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	<title>Comments on: Carlos Arroyo moves to Israel</title>
	<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/</link>
	<description>A Detroit Pistons blog</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 15:38:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Paul M</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144222</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 18:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144222</guid>
		<description>I always liked Boykins and it's good that he got paid. That's still killer money for a midget PG who's slowing down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always liked Boykins and it&#8217;s good that he got paid. That&#8217;s still killer money for a midget PG who&#8217;s slowing down.</p>
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		<title>By: ohad</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144177</link>
		<dc:creator>ohad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 06:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144177</guid>
		<description>http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3520898

I'd rather pay carlos 2.5 rather than boykins 3.5mil...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3520898" rel="nofollow">http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3520898</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;d rather pay carlos 2.5 rather than boykins 3.5mil&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Ohad</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144158</link>
		<dc:creator>Ohad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Aug 2008 03:44:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144158</guid>
		<description>@Paul: I think they started with the players they knew and saw and liked but those either signed with NBA teams or rival european teams. They found themselves with few choices left. The whole "white chocolate" thing was only because Macabi's owner - ra'anan katz - is the owner (i think) of the miami heat.
Is bynum the same? When you'll see him turn the ball over you won't think he went for the flashy pass. you'll just groan inwardly and try to figure out what the hell that was. On the other hand, with the pistons he won't play 20+ minutes in a leading role so maybe with less pressure and other teams learning him to a lesser degree he might pull of a few good games...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Paul: I think they started with the players they knew and saw and liked but those either signed with NBA teams or rival european teams. They found themselves with few choices left. The whole &#8220;white chocolate&#8221; thing was only because Macabi&#8217;s owner - ra&#8217;anan katz - is the owner (i think) of the miami heat.<br />
Is bynum the same? When you&#8217;ll see him turn the ball over you won&#8217;t think he went for the flashy pass. you&#8217;ll just groan inwardly and try to figure out what the hell that was. On the other hand, with the pistons he won&#8217;t play 20+ minutes in a leading role so maybe with less pressure and other teams learning him to a lesser degree he might pull of a few good games&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Paul M</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144129</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 21:27:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144129</guid>
		<description>ohad, do you think it means anything that the team targetted players with reputations of style over substance? Williams improved under Hubie Brown in that regard, but both he and Arroyo still sometimes go for the impressive pass and screw up plays. 

I don't know anything about Bynum, but hopefully he's not the same kind of player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ohad, do you think it means anything that the team targetted players with reputations of style over substance? Williams improved under Hubie Brown in that regard, but both he and Arroyo still sometimes go for the impressive pass and screw up plays. </p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know anything about Bynum, but hopefully he&#8217;s not the same kind of player.</p>
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		<title>By: MarkButter in SoCal</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144099</link>
		<dc:creator>MarkButter in SoCal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 14:00:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144099</guid>
		<description>Like a few folks here, I was excited when Carlos signed a few years ago.  I had watched him do some pregame drills when the Jazz played the Clips after I had gotten there early (and my wife wanted to get J. Stockton autograph).  But I also think he let his 04 Olympic performance get a bit in his head and he was never the same.  Good bye Carlos.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Like a few folks here, I was excited when Carlos signed a few years ago.  I had watched him do some pregame drills when the Jazz played the Clips after I had gotten there early (and my wife wanted to get J. Stockton autograph).  But I also think he let his 04 Olympic performance get a bit in his head and he was never the same.  Good bye Carlos.</p>
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		<title>By: ohad</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144098</link>
		<dc:creator>ohad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 13:43:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144098</guid>
		<description>@QD - Naah. rumors said he asked for 3mil+ a year and that Macabi thought his health could be an issue. Now that Arroyo is here we are done shopping in the US</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@QD - Naah. rumors said he asked for 3mil+ a year and that Macabi thought his health could be an issue. Now that Arroyo is here we are done shopping in the US</p>
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		<title>By: Quick Darshan</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144095</link>
		<dc:creator>Quick Darshan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 12:28:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144095</guid>
		<description>Watchout Ohad, there's a rumor that JWill is comin' your way too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Watchout Ohad, there&#8217;s a rumor that JWill is comin&#8217; your way too.</p>
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		<title>By: ohad</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144090</link>
		<dc:creator>ohad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 09:26:41 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144090</guid>
		<description>@Dike - Will was thrown out. Bringing me to play point is an upgrade over him. At least i would turn the ball over so often or fuck up so many clutch shots.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Dike - Will was thrown out. Bringing me to play point is an upgrade over him. At least i would turn the ball over so often or fuck up so many clutch shots.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul M</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144069</link>
		<dc:creator>Paul M</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 05 Aug 2008 03:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144069</guid>
		<description>Maccabi now has two of my least favorite Pistons in the past decade (him and Rodney White). 

Orlando's backcourt depth has really bled this offseason (Evans, Dooling, Arroyo). I would say that this means more Redick, but I think Van Gundy would sooner send himself out on the court.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Maccabi now has two of my least favorite Pistons in the past decade (him and Rodney White). </p>
<p>Orlando&#8217;s backcourt depth has really bled this offseason (Evans, Dooling, Arroyo). I would say that this means more Redick, but I think Van Gundy would sooner send himself out on the court.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144050</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 22:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144050</guid>
		<description>So Carlos replaces Will as Maccabi Elite's PG.  I wonder if this will be an upgrade or downgrade for them. LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So Carlos replaces Will as Maccabi Elite&#8217;s PG.  I wonder if this will be an upgrade or downgrade for them. LOL</p>
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		<title>By: Rob G</title>
		<link>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144039</link>
		<dc:creator>Rob G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-08-04/carlos-arroyo-moves-to-israel/#comment-144039</guid>
		<description>Adios, Los. Please don't dribble the ball off your foot too much in Isreal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adios, Los. Please don&#8217;t dribble the ball off your foot too much in Isreal.</p>
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