Pistons host Cavs

We’re 10 games into the season and the Pistons have played only three games at the Palace. If that looks funny to you, there’s good reason: only two other teams (Portland and Atlanta) are still waiting to play their fourth home game of the year. Fortunately things will start to even out: five of the next six games are at home, with the exception of tomorrow’s re-match in Boston.

Tonight the Pistons host the Cavs, and will attempt to chip away at Cleveland’s one and a half game lead in the Central. I’ll be at the game, but instead of working I’ve been invited to the Grand Opening of the Canadian Club Terrace for some pre-game whiskey tasting and dinner, which is why you’re getting such an early game thread. Blogging, it’s a glamorous life, I tell you.

The ball tips at 7:30 on FSN — leave your thoughts in the comments.

185 Responses to “Pistons host Cavs”


  1. 1 Shinons

    This is off topic, but I’d really like to see MC use Amir the way Portland is using Oden. Throwing him out there, dealing with his ups and downs even if it costs a few wins, putting him in the best possibility to succeed.

  2. 2 Rban

    post any stream links of the game if u find them.

  3. 3 Laughton

    I wont be able to watch this one as I have an exam. I hope I return in time to see the end. My damn life is interfering with my Pistons again dammit!
    Prediction: Detroit wins, 105 - 92

    Or thats my opinion anyway.

  4. 4 Forty

    Wait shinons - you mean we should be patient with a 21 year old with insane upside who every nba statistician agrees is one of the most productive players on the roster? But don’t we need to try and win every game in the regular season? And isn’t it more fun to give up on amir 5 games into the season and say that a guy who’s had one of the highest rebound rates in the nba is too soft?

    Sometimes I just don’t get you.

  5. 5 Chandragupta
  6. 6 Garrett

    Oh no! Justin.tv is letting me down! I’m not getting the stream! My world is crumbling.

  7. 7 Joel

    I even updated my flash. So disappointing.

  8. 8 Primosh

    yeah…and video feed is kinda crappy tonight…..go PISTONS!

  9. 9 JackDutch

    if sheed doesn’t miss the rest of the game, i like our odds…

  10. 10 Jim

    Sheed is hot at the start!

  11. 11 Garrett

    Whew. It’s working now. I can come back in off the ledge.

  12. 12 Garrett

    Diplomacy at its finest from Special K: “I think you have to get Kwame Brown the ball when he’s READY…”

  13. 13 kevin s.

    “Wait shinons - you mean we should be patient with a 21 year old with insane upside who every nba statistician agrees is one of the most productive players on the roster?”

    If only he could learn how to bat the ball out of bounds.

  14. 14 Boney

    I hate J.A Adande

    almost as much as I hate Chris Sheridan

  15. 15 Boney

    anyone got a link that works for this game

  16. 16 Garrett

    http://www.justin.tv/ballerzzz is working now (at least it is for me).

  17. 17 Restructer_It

    That really pissed me off that Tay couldn’t put it in the hoop after that isolation.

  18. 18 Garrett

    Man, LeBron is just on a whole ‘nother level. Everything he does is just pretty much better than everyone else on the court. He moves quicker, jumps higher, runs faster. Even his passes seem to be more crisp. I think I’d spontaneously combust if we got him in 2010.

  19. 19 Garrett

    Frustration: thy name is Amir. Awesome rebound and outlet to Rip, he ran the floor hard and got it back for a wide-open dunk. Then he comes back down and falls for a Varejao pump fake 15 feet from the basket and fouls him.

  20. 20 Satchmo

    anyone see the thing going across the espn ticker that the bobcats are trying to sign ‘Dyess?

  21. 21 Garrett

    Uh oh. I think I’m talking to myself.

  22. 22 wutsurbeef

    there is no fluidity in the offense and the cavs seem locked on
    D
    maybe they are related

  23. 23 Primosh

    blaaaah…can’t see shIt.

  24. 24 wutsurbeef

    verajo is givin us the most trouble

  25. 25 wutsurbeef

    being manhandled without LJ

  26. 26 Garrett

    But……..if the game doesn’t come back on that means I have to do work! :(

  27. 27 Mike

    I can’t believe that into his 4th season the Pistons coaches still haven’t taught Amir how to draw a charge.

  28. 28 Garrett
  29. 29 Shinons

    Yeah Forty, I don’t know what I was thinking - especially when we can give 30 minutes a game to THE Kwame Brown.

  30. 30 wutsurbeef

    amir sux

  31. 31 Jim

    Take it strong Amir!

  32. 32 Primosh

    Thanks for the working link Garrett.

  33. 33 Restructer_It

    that’s the second time amir has done that

  34. 34 Garrett

    Amir? Man…

  35. 35 Boney

    Amir needs to put on like 25lbs

    I’m tired of watching these offseason videos Matt Watson puts up of Amir doing things like conditioning… he needs to just sit at Fat Burger and eat

  36. 36 JackDutch

    we’ve committed 11 fouls.

    to cleveland’s 4.

    are they just playing that much better defense?

  37. 37 Garrett

    Ben with the airball! I think that was for us. *solitary tear* That one….was for us.

  38. 38 Restructer_It

    there it is, i thought for a second that air ball was going to get a pass on dbb…

  39. 39 wutsurbeef

    maxiell hasn’t done much this season either…

  40. 40 wutsurbeef

    either off. or deff fourl reffs have been terrible this half

  41. 41 Garrett

    Terrible no-call on that Tayshaun drive.

  42. 42 Restructer_It

    it was a walk anyway

  43. 43 Rob G

    Amir needs to find some of the weight JMax lost.

    Anyone here have strong feelings one way or another about Varejao? He inspires… emotions in me.

  44. 44 Boney

    if I saw Varejao on the street, I’d call him a punk bitch to his face.

    those are the feelings he inspires

  45. 45 Jim

    How did Stuckey get to that ball?

  46. 46 Restructer_It

    You guys’ feed is about 3 minutes behind… If something crazy happens at the end i’ll try to keep my mouth closed.

  47. 47 Mike

    That third foul on Amir was BS.

    West jumped into him as the shot clock expired with no intent to even shoot the ball. Total baloney.

    As Chick Hearn used to say.

    “No Harm No Foul”

  48. 48 andyfrombrooklyn

    i’m thinking this spring is going to be much less stressful. unless of course my new fave team the nuggets really make a play for the west.

  49. 49 Rob G

    I was really hoping we’d close that quarter out right. Instead, we let Mo go on a mini-run.

  50. 50 Rob G

    Cutting Special K loose! Giving him some minutes on the tele-strator! I like this.

  51. 51 andyfrombrooklyn

    and mcdyess should have considered a yes on that trade. and nothing would make me happier than to eat a bowl of uncooked crow but the trade is looking pretty bad right now at least for this year. sorry to be so negative.

  52. 52 wutsurbeef

    Kelser is makin a much sense as bill walton

  53. 53 Garrett

    At least we don’t have to listen to the Raptor’s crew. I just flipped it to their game and it’s like listening to a golf broadcast.

  54. 54 Rob G

    Erin Esurance is doin’ alright

  55. 55 detroitblue

    thanx garret for the working link. and yeah, agree with andy.

  56. 56 Garrett

    Whoa, Iverson can still get up! Nice steal by Kwame.

  57. 57 Rob G

    Take over, Tay. Do it. Take this over.

  58. 58 Boney

    AI with the triple try!
    \

  59. 59 Garrett

    Don’t look know but we’re down by 2!

  60. 60 detroitblue

    tay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  61. 61 Garrett

    *Er, now.

  62. 62 Rob G

    haiku

    fighting our way back,
    Tayshaun, the Answer can beat
    FPLBJ

  63. 63 wutsurbeef

    donde esta numero trenta?

  64. 64 Rob G

    Spell CHECK, son!

  65. 65 Jim

    Afflalo comes in for the 1st time all game and immediately drains a 3. Nice.

  66. 66 detroitblue

    lebron is a truck.

  67. 67 Diablo

    Kwame has been looking solid.

  68. 68 Jim

    Maxiell is hungry! Nice pass spell check.

  69. 69 andyfrombrooklyn

    i hate the cavs more than i hate the celtics. i hate lebran and varejow

  70. 70 Jim

    You can’t stop AA, you can only hope to contain him.

  71. 71 Diablo

    Snowflake is cold blooded.

  72. 72 Rob G

    CHECK YO SPELLIN SON IT’S AFLLALO

  73. 73 Diablo

    I know Rodney Stuckey is getting trapped on the pick but I wish he get his hand up atleast even if Mo Williams is already about to shoot.

  74. 74 prophecy_projectz

    This is a good one

  75. 75 prophecy_projectz

    Answered

  76. 76 Diablo

    AI making it happen.

  77. 77 Jim

    Sheeeeeeed!

  78. 78 prophecy_projectz

    Sheeeeeeeeed!

  79. 79 Diablo

    SHEEEEEEEEEEED!!!

  80. 80 Jim

    Sheeeeed again!

  81. 81 prophecy_projectz

    Roscoe!

  82. 82 Restructer_It

    wow i’ve never seen such an ill advised shot… and he made it!

  83. 83 Diablo

    SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -again-

  84. 84 Boney

    SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED

  85. 85 detroitblue

    OMG SHEED

  86. 86 Tim

    Sheeeed! again

  87. 87 Boney

    MFRW!@@@@#!!!!

  88. 88 prophecy_projectz

    Jesus even the radio feed is awful tonight

  89. 89 Tim

    Sheeeeeed! again

  90. 90 joejoejoe

    Get on the blocks ‘Sheed! Oh nevermind…

  91. 91 Rob G

    Is this a night of magic?

  92. 92 Shinons

    Yay.

  93. 93 Jim

    Nice take AI.

    Stuckey is running the pick and roll very well down the stretch.

  94. 94 prophecy_projectz

    This Iverson kid is kinda nice you know…

  95. 95 Diablo

    COUNT THAT BABY AND A FOUL!

  96. 96 Rob G

    more haiku

    Afflalo, bench secret
    no more! Bangin’ tramps, playing D
    on Lebron. Snowflake?

  97. 97 Diablo

    And Stuckey…jesus.

  98. 98 Diablo

    And Max…

  99. 99 Boney

    The Pistons won’t make it out of the first round of the playoffs this year.

    Regards,
    Prophecy_Projekts

  100. 100 prophecy_projectz

    Calmy handled by Rodders there

  101. 101 Jim

    Suckey is taking over!

  102. 102 Diablo

    Stuckey is in the zone.

  103. 103 prophecy_projectz

    It aint 07 Lebron!

  104. 104 Diablo

    Jesus, Sheed I know you could shoot 3s but when did you become so deadly accurate?

  105. 105 joejoejoe

    That’s just wrong. Rasheed looks a cross between Wilt and Steve Kerr out there.

  106. 106 Jim

    I really like that Curry stuck with this line-up down the stretch.

  107. 107 Restructer_It

    Sheed must have been talking to Charles Barkley these last few days… Rasheed Wallace can be a top three player in this league!

  108. 108 Rob G

    Damn we have some scorers on this team. I think they play defense, too.

  109. 109 prophecy_projectz

    @Joejoejoe

    If you mean he’s sleeping with a lotta hoes and dismantling exciting teams….maybe.

  110. 110 Mannie32

    we’re making a habit outta ruining teams’ winning streaks… first LA now Cleveland
    i like that

  111. 111 Rob G

    PP - you make so many negative comments, but I gotta do it
    +1

  112. 112 prophecy_projectz

    lol@ Iverson dribbling around there like he’s 12.

  113. 113 Rob G

    This is a night of magic.

  114. 114 Rob G

    Cleveland took way too many 3 balls. We must have defended pretty well.

  115. 115 Garrett

    Wow, what a turnaround.

  116. 116 Q Dog

    Don’t call it a comeback, we’ve been here for years!

  117. 117 joejoejoe

    I like how Stuckey gets the chest bump from LeBron. It’s like “you’re my PG in London 2012, right?”.

  118. 118 Jim

    We won the battle for McDyess!

    Great win. Great second half…outscored them 58-40.

  119. 119 Restructer_It

    Tay was a disappointment.

  120. 120 prophecy_projectz

    This was a very good win, real confidence booster against basically the conference favourites. Especially considering the boys came from behind (pause) and ended a big streak. I guess we can hang with the big dogs with this new lineup. This and the Laker win proved it. Lets hope we get more of these and less of those Phx/Bos games.

  121. 121 Quick Darshan

    joejoejoe, how about “you’re my PG in 2010?”

  122. 122 detroitblue

    great game. lebron for detroit.

  123. 123 andyfrombrooklyn

    i am eating my raw crow and it tastes real, real good.

  124. 124 Rob G

    Restructor - What? did we just see the same game? 9/5/4 and great D is not disappointing. A disappointment would be a loss.

  125. 125 Garrett

    Nice, that punchsports.blogspot.com site is showing game 6 of the 1993 Bulls/Suns series. Ahhhh, that NBA theme. Music to my ears.

  126. 126 Rob G

    One thing that’s easy to forget is this is AI’s first win in the Palace

  127. 127 joejoejoe

    Quick Darshan - Hah! FPLJ!

    If you add FPCB Detroit might have 4 of Team USA’s starters in London. But like Bill Simmons says, Joe Dumars is just OK as a GM.

  128. 128 Mannie32

    haha yea garrett im watching too
    same thing i was thinking about the NBA on NBC theme

  129. 129 Restructer_It

    Rob G - He couldn’t finish in the lane, because he was too tired from playing defense on LeBrick, just like always. We were hoping this would be an All-Star statement game for him.

  130. 130 Sean W.

    “In Detroit they used to call him my second son,” Larry Brown said. “The last thing I want to do is pressure him. … But he would be perfect for this team.”

    Even LB is trying to make a run at him. Garnett calling him family and LB calling him his 2nd son. This is getting a little ridiculous.

  131. 131 Garrett

    I’d rather see Dyess go to LA or even *gasp* Boston (if he doesn’t come home to us) than the Bobcats. I mean, c’mon. Why would he go there to lose? If he can’t be a Piston, I at least want him to have a chance at a ring.

  132. 132 Garrett

    Oh, and LeBron is amazing.

  133. 133 joejoejoe

    Rasheed - 21 pts, 15 boards, 0 turnovers, true shooting% - 80%

    Not bad.

  134. 134 Mannie32

    dyess’ agent told boston dont waste ur time lol… danny ainge has given up

    cavs is still a possibility, but hopefully not after tonite! i see him coming back now.. when we were 0-2 post-AI i was questioning his will to return, but since then we’re 4-1… so we’ll see

  135. 135 Restructer_It

    Did anyone see Hollinger’s playoff odds?? He has the Lakers as a 50% chance of winning the championship. I would bet my bank account on the field winning over his Lakers.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/playoffodds

  136. 136 Jim

    Hoopsworld is reporting McDyess is on the verge of signing with the Bobcats…this can’t be true.

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=10664

  137. 137 andyfrombrooklyn

    billups and nuggets destroying the spurs. he really seems to be the “answer” for them.

  138. 138 Mike

    Hoopsworld hates the Pistons worse than ESPN.

    However, it could be that they are right about Dyess signing with Larry Brown and Co.

    We shall see

  139. 139 Laughton

    Yay! I missed the damn game :(

  140. 140 Greg

    I can’t imagine Dyess signing with Charlotte. For a guy comfortable with his location that doesn’t want to move around, and is essentially still playing only for the sake of winning a ring, it just wouldn’t make sense.

  141. 141 TDP

    Jim,

    That story has been all over the internet today. I don’t think it’s anything too serious. Pounds (head nod to Sheed) just had a good rapport with Dice.

    He’ll be a Piston. He HAS to!

  142. 142 Laughton

    McDyess would be out of his friggin mind to sign with the Bobcats. Come home Dice. Max misses you and wants to have your babies.

  143. 143 Boney

    perhaps signing Dyess in Charlotte means that Detroit can fleece MJ again and trade Amir for Dice

  144. 144 TDP

    John Hollinger is a douche. PER sucks.

  145. 145 Mike

    Since Billups has been with Denver they have beaten only one team with a winning record, the Celtics.

    Billups will break down before the end of the year.

    We got the better of the deal

  146. 146 Mike

    We never would have scored 55 + points in the 2nd half tonight with Billups instead of AI and we would have lost.

  147. 147 Rob G

    I think the story is blown up a bit; Charlotte’s guys said they have contacted Dice’s agent. I could contact Dice’s agent tomorrow; doesn’t mean Dice will join my rec team.

  148. 148 TDP

    I finally broke down and bought League Pass yesterday. A big THANK YOU to the Pistons! I nearly ruing my purchase late in the 2nd quarter.

  149. 149 TDP

    Left out a “was” there.

  150. 150 Mannie32

    this is scary… bobcats are waiving players now too

    http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/55554/20081119/bobcats_waive_brown_and_johnson/

    reminds me of one philly waived players and soon afteward stole elton brand from the clips… everyone thought he’d return to the clips, same way we all think (hope) dyess returns to the pistons

    let’s hope he doesn’t leave

  151. 151 Mannie32

    sorry i meant traded, philly traded players (for nothing in return) to free up cap space… they didn’t waive em… but still… bobcats waiving players is a scary thought with this other story going around

  152. 152 Laughton

    The only way I could accept Dice signing with Charlotte is if they w trade Wallace and Okafor for the rights to the Pistons second round pick in 2050.

  153. 153 Laughton

    Damn W, slipping into my sentence!

  154. 154 Boney

    I’d trade:

    Amir
    Sheed
    2nd round

    for

    Okafor
    Dyess
    1st round

  155. 155 Boney

    and then I’d trade Okafor for Samuel Dalembert

    and then I’d trade Dalembert for Chris Kaman and Thad Young

  156. 156 Boney

    and then I’d submit a commenter column telling everyone how Jason Kidd is overrated, and then reneg on my column

  157. 157 Boney

    /in rare form

  158. 158 Laughton

    Dalembert sounds like a cheese.

  159. 159 Restructer_It

    You gotta believe Dyess is going to Charlotte by the way this is catching on so quickly. How many times does this have to be established:

    “I don’t want to be no ring-chaser, I don’t want to be moving team to team being a ring-chaser. I can’t do that. If I have to do that, I would definitely give it up.”

    Dyess is going to go wherever is best for him (whatever city his new wife likes the most).

  160. 160 Laughton

    But Charlotte? Is that giving up, looking at a ceiling of 30 wins?
    I dont understand. I am not computing.

  161. 161 Restructer_It

    Great weather.. Near the ocean.. Quality shopping?

  162. 162 Rob G

    @Laughton, here in the States, W can’t go away fast enough

  163. 163 Laughton

    Are the Stones playing Boston tomorrow?????????

  164. 164 Laughton

    Might as well watch the end of the Bucks game. Get some Bogut as I wait for news on Dice.

  165. 165 Jim

    Founnd another related link from ESPN about Dyess. It says Dyess has talked to the Bobcats and they are holding a spot open for him if he wants to sign there, but that nothing is imminent.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=3713885

  166. 166 Jim

    *Found

  167. 167 Mike

    The Cavs still do not have a road win against a team with a winning record. LOL

  168. 168 Laughton

    Watching Bulls - Blazers. Rose is talented, but he has no idea how to run a team.

  169. 169 Laughton

    Yet.

  170. 170 Laughton

    Blazers commentary sucks almost as much as the Bulls.

  171. 171 piñon lopez

    good game - couldn’t watch it but followed comments and gamecast - certainly surprised to see this get solidly pulled out.

    how are sheed’s numbers looking since the trade - he seems like he has improved significantly with iverson’s arrival. does iverson’s presence mean that sheed doesn’t have to be the only overly emotional person?

  172. 172 Laughton

    Rodriguez is good. Yep.

  173. 173 Gogol

    As much as it would suck to lose Dyess, I’d MUCH rather have his toughness and desire on a non-factor like Charlotte than on a contender.

  174. 174 Laughton

    I missed the game as well. Perhaps that is why I am still watching Blazers and talking to myself :)

  175. 175 Laughton

    Blazers are good. They are going to be scary for the next few years if they keep this team together.

  176. 176 Laughton

    Whoa! Lindsay Hunter sighting. Weird.

  177. 177 Carey

    Scott from ESPN just said that the Pistons were mad because AI has been taking to many shots. Is this true???????

  178. 178 JackDutch

    this team has really changed if anyone’s pissed about shot count. i’d need some corroboration from a legit source to back it up before i believe that lazy-eyed hack.

    curry’s rotation is uncomfortably different but insanely effective. as time was dwindling in the 4th, i had to rub my eyes to make sure i wasn’t seeing things with spellcheck and stuck still on the floor and rip and tay on the bench. and he’s got his fingers on the right buttons obviously. he’s completely unafraid to stick with the hot hand at any ego’s expense. i admire that. he’s been true to his pledge thus far.

    if we can get a W tomorrow in beantown….

  179. 179 Quick Darshan

    Wow, did the Blazers ever put a whoopin’ on the Bulls. The little I watched, the Bulls were actually playing good D but the Blazers just kept moving the ball til they got an open lane to the basket.

  180. 180 Quick Darshan

    Didn’t see the game. Couple questions:

    Cavs were on a back to back, did they just run out of gas?

    Was Rip on the court at the end of the game? If not, I wonder how he’ll handle it.

  181. 181 Quick Darshan

    Carey, AI only took 16 shots. That doesn’t seem too selfish to me.

    Afflalo had a +12 +/-, in 14min.

  182. 182 Rob G

    QD - Rip was not, and Tay sat most of the 4th. I’m guessing they’ll be fine - the younger players were playing extremely well, and I would hope the vets recognized that. Especially since this isn’t June…

  183. 183 Quick Darshan

    Another observation:

    5-6 is good enough for 8th best in the West and only 10th best in the East. I think this might be the year where all the playoff teams have a winning record.

  184. 184 JackDutch

    qd-i don’t think it was an energy thing for the cavs but i could be wrong. we had some fantastic defensive plays in the 2nd half including two BRILLIANT steals by a.i. i’d like to think it was mostly due to curry and fires lit than any fatigue setting in for the cavs.

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