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	<title>Comments on: Why not Tom Izzo?</title>
	<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/</link>
	<description>A Detroit Pistons blog</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:12:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Hoops Addict &#187; Dynasty in Flux - In Joe We (Still) Trust</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139216</link>
		<dc:creator>Hoops Addict &#187; Dynasty in Flux - In Joe We (Still) Trust</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jun 2008 01:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139216</guid>
		<description>[...] The Pistons need a coach that will walk in from day one and demand the respect of the entire roster, simply because their legendary reputation demands nothing less. If it&#8217;s worth anything I&#8217;ll endorse Matt Watson&#8217;s call for Michigan State University&#8217;s Tom Izzo. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] The Pistons need a coach that will walk in from day one and demand the respect of the entire roster, simply because their legendary reputation demands nothing less. If it&#8217;s worth anything I&#8217;ll endorse Matt Watson&#8217;s call for Michigan State University&#8217;s Tom Izzo. [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139145</link>
		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 08:47:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139145</guid>
		<description>LB: Coming soon, perkistheleast.com?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LB: Coming soon, perkistheleast.com?</p>
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		<title>By: LawyerBoy</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139131</link>
		<dc:creator>LawyerBoy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 02:31:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139131</guid>
		<description>MP: I'll give you this: he's clearly better than Kendrick Perkins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>MP: I&#8217;ll give you this: he&#8217;s clearly better than Kendrick Perkins.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139126</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139126</guid>
		<description>Sauce, thanks my man-- its nice to read a professional scouting report on Biedrins.  While I've only seen him play 20 or so games over the last two seasons, I've checked his game stats after each game for the last two seasons.  I've drafted him in fantasy basketball two years running, he's always quite a sleeper there since many aren't aware of him.

After reading that report, I'm not too worried about his FT shooting.  I think you can't ask too much out of a Center.  Who knows, maybe I'm biased from having Ben on our team for so many seasons.

If the strength is a concern and we were to sign Biedrins, it might make sense to keep Ratliff around for another year while Biedrins shares a diet plan with Amir and Samb.  That's getting ahead of ourselves though...

For more interest, here is Biedrins' hotspot chart:
http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/7715/biedrinshotspots0604200mr2.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sauce, thanks my man&#8211; its nice to read a professional scouting report on Biedrins.  While I&#8217;ve only seen him play 20 or so games over the last two seasons, I&#8217;ve checked his game stats after each game for the last two seasons.  I&#8217;ve drafted him in fantasy basketball two years running, he&#8217;s always quite a sleeper there since many aren&#8217;t aware of him.</p>
<p>After reading that report, I&#8217;m not too worried about his FT shooting.  I think you can&#8217;t ask too much out of a Center.  Who knows, maybe I&#8217;m biased from having Ben on our team for so many seasons.</p>
<p>If the strength is a concern and we were to sign Biedrins, it might make sense to keep Ratliff around for another year while Biedrins shares a diet plan with Amir and Samb.  That&#8217;s getting ahead of ourselves though&#8230;</p>
<p>For more interest, here is Biedrins&#8217; hotspot chart:<br />
<a href="http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/7715/biedrinshotspots0604200mr2.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://img76.imageshack.us/img76/7715/biedrinshotspots0604200mr2.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Sauce1977</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139120</link>
		<dc:creator>Sauce1977</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 23:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139120</guid>
		<description>Mike P, here's scouting info from ESPN on Andris, to help or hurt your case:

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2006-07 season:  The master of field-goal percentage struck again, hitting 59.9 percent from the field to keep his career mark over 60 percent. The Latvian lefty is actually a terrible shooter -- just watch him shoot a free throw some time -- but thanks to his shot selection and finishing ability around the basket, he converts an incredibly high percentage.

Speaking of free throws, he improved enough to make more than half of them last year, which was a huge improvement on the 30.6 percent he made a year earlier. Opponents are still far better off hacking Biedrins than they are letting him try a close-in shot, but at least the difference is shrinking.

Biedrins made more impact on the boards last year, finishing 14th among centers in rebound rate while providing one of the team's few steady sources of boards, especially after Troy Murphy was traded.

Scouting report: Biedrins lacks muscle, but his activity around the basket makes up for it. He excels at putting himself into position for easy layups and dunks, and has a nice lefty hook shot from close range that he'll bust out in his rare catches on the block.

Free throws are an adventure, though. Biedrins may have the ugliest form since Chris Dudley, shooting one-hand line drives that often fail to clear the rim and only sporadically have any backspin.

Defensively, Biedrins' lack of muscle is a problem because it prevents him from defending elite post players one-on-one -- which is really what Golden State needs. He's an active rebounder and shot-blocker and holds down the middle better in zones, but the hope is that he'll fill out and hit the weights so he can fill a more traditional center role. He also needs to work on transition D -- he jogs back too often and gets beat by opposing big men.

2007-08 outlook: If you're curious, he figures to shoot a high percentage again -- the projections have him at a league-leading 62.9 percent. Of greater interest to the Warriors may be his scoring and rebounding numbers, both of which also project to improve as the 21-year-old big man starts heading into his prime years.

The Warriors are due to give Biedrins an extension this summer and based on his age and production would be completely insane not to. Although his game is a bit unorthodox, he was a quality player at age 20 and could be much, much better a few years down the road. It may cost the Warriors as much as $60 million to find out how much better.

The other obstacle for Biedrins may be his coach. As well as he played last year, he saw only 29 minutes a game and Don Nelson seemed to get oddly impatient with him -- like the time on Dec. 9 when Nellie yanked him 15 seconds into a game against Hornets.

Nelson's passion for smallball may be entertaining, but Biedrins figures to be one of the Warriors' best players this year. If he's not playing well more than 30 minutes a game, it's a mistake.

Most similar at age: Al Jefferson

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Here's a highlight reel:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_JY6MGyXvU

Disclaimer: In that video, a lot of what Andris is doing is against a lot of not-playoff-material clubs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike P, here&#8217;s scouting info from ESPN on Andris, to help or hurt your case:</p>
<p>*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%*%</p>
<p>2006-07 season:  The master of field-goal percentage struck again, hitting 59.9 percent from the field to keep his career mark over 60 percent. The Latvian lefty is actually a terrible shooter &#8212; just watch him shoot a free throw some time &#8212; but thanks to his shot selection and finishing ability around the basket, he converts an incredibly high percentage.</p>
<p>Speaking of free throws, he improved enough to make more than half of them last year, which was a huge improvement on the 30.6 percent he made a year earlier. Opponents are still far better off hacking Biedrins than they are letting him try a close-in shot, but at least the difference is shrinking.</p>
<p>Biedrins made more impact on the boards last year, finishing 14th among centers in rebound rate while providing one of the team&#8217;s few steady sources of boards, especially after Troy Murphy was traded.</p>
<p>Scouting report: Biedrins lacks muscle, but his activity around the basket makes up for it. He excels at putting himself into position for easy layups and dunks, and has a nice lefty hook shot from close range that he&#8217;ll bust out in his rare catches on the block.</p>
<p>Free throws are an adventure, though. Biedrins may have the ugliest form since Chris Dudley, shooting one-hand line drives that often fail to clear the rim and only sporadically have any backspin.</p>
<p>Defensively, Biedrins&#8217; lack of muscle is a problem because it prevents him from defending elite post players one-on-one &#8212; which is really what Golden State needs. He&#8217;s an active rebounder and shot-blocker and holds down the middle better in zones, but the hope is that he&#8217;ll fill out and hit the weights so he can fill a more traditional center role. He also needs to work on transition D &#8212; he jogs back too often and gets beat by opposing big men.</p>
<p>2007-08 outlook: If you&#8217;re curious, he figures to shoot a high percentage again &#8212; the projections have him at a league-leading 62.9 percent. Of greater interest to the Warriors may be his scoring and rebounding numbers, both of which also project to improve as the 21-year-old big man starts heading into his prime years.</p>
<p>The Warriors are due to give Biedrins an extension this summer and based on his age and production would be completely insane not to. Although his game is a bit unorthodox, he was a quality player at age 20 and could be much, much better a few years down the road. It may cost the Warriors as much as $60 million to find out how much better.</p>
<p>The other obstacle for Biedrins may be his coach. As well as he played last year, he saw only 29 minutes a game and Don Nelson seemed to get oddly impatient with him &#8212; like the time on Dec. 9 when Nellie yanked him 15 seconds into a game against Hornets.</p>
<p>Nelson&#8217;s passion for smallball may be entertaining, but Biedrins figures to be one of the Warriors&#8217; best players this year. If he&#8217;s not playing well more than 30 minutes a game, it&#8217;s a mistake.</p>
<p>Most similar at age: Al Jefferson</p>
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<p>Here&#8217;s a highlight reel:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_JY6MGyXvU" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b_JY6MGyXvU</a></p>
<p>Disclaimer: In that video, a lot of what Andris is doing is against a lot of not-playoff-material clubs.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139119</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:19:55 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139119</guid>
		<description>@V:
I've probably mentioned Biedrins 10+ times since Friday, and a LOT beforehand.  But: "but the only guy that we could possibly acquire who is a great fit with our team is Brand."  

I'd argue that Biedrins is a better option across the board.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@V:<br />
I&#8217;ve probably mentioned Biedrins 10+ times since Friday, and a LOT beforehand.  But: &#8220;but the only guy that we could possibly acquire who is a great fit with our team is Brand.&#8221;  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d argue that Biedrins is a better option across the board.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139118</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139118</guid>
		<description>@O-Town General:
Ideas are good, buddy.  Its just insane to think that Stuck is ready to take over as our PG and that Chauncey should leave.  That's not to say my ideas aren't insane either.  I just want Joe and Davidson to do whatever they can to get ahold of Andris Biedrins...  He can do what he wants with the rest, but I'd kill to have that guy as our starting C.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@O-Town General:<br />
Ideas are good, buddy.  Its just insane to think that Stuck is ready to take over as our PG and that Chauncey should leave.  That&#8217;s not to say my ideas aren&#8217;t insane either.  I just want Joe and Davidson to do whatever they can to get ahold of Andris Biedrins&#8230;  He can do what he wants with the rest, but I&#8217;d kill to have that guy as our starting C.</p>
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		<title>By: V</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139117</link>
		<dc:creator>V</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 22:17:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139117</guid>
		<description>Alan and Mike P: McMurphy is already an assistant with the Lakers, but  he's a lifer with them, so I think we should pass. 

I'm a little surprised at this discussion of Izzo. College coaches historically have a difficult time adjusting to the NBA. I also didn't disagree too much with Rosenberg. Stuckey is a young Billups, with potentially more upside. I think at some point he's going to be traded. 

The key is: what do you get for these players? I'm not as into this as many of you, but the only guy that we could possibly acquire who is a great fit with our team is Brand. OTOH, watching how the Pistons were built, I wouldn't worry too much about Dumars making a bad trade. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Alan and Mike P: McMurphy is already an assistant with the Lakers, but  he&#8217;s a lifer with them, so I think we should pass. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m a little surprised at this discussion of Izzo. College coaches historically have a difficult time adjusting to the NBA. I also didn&#8217;t disagree too much with Rosenberg. Stuckey is a young Billups, with potentially more upside. I think at some point he&#8217;s going to be traded. </p>
<p>The key is: what do you get for these players? I&#8217;m not as into this as many of you, but the only guy that we could possibly acquire who is a great fit with our team is Brand. OTOH, watching how the Pistons were built, I wouldn&#8217;t worry too much about Dumars making a bad trade. <img src='http://www.detroitbadboys.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: O-Town General</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139114</link>
		<dc:creator>O-Town General</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139114</guid>
		<description>Mike Payne:  Well it is early and I am throwing out ideas.  I take it you do not like them.  What say you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike Payne:  Well it is early and I am throwing out ideas.  I take it you do not like them.  What say you!</p>
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		<title>By: Sauce1977</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139112</link>
		<dc:creator>Sauce1977</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:32:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139112</guid>
		<description>Carey, unlike most 'NBA fans' and fans of this team, I have the unique patience to read an entire block of text, and I agree.  The only thing I have to add . . . it's amazing that Joe keeps firing guys at the worst time of year, when the quality coaching litter becomes thin, and this team still does what it does.  Counter this with Chicago, who fires Skiles @ Xmas, and they're still interviewing everyone to find out who will work for next to nothing because the Bulls ownership is personified by cheap and stupid.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Carey, unlike most &#8216;NBA fans&#8217; and fans of this team, I have the unique patience to read an entire block of text, and I agree.  The only thing I have to add . . . it&#8217;s amazing that Joe keeps firing guys at the worst time of year, when the quality coaching litter becomes thin, and this team still does what it does.  Counter this with Chicago, who fires Skiles @ Xmas, and they&#8217;re still interviewing everyone to find out who will work for next to nothing because the Bulls ownership is personified by cheap and stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Sauce1977</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139111</link>
		<dc:creator>Sauce1977</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:29:49 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139111</guid>
		<description>@ Mike Payne:

Then thank God Rosenberg isn't our GM either.

http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080604/SPORTS03/806040405/1051</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Mike Payne:</p>
<p>Then thank God Rosenberg isn&#8217;t our GM either.</p>
<p><a href="http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080604/SPORTS03/806040405/1051" rel="nofollow">http://freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080604/SPORTS03/806040405/1051</a></p>
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		<title>By: Mike Payne</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139108</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Payne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 21:06:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139108</guid>
		<description>@O-Town General:
Thank god you're not our GM.

@Kevin S:
"Well, then he’s used to divas."

+1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@O-Town General:<br />
Thank god you&#8217;re not our GM.</p>
<p>@Kevin S:<br />
&#8220;Well, then he’s used to divas.&#8221;</p>
<p>+1</p>
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		<title>By: A Pro/Con List for Tom Izzo &#124; Detroit Bad Boys</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139106</link>
		<dc:creator>A Pro/Con List for Tom Izzo &#124; Detroit Bad Boys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:42:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139106</guid>
		<description>[...] Archives          &#171; Why not Tom Izzo? [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] Archives          &laquo; Why not Tom Izzo? [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Zeldis</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139105</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike Zeldis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 20:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139105</guid>
		<description>The Pistons will draft Drew Neitzel in the first round before they hire Tom Izzo as head coach.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pistons will draft Drew Neitzel in the first round before they hire Tom Izzo as head coach.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin s.</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139103</link>
		<dc:creator>kevin s.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Jun 2008 19:51:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-06-03/why-not-tom-izzo/#comment-139103</guid>
		<description>"Same thing for Bill. Yeah, Bad Boy for life, but he’s a WNBA coach, "

Well, then he's used to divas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Same thing for Bill. Yeah, Bad Boy for life, but he’s a WNBA coach, &#8221;</p>
<p>Well, then he&#8217;s used to divas.</p>
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