Comments on: Pictures don’t lie: Pistons caught (another) break

By: bull bill

bull bill — Sun, 18 May 2008 03:48:04 +0000

Mike Callahan arm up non-call is something the powers to be in the NBA should be looking at closely. It was a no brainer blocking foul that turned this game around. Refs should be suspended just like regular employess when they fail to do their job. Remember they work 2 hours 3 nights a week. Get it right, Mike!!

By: Boney

Boney — Tue, 13 May 2008 03:59:53 +0000

oh and I’m not trying to rack up my comment count here, but I saw the highlight again.

Maxey had his foot in the restricted area, but when contact is made his heel is in the air so “technically” the ref could argue he was out of the circle.

By: Boney

Boney — Tue, 13 May 2008 03:54:22 +0000

if we REALLY want to get into semantics, what about the flop by Rashard Lewis on the sideline in the 2nd quarter, which gave Rasheed his 3rd foul? going for a loose ball, Sheed raises his arm up and Rashard falls on the fans in the front row and a whistle is blown.

sure, all the calls are going against “the good guys”. Again, I appreciate the time you’ve taken but to take the other part of your time defending Jameer Nelson when this is not the first time he’s opened up his mouth and wrote a check that will inevitably bounce. Remember, he wanted Detroit in the 1st round last year because he felt that they matched up with Detroit better than any other team in the East?

yeah well, we know what happened then. No matter how you shine it up, a turd is still a turd.

By: Boney

Boney — Tue, 13 May 2008 03:49:04 +0000

I’m sorry, all of this “deal” is for nothing.

Ridiculous amounts of time are spent why this guy raised him arm, when on previous trips down the floor Orlando Magic players run over a guy in the paint, or Dwight Howard gets away from a push off for a rebound and an easy thunderdunk.

Same goes for Detroit.

Instead of spending time counting 5.22 instead of 5.1 seconds, and asking ourselves why a guy raised his arm on that one play but didn’t on all the other questionable calls, let’s just admit that Orlando is the 2007 Toronto Raptors which means:

The most counterfeit 3 seed in either conference.

I appreciate Matt’s kind words on the title “Pistons caught (another) break”. It’s all peaches and roses here you know, we like Ben Q. Rock you know but, it’s the playoffs. Man up, grab your sack, and take a flagrant foul to make a statement. Playoff highlights don’t involve footage of Hedo Turkeyloo brushing his hair and Rashard Lewis polishing his shoes before going out to bomb 30 3 pointers per game with a orange and white panel basketball. Playoff basketball is bruises, missed calls, hard fouls, bodies falling on the ground…

Sorry for those of you that are not experienced in how the playoffs work, but calls get missed. Piston fans experienced it last year when every time LeBron threw his head back on a drive, a foul was called. When Billups did that, not only did he turn over the ball but he didn’t get back on D.

By: Phil Saunders

Phil Saunders — Tue, 13 May 2008 03:48:15 +0000

great defensive call on that last play by the staff. Artwork in motion, nothing less.

By: Jason

Jason — Tue, 13 May 2008 03:31:27 +0000

Ben,

Good stuff. I’m sure you would never find any such complaining round here (umm last year Bron Bron Whistle, or 2 years ago DWade whistle).

On second review that may have been Stuckey instead of Hunter, but the point stands; it’s a better game w/o the whistle on those plays.

Good recovery, I think you’ve earned a little respect round here.

By: joejoejoe

joejoejoe — Tue, 13 May 2008 03:11:35 +0000

Kudos to Ben Q. Rock. That’s some great original reporting.

By: Sauce1977

Sauce1977 — Tue, 13 May 2008 02:42:57 +0000

I disagree, the Pistons have been screwed by non-calls at any time of the season over the last 2 years, within those final seconds. Cry Stan a river. He’s a good coach, he’s just doing this to save his team some bit of a place for improvement next year, which they should do.

Refs don’t want to decide a game on the line. It’s incredulous to many fans when that happens. They scream for the players to decide the game, not the refs. Then in instances like this, they want the refs to get the call right.

I hate the referees, but this is a waste of time. Here’s my charity . . . TL;DR. Sorry, Magic.

By: Ben Q. Rock

Ben Q. Rock — Tue, 13 May 2008 02:40:11 +0000

Jason (and others):

I posted LB’s explanation of Callahan’s no-call and a frame-by-frame look at the offensive foul that should have been called on Keyon Dooling, but wasn’t.

http://www.thirdquartercollapse.com/2008/5/12/508427/another-theory-on-that-no

By: ball_don't_lie

ball_don't_lie — Tue, 13 May 2008 02:21:45 +0000

I must say that considering what you had to work with that was a good breakdown of the play. I will also say that this has got to be on of the worst reffed series I have watched in awhile! This series could be in favor of either team if a call here or a call there went in favor of the other team. But I will also say that I would have been shocked if we lost this series (No doubt Orlando is a quality team to lose to though). But all in all this was a horribly reffed series and I am glad that it is almost over. Though I will say that I would rather know that we won this series fair and square with equal officiating on both sides of the ball, but I am also glad to see that we are most likely (unless for a freak injury or something) going to our SIXTH STRAIGHT CONFERENCE FINALS!!!!!

By: Ben Q. Rock

Ben Q. Rock — Tue, 13 May 2008 02:09:18 +0000

Jason,

I’m editing the screengrabs now. Shouldn’t be too much longer.

By: Jason

Jason — Tue, 13 May 2008 00:17:07 +0000

“I’d be happy to take a look at that play if I had it on video.”

Yo Ben, has the video of the no-call in the Magic favor loaded yet?
1:16 -1:19 mark of the linked video on your blog…

Still missing your frame by frame on that one in the interest of objectivity…

Can you at least admit that’s the same play, but out of the circle. No call in Magic’s favor, seems even to me.

By: Ben Q. Rock

Ben Q. Rock — Mon, 12 May 2008 23:58:47 +0000

Right. I wish I had the technology that sites like Odenized, Need4Sheed, and PickaxeAndRoll have to take clearer video, but I work with what I have: Firefox and Apple GrabIt (or whatever their version of PrintScreen is called).

And as I mentioned in the post, it was hard for me to see the play in real time because of where I was in the arena: upper bowl, on the opposite side of the floor (think the old NBA Live videogame corner angle).

The right team won the game, there’s no question about that.

By: LawyerBoy

LawyerBoy — Mon, 12 May 2008 23:55:43 +0000

*if it involved … sorry for the triple post.

By: LawyerBoy

LawyerBoy — Mon, 12 May 2008 23:55:16 +0000

Ben Q.: In the interest of full disclosure/fairness, in real time, I did NOT see Maxiell’s foot in the restricted area, so I was thinking charge myself. I can honestly say that if involved some other team’s player, charge is the call I would’ve made on the spot in real time had the shot dropped and no call if it hadn’t. Of course, had I seen the left foot, I might’ve called a block, though I might’ve called a no-call as well.