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	<title>Comments on: Dumars talks about the playoffs, Stuckey and Tay&#8217;s block</title>
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		<title>By: Have the Pistons made a promise to DJ White? &#124; Detroit Bad Boys</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-15/dumars-talks-about-the-playoffs-stuckey-and-tays-block/#comment-136929</link>
		<dc:creator>Have the Pistons made a promise to DJ White? &#124; Detroit Bad Boys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 00:40:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] draft, but the name DJ White did ring a bell. After hitting up Google, I realized why: our own LawyerBoy was talking up White in the comments just a couple of weeks ago:  I’d like to take a long look at D.J. White who [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] draft, but the name DJ White did ring a bell. After hitting up Google, I realized why: our own LawyerBoy was talking up White in the comments just a couple of weeks ago:  I’d like to take a long look at D.J. White who [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-15/dumars-talks-about-the-playoffs-stuckey-and-tays-block/#comment-134808</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 May 2008 18:08:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ: In my mind, it's hard to make a convincing case for Hickson at 3.  It's not his athleticism that determines his NBA position (dude has a Tay-like wingspan and rather quick feet), it's his lack of "3" tendencies.  He has no jumper and doesn't like to face up to the basket; he's a classic 4.  I'm not sure that he feel comfortable guarding the perimeter on defense either.  He's really young and I think he's as unpolished as Amir was coming out of HS.  I'm not terribly interested in us going with a "project"; I'd prefer a more immediate impact even if the long-term upside is smaller.  If we want a 4 who has less downside and less time to wait on, I say Richard Hendrix out of Alabama.  

Obviously though, 4 seems to be one of the lowest concerns on the totem pole. I think it's safe to say everyone wants either a 3 or a legit 5 (6'11 or taller), and at worst, maybe a 2.  I love DeVon Hardin for this team.  What can I say?  I think his deficiencies aren't terribly important in the Pistons game and his strengths are quite complimentary to our squad.  I think there is a very real possibility of us taking him (perhaps based on my own hopes), and if it stays that way, we'll hear about it in the manner we knew Stuckey was getting picked at #15.  

I'm sorry to be so contentious about this point, but I just don't think Afflalo (and though I like him, I think Courtney Lee is the same player, slightly better) can handle defending the 3.  If Rush were available, I think he's the most reasonable of the "3" crop.  He's experienced, has a nice shooting touch.  I don't see him having a huge career (he is a Rush, after all), but I see him being solid enough to make a decent backup.  I would be satisfied with Robin Lopez too.  Outside of Hardin, the more I look at this draft, I don't really see anyone in our pick range. 

The 4 guys you have tutoring Hibbert can all move (even Dice looks like he jumps out of the gym and has the lateral quickness of in-his-prime Ben Wallace compared to Hibbert).  Hibbert is a statute.  I don't see the comparison or what they can help him with (amid his athletic limitations) at all.  His draft status is dropping like a lead balloon, and I couldn't be happier.  Joe is smart enough to take that as an indication to stay away.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ: In my mind, it&#8217;s hard to make a convincing case for Hickson at 3.  It&#8217;s not his athleticism that determines his NBA position (dude has a Tay-like wingspan and rather quick feet), it&#8217;s his lack of &#8220;3&#8243; tendencies.  He has no jumper and doesn&#8217;t like to face up to the basket; he&#8217;s a classic 4.  I&#8217;m not sure that he feel comfortable guarding the perimeter on defense either.  He&#8217;s really young and I think he&#8217;s as unpolished as Amir was coming out of HS.  I&#8217;m not terribly interested in us going with a &#8220;project&#8221;; I&#8217;d prefer a more immediate impact even if the long-term upside is smaller.  If we want a 4 who has less downside and less time to wait on, I say Richard Hendrix out of Alabama.  </p>
<p>Obviously though, 4 seems to be one of the lowest concerns on the totem pole. I think it&#8217;s safe to say everyone wants either a 3 or a legit 5 (6&#8242;11 or taller), and at worst, maybe a 2.  I love DeVon Hardin for this team.  What can I say?  I think his deficiencies aren&#8217;t terribly important in the Pistons game and his strengths are quite complimentary to our squad.  I think there is a very real possibility of us taking him (perhaps based on my own hopes), and if it stays that way, we&#8217;ll hear about it in the manner we knew Stuckey was getting picked at #15.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m sorry to be so contentious about this point, but I just don&#8217;t think Afflalo (and though I like him, I think Courtney Lee is the same player, slightly better) can handle defending the 3.  If Rush were available, I think he&#8217;s the most reasonable of the &#8220;3&#8243; crop.  He&#8217;s experienced, has a nice shooting touch.  I don&#8217;t see him having a huge career (he is a Rush, after all), but I see him being solid enough to make a decent backup.  I would be satisfied with Robin Lopez too.  Outside of Hardin, the more I look at this draft, I don&#8217;t really see anyone in our pick range. </p>
<p>The 4 guys you have tutoring Hibbert can all move (even Dice looks like he jumps out of the gym and has the lateral quickness of in-his-prime Ben Wallace compared to Hibbert).  Hibbert is a statute.  I don&#8217;t see the comparison or what they can help him with (amid his athletic limitations) at all.  His draft status is dropping like a lead balloon, and I couldn&#8217;t be happier.  Joe is smart enough to take that as an indication to stay away.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-15/dumars-talks-about-the-playoffs-stuckey-and-tays-block/#comment-134774</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 20:13:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LB: I think Robin Lopez is a young Ben Wallace, I wouldn't want to see the Pistons go back to a four man offense.  

I am not arguing that Detroit should trade up for Hibbert, I am only arguing that as a big, Hibbert would fit in with Detroits half court offense, with McDyess retiring soon (next year) and Rasheed's career winding down, and Samb a question mark, Hibbert appears to fit our half-court-slow-it-down-style of play.  Defensively, Hibbert isn't a slouch, positioned on the low block, and with the tutelage of Rasheed, Maxiell, Ratliff and McDyess, the lad has serious upside.  I only pointed out the obvious (...with Hayes, Hermann and the Delfino 2nd round picks, we may be able to trade up for Rush or Hibbert.) to simply throw some meat into the proverbial dsicussion pen.  If I had my druthers, we would pack pounds on Amir, make him a 5 and work Samb into the lineup S L O W L Y, and during this next draft get a "...a (very?) poor man’s Rip" and work Afflalo at SF, keep all the mid level cap space for a mid season pick up IF we needed it.  Hell lets get younger, and work to stay younger.

LB, What is your take on JJ Hickson?  is he athletic enough to move from the 4 to the 3?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LB: I think Robin Lopez is a young Ben Wallace, I wouldn&#8217;t want to see the Pistons go back to a four man offense.  </p>
<p>I am not arguing that Detroit should trade up for Hibbert, I am only arguing that as a big, Hibbert would fit in with Detroits half court offense, with McDyess retiring soon (next year) and Rasheed&#8217;s career winding down, and Samb a question mark, Hibbert appears to fit our half-court-slow-it-down-style of play.  Defensively, Hibbert isn&#8217;t a slouch, positioned on the low block, and with the tutelage of Rasheed, Maxiell, Ratliff and McDyess, the lad has serious upside.  I only pointed out the obvious (&#8230;with Hayes, Hermann and the Delfino 2nd round picks, we may be able to trade up for Rush or Hibbert.) to simply throw some meat into the proverbial dsicussion pen.  If I had my druthers, we would pack pounds on Amir, make him a 5 and work Samb into the lineup S L O W L Y, and during this next draft get a &#8220;&#8230;a (very?) poor man’s Rip&#8221; and work Afflalo at SF, keep all the mid level cap space for a mid season pick up IF we needed it.  Hell lets get younger, and work to stay younger.</p>
<p>LB, What is your take on JJ Hickson?  is he athletic enough to move from the 4 to the 3?</p>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-15/dumars-talks-about-the-playoffs-stuckey-and-tays-block/#comment-134745</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 01:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JD: What is that bad in your opinion about Matt Barnes?  Perhaps my suggestion of signing him for just over mid-level exception money was littered with hyperbole, but is he really worse than our options currently on our roster?  Who's the answer at backup SF?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JD: What is that bad in your opinion about Matt Barnes?  Perhaps my suggestion of signing him for just over mid-level exception money was littered with hyperbole, but is he really worse than our options currently on our roster?  Who&#8217;s the answer at backup SF?</p>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-15/dumars-talks-about-the-playoffs-stuckey-and-tays-block/#comment-134744</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 01:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ: Last year, Hibbert was consistently rated in the Top 5-10 prospects, now there's essentially no chance he's even taken in the lottery.  It's not because this draft class is miraculously stacked versus last year, it's because Hibbert's limitations are so glaring.  The best this guy can be is Big Z (without making FTs like Z does), not because DraftExpress said it (I'm aware they don't have a crystal ball), but because if you ever watch him play, he can't move.  There is no upside for that at all.  None.  He can't be more athletic over time, he could only develop a post-up game he's never used, and if that happens, it won't happen in less than three years.  If Hibbert's jumper falls consistently as you suggest, on the offensive end he's going to be spending all his time outside the paint.  Have we enjoyed when Sheed does that?  I haven't.  Hibbert is going to have a lot more immediate impact than other rookies, but it's not going to be an awesome impact.

I don't think DeVon Hardin is automatically the answer either, I'd like to take a long look at D.J. White who I've followed religious as an IU alum since he first set foot in Assembly Hall for Indiana University.  As a five-star prospect (#15 overall in 2004 for Rivals.com) I was disappointed a lot in D.J. and thought he was inconsistent for the first three years of his career.  This year however, the guy absolutely blew me away.  I had no faith in him for this year and he wasn't just good this year, he was DOMINANT during a tumultuous season where he got his 3rd head coach of his IU career mid-season!  He has a weird game at about 6'8 245, but he's like Maxiell minus the freakish athleticism (read: leaping ability &#38; explosiveness) and plus a little more offensive savvy with his back to the basket.  White plays his behind off on every single play on both sides. D.J. is incredibly strong and he has a nice midrange jumper with a full compliment of post moves.  He could be a useful guy in the league, he may not be.  

Point is, I dunno who the best guy is for this squad at #29, but drafting solely on height is a bad idea in my book.  Roy Hibbert is NOT a good draft pick and the odds of him ever being a solid starter in this league are incredibly slim.  Trading up for him would make me violently ill and I sincerely doubt Joe is that masochistic.  DJ, do you like Robin Lopez?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ: Last year, Hibbert was consistently rated in the Top 5-10 prospects, now there&#8217;s essentially no chance he&#8217;s even taken in the lottery.  It&#8217;s not because this draft class is miraculously stacked versus last year, it&#8217;s because Hibbert&#8217;s limitations are so glaring.  The best this guy can be is Big Z (without making FTs like Z does), not because DraftExpress said it (I&#8217;m aware they don&#8217;t have a crystal ball), but because if you ever watch him play, he can&#8217;t move.  There is no upside for that at all.  None.  He can&#8217;t be more athletic over time, he could only develop a post-up game he&#8217;s never used, and if that happens, it won&#8217;t happen in less than three years.  If Hibbert&#8217;s jumper falls consistently as you suggest, on the offensive end he&#8217;s going to be spending all his time outside the paint.  Have we enjoyed when Sheed does that?  I haven&#8217;t.  Hibbert is going to have a lot more immediate impact than other rookies, but it&#8217;s not going to be an awesome impact.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think DeVon Hardin is automatically the answer either, I&#8217;d like to take a long look at D.J. White who I&#8217;ve followed religious as an IU alum since he first set foot in Assembly Hall for Indiana University.  As a five-star prospect (#15 overall in 2004 for Rivals.com) I was disappointed a lot in D.J. and thought he was inconsistent for the first three years of his career.  This year however, the guy absolutely blew me away.  I had no faith in him for this year and he wasn&#8217;t just good this year, he was DOMINANT during a tumultuous season where he got his 3rd head coach of his IU career mid-season!  He has a weird game at about 6&#8242;8 245, but he&#8217;s like Maxiell minus the freakish athleticism (read: leaping ability &amp; explosiveness) and plus a little more offensive savvy with his back to the basket.  White plays his behind off on every single play on both sides. D.J. is incredibly strong and he has a nice midrange jumper with a full compliment of post moves.  He could be a useful guy in the league, he may not be.  </p>
<p>Point is, I dunno who the best guy is for this squad at #29, but drafting solely on height is a bad idea in my book.  Roy Hibbert is NOT a good draft pick and the odds of him ever being a solid starter in this league are incredibly slim.  Trading up for him would make me violently ill and I sincerely doubt Joe is that masochistic.  DJ, do you like Robin Lopez?</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-15/dumars-talks-about-the-playoffs-stuckey-and-tays-block/#comment-134743</link>
		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 00:25:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LB: I see your not a Roy Hibbert Fan.  I think your analysis is a bit flawed though, Detroit plays a slow half court game, the kids like to run, but I don't see too many NBA franchises with a fast, athletic 5 starting or coming off the bench, although there are exceptions.  Second, His numbers were down this year because he was working on extending his range, he has a good inside game and spent time in his Senior year developing some range (12'-15'), I don't see a problem with that.  Also, with regards to Draftexpress, they were pretty high on Darko Milicic and they appear to be wrong on his abiliities and impact, Hibbert has "upside" and would be a wonderful project in my opinion. Why is Afflalo relegated to SG? Solely because he is 6'5"?  Afflalo may not yet be ready to start, but his defense is good enough to slow down any perimeter shooter, I think that is a significant point for a backup, his offense will come with time, he has the skills to develope into a fine 3.  Also, with Hunter moving to the front office, we will another Guard, Kyle Weaver can fill that role (he too would be an intersting project).  Regardless, I don't think anyone seen the Stuckey pick at this point last year, Joe D probably has another hidden gem on his list.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LB: I see your not a Roy Hibbert Fan.  I think your analysis is a bit flawed though, Detroit plays a slow half court game, the kids like to run, but I don&#8217;t see too many NBA franchises with a fast, athletic 5 starting or coming off the bench, although there are exceptions.  Second, His numbers were down this year because he was working on extending his range, he has a good inside game and spent time in his Senior year developing some range (12&#8242;-15&#8242;), I don&#8217;t see a problem with that.  Also, with regards to Draftexpress, they were pretty high on Darko Milicic and they appear to be wrong on his abiliities and impact, Hibbert has &#8220;upside&#8221; and would be a wonderful project in my opinion. Why is Afflalo relegated to SG? Solely because he is 6&#8242;5&#8243;?  Afflalo may not yet be ready to start, but his defense is good enough to slow down any perimeter shooter, I think that is a significant point for a backup, his offense will come with time, he has the skills to develope into a fine 3.  Also, with Hunter moving to the front office, we will another Guard, Kyle Weaver can fill that role (he too would be an intersting project).  Regardless, I don&#8217;t think anyone seen the Stuckey pick at this point last year, Joe D probably has another hidden gem on his list.</p>
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		<title>By: Quick Darshan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quick Darshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:58:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I say we draft Mamadou Samb and have the Twin Stick Towers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I say we draft Mamadou Samb and have the Twin Stick Towers.</p>
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		<title>By: JackDutch</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-15/dumars-talks-about-the-playoffs-stuckey-and-tays-block/#comment-134737</link>
		<dc:creator>JackDutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 21:50:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i hate matt barnes. that is hands-down, your worst idea EVER, lb. he should be paying US for the honor of playing on the detroit f-ing pistons.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i hate matt barnes. that is hands-down, your worst idea EVER, lb. he should be paying US for the honor of playing on the detroit f-ing pistons.</p>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-15/dumars-talks-about-the-playoffs-stuckey-and-tays-block/#comment-134730</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As an aside, for some more DraftExpress musings:

Brandon Rush - Best case: Eddie Jones Worst case: Kelenna Azubuike

DeVon Hardin - Best case: Nene Worst case: Jamal Sampson

Courtney Lee - Best case: Anthony Parker Worst case: Thabo Sefolosha.

I don't take too much stock in these reports other than the current NBA players whose game they resemble.  I mean Azubuike, Nene and Sefolosha, we have no idea who they're going to end up being, so why compare players to them already?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As an aside, for some more DraftExpress musings:</p>
<p>Brandon Rush - Best case: Eddie Jones Worst case: Kelenna Azubuike</p>
<p>DeVon Hardin - Best case: Nene Worst case: Jamal Sampson</p>
<p>Courtney Lee - Best case: Anthony Parker Worst case: Thabo Sefolosha.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t take too much stock in these reports other than the current NBA players whose game they resemble.  I mean Azubuike, Nene and Sefolosha, we have no idea who they&#8217;re going to end up being, so why compare players to them already?</p>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-05-15/dumars-talks-about-the-playoffs-stuckey-and-tays-block/#comment-134729</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 18:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DJ: Roy Hibbert is slow footed and there is no doubt in my mind he is mediocre on his best day.  Joe D. is not dumb enough to trade up for him.  Here's a guy who was as high as #5 on DraftExpress's mock draft at this point last year and since he's had a forgettable senior year exposing his weaknesses, he's now slated to go at #20.  Once people really got to see that he's dominant because his size is a rarity in college, not his limited skill set, they realized he's not special.  DraftExpress says that best case is he's Big Z and worst case is he's Boniface Ndong.  They're exactly right.  He has NO athleticism (sounds like Big Z to me), but I don't think he quite has the savvy of Big Z or the shooting consistency.  If he does and his jumper holds up, he's Big Z 2.0 at best (which isn't that bad in a plodding half court offense I suppose), but he's really a slightly stronger/thicker version of Big Z (all strength, no mobility).  I wouldn't want to put my first round eggs into that basket.  He plays face-up to the basket like a mobile guy (and Z), but he's built more like a huge tank.  Bad news by me.

DeVon Hardin on the other hand, is a little bit more of raw talent banking on that overused word: "upside".  He's got freakish athleticism that needs to be molded.  All signs point to him being of good character (obviously huge on our team).  You are right that the guy is very limited offensively, but they aren't things that can't be coached to some degree, whereas with Hibbert you're stuck with a lumbering body and you just gotta hope the shot falls.  In Hardin, he's more of a project, but that's who the Pistons tend to have the most success with outside of Darko (Maxiell, Stuckey ...).

Courtney Lee is a mildly better version of Afflalo offensively and maybe at best, equal on defense.  I like him, trust me, but why draft him on this team?  I also disagree with a contention that Afflalo at 6'5, 200 lbs. (Lee is 6'5 and 205) is a legit 3.  He's an SG in today's NBA, period. 

Brandon Rush is a (very?) poor man's Rip.  Is that enough for a backup SG?  Maybe, I'm not going to say it's not.

I came up with a solution for SF this morning: Matt Barnes.  Dude would fit perfectly on our team and just happens to be an FA this year.  Toss him ridiculous dough so he can't say no ($6-7 mil/year) from Lindsey, Dixon, Hayes and Hermann's contact, and bingo.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DJ: Roy Hibbert is slow footed and there is no doubt in my mind he is mediocre on his best day.  Joe D. is not dumb enough to trade up for him.  Here&#8217;s a guy who was as high as #5 on DraftExpress&#8217;s mock draft at this point last year and since he&#8217;s had a forgettable senior year exposing his weaknesses, he&#8217;s now slated to go at #20.  Once people really got to see that he&#8217;s dominant because his size is a rarity in college, not his limited skill set, they realized he&#8217;s not special.  DraftExpress says that best case is he&#8217;s Big Z and worst case is he&#8217;s Boniface Ndong.  They&#8217;re exactly right.  He has NO athleticism (sounds like Big Z to me), but I don&#8217;t think he quite has the savvy of Big Z or the shooting consistency.  If he does and his jumper holds up, he&#8217;s Big Z 2.0 at best (which isn&#8217;t that bad in a plodding half court offense I suppose), but he&#8217;s really a slightly stronger/thicker version of Big Z (all strength, no mobility).  I wouldn&#8217;t want to put my first round eggs into that basket.  He plays face-up to the basket like a mobile guy (and Z), but he&#8217;s built more like a huge tank.  Bad news by me.</p>
<p>DeVon Hardin on the other hand, is a little bit more of raw talent banking on that overused word: &#8220;upside&#8221;.  He&#8217;s got freakish athleticism that needs to be molded.  All signs point to him being of good character (obviously huge on our team).  You are right that the guy is very limited offensively, but they aren&#8217;t things that can&#8217;t be coached to some degree, whereas with Hibbert you&#8217;re stuck with a lumbering body and you just gotta hope the shot falls.  In Hardin, he&#8217;s more of a project, but that&#8217;s who the Pistons tend to have the most success with outside of Darko (Maxiell, Stuckey &#8230;).</p>
<p>Courtney Lee is a mildly better version of Afflalo offensively and maybe at best, equal on defense.  I like him, trust me, but why draft him on this team?  I also disagree with a contention that Afflalo at 6&#8242;5, 200 lbs. (Lee is 6&#8242;5 and 205) is a legit 3.  He&#8217;s an SG in today&#8217;s NBA, period. </p>
<p>Brandon Rush is a (very?) poor man&#8217;s Rip.  Is that enough for a backup SG?  Maybe, I&#8217;m not going to say it&#8217;s not.</p>
<p>I came up with a solution for SF this morning: Matt Barnes.  Dude would fit perfectly on our team and just happens to be an FA this year.  Toss him ridiculous dough so he can&#8217;t say no ($6-7 mil/year) from Lindsey, Dixon, Hayes and Hermann&#8217;s contact, and bingo.</p>
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		<title>By: DJ</title>
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		<dc:creator>DJ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:12:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TJ,LB, IP: Afflalo at 3 makes more sense than drafting or trading for a back up SF, he has the ability to guard all three perimieter positions and his offense is coming around, the young man has game! I would prefer to get a good high shooting percentage 2 to back up Rip (Shooting Guards that may be available and will complement our roster are Courtney Lee (Western KY), Bryce Taylor (Oregon) and Kyle Weaver (Wazoo).)  LB: I haven't been able to follow Cal so I do not have much to go on, doesn't DeVon Hardin have the same type of game as Dwight Howard?  In the little I have seen of him, he seems to be a defensive stud, but get one foot out of the paint and he lays bricks. I don't think that would meld well with the youngsters we have. I think a better fit would be Roy Hibbert although I predict he will be gone, then there is JJ Hickson out of NC State, he would be a good fit (again I have seen him play only a half dozen times or so and have NO CLUE about his character-something that seems important to Joe D.)  As far as threes though, there is a chance Brandon Rush may fall to the bottom of the first round, or with Hayes, Hermann and the Delfino 2nd round picks, we may be able to trade up for Rush or Hibbert.  Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TJ,LB, IP: Afflalo at 3 makes more sense than drafting or trading for a back up SF, he has the ability to guard all three perimieter positions and his offense is coming around, the young man has game! I would prefer to get a good high shooting percentage 2 to back up Rip (Shooting Guards that may be available and will complement our roster are Courtney Lee (Western KY), Bryce Taylor (Oregon) and Kyle Weaver (Wazoo).)  LB: I haven&#8217;t been able to follow Cal so I do not have much to go on, doesn&#8217;t DeVon Hardin have the same type of game as Dwight Howard?  In the little I have seen of him, he seems to be a defensive stud, but get one foot out of the paint and he lays bricks. I don&#8217;t think that would meld well with the youngsters we have. I think a better fit would be Roy Hibbert although I predict he will be gone, then there is JJ Hickson out of NC State, he would be a good fit (again I have seen him play only a half dozen times or so and have NO CLUE about his character-something that seems important to Joe D.)  As far as threes though, there is a chance Brandon Rush may fall to the bottom of the first round, or with Hayes, Hermann and the Delfino 2nd round picks, we may be able to trade up for Rush or Hibbert.  Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
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		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 16:10:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QD, I'd like to agree with you, but it's well known the other Mr. D has made it clear he doesn't want to be paying for coaches who no longer coach for the Pistons. In which case, Joe D is stuck with Flip. 

That being said, who would replace him? Flip was best available at the time he got hired, and probably is the best now (although somehow I see Michael Curry coaching the Pistons sometime down the road). 

Actually, Flip has done a better job this year, but I still think Joe D has had a lot to do with it. A lot of the regular season's strategy about playing the bench and developing the younger players came from Joe, not from Flip.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QD, I&#8217;d like to agree with you, but it&#8217;s well known the other Mr. D has made it clear he doesn&#8217;t want to be paying for coaches who no longer coach for the Pistons. In which case, Joe D is stuck with Flip. </p>
<p>That being said, who would replace him? Flip was best available at the time he got hired, and probably is the best now (although somehow I see Michael Curry coaching the Pistons sometime down the road). </p>
<p>Actually, Flip has done a better job this year, but I still think Joe D has had a lot to do with it. A lot of the regular season&#8217;s strategy about playing the bench and developing the younger players came from Joe, not from Flip.</p>
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		<title>By: Quick Darshan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Quick Darshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 05:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>rj, Dumars doesn't make veiled indictments.  If he didn't think Flip could get the job done, he'd have fired him when he had the chance.  And if he had a problem with the way Flip was doing things, I'm sure he would say something.

It amazes me how people just think Flip is going all cowboy on him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>rj, Dumars doesn&#8217;t make veiled indictments.  If he didn&#8217;t think Flip could get the job done, he&#8217;d have fired him when he had the chance.  And if he had a problem with the way Flip was doing things, I&#8217;m sure he would say something.</p>
<p>It amazes me how people just think Flip is going all cowboy on him.</p>
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		<title>By: rj</title>
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		<dc:creator>rj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 04:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this whole interview sounds like a veiled indictment towards flip</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this whole interview sounds like a veiled indictment towards flip</p>
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		<title>By: IsraeliPiston</title>
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		<dc:creator>IsraeliPiston</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 21:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>look for rip to play small forward and give tayshun some rest with Stuckey coming in at the 2

I also expect to see more of afflalo in the finals at the 2 and 3 with chancey at the 1 whenever Afflalo is in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>look for rip to play small forward and give tayshun some rest with Stuckey coming in at the 2</p>
<p>I also expect to see more of afflalo in the finals at the 2 and 3 with chancey at the 1 whenever Afflalo is in.</p>
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