217;ve been saying during the Patriots&#8217; first 18 games this past season were they fans of New England.  I find Prophecy&#8217;s pessimism adorable in a little kid-like way (not actually trying to call Prophecy a little kid) and there&#8217;s nothing wrong with worrying about the Pistons.  That&#8217;s Prophecy&#8217;s style and he owns up to it.  Going after a player just to incite reaction from others (as Boney has done) is not a tolerable style for DBB.   </p>
<p>Flip and Rip (in spite of his 4-18 performance yesterday) are doing nothing short of a fantastic job, as is every member of the Pistons squad.  Tay averaging over 60% from the field in eight playoff games?  Outrageous!  The boys are playing inspired ball right now and absolutely look every bit the part of NBA Champions.  I have had a tendency in the past to come down hard on Chauncey because I think he has an inflated ego and I always resented the &#8220;savior&#8221;, &#8220;Mr. Big Shot&#8221; adulation he received from the fan base and at times the media.  He&#8217;s slipped up in these games, but so has everyone else from Rip to Flip to even the superbly-playing Tayshaun.  Every guy on this squad, when called upon, has been getting the job done on the whole.  Every guy is proving his worth and bashing anyone at this point is just based on sheer dislike of particular guy, not his actual output.  </p>
<p>Boney&#8217;s crusade against Rip has been turned up a few notches the past few days (not like Boney hating Rip is suddenly news), and it&#8217;s inappropriate for DBB.  His reasons for not liking the guy seem to have little to nothing to do with Rip&#8217;s actual production.  Worse, it seems like Boney derives pleasure from Rip&#8217;s struggles.   You can dislike a guy&#8217;s game or &#8216;tude all you want (see: aforementioned displeasure I voiced about Chauncey) and argue that point logically (or emotionally in a reasonable manner) here, but celebrating and/or flaunting the failures of one of the Pistons is absolutely over the line and has no place here.  What makes DBB great is not just the diversity of opinion available (where this whole Rip bashing thing started out), but the tendency for the community to be generally respectful and promote intelligent debate regarding our beloved Pistons (and other matters).</p>
<p>We should keep it that way.</p>
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		<title>By: ohad</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132918</link>
		<dc:creator>ohad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 20:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132918</guid>
		<description>I agree wih LB. I could use a little less Rip (and Flip) bashing until the end of the series...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wih LB. I could use a little less Rip (and Flip) bashing until the end of the series&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Prophecy_Projectz</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132906</link>
		<dc:creator>Prophecy_Projectz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 19:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132906</guid>
		<description>D_town_fan_in_chi_town 
May 6th, 2008 at 9:49 am 
Prophecy you should change your name to Wrong. Sixers in Six? twice! This game over? Seriously, there’s nothing wrong with guessing wrong, just don’t call yourself Prophecy.

I love being wrong in these situations, I am the eternal pessimist. But allow me to stay on course and say I am very worried about Games 3 and 4...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>D_town_fan_in_chi_town<br />
May 6th, 2008 at 9:49 am<br />
Prophecy you should change your name to Wrong. Sixers in Six? twice! This game over? Seriously, there’s nothing wrong with guessing wrong, just don’t call yourself Prophecy.</p>
<p>I love being wrong in these situations, I am the eternal pessimist. But allow me to stay on course and say I am very worried about Games 3 and 4&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Toledo Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132898</link>
		<dc:creator>Toledo Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 18:00:52 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132898</guid>
		<description>To their credit, Van Gundy and the Magic players *didn't* whine about the 3-point shot/clock issue after the game.

Tayshaun is playing a lot of minutes.  I've been saying for literally years (since Corliss left) that Detroit really needed a decent backup SF.  It appears that Flip has lost confidence in Hayes.  Sure, Hayes's performance in his limited minutes in the Philly series was pretty mediocre.  But now we have a problem.  

We can't have Tay play 42+ minutes a game and expect him to do well down the line in the playoffs, assuming Detroit advances.  Do we want to play Herrmann significant minutes in tight games?  He really doesn't have much experience playing with our other main-rotation guys, and we still don't really know what he has.  The other option seems to be Afflalo in various three-guard permutations.  I love Aaron, but he's at a height disadvantage against most other SFs, and Detroit needs more offense off its bench.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To their credit, Van Gundy and the Magic players *didn&#8217;t* whine about the 3-point shot/clock issue after the game.</p>
<p>Tayshaun is playing a lot of minutes.  I&#8217;ve been saying for literally years (since Corliss left) that Detroit really needed a decent backup SF.  It appears that Flip has lost confidence in Hayes.  Sure, Hayes&#8217;s performance in his limited minutes in the Philly series was pretty mediocre.  But now we have a problem.  </p>
<p>We can&#8217;t have Tay play 42+ minutes a game and expect him to do well down the line in the playoffs, assuming Detroit advances.  Do we want to play Herrmann significant minutes in tight games?  He really doesn&#8217;t have much experience playing with our other main-rotation guys, and we still don&#8217;t really know what he has.  The other option seems to be Afflalo in various three-guard permutations.  I love Aaron, but he&#8217;s at a height disadvantage against most other SFs, and Detroit needs more offense off its bench.</p>
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		<title>By: D_town_fan_in_chi_town</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132890</link>
		<dc:creator>D_town_fan_in_chi_town</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 13:49:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132890</guid>
		<description>Prophecy you should change your name to Wrong.  Sixers in Six? twice! This game over?  Seriously, there's nothing wrong with guessing wrong, just don't call yourself Prophecy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Prophecy you should change your name to Wrong.  Sixers in Six? twice! This game over?  Seriously, there&#8217;s nothing wrong with guessing wrong, just don&#8217;t call yourself Prophecy.</p>
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		<title>By: JackDutch</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132887</link>
		<dc:creator>JackDutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 05:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132887</guid>
		<description>when i saw the headline about it being a questionable clock call, i thought it happened in the last couple minutes of the game. at the end of the 3rd is a controversy? puh-lease. the game could have gone 1000 different ways from there. there's somebody on that fanhouse link of matt's DEMANDING that the game be friggin' replayed! how far from reality do you find yourself where replaying the game is a reasonable course of action from a 3rd quarter clock malfunction? good lord.

i figured we lose one game to them based on insane 3 point shooting. and then i figured we'd lose one based on dwight howard going superman on us. well both kind of happened at the same time (33 of their 36 in the 3rd were from 3 and howard almost ended up with a 20-20), and we held on for the win. it'll be interesting to see if this game boosted or drained orlando's confidence.

jason maxiell picked a great time of year to play the best basketball of his career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>when i saw the headline about it being a questionable clock call, i thought it happened in the last couple minutes of the game. at the end of the 3rd is a controversy? puh-lease. the game could have gone 1000 different ways from there. there&#8217;s somebody on that fanhouse link of matt&#8217;s DEMANDING that the game be friggin&#8217; replayed! how far from reality do you find yourself where replaying the game is a reasonable course of action from a 3rd quarter clock malfunction? good lord.</p>
<p>i figured we lose one game to them based on insane 3 point shooting. and then i figured we&#8217;d lose one based on dwight howard going superman on us. well both kind of happened at the same time (33 of their 36 in the 3rd were from 3 and howard almost ended up with a 20-20), and we held on for the win. it&#8217;ll be interesting to see if this game boosted or drained orlando&#8217;s confidence.</p>
<p>jason maxiell picked a great time of year to play the best basketball of his career.</p>
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		<title>By: Sauce1977</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132886</link>
		<dc:creator>Sauce1977</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 05:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132886</guid>
		<description>lol Spartan Bob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol Spartan Bob.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132884</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 05:04:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132884</guid>
		<description>If the TNT clock is truly tied into the game clock, consider the following...

After the Prince to Wallace alley-oop, the clock stopped at 20.1 and then suddenly jumped to 19.9. That's .2 of a second. The clock showed 5.1 seconds before the Pistons in-bound, add the lost time and it seems we'd still be okay.

Therefore... screw it. In the words of Ron Jermemy, oops Stan Van Gundy, this whole clock stuff is "F*cking Bullsh*t." It's not our fault Minnesota sent us Spartan Bob.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If the TNT clock is truly tied into the game clock, consider the following&#8230;</p>
<p>After the Prince to Wallace alley-oop, the clock stopped at 20.1 and then suddenly jumped to 19.9. That&#8217;s .2 of a second. The clock showed 5.1 seconds before the Pistons in-bound, add the lost time and it seems we&#8217;d still be okay.</p>
<p>Therefore&#8230; screw it. In the words of Ron Jermemy, oops Stan Van Gundy, this whole clock stuff is &#8220;F*cking Bullsh*t.&#8221; It&#8217;s not our fault Minnesota sent us Spartan Bob.</p>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132883</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 05:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132883</guid>
		<description>Boney: Wow, Rip shot 4-18 tonight.  BFD.  Get a hobby outside of incessant Rip bashing, and please don't bring your rancor where it does not belong.  Tim Duncan went 1-9 and came up with 5 points in Game 1 against New Orleans.  You're going to tell me Tim Duncan's 19 and 11 per this season is voided by one crap performance?  You have no argument and you're just trying to incite a reaction (which fortunately for you, is a trick that still works on me).   Obviously a complete truth alludes you for some obsession with wasting our time by littering DBB with your minutia.  Seriously dude, Matt ought to ban you for all this incendiary crap you're spewing.  If I were running the place I would.  Take your vendetta somewhere morons might listen.  Try perkisabeast.com, I hear they welcome absurd opinions there based solely in fantasy.  If Matt ever commissions another piece of tripe like that authored by a jerk with an outlandish agenda who won't shut up even after the community as a whole calls for it, I for one, will go elsewhere.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Boney: Wow, Rip shot 4-18 tonight.  BFD.  Get a hobby outside of incessant Rip bashing, and please don&#8217;t bring your rancor where it does not belong.  Tim Duncan went 1-9 and came up with 5 points in Game 1 against New Orleans.  You&#8217;re going to tell me Tim Duncan&#8217;s 19 and 11 per this season is voided by one crap performance?  You have no argument and you&#8217;re just trying to incite a reaction (which fortunately for you, is a trick that still works on me).   Obviously a complete truth alludes you for some obsession with wasting our time by littering DBB with your minutia.  Seriously dude, Matt ought to ban you for all this incendiary crap you&#8217;re spewing.  If I were running the place I would.  Take your vendetta somewhere morons might listen.  Try perkisabeast.com, I hear they welcome absurd opinions there based solely in fantasy.  If Matt ever commissions another piece of tripe like that authored by a jerk with an outlandish agenda who won&#8217;t shut up even after the community as a whole calls for it, I for one, will go elsewhere.</p>
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		<title>By: IsraeliPiston</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132882</link>
		<dc:creator>IsraeliPiston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 04:58:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132882</guid>
		<description>Tayshun is playing way to many minutes - we need to find a way to let him rest - I say bring in Afflalo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tayshun is playing way to many minutes - we need to find a way to let him rest - I say bring in Afflalo</p>
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		<title>By: Slappy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132881</link>
		<dc:creator>Slappy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 04:24:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132881</guid>
		<description>So how do you take your NBA Finals, Mr. Stern? Lakers vs. Celtics, or Kobe vs. Lebron? Spurs haven't looked this bad since '02 vs. the Lakers, pre-Ginobili. No way Hornets (provided no miracles by Spurs) get past Lakers and no way do we see an '04 rematch! San Antonio was the one team to take out the Lakers, so consider it a pre-emptive strike.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how do you take your NBA Finals, Mr. Stern? Lakers vs. Celtics, or Kobe vs. Lebron? Spurs haven&#8217;t looked this bad since &#8216;02 vs. the Lakers, pre-Ginobili. No way Hornets (provided no miracles by Spurs) get past Lakers and no way do we see an &#8216;04 rematch! San Antonio was the one team to take out the Lakers, so consider it a pre-emptive strike.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin s.</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132880</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 03:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132880</guid>
		<description>Exactly.  If we're going to whine, how about noting the fact that there seems to be nothing the Pistons can do to earn a charge? Nelson and Dooling have free reign to simply throw themselves into the lane, whether or not we see it coming and establish position.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Exactly.  If we&#8217;re going to whine, how about noting the fact that there seems to be nothing the Pistons can do to earn a charge? Nelson and Dooling have free reign to simply throw themselves into the lane, whether or not we see it coming and establish position.</p>
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		<title>By: piñon lopez</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132878</link>
		<dc:creator>piñon lopez</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 03:21:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132878</guid>
		<description>i don't give a rat's dropping about the 3 pointer and the clock not working.  Who cares if they whine whine whine - not me - we won - and even without that probably would have - the loss is a loss and the only people who should bother being upset about it is orlando fans - cause its a loss for orlando and the team may as well focus on game 3 and not complain about that one issue.

secondly, i am glad I read the comments after the game - what is up with people saying "we're done" in the middle of the 3rd quarter? were we down by 25? wtf.  if you're a detroit fan get some cajones and post after the game if they blew it.  none the less, i thank everyone for the great drama, believing one minute and doubting the next.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i don&#8217;t give a rat&#8217;s dropping about the 3 pointer and the clock not working.  Who cares if they whine whine whine - not me - we won - and even without that probably would have - the loss is a loss and the only people who should bother being upset about it is orlando fans - cause its a loss for orlando and the team may as well focus on game 3 and not complain about that one issue.</p>
<p>secondly, i am glad I read the comments after the game - what is up with people saying &#8220;we&#8217;re done&#8221; in the middle of the 3rd quarter? were we down by 25? wtf.  if you&#8217;re a detroit fan get some cajones and post after the game if they blew it.  none the less, i thank everyone for the great drama, believing one minute and doubting the next.</p>
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		<title>By: Boney</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132877</link>
		<dc:creator>Boney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 03:15:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132877</guid>
		<description>4-18.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>4-18.</p>
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		<title>By: Sauce1977</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132876</link>
		<dc:creator>Sauce1977</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 02:58:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-05/pistons-magic-game-2/#comment-132876</guid>
		<description>Here's another sign of our own defensive strategy on their bigs, and how it worked: Rashard had 6 turnovers, Turkoglu had 6, and Howard had 5.  That's a hell of a lot of mistakes on offense.  We paid for it dearly in the 2nd half with fouls, but they paid for it just a little more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here&#8217;s another sign of our own defensive strategy on their bigs, and how it worked: Rashard had 6 turnovers, Turkoglu had 6, and Howard had 5.  That&#8217;s a hell of a lot of mistakes on offense.  We paid for it dearly in the 2nd half with fouls, but they paid for it just a little more.</p>
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