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	<title>Comments on: Joe Dumars: &#8220;Everybody&#8217;s in play&#8221;</title>
	<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/</link>
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	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 14:23:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ball Hog</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139141</link>
		<dc:creator>Ball Hog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 05:43:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Joe's short list of coaching candidates should have included: Billy Lam, Isaiah and Mark Jackson. I think all three would command respect from the players, fire them up and relate to them well. Isaiah and Mark would help Stuckey develop and Billy Lam would set a fire under Sheed.

I don't think Joe D should get rid of Sheed or any of the other starters. He should add a few free agents that are gritty, blue collar players that will fit in the system. I think Ron Artest(player option), Andres Nocioni and Eduardo Najera are all available. In addition, I think Ryan Gomes would be a good, young talent to add to the team that can score off the bench.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Joe&#8217;s short list of coaching candidates should have included: Billy Lam, Isaiah and Mark Jackson. I think all three would command respect from the players, fire them up and relate to them well. Isaiah and Mark would help Stuckey develop and Billy Lam would set a fire under Sheed.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Joe D should get rid of Sheed or any of the other starters. He should add a few free agents that are gritty, blue collar players that will fit in the system. I think Ron Artest(player option), Andres Nocioni and Eduardo Najera are all available. In addition, I think Ryan Gomes would be a good, young talent to add to the team that can score off the bench.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139100</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:10:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139100</guid>
		<description>Personally I wouldn't like to see O'Neal, he's often-injured and unhappy, (although who isn't with the Pacers).  Guys I'd like to see are Elton Brand, Josh Smith, and realistically or not, Dwyane Wade.  I think they'd all be available, with Wade being the hardest to get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Personally I wouldn&#8217;t like to see O&#8217;Neal, he&#8217;s often-injured and unhappy, (although who isn&#8217;t with the Pacers).  Guys I&#8217;d like to see are Elton Brand, Josh Smith, and realistically or not, Dwyane Wade.  I think they&#8217;d all be available, with Wade being the hardest to get.</p>
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		<title>By: Gdub</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139057</link>
		<dc:creator>Gdub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 05:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139057</guid>
		<description>I think Dumars should make a play for Jermaine O'Neal. Image him taking Sheed's place in the lineup.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Dumars should make a play for Jermaine O&#8217;Neal. Image him taking Sheed&#8217;s place in the lineup.</p>
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		<title>By: Forty</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139041</link>
		<dc:creator>Forty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 03:21:56 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139041</guid>
		<description>@LB, re: there better be two of the core left

He's pretty adamant in the video that he does not like the rebuilding process and doesn't think "you can get magically good by being bad."  He specifically says he won't rip us apart.  I think Joe has what most of us have in mind -- keeping some of the core, trading some of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@LB, re: there better be two of the core left</p>
<p>He&#8217;s pretty adamant in the video that he does not like the rebuilding process and doesn&#8217;t think &#8220;you can get magically good by being bad.&#8221;  He specifically says he won&#8217;t rip us apart.  I think Joe has what most of us have in mind &#8212; keeping some of the core, trading some of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139022</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139022</guid>
		<description>I'm sorry, but I'm tired of hearing what a "damn good job" Flip did.  Yes, in the regular season he was terrific - I don't dispute that.  But when your team is the #1, #1 and #2 seed in the East, shouldn't you have at least ONE Finals appearance in those three years?  And given that we lost to three different teams, it's not like it was just an impossible hump to get over.  We underachieved in the postseason.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m sorry, but I&#8217;m tired of hearing what a &#8220;damn good job&#8221; Flip did.  Yes, in the regular season he was terrific - I don&#8217;t dispute that.  But when your team is the #1, #1 and #2 seed in the East, shouldn&#8217;t you have at least ONE Finals appearance in those three years?  And given that we lost to three different teams, it&#8217;s not like it was just an impossible hump to get over.  We underachieved in the postseason.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139021</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139021</guid>
		<description>Kyle:

Yeah, I mean if we could have traded Darko for Gasol, we would have won it all in ‘06 and probably ‘07 too. And if we had traded one good player and a bunch of odd parts and wound up with Garnett and Ray Allen, we probably would have won it all this year.&#62;&#62;

Actually Pierce next to KG was the key to the Celtics getting to the Finals.

He came up huge in game #7 against the Cavs.  He played a great series against us including shutting Tay down, for all intents and purposes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle:</p>
<p>Yeah, I mean if we could have traded Darko for Gasol, we would have won it all in ‘06 and probably ‘07 too. And if we had traded one good player and a bunch of odd parts and wound up with Garnett and Ray Allen, we probably would have won it all this year.&gt;&gt;</p>
<p>Actually Pierce next to KG was the key to the Celtics getting to the Finals.</p>
<p>He came up huge in game #7 against the Cavs.  He played a great series against us including shutting Tay down, for all intents and purposes.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139020</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139020</guid>
		<description>I think it will take an awful lot to get either Stuckey, Johnson, Affalo or Maxiell.

Though I doubt that Joe D. would trade Stuckey or Johnson unless we are talking about getting an all star quality player who has the personality qualities that Joe is looking for to get us the title next year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it will take an awful lot to get either Stuckey, Johnson, Affalo or Maxiell.</p>
<p>Though I doubt that Joe D. would trade Stuckey or Johnson unless we are talking about getting an all star quality player who has the personality qualities that Joe is looking for to get us the title next year.</p>
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		<title>By: Nate</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139019</link>
		<dc:creator>Nate</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 00:37:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139019</guid>
		<description>Wow, I love Joe D's comments.  Can't argue with a word he said.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I love Joe D&#8217;s comments.  Can&#8217;t argue with a word he said.</p>
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		<title>By: JackDutch</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139003</link>
		<dc:creator>JackDutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:15:25 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139003</guid>
		<description>thanks, jim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>thanks, jim.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139002</link>
		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139002</guid>
		<description>JackDutch...go nba.com/pistons and you can watch it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JackDutch&#8230;go nba.com/pistons and you can watch it.</p>
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		<title>By: JackDutch</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139001</link>
		<dc:creator>JackDutch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:59:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-139001</guid>
		<description>who's got a link to video of the pc? from the sounds of things i'm wondering how clear joe d's mindset was heading into this decision (and those to come.) he sounds TOO pissed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>who&#8217;s got a link to video of the pc? from the sounds of things i&#8217;m wondering how clear joe d&#8217;s mindset was heading into this decision (and those to come.) he sounds TOO pissed.</p>
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		<title>By: Ken Brown</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-138997</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken Brown</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe Dumars should fire the shitty players as well. They always hold the coach accountable and not the washed up, lazy players. They are we ones responsible for the miscues, lazy play and lack of talent needed to win 
Championships. Joe Dumars should take responsibility for not doing more to ensure the Piston made quality trades and obtained better quality ball players that what they currently have.  Think about it, they have been ousted three years in a row, is it really the coach’s fault or the players ????? They should have made significant changes after the second year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe Dumars should fire the shitty players as well. They always hold the coach accountable and not the washed up, lazy players. They are we ones responsible for the miscues, lazy play and lack of talent needed to win<br />
Championships. Joe Dumars should take responsibility for not doing more to ensure the Piston made quality trades and obtained better quality ball players that what they currently have.  Think about it, they have been ousted three years in a row, is it really the coach’s fault or the players ????? They should have made significant changes after the second year.</p>
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		<title>By: Toledo Joe</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-138992</link>
		<dc:creator>Toledo Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 22:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-138992</guid>
		<description>Kyle:

Yeah, I mean if we could have traded Darko for Gasol, we would have won it all in '06 and probably '07 too.  And if we had traded one good player and a bunch of odd parts and wound up with Garnett and Ray Allen, we probably would have won it all this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kyle:</p>
<p>Yeah, I mean if we could have traded Darko for Gasol, we would have won it all in &#8216;06 and probably &#8216;07 too.  And if we had traded one good player and a bunch of odd parts and wound up with Garnett and Ray Allen, we probably would have won it all this year.</p>
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		<title>By: Skylar</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-138981</link>
		<dc:creator>Skylar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:15:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-138981</guid>
		<description>'Sheed stays, period. Not only is he going to retire a piston, but he's going to be Joe's consigliere, serious. This I know. 

We need Arnie Kander bad. I hope Maxiell explodes in '09, I expect huge things from him</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8216;Sheed stays, period. Not only is he going to retire a piston, but he&#8217;s going to be Joe&#8217;s consigliere, serious. This I know. </p>
<p>We need Arnie Kander bad. I hope Maxiell explodes in &#8216;09, I expect huge things from him</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/joe-dumars-everybodys-in-play/#comment-138980</link>
		<dc:creator>Kyle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Jun 2008 21:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that trade was a crime. simply not have kwame on your team makes you better. it's like someone paying you several thousand dollars to let them remove a boil from your ass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that trade was a crime. simply not have kwame on your team makes you better. it&#8217;s like someone paying you several thousand dollars to let them remove a boil from your ass.</p>
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