Pistons take on unbeaten Lakers

Think of Detroit’s road trip out west like a great big meal: Wednesday’s game in Sacramento was the appetizer, last night’s game at Golden State was the dinner salad, and tonight’s game against the undefeated Lakers is easily the main course.

And not just any entree, either — we’re talking about the “Ole 96er”, right out of The Great Outdoors. Can the Pistons eat the whole thing, right down to the gristle and fat? We’ll find out. If they do, they won’t win free t-shirts for the whole family but will grab the attention of everybody in the league.

It’s another late one, but hey, you’re not working tomorrow, right? The ball tips at 10:30 PM on ESPN — join your DBB brethren by leaving your thoughts (and random John Candy references) in the comments.

380 Responses to “Pistons take on unbeaten Lakers”


  1. 1 watching
  2. 2 Rob G

    I was never a Candy fan, but I remember this as a kid:
    http://www.retrojunk.com/details_articles/23/

  3. 3 Michael

    This is the first game in years where I’ve felt confident of a big Piston’s loss. The Laker’s are peaking and the Piston’s are, um, valley-ing.

  4. 4 JackDutch

    spread’s 9.5 tonight btw. i’d be surprised if we don’t lose by double digits. i’ll be shocked if we win the whole damn thing.

    lakers play much zone?

  5. 5 Garrett

    I say we play up to the competition and make a game out of it. But I don’t know if I can make it to 1:30 am again. Oh who am I kidding? Of course I can.

  6. 6 Joel

    They do now. Phil Jackson is the best coach in the game (he is– get over it with your “he had superstars” shit) and you can be damn sure he saw how much the zone flustered us.

    “I’m a mog. Half man, half dog.”

  7. 7 Paul M

    The team can’t afford godawful quarters like it’s had in the last few games if it wants to stand a chance. We’ve had strong moments but it would probably take four quarters of sustained play to get the win tonight. The Lakers have been ridiculous.

    “Larry Bird doesn’t do as much ball-handling in one night as you do in an hour!”

  8. 8 Forty

    Man these guys are good. Hopefully prince d’s kobers up like it’s june 2004. And ai steps over small bitchass guards after he j’s in their face like it’s 2001.

  9. 9 Michael

    Four of our 3rd quarters from last night would do it, but I don’t expect that to happen for at least a couple of months.

  10. 10 Forty

    Man Chauncey just took out one angry-lookin turkey. Go Nuggs, go CB!

  11. 11 Jim

    This game is the start of a brutal 4 game stretch. At LA, at Phoenix, home Cav’s, at Celtics. If we can go 2-2 in that stretch I’ll be pretty happy.

  12. 12 Keegan

    Now this Denver win tonight? That’s impressive.

  13. 13 Yahtzee

    Were those Celtic fans chanting “Let’s go Lakers?”

  14. 14 Keegan

    They were chanting, “We want Samb!”

  15. 15 Colin

    Go Chauncey!

  16. 16 HB

    WOW, Nuggets kicked some Celtics asses tonight. Miracles does happen. Let see if the Pistons can beat L.A.

  17. 17 Jim

    Great start!

  18. 18 Lucas

    Great shot by Kobe. He didnt even let Rips standing still with his arms straight up and not touching him while shooting stop him!

  19. 19 Michael

    Nice start for the Pistons. Bad start for the officiating.

  20. 20 Mannie32

    wow great start by the pistons… first time ive said that in a while lol… lakers are catching up, but that’s expected… they’re a great team… but at least pistons put the pressure on the lakers to play catch up and not the other way around

    and the defense is looking nice… have no idea how nice that is to say again… let’s hope they keep it up

  21. 21 Lucas

    Sheed’s holding in “3 seconds!” yells right now

  22. 22 Michael

    Kobe getting away with everything while Rip picks up 2 quick fouls for nothing.

  23. 23 Jim

    Nice pass Stuckey.

  24. 24 DJ

    Sweet shot AI!

  25. 25 Primosh

    Great shot AI

  26. 26 Mannie32

    WOW… big steal and shot by iverson to end the quarter

  27. 27 HB

    man that is probably the sweetest shot ever made IMO. Go AI.

  28. 28 Michael

    For one quarter we outplayed the mighty Lakers, only five games into the AI era, on the second night of a back to back, and on the road. I declare the evening a success!

  29. 29 Jim

    That running one handed floater to beat the 1st quarter buzzer by AI was awesome.

  30. 30 Colin

    I loved that posession where AI fed Sheed in the post. When the double came he kicked it to the opposite corner, who kicked it to Stuck, who fired it in to the Kwamster who managed to lay it in. Awesome ball movement.

  31. 31 Primosh

    Sheed is awesome :)

  32. 32 Lucas

    Free Amir!

  33. 33 Mannie32

    sheed be killin it… i give him the green light to shoot the 3 when he’s facing a centre like bynum… force him to come out and guard u… that being said i hope he doesnt fall TOO in love with it… cuz 3-pointers will eventually average out to a lower percentage shot

    but that’s the strength of sheed, he’s spreads the offense… get the bigs out to guard him when he’s hot from the 3-point line, which will then open up the middle for the like of will bynum, iverson, and stuckey… all good drivers

  34. 34 dtownsmosth8ed

    so much fun to watch. I have been the biggest AI homer for years. now that he is in pistons blue I can’t help myself. I just love what joe d has done. imagine signing him to 4 years with a 5th year option for like 40m… he will average 20 a yr until he is 38…

  35. 35 Forty

    Rasheed can shoot as many open threes as he wants. I just don’t care for the step-backs and the covered threes.

  36. 36 Forty

    Man are we good?

  37. 37 Garrett

    Am I allowed to say I called it at 7:39 pm?

  38. 38 Forty

    Stuckey with the hustle!

  39. 39 Forty

    Garrett you stayed up? I’m shocked ;)

  40. 40 Mannie32

    i absolutely love what im seeing… the diving for loose balls, they look like they’re out to prove a point

  41. 41 HB

    Gasol is on top of Stuckey. Get a room you two.

  42. 42 HB

    Garrett, it’s 11:22pm right now on the East. DAMN YOU and your west coast time.

  43. 43 Rob G

    I like what I see, but there’s a long way to go with this game. I hope our boys can keep it going!

  44. 44 Garrett

    Haha, yeah, the wife went to bed and I’m huddled around my computer with a Diet Coke and some photos to edit. Yee haw Friday nights at the Elliott house hold!

  45. 45 Garrett

    HB: Nope, it’s 11:22 pm here too. I’m near Toronto. :) Zzzzz…

  46. 46 Garrett

    THAT’S the Jason Maxiell I know.

  47. 47 Rob G

    JMax is a brutal, brutal man. He just threw the Plymouth Rock at Kobe

  48. 48 Garrett

    He just ate Kobe’s baby. And he also took a small bite out of Odom’s baby.

  49. 49 Garrett

    Whoa. Michael Curry and Maxiell are about the same height?

  50. 50 Primosh

    Pistons basketball easily keeping me awake…5.30am over here

  51. 51 Forty

    Three seconds anyone?

  52. 52 Rob G

    This is a great game of basketball from an objective point of view. These two teams are battling. This is freakin’ awesome.

  53. 53 Forty

    Rasheed’s defense on Gasol has been just outstanding. He is so good against guys who can’t athletically overwhelm him, b/c no one can out-technique him on the block. I’m looking at you Duncan and Gasol.

  54. 54 Rban

    Rip is slackin, if he keeps this type of play up, stuckey should be getting more minutes.

  55. 55 Garrett

    Clearly that NBA2K commercial is completely fabricated. KG is controlling Detroit.

  56. 56 Forty

    And how does Gasol have just one turnover and one BA? Sheed has stoned him multiple times.

  57. 57 UTEP2STEP

    “Here’s a quarter. Why don’t you go downtown and have a rat gnaw that thing off your face.”

    Pistons playing well on a back to back but they are livin off the J right now. I can’t see them sustaining 62 percent all game.

  58. 58 rjsplow

    okay…so AI passed it to Kwame, who predictably muffed the pass. Then…how did AI get the ball back??? That was amazing, the Pistons did NOT have anyone quick enough to get possession of their own flubbed pass before the trade. Crazy!

  59. 59 UTEP2STEP

    Also, Rip is terrible.

  60. 60 Garrett

    It’s nice to see the refs let them play a little. I’m so used to seeing an automatic foul called any time someone jumps near the rim in a crowd of people, this is a welcome change.

  61. 61 Garrett

    Tayshaun totally padded his stats on that play. Great hustle and long arms!

  62. 62 Forty

    Excellent half, let’s do another one just like it

  63. 63 Jim

    Couldn’t ask for a much better half then that.

  64. 64 UTEP2STEP

    Good half……and….Rip is terrible.

  65. 65 HB

    Did ya’all heard Wallace? He said he’s not looking forward to Sunday. That’s no way to talk about the Suns. WTH Wallace?

  66. 66 Rob G

    Rasheed just yelled “yo mama” at someone in the crowd. He remains my idol.

    also, this is the year:
    http://pistonsnationblog.com/2008/11/01/obey-tayshaun-for-all-star/

  67. 67 Shinons

    Maxiell is much better at eating babies than Kwame Brown. Curry needs to let him munch on Bynum’s unborn babies for a bit in the second half.

    Kwame Brown has worse hands than Braylon Edwards.

  68. 68 Forty

    The same Rip who is the primary reason Kobe is 5-13 sucks? Really? I understand he’s shot poorly for a few games early in the season. But let’s give our perennial All-Star more than 8 games before we turn on him; he’s a unique offensive player getting used to a new system. Rip’s underhandedly extended contract is stronger than your doubt!

    (Moreover, he’s 0-2, not 0-10 — his offense is not helping or hurting that much today).

  69. 69 Mike Payne

    I hope all those DBBers who were saying “I dunno, I think the Lakers are going to kill us tonight” are shaking in your panties.

    It is FAR too soon to celebrate, especially against a team that has continuously overcome large half-time deficits. I am guardedly optimistic, but if this keeps up, I’m going to start searching for crow recipes for a handful of fairweather fans here…

  70. 70 Michael

    Those who predicted a Piston’s win are only two good quarters from being geniuses, and I am only two good quarters from being a very happy fool. So far this game has not even been as close as the score would indicate.

  71. 71 Laughton

    Ok, I have just got online after being stuck out with the wife and kids. Recap?

  72. 72 Forty

    Avery Johnson’s voice belongs in the basketball hall of fame

  73. 73 Garrett

    Hey Laughton — stuck out with the wife and kids? Don’t they know the game is on? http://www.justin.tv/boxerfacejr

  74. 74 UTEP2STEP

    I see your point but……Rip is terrible.

  75. 75 Shinons

    Get your priorities straight Laughton!

  76. 76 Forty

    Laughton - best sustained D we’ve played all season, AI playing great within the offense and generating several steals, Rasheed getting open threes due to penetration and locking down the paint on the other end. Only concern is jump shot luck evening out - it’s not like we’re never getting in the paint, but it does feel like we’ve been lucky with shooting. Several Tay covered jumpers as the clock wound down come to mind. Lead would be bigger if Amir were protecting the defensive glass.

  77. 77 Laughton

    Garrett: Cheers mate, but I’m already watching that one!
    Shinons: I did, I just dragged everyone home after cracking the shits :)

  78. 78 Shinons

    Recap: We’re finally shooting well, AI’s all over the place, Sheed from three, Maxiell eats babies.

  79. 79 Laughton

    Sweet. Looking forward to the next half. Go Stones!

  80. 80 Forty

    What time is it in Australia?

  81. 81 Garrett

    I love watching that clip of Shaq pushing guys all over the court. What a goon.

  82. 82 Mike Payne

    @Garrett:
    “He just ate Kobe’s baby. And he also took a small bite out of Odom’s baby.”

    Totally brutal, man. My sense of humor is as dark as it gets, but I’m going to guess you haven’t heard about Odom’s son…

  83. 83 Forty

    Wow MP I had never heard that, just googled it. That’s awful.

  84. 84 Garrett

    Mike Payne: Nope. What happened?

  85. 85 UTEP2STEP

    Also Rip is still daydreaming about those crisp chest passes from Chauncey.

  86. 86 Garrett

    Ah, also just Googled it. Brutal.

  87. 87 Mannie32

    kobe is gonna come out much stronger in the second half, he’ll try to bring the lakers on his back… being the best player in the world, he can do that… so pistons need to the collectively be the better team, and withstand whatever onslaught kobe has in store for them… mentally they’ll have to take the crazy shots and assists he makes… and gut out a win

  88. 88 Rban

    Stuckey has been effective in the the game at driving to the lane, Rip is just not making smart basketball play, Im not saying give up on Rip forever obviously im just saying Stuckey has been more effective give him the minutes along with afflalo.

  89. 89 Mike Payne

    Also, its nice to see Sheed hit last year’s season average in one half…

  90. 90 Laughton

    It is 1:49pm here in Albany, Western Australia.
    G’day, throw another baby on the barbie eh?

  91. 91 Forty

    Also, not to be talking smack, but DBB fantasy league watch out. Mike D’Antoni has turned my boy Jamal C into a badass. Consider yourselves pwned.

  92. 92 Mike Payne

    @Garrett, Forty:
    I know, Jason Maxiell is an asshole…

    /went there, ticket seat to hell please.

  93. 93 Garrett

    Avery Johnson sounds like my grandma.

  94. 94 Forty

    Daytime Pistons sounds awesome

  95. 95 Mike Payne

    @Forty,
    I ain’t scared ‘o you unless you drafted Tayshaun Prince. He’s a fantasy STUD this season. STUDDDDDD. I’m actually considering trading Dirk Nowitzki for him in another league.

  96. 96 Forty

    How often do you think Avery is going to watch Devin Harris over the next few years and slit his wrists? What an awful, awful trade.

  97. 97 Laughton

    It’s only awesome when not working or on weekends. Or even when not shopping with the wife and kids :)

  98. 98 Shinons

    I’ll just say that I’m pleased with Dwight Howard’s basketball playing abilities.

  99. 99 Rob G

    GDay Laughton! what exactly is a “barbie”?

    Just kidding.

  100. 100 Garrett

    Shinons: I was just thinking about Dwight as I watched the highlights. Imagine if he was on our team? We’d be like 2004 only scarier.

  101. 101 PistonsGirl4Life

    “I hope all those DBBers who were saying “I dunno, I think the Lakers are going to kill us tonight” are shaking in your panties.”

    Nope, and IMHO that’s the fucking problem…

    The Pistons are beating the UNDEFEATED LAKERS by 9 at the half and I honestly don’t give a flying f*$k….

    I hate this version of the team so much that I don’t even care if we’re winning. They are devoid of soul, jerky, impossible to watch, Rip isn’t even trying, Sheed is pissed, I think the new coach is an idiot, I hate how Iverson’s game mixes with out starters (see not at all), Dyess is Gone, Smooth is gone, the idea that my “Team” was somehow better than the NBA system of putting “Stars” and “Roleplayers” together is gone, and now Kwame Brown is our starting fucking Center… let me repeat, KWAME BROWN IS OUR STARTING CENTER…

    So I wish I were shaking in my panties… I really do… but I’m not, I can’t summon up the will to give a flying f*$k….

    Yay!

  102. 102 Laughton

    Did Kwame start?

  103. 103 Garrett

    Tracy Morgan can really crash the offensive glass!

  104. 104 Jim

    It’s really nice to hear that our opponents biggest half time adjustment is to stop our dribble penetration. That would never happen pre AI.

  105. 105 Shinons

    @Garrett - You mean you’d take Howard over Kwame??

  106. 106 PistonsGirl4Life

    Note, I probably shouldn’t have read that Chauncey interview before turning on the gamecast… I realize this now but too late.

  107. 107 Shinons

    @PG4L - At least there’s still the Lions and Wolverines.

  108. 108 Rob G

    Fellas, please. Don’t let them back into it.

  109. 109 PistonsGirl4Life

    Shinons……owch

  110. 110 Garrett

    Kobe is good. LBJ might be better now, though.

  111. 111 Garrett

    Shinons: Who needs Howard with that Kwame Brown finesse move for the And-1?

  112. 112 Shinons

    ;)

  113. 113 Garrett

    Graceful basketball at its finest! The POISE of Kwame Brown, able to make the finish under duress!

  114. 114 Rob G

    Tayshaun!!!!!!

  115. 115 DJ

    Nice Dunk Tay!!!

  116. 116 Laughton

    Kwame is playing well-ish.

  117. 117 Garrett

    That was an awesome dunk. Amir, take note (and also read Boney’s 47-page laminated brochure about taking it to the rim).

  118. 118 Rob G

    Look at Kwame! That body! That skill! Able to get into the lane! He has to be the greatest top draft pick of all time! throw it down!

  119. 119 Mannie32

    nasty jam byu prriiiiiiiince

  120. 120 Laughton

    AI has me sold. I like is Nice! High Five!

  121. 121 Rob G

    I do enjoy our team getting superstar calls. Peace to PG4L, but that is certainly helpful.

  122. 122 Michael

    That call AI just got is one that Rip would never get in a million years.

  123. 123 PistonsGirl4Life

    Rob, peace back man, I really REALLY want to feel better about this…

    I keep hoping it’ll happen because obviously they aren’t going to Veto the trade on my behalf…

    So much peace in return brother, let’s hope I find a way to come around before the Playoffs…

    Cool?

  124. 124 Garrett

    I wish I could switch places with Kwame for a day, like Fred Savage and Judge Reinhold in Vice Versa (sticking with the old school theme). I’d score 60 points on 30 dunks against anyone.

  125. 125 DJ

    @Michael: That call AI just got is one that Rip would never get in a million years.

    Rip would have goten the call…a charge.

  126. 126 Forty

    PG4L: Michael Curry has done only one thing wrong this year - we need more luscious locks in the lane!

  127. 127 Mannie32

    joe dumars must be smiling wide right now

    if they can keep uo the defensive intensity, this could be a very good pistons team… and could go down as a great trade for both teams (denver cleary much much better since they acquired billups)

    the offense i knew they could figure out, what worried me the most about this trade if the perimeter defense they lost… but this game iverson seems to be doing a pretty decent job… lakers isnt a team that relies on its PG offensively, as they use the triangle… the defense looks great cuz of sheed and tay guarding kobe and gasol so well… the pistons will be tested again when they face teams with pgs like tony parker, chris paul, devin harris…

  128. 128 Keegan

    Kwame’s doing great.
    We should trade Amir for Thaddeus Young, while Amir’s value is still high.

  129. 129 Rob G

    Look, PG4L. I love the Temptations with David Ruffin. Hated ‘em with Dennis Edwards. But it happened. I know how you feel.

    Sometimes, I listen to “Papa was a rollin’ stone” and smile, though. Things might not be so bad.

  130. 130 Laughton

    Lakers are indeed stacked. I hate them. I hate them?

  131. 131 Rob G

    Is this a night of magic?

  132. 132 DJ

    SHEEEEEEEEED!

  133. 133 Forty

    Kwame has looked great in pnr d today…

  134. 134 Primosh

    no way Sheed!!

  135. 135 Mannie32

    LOL at sheed and his 3… loved his smile after haha

  136. 136 Garrett

    Love Tay’s aggressiveness.

  137. 137 Garrett

    Is it wrong that I always get a bit nervous when Kwame makes a nice defensive rebound and then turns to outlet the ball to someone?

  138. 138 Garrett

    Kwame with the block on Gasol! Take THAT, Los Angeles!

  139. 139 Rob G

    @Garrett, no, because he throws it too far. Kwame with the block! Damn!

  140. 140 Laughton

    Fuck Yeah! I am enjoying this shit right now!

  141. 141 Forty

    Wait are we good? Does Michael Curry understand more about rotations than we do? A douchebag once said: “ANYTHING’S POSSIBLE!”

  142. 142 Jim

    Kwame is playing pretty well tonight…just had a nice block on Gasol. I thought he would play terrible tonight.

  143. 143 Keegan

    Why be nervous? Kwame’s channeling Dikembe Mutombo right now, are you kidding me?

  144. 144 Garrett

    Man does not fly……..in the house of Kwame.

  145. 145 Mannie32

    kwame playing well in front of his former team tonight… he also played well in front of washington haha… i see a pattern

  146. 146 Forty

    Do you mean near double double in 24 minutes Kwame Brown?

  147. 147 Laughton

    Wasn’t it ‘Anyone can cook?’
    Hang on, thats from a movie. Anyway Kwame is cooking a big old baby cake for Gasol.

  148. 148 Rob G

    @Keegan - Kwame’s holding up one butter-covered index finger and wagging it!

  149. 149 TripleOT

    Your team is playing with great spirit and confidence. It just shows that any team with some defensive chops and patient, efficient offense can compete with these overhyped Lakers.

  150. 150 Rob G

    This is a night of magic.

  151. 151 Forty

    Lol TripleOT, you’re not biased here are you ;)

  152. 152 Mannie32

    if this game was coached by flip saunders everyone would be on his ass for keeping amir in the dog house lol… funny no one has mentioned that (at least from what i saw) amir hasn’t played yet… double standard with michael curry

    but yea i think he’s showing amir some tough love… making him prove himself back into rotation… hopefully will only make him better rather than discourage him

  153. 153 Laughton

    I want to hear Final Countdown!

  154. 154 Rob G

    TripleOT: Get outta hear with your “defensive intensity” and “brotherhood” and your “intensity”! We don’t need it around here! Gon n git!

  155. 155 TripleOT

    lol

  156. 156 Forty

    Finger Wag for Kwame! +10,000 to whoever made the Dikembe comment!

  157. 157 Laughton

    Kwa-Me!

  158. 158 Rob G

    KWAME BROWN WITH THE D?!??!>!?11231243

  159. 159 Garrett

    Kwame seriously just wagged the finger!!! No you di’in’t, Kwame!

  160. 160 TripleOT

    The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

  161. 161 Rob G

    SHOWBE IN THE HIZZY GOTTA KEEP TYPING IN CAPS!!@!111!!!

  162. 162 Forty

    Anybody else see Afflalo and Kwame both talking the entire time to AI to let him know when the pick would come? We are communicating on D, making great weakside rotations, helping the helper, insert defensive cliche here. I know it’s a better matchup for our D b/c they are more triangle, less pnr. But still a really positive performance through 3.

  163. 163 Rob G

    TripleOT: what’s the word in Boston about McDyess? We want him back; is he still being pursued there? Are fans chanting his name? You can’t have him!

  164. 164 Keegan

    COME ON KWAME!!!!! GET THAT SHIP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  165. 165 Keegan

    Mannie, you may get your Amir appearance yet.

  166. 166 slappy

    The Pistons own the Lakers like the Celtics own the Pistons.

  167. 167 Garrett

    Keegan: I lol’ed at that.

  168. 168 Forty

    If we win this year, does Jod D get exec of year for the Kwame signing? There may have been a few other personnel moves, but that’s the one that’s standing out.

  169. 169 Keegan

    Yay! WDFN “slappy” reference in a user name! Get the cornbread!

  170. 170 Rob G

    “We look human tonight.” Yes, the gods are being challenged by these upstart “Pistons”

  171. 171 Garrett

    Kwame has morphed into a basketball player.

  172. 172 Forty

    I think the Celtics are still the best team in the NBA - I’d take the C’s in 5 or 6 over these guys. And New Orleans or Utah could get them too IMO.

  173. 173 Rob G

    This is indeed a night of magic.

  174. 174 Tricks574

    1 more board and Kwame has a double double… Seriously, WTH?

  175. 175 TripleOT

    Rob G.

    I hear that Cassell is in contact with Dice, and KG is making noise about how much he’d like to play with him and now they share an agent, Andy Miller, and Miller’s clients are like a family.

    Now that the Cs bench bigs have strung a few sub par performeances together, the Dice pursuit might heat up. I heard Ainge on sports radio this week, and although he wouldn’t speak about dcie specifically, he said ‘the Celtics will pursue aggressively any FA that they think will help the club.”

  176. 176 Garrett

    Vujacic is that annoying guy at the Y who you hate to play against because you’ll probably land on his foot and sprain your ankle.

  177. 177 Keegan

    I can see LawyerBoy walking around, chest puffed up, wagging his finger at us all tomorrow.

  178. 178 Rob G

    TripleOT: I don’t know if you have Ainge’s email but tell him about the bum knees and also Dice is a Republican. Boston wouldn’t want him.

  179. 179 Laughton

    Put it away Max. Its empty.

  180. 180 TripleOT

    Vujacic is the kind of guy at the Y who you hate to play against because you’ll probably trip on his skirt and sprain your ankle.

  181. 181 Forty

    Ugly few minutes for Vujacic there

  182. 182 TripleOT

    After this game Sasha will vow to not wear anything with the colors blue, white and red in it.

  183. 183 Primosh

    I hate Vujacic so much.

  184. 184 Rob G

    Look at our box score and tell me we have a superstar. We have a balanced attack tonight.

  185. 185 Laughton

    Put the foot down and blow these chumps out. I want Hollinger to explain this bitch with numbers!

  186. 186 Brad

    I like the chick in the front row who’s sitting, literally, 1′ from the court… getting irritated at the basketball player that lands in her lap. If you dont’ want front row seats… I’ll take em!

  187. 187 Forty

    Iverson has significantly outplayed Kobe…

  188. 188 Forty

    Brad - I thought EXACTLY the same thing when I saw the replay. I was like, oh pardon him for playing the sport your rich boyfriend paid to watch.

  189. 189 Rob G

    Brad - she’s irritated that sexy, sexy Herrmann isn’t in her lap

  190. 190 Brad

    Vuja-bitch

  191. 191 Laughton

    Lamar Odom flavoured bullshit. Mmmm Delicious!

  192. 192 Rob G

    What the hell was that?

  193. 193 Rob G

    Vujacichk is the Western Conference version of Varejoaow

  194. 194 Garrett

    Vujacic used his spaz powers to sprain his own ankle! Unprecedented!

  195. 195 Forty

    Header don’t lie

  196. 196 Rob G

    Garrett +1

  197. 197 Laughton

    Dagger!

  198. 198 Rob G

    TTTTTTTAYSHAUN!!!!!

  199. 199 Garrett

    Tay is much less of an emotionless robot, which is wonderful to watch! Awesome 3.

  200. 200 Forty

    @ Rob G - like Andy V but without actually getting all the stupid calls. Varejao got away with it in ‘07 against us. Ah bad officiating, you make names like Boobie a household name (OMG 30 points against the Pistons after the “LeBron game” OMG OMG OMG).

  201. 201 Rob G

    Supaman dat ho!

  202. 202 TripleOT

    LA born NBA players seem to love to torture the Lakers at Staples. I haven’t been a big Prince fan, but he seems to be benefitting by more or an isolation offense than the Chauncey-led share the ball all the time scheme.

  203. 203 Laughton

    Sideshow Bob has a girlfriend? And she plays for the Lakers?
    Inconceivable.

  204. 204 Mike Payne

    ATTN: DBBers who thought Detroit was going to “get killed” tonight. I can’t wait to call you bitches out.

  205. 205 Rob G

    Take that, LA Stars! We have Kidd Rock! Recognize.

  206. 206 Forty

    Stone the witches MP

  207. 207 slappy

    I’d love to see the Laker message boards right now!

  208. 208 Garrett

    Trade Kobe? Phire Phil?

  209. 209 Laughton

    The D is awesome tonight.

  210. 210 Rob G

    @TripleOT: you mean “Compton born NBA players”

  211. 211 Jim

    Afflalo has played some great defense on Kobe tonight.

  212. 212 Brad

    I wonder what Adande’s gonna say about his…. OBVIOUSLY the end of the LA era!!!!11

  213. 213 Forty

    I’d take Pierce in a knife fight over Tay though…b/c he’s been in one! (oh i went there Paul)

  214. 214 Mannie32

    greeeeat game
    makin me believe again

  215. 215 TripleOT

    I was thinking about Pierce too, who’s from Inglewood. When will the NBA pundits learn that Eastern Confwerence teams play real defense and Western Conference teams usually don’t?

  216. 216 Rob G

    Damn Forty you made beer shoot out my nose

  217. 217 Garrett

    Free Amir!!!!!

  218. 218 Forty

    @Triple OT - umm the Spurs and Rockets?

  219. 219 TripleOT

    The great Andrew Bynum got outplayed by Lkers castoff Kwame Brown, who had 3 assists besides his D-D. Pistons had 5 guys with 3+ assists — doesn’t happen that often.

  220. 220 Laughton

    Sorry Kobe, but I think it might be all for nought. Nice try though.

  221. 221 Forty

    Lol at Lakers fans - you’re down 16 and about to lose your first game of the season. But enjoy the block.

  222. 222 Brad

    how is that not a foul…. you see a person barely touch an elbow and THAT gets called… but Kobe flying THROUGH Rip doesn’t. The NBA… Its Rigged-tastic.

  223. 223 Mike Payne

    @Forty:
    Your Pistons Purity is as deep as it comes, you’re on the winning side, my friend. Can’t say the same for the rest of these folks.

  224. 224 Mark B.

    F U Kobe.

  225. 225 Laughton

    I taste bullshit…

  226. 226 Garrett

    If there were any chemistry problems before, this should cure it.

  227. 227 TripleOT

    @Forty - yeah they play some D, but to me Boston, Detroit and Cleveland play a much tougher and mroe consistent brand of defense than the Rockets, and the Spurs are too old and injured to be a threat anymore.

  228. 228 Rob G

    Allen Iverson is a good basketball player.

  229. 229 Rob G

    Oh yeah Roscoe!

  230. 230 TripleOT

    The only thing I like about the Lakers is how they light their home court.

  231. 231 Garrett

    The Lakers are playing like we’ve been playing the last few games. Missing shots, poor D, lots of fouls.

  232. 232 Paul M

    SHEED.

  233. 233 Forty

    Man Fisher is really locking down the perimeter D…not

  234. 234 Laughton

    Thats what AI is for. Yes it is.

  235. 235 Rob G

    @Laughton; your country is about to be famous! There is this movie called “Australia”! It looks kickass! Is that how things really are down there?

  236. 236 Laughton

    WTF is Quiznos? Do they also produce allergy medicine?

  237. 237 Forty

    Iverson is like “oh THIS is what having teammates is like”

  238. 238 Rob G

    @Laughton: Quiznos produces botulism.

  239. 239 Rban

    SUPERSTAR CALLS AND STELLAR DEFENSE!!!!

  240. 240 Rob G

    Kobe got called for a foul? Against us? Yes. Oh, god yes.

  241. 241 Forty

    And I’m like “so THIS is what it was like to be a Heat fan in ‘06″

  242. 242 Brad

    Kwame Brown with the double-double… we just need to play him against his old teams.

  243. 243 TripleOT

    Kobe Scissorhands gets away with it again. Looked very Game 5ish.

  244. 244 Laughton

    Rob G: Yeh its exactly like that. Well maybe not in Sydney. Hugh Jackman has the fakest Aussie accent ever.

  245. 245 Tricks574

    How was that not a foul? Thats the 2nd rape Kobe has gotten away with.

  246. 246 Rob G

    PG4L: you gotta like the fact that Curry calls timeout. Right?

  247. 247 Forty

    Dear refs, we’ll trade you the ridiculous call on Kobe the prior possession for the ridiculous non-call on that last one.

    Cheers,
    Forty

  248. 248 Laughton

    Is Will Arnett doing voiceover for Phil?

  249. 249 Rob G

    Is it just me or does Phil Jackson’s voice sound cartoonish?

  250. 250 Rob G

    @Laughton: Come on! This is a five thousand dollar suit!

  251. 251 Garrett

    Phil Jackson: I think we made a huge mistake.

  252. 252 Brad

    Rip is slapping him like he’s his Vuja-bitch!!

  253. 253 Laughton

    Lakers need to take it like a man and STOP FOULING.
    Games over, go home Jack.

  254. 254 Garrett

    Argh. Vujacic totally just did a KG, trying to grab the ball from Rip after the whistle to start the play. I HATE when guys do that. HATE IT. And KG is the king.

  255. 255 Keegan

    We should trade Rip for Andrew Bynum.

  256. 256 Forty

    I don’t think you can let a player punk you like that. Someone needs to take Vujabitch out.

  257. 257 Rob G

    Phil Jackson: How do we win? With ill-uuuuusions.

  258. 258 Mannie32

    give the lakers a lot of credit for playing right down to the wire… wow

  259. 259 Forty

    Agreed Garrett, he and KG are two of the least classy players in the NBA. See ball-spike against McDyess.

  260. 260 Garrett

    So much for sharing the minutes! Iverson is dominating.

  261. 261 Primosh

    some funny shots by the lakers

  262. 262 TripleOT

    Can’t wait to be at the Garden Thursday night. Battle of the Lakers Killers.

  263. 263 Forty

    Did anybody just see Vujacic try and draw a T on Stuckey. What a fucking douchebag. You gotta take a guy like that out. Seriously, lay him the fuck out.

  264. 264 Mark B.

    We’ve scored 100+ in each one of our wins….iloveit

  265. 265 Rob G

    It’s like 1989 all over again…

  266. 266 Sean W.

    classy post game interview iverson!

  267. 267 Garrett

    Q: How did you manage to put 106 points up on the board?
    A: Just attack.

    Amen, Iverson. Amen.

  268. 268 Mark B.

    What’d he say Sean? Us folks on FSN got the Sheed interview

  269. 269 Rob G

    What did Sheed say?

  270. 270 TripleOT

    Lakers 95 points on 95 shots, with Kobe scoring only 29 points on 30 shots. Efficient Pistons scoring 106 points on only 69 shots. 1 point per shot against 1.5 pps. is a buttkicking.

  271. 271 Rob G

    AI said: “AI has got to be the best AI he can be. AI can only do what AI does.”

  272. 272 Mike Payne

    Those that predicted that the lakers would “kill us” need to seriously suck on some crow. you are faithless bastards, I can’t wait to call you out.

  273. 273 Mark B.

    We hang our hats on playing good D and have for the last 7-10 years and that being able to use Kwame makes us a very versatile team.

  274. 274 Mr Monday

    I’m not going to jump on the Kwame-Wagon yet. Let’s see how he does against the big boys in PHX.

    Great win overall though.

  275. 275 Rob G

    Mike P: Vindictiveness does not become you. Welcome them back into the fold. Show your mercy unto them. They were led astray. The sheep shall return to the flock.

  276. 276 Garrett

    Quote of the night from Chauncey: “We have some defensive philosophies that I’m not really used to…”

    Translation: “Nobody plays D here and I’m not used to that.”

  277. 277 Forty

    Agreed, mercy, MP. We sacrificed Amir’s playing time for their sins today. Let he who is without Sheed cast the first three as the clock runs down in Pau Gasol’s grill.

  278. 278 Forty

    Haha, Garrett, I lol’d when he said that

  279. 279 andyfrombrooklyn

    i was sure this game would be ugly. psyched to be wrong. feeling good!

  280. 280 Michael

    Hell yes!

    It showed up months before I expected, but the play in the last six quarters are why it’s reasonable to hope for a championship for this group.

  281. 281 Sean W.

    @Mark B: When asked about how satisfying it was to come in to Staples and beat the only undefeated team, he responded by saying that nobody expected them to win all 82 and that if it wasn’t the Pistons eventually it would be someone else. His main concern is continuing to improve as a team.

  282. 282 andyfrombrooklyn

    the crow tastes pretty damn good!

  283. 283 Mike Payne

    @Rob G:
    I’m not a natural at this, all I know is that I have zero love for faithless, weak fans that don’t have our best interests at heart. I’ve seen a LOT of that here lately. It ain’t my job to be the Pistons Police, so maybe I should back off. Mercy, however, is not a natural quality. I’ll do my best, as long as the fans here can do their jobs and stay positive. This team makes it easy, after all…

  284. 284 Michael

    MP: My prediction is at the top of these comments. I am thrilled to eat my crow.

  285. 285 Mike Payne

    That said, seriously– do any of us old-timers have any respect for the hater fans that predicted a lakers blowout? They should work in sports media. In 2004. When we shattered their predictions.

  286. 286 Forty

    Don’t look now, but we’re tied for the fewest losses in the East. Reports of the Pistons’ demise were wildly exaggerated it would seem. We just kicked the shit out of a team that was beating people by 20 a game, in their gym, on the second half of a back to back.

    Our November schedule is total murder and we’re 7-2. Gotta love two back to backs where the second game is on the road against a team in last year’s finals…in the same week. Oh and we play Cleveland the night before Boston.

    Game ball goes to Amir.

    Like the Lakers in 2004, I’m out.

  287. 287 Rob G

    MP: I have seen the fear in the doubters’ eyes that would take the heart of me! And some day, the world of the Pistons will fail. But it is not this day. It is not this place.

  288. 288 Garrett

    And AI looks like he could play another game tonight. Things are coming together.

  289. 289 slappy

    The Chauncey quote was hilarious.

  290. 290 Paul M

    I said the team would need sustained strong play without horribly sloppy stretches, and did they ever deliver. Between this and Chauncey/the Nuggets beating Boston at home, this was a great night for basketball.

  291. 291 Mike Payne

    @Michael:
    you’re a solid guy, your honesty is what makes Pistons jersey’s blue. i’m no pistons policeman, but if I had anything to say, it’d be what Michael Corleone said to his brother Fredo when Fredo took a position against the family in Vegas…

    Point is, we’ve ALWAYS had the Lakers number. Just like the Jazz have always had ours. We can honestly SCHOOL the Lakers, but the Jazz hurt us bad… That said, the Lakers are nothing to us.

  292. 292 Rob G
  293. 293 Mike Payne

    @Rob G:
    are you my long-lost brother??? :)

  294. 294 andyfrombrooklyn

    an example of a fan negativity is when a stadium of angry jets fans booed chad pennington louder and louder with each frustrating possession in a a game i was at last year against the bills. they actually contributed to the loss. the jets might have won if the game was in buffalo. but the fans literally assisted the bills.
    that is fan negativity

  295. 295 Rob G

    MP: We are all brothers and sisters under the Great D whether we know it or not.

    Good night. I must finish this Heineken mini-keg now.

  296. 296 kevin s.

    What I liked about this game is that we only saw a glimpse of the playbook. When we ran set plays through Iverson, we were devastatingly effective, but we had a lot of sloppy possessions that won’t be replicated come playoff time.

    Kwame let the cat out of the bag as far as D and rebounding. Curry has every reason to expect this caliber of performance each game.

  297. 297 slappy

    From Starter To DNPer: The Amir Johnson Story

  298. 298 colin

    MP

    - I had that same thought about us owning the lakers earlier. Honestly, I was nervous about the game, just not stupid enough to predict we lose on our own fan site. Anyways, I was feeling a little nervous at work and then I thought, “Shit, we might just kick the Laker’s asses tonight” That being said, I think we’re improving steadily, but it could still be bumpy in the near term. I wouldn’t be surprised by mini winning and losing streaks. But the more I think about us owning the Lakers and the Jazz having our number, the more I realize it doesn’t make any sense. I mean, we’ve been whooping on the lakers since 04, but their team is completely different now. We shouldn’t still have their number. It’s illogical, but completely undeniable and awesome. I am going to sleep well tonight.

  299. 299 Quick Darshan

    Just finished listening to Lakers postgame. Lots of talk about how Kwame outplayed Bynum and made him uncomfortable by getting physical with him.

  300. 300 Restructer_It

    Talk about physical, Sheed harrassed big softy, pau gasol, and even put him on the deck a couple times. Prediction for sunday: we go small and make the suns try to defend us… we kick there ass.

  301. 301 Quick Darshan

    I was one of those that predicted a loss (more because it was a road game on the tail end of a back-to-back). It’s shocking how much more the Pistons hustled after the heavy minutes they logged last night.

  302. 302 Gogol

    Rumor has it that Kwame had Olivia Newton John on his Ipod before the game.

    LET’S GET PHYSICAL! PHYSICAL!

  303. 303 Rob G

    I heard he had NKOTB on his Ipod:

    “hangin’ tough / hangin’ tough / are you rough enough?”

    that’s it, off to bed 3.12am

  304. 304 Quick Darshan

    It’s amazing how many more easy shots the Pistons get now. Sheed especially gets a lot more lay-ins which can only help keep him involved in the game.

  305. 305 Restructer_It

    COnsipiracy theory: Phil Jackson lost on purpose to give his team a reality check and not get too cocky. Lakers did not look like they were playing hard during that game.

  306. 306 Jake

    Curry has to get Amir in the game,he’d be great running the floor with our quick guard unit than runs five deep. Throughout the night I wanted to see the combination of three out of the five guards with Tay and Amir. Quick defense on top with leaps and length at the 4 and 5.

    I don’t know about all these minutes for the core group. Herrmann, Max and Amir have to get clock if we want to be playoff deep. Hopefully we get ‘Dice back, obviously a huge addition if we had him for the playoff run.

    Go Pistons!

  307. 307 Gogol

    How would Phil Jackson making his players not play hard teach them a lesson?

  308. 308 joejoejoe

    Phil Jackson isn’t Yoda. His team got flat beat.

    So far it looks like Sheed, Kwame, Afflalo, and Tay are playing better since the trade and Rip, Herrmann, Max and Amir have taken a step back. Stuckey I’ll give an incomplete since he’s been hurt.

    Coach Curry is seems like he really knows what he’s doing from both a X&O standpoint and a motivation standpoint. I feel good about the players who are lagging or regressing with adjustments coming around in the long run. In the short run, we just beat the team with the best record in the league on the road on the back end of a back-to-back. So the short run looks pretty damn good.

    Note: The Golden State thread got 100 more comments than LAL? It must be because it was a Friday night.

  309. 309 Mike

    Bynum plays soft for his size. Guys his size and weight or close to it can neutralize him pretty easy.

    Sheed can defend Gasol one on one as long as the refs let em play like they did last night.

  310. 310 jay_uno

    that game was a big FU for all the experts predicting a 5th or 6th seed in this years playoffs

    we still here

    lovin it

  311. 311 g

    “GOTCHA, SUCKAZ!”

  312. 312 Quick Darshan

    19 points and 17 rebounds for Luc Richard Mbah a Moute. Granted it was an overtime game, but damn that’s good for a second round pick a couple weeks into the season.

  313. 313 Jim

    Any body else read this from Simmons? Since when has Joe D said Stuckey is going to the Hall of the Fame and the Pistons have the inside track on Lebron?

    http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/page2/story?page=simmons/081114

  314. 314 DC Dave

    Great game last night. What is up with Hubie Brown referring to AI, Tayshaun and Rasheed as the Pistons’ “Big Three” multiple times? What about Rip?

    Is Amir’s banishment permanent? Its one thing to be taken out of the starting lineup, but he didn’t play at all last night. At one point HB said something about him not being ready to play in the NBA. Hopefully he improves as the season goes along. Either way, we really need ‘Dyess back.

  315. 315 joejoejoe

    Bill Simmons is funny. He accuses Barkley of mailing it in when anybody who reads Simmons (I do, he’s good) knows he’s been using the same jokes and references for his entire career. He threw his hometown team under the bus a thousand times when they sucked and now he wants to be a proud Celtic fan? And badmouthing Joe Dumars just for giggles? Unlike the Celtic franchise that had zero pride and tanked a season to get a high draft choice the Pistons under Joe Dumars play to win every season.

  316. 316 Michael

    What does Simmons mean when he says that Dumars “badly misjudged Mehmet Okur”?

    Also, is this the same guy who predicted a second round ceiling for the Pistons last season?

  317. 317 Skylar

    Ditto, Simmons is a so-so writer, a bandwagon fan and just an overall flake.

  318. 318 Skylar

    Also Kwame doesn’t project his emotions as much as other guys, but he had to feel good about exceeding expectations against a Phil Jackson-headed lakers.

  319. 319 Fadel

    Los Angeles who?

  320. 320 Mike Payne

    @Rob G:
    I love it when a plan for a plan coming together comes together.

  321. 321 V

    QD: it looked like a scheduling loss to me too, especially since they looked so sloppy in beating GSW the night before. Vegas had the Lakers -10, I can’t say I could argue with the line.

    Re Simmons: He’s funny, which is why ESPN pays him to write. But his knowledge of basketball is equally laughable. Tough guy to take seriously. Regarding his opinion about the Pistons, he writes like the Celts fan he is.

    Let’s see:

    Botched Darko pick: yup, in retrospect
    Hired Flip: Best available (unfortunately)
    Overpaid Nazr: Best available FA center, had to replace Ben, didn’t do bad getting value for him when he got rid of him.
    Delfino: Currently highest paid player in Europe
    Brown: C’mon Bill…lol LB was being LB and that act had gotten old.
    Okur: Utah overpaid, Pistons weren’t going $3M over the cap.
    Ben: Chicago overpaid, look what happened afterwards

    If Simmons had as much knowledge of basketball as Dumars, or God forbid, even Rick Sund, has in their pinkie fingernails, he’d write a lot more intelligently. I just accept him for what he is, a funny guy, and not much more.

    I mean, this is pretty funny:

    Q: Am I the only one who can’t get over watching Kumar coaching the Heat?
    – Sleepy, Oakland, Calif.

    SG: OK, so we have Kumar coaching the Heat, Shooter coaching the Bulls, Jim Carrey coaching the Mavericks, Ron Jeremy coaching the Magic, Stanley Roper coaching the Bobcats, Terence Howard coaching the Wizards, John Lithgow coaching the Nuggets, Nic Cage coaching the Grizzlies, Tony Soprano coaching the Clippers, Maverick’s mentor from “Top Gun” coaching the Knicks, the star of “Hang Time” coaching the Kings, someone coaching the former Sonics whom a reader just described as having gotten his glasses from the windshield of a ‘68 Catalina, and someone a reader just described as “wear-your-skin-and-dance crazy” coaching the Spurs. And this ISN’T the best NBA season ever?

  322. 322 Colin

    I think I’m too much of a homer to like Bill Simmons. I went from thinking he was a funny, irreverent writer to basically thinking he’s kind of a D-Bag. His pop culture schtick gets pretty old if you’re like me and don’t give two shits about the Hills or the Surreal Life. And while he is funny, he’s got some balls to nominate himself for John Hammond’s job and then write about how Joe Dumars is overrated.

    I just got pretty worked up writing that. I hope AI shatters Rondo’s ankles next time we see Beantown. F U B.S.

  323. 323 Boney

    I am working on publishing on my laminated sheet of “inspiration” to hand to Amir the next time I see him..

    only problem is, it’s gone from 8 1/2″ x 11″ sheet to 11″ x 17″ in 1 game…

  324. 324 Fadel

    Don’t forget Woody Harrelson coaches the Milwaukee Bucks and Russel Simmons coaches the Celtics. lol

  325. 325 Kyle

    This was the best I have seen the Pistons played all season..this is what i thought was gonna happen when Allen Iverson came to the Pistons.

  326. 326 Mike Payne

    and Huey Lewis used to coach the Pistons.

  327. 327 Mike Payne

    its twitch to be square.

  328. 328 Rob G

    @boney: your inspirations will benefit from pithiness. Think more bumper sticker than manifesto. Keep in mind, Amir is a kid; he’d rather be playing video games than reading manuals on how to improve his game. Keep it short and sweet. My recommendation? “Play more like Max.”

  329. 329 Colin

    Rob G

    Could you imagine a genetically engineered player that had the brute strength and explosive baby-eating capabilities of Max mixed with the length and rebounding prowess of Amir. Jesus. I would be ascurred to watch.

  330. 330 Boney

    Colin,

    He doesn’t even need to eat babies like Max… just be fearless to the rack like Snowflake and Amir would be unstoppable.

  331. 331 Rob G

    Colin - looking over the scientific literature, I’ve found that scientists have actually created such a man. But the project had to be scrapped by order of Stern: “This would destroy the League,” he said.

  332. 332 Garrett

    Boney: Can I contribute to the foreward?

  333. 333 joejoejoe

    I think Colin is describing Amare Stoudemire on a good night.

  334. 334 Forty

    Bill Simmons is a funny writer who clearly watches a lot of basketball. He’s not terribly knowledgeable and frequently writes ridiculous things (anyone remember the article where he suggested the suns just needed to move amare to us for sheed but it’s the “no balls association” so they didn’t?). But I’m pretty sure his job is to be entertaining, not 100pct objective.

  335. 335 colin

    Amare on a good night + Defense.

  336. 336 Quick Darshan

    That Morrow kid from Golden State that played well against the Pistons just dropped 37 on the Clippers.

  337. 337 Mike Payne

    …and I picked him up on the DBB fantasy league when he had already dropped 32 :) here’s to hoping he gets big minutes going forward.

  338. 338 b23

    Simmons hates Motown. Dunno why, though it’s probably either rooted in its non-Vegas-ness, or the Detroit-Boston games of the 1980s, when Detroit finally played harder, rougher, and meaner than Boston had been playing.

    Read his schizophrenic columns written around the 2004 finals… now, that’s some funny cognitive dissonance rationalizing and madness.

  339. 339 Lyndon

    Re:Colin

    “Could you imagine a genetically engineered player that had the brute strength and explosive baby-eating capabilities of Max mixed with the length and rebounding prowess of Amir. Jesus. I would be ascurred to watch.”

    The Man you speak of is Kwame Brown with hands and a brain

  340. 340 Quick Darshan

    The Lakers radio broadcast mentioned this argument between Rip and MC…

    “One of the problems the Pistons had late in the game was the play of Richard Hamilton, who finished with 12 points but missed seven of his 10 shots from the field. After he turned the ball over with 45.9 seconds to play, Curry decided to take him out and put Rodney Stuckey in. Hamilton wasn’t pleased with the decision, and made his displeasure known to Curry.

    ‘It really was nothing,’ Curry said. ‘He was sitting over there with the refs, we’re getting unrattled. I expect the veteran guys to make sure to make sure things were alright. I didn’t want a tech. A good way to get the ref’s attention off someone is to sub somebody, that’s all.’”

    It’s good to see MC lay down the law.

  341. 341 Rob G

    QD - do you have a link to that story? I’m not done obsessing over this win.

  342. 342 Quick Darshan
  343. 343 Boney

    Garrett,

    Sure.

    I don’t just claim to know talent when I see it but, I really feel if the kid had a mean streak in him he’d be one of the better big men in the league.

    Honestly, I don’t think Amir will ever get a technical foul the way things are going. It seems that frustration never enters the kid’s mind. Instead of getting angry he gets down on himself, it’s not worth playing a kid who has all the talent in the world who does not want to fight for that inch.

    /turning off “Any Given Sunday”
    /going back to watching UFC

  344. 344 Boney

    I seriously think if this fucking kid dunked on someone he’s “not supposed to” that the statement would be made.

    Right now, he’s content with not going up strong and laying it in rather than possibly blowing a thunderdunk with 2 hands because he might hurt someone’s feelings.

    I want the kid to prove all the doubters wrong, he’s got the chops to do what we need him to do. Throw it down on someone’s head young man… stare someone down… talk about someone’s momma… get T’d up for no reason… do something to let us know you’re there

  345. 345 LawyerBoy

    Amir doesn’t have a mean streak?

  346. 346 Garrett

    Man, this Justin.tv site is seriously bad for my work production. I’ve never had access to so many games at once and it’s blowing my mind.

  347. 347 Rob G

    LB: I’d say… no. He’s been pushed down (most recently by Mikki Moore) and he just kinda bounces up like… this:
    http://www.carnivalsource.com/images/products/IN280.jpg

  348. 348 Garrett

    Rob G: Not only did Amir just take it, but so did the rest of the team. Amir took a two fisted shiver to the back into the backboard stand and nobody batted an eye.

  349. 349 Boney

    Amir puts forth an attitude sometimes like he’s just happy to be there.

    Own that shit young man, own it

  350. 350 Quick Darshan

    Rob G, that story was on mlive.com

  351. 351 Quick Darshan

    Damn, I can smell those fires here in Hollywood.

  352. 352 JackDutch

    mp, i’m a dbb old-timer and i didn’t believe the pistons would win this game and i posted as much (see comment 4.) we’ve had 3 or 4 really good quarters out of the 4 games preceding the lakers game since the trade. i just didn’t see it. i don’t know how anyone did outside of blind faith. kwame brown is going to outplay andrew bynum? really? if that was the corner, it was a hairpin turn. fantastic. they got every shot they wanted against the #1 ranked defense in the nba. i don’t know how everybody can’t be on board with this trade after last night. even bill simmons’ dad.

  353. 353 Rob G

    To be fair to those who predicted a loss, we know these Pistons. They have a history of playing up (or down) to their competition. MP, you could give the people who predicted a loss a sort of “get out of jail card,” redeemable when the Pistons lose to a team like the Grizzlies.

  354. 354 Mike Payne

    @JackDutch:
    “i don’t know how anyone did outside of blind faith”

    I don’t think it was blind faith at all. We’ve always had the Laker’s number. Even in light of a big shakeup and slow-going adjustments, if anyone was going to end the Laker’s streak it was going to be the Pistons.

    Yes, the new team wasn’t clicking yet, we had played poorly since Iverson’s first and the Laker’s dominance couldn’t be written off. A lot of the game was decided between Bynum and Brown. But those two aside, we always own the matchup with the Lake Show.

    Kudos to Princess Hands though, he’s starting to earn his salary. A few more games like that, he’ll start to earn respect, too.

  355. 355 JackDutch

    qd: imagines how it smells in burbank.

    mp: good for you. based on how we had played, how they’ve played, and my belief that what happened in ‘04 has little bearing on what happens in ‘08, i didn’t think it would happen. i don’t think this makes me less of a fan though.

    all: have you guys seen on nbatv the “nba top 10 games of the week”? i’m trying to wrap my head around it, but it looks like an nfl replay-esque 5 hour block of the best games of the week. cut down to no frill.

    ok, i’m going to try your mobile dbb site, matt, from the sports bar today. it better work, nerdlinger…

  356. 356 LawyerBoy

    Rob G: I was being sarcastic about Amir. I have been calling him soft for a very long time. Now many of his staunchest supporters are finally agreeing with me. I want Amir to succeed, but if I feel he’s not cut out for it, I’m not gonna blow smoke. There’s a little bit of schadenfreude for me in the DBB Amir reversal, but above all I really wish the guy would just get a clue.

    Good for Curry for sitting him too. He should demote Rip too, if he keeps turning in these clunkers. Maybe getting yanked from the starting lineup, getting pulled in Oakland after :33 and getting subseuently called out by Curry on national TV will teach Amir what the stakes really are. Plenty of players show up in preseason, or summer league or in the D-League, but it takes a different caliber to show up each night in the NBA. It’s probably a lot mental.

    Simply put, Amir isn’t there yet and Curry isn’t going to waste his time waiting for him to get there while we have games to win. He gave him a shot in the starting lineup, and Amir didn’t deliver. Amir’s 21, it took Tyson Chandler until he was 24 and got a change of scenery. Maybe that’s what’s in the cards for Amir. I just really wish Curry had been coach when we had Nazr.

    JD: Not exactly a white flag in this prediction either: http://www.detroitbadboys.com/archives/2008-11-13/the-pistons-are-in-golden-state/#comment-150917
    re: the fires … Insane is about all I can say. So much land. So many people. Sad.

  357. 357 Boney

    never before have I wanted a fire to burn down someone’s house so much… or at least burn up an internet connection or computer

  358. 358 Boney

    TRADE AMIR!

    /submitting new shirt design to DBB

  359. 359 Mike Payne

    @LB:
    8 games at 17mpg is too soon for an “i told you so”. Especially when this trip’s matchups favor Kwame.

    Per 36, the kid is a rebound shy of outperforming Ben Wallace at 22 across the board. For what is essentially his rookie season, your postmortem is a bit premature, just like your return to DBB.

  360. 360 Rob G

    @LB: sorry, the sarcasm didn’t come through. Moreover, I cannot tell all the people who comment here on DBB apart. That is: who loves Amir? Who thinks he’s overrated? Who hates Curry? Who thinks he’s the man? Who has fantasies about Herrmann? etc. Perhaps I should pay attention.

    Or, perhaps we need a batch of subgroups - the I Heart Amir Club; The Detroit Piston Society to Bring Flip Back; The Fraternal Order of the Knights of Kwame Brown; etc, each with open membership. Then we can sponsor debates.

  361. 361 Joel

    Will somebody real quick dub me First Knight of the Venerable Kwame? I even liked him when he was on the Lakers, for the same reason that Corky was everyone’s favorite character on “Life Goes On.”

  362. 362 joejoejoe

    I’m the treasurer for the Walter Herrmann Ladies Coats Aren’t Just for Ladies Club.

  363. 363 Rob G

    I’m head G for “P-Dawg Brez-X’s International Gangsta Collective.” Our theme-rap shall be titled “Primoz in da hizzy what” and we will wear headbands that denote our rank in the “crew”. Y’all can fetch my Starbucks now.

  364. 364 joejoejoe

    Re: Ben Wallace

    He’s having his best season in 3 years I think. The reports I see out of Cleveland suggest he’s the healthiest he’s been (did he have nagging back trouble?) and playing solid, if unspectacular ball. His offense isn’t hurting them so much because he never shoots anymore. It’s for the best that he just kicks out every offensive rebound and then just acts as a picker and hangs weakside so that his man can’t double when LeBron drives to the hoop. Big Ben can still dunk a bunny.

    I’ll always love the guy no matter how he plays. He’s like an NFL running back in a lot of ways, you can only take so many hits before you lose your explosiveness and then all of a sudden your 4.4 yards per carry is 3.4 yards per carry and you aren’t an every down back. If it’s 3rd-and-2 or 1st-and-goal at the 3, you still have a role to play. Keep on ballin’ Big Ben!

  365. 365 Boney

    I’ll be the secretary of the “Thank god LB isn’t our GM and I hope he falls down the stairs and there are sharp knives at the bottom” gang”.

    Amir will be fine, he just needs a mean streak.

  366. 366 JackDutch

    Using mobile site. From Hollywood. Somehow it does smell worse here than Burbank.

    Kill the Suns!!!!!!!!!

    How’s that for optimism, MP? Or at least blind hatred of non-Detroit bball teams….

  367. 367 Colin

    gee, boney, you really know how to make a guy feel at home, don’t you.

  368. 368 Skylar

    I wish we could get Ben back, him & Sheed & Dyess are fantastic mentors to the young bigs in my opinion.

  369. 369 Colin

    Skylar, I love Ben, but at this point I think Kwame is more valuable than anything Ben can offer as a mentor.

    I just threw up in my mouth a little.

  370. 370 Diablo

    As a Piston fan, I’m ready to do the unthinkable.

    Sweep the West Coast! Dun Dun Duuuuuun!

  371. 371 joejoejoe

    If we get another 300 comments for the Suns game in this thread my head is going to explode from scrolling down.

    With Nash out with a suspension and Barbosa away on bereavement leave (his mother passed away, he’s in Brazil) the Pistons are going go small and run, run, run. Phoenix will be trying to slow the game down but I don’t think it will work. Amare can get 35 and it won’t be enough. A vintage Shaq game is all that is standing between Detroit and a win.

  372. 372 Sean W.

    Nash is actually back for this game. The suns will still be without Barnes and Barbosa though.

  373. 373 Jim

    joejoejoe…Nash is playing today, he only had a 1 game suspension and served it when the Suns played Sacramento. Barnes is out though since he got a 2 game suspension, as well as Barbosa.

  374. 374 kevin s.

    Up until last game, Amir had outplayed Kwame. One game does not a season make.

  375. 375 Mike Payne

    @JackDutch:
    Hell yes! I’m with you, my man :)

  376. 376 Joel

    Man oh man, I sure hope someone posts a link to the Suns game either in this thread or in the eventual “Pistons are Taking on the Suns” thread…

    that sure would be swell…

  377. 377 PS

    This DET-PHX stream looks good.

    http://www.justin.tv/joebtv

  378. 378 Matt Watson

    Suns game thread is (finally) up

  379. 379 JackDutch

    finally we’re on the same page, mp! see you in the other thread…

  380. 380 Boney

    Colin,

    I do my best.

    I am the resident irritant to LB and anyone else from Bloomington, Indiana or any surrounding areas.

    I am convinced that people from Indiana do not have a sense of humor.

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